Leslie, Thank you for all this info. It filled in some nooks and crannies. FYI: I have Elmer's death at Aug 1869. He's on the 1870 mortality schedule. Linda Schwenn On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Leslie Thomas <aeriehollow@ellijay.com>wrote: > Thanks Linda N...for this research, here's some additional > information on Isaac VanNorman's family during the CW: > > Charles R. VanNorman enlisted in the Wisconsin Volunteers Co. F, 4th > Calvary was wounded 7-15-1862 at Yaazoo River mustered out 7-8-1865 > CW application #1120408 - Charles married a woman named Nancy Janet > LNU and although they had a daughter named Harriet b. Jan 18, 1871 in > Pilot Mound, Minnesota she apparently died young. The migrated to > North Dakota where he was listed on the 1890 Veteran's Schedule and > in 1900 they had adopted a daughter named Virginia. Virginia is 12 > on the 1900 census. In 1918 widow applied for Charles pension - she > had to file in Washington State at the time. Charles died 16 April > 1918 in Portland, Oregon. > > George W. VanNorman's pension application number was #222778 and was > filed in Minnesota by his mother Harriett VanNorman Feb 16, 1885. He > enlisted in in Fond du Lac as living in Lomira Wisconsin into the > Wisconsin Volunteers, Co. E, 3rd Infantry. He was killed in action > at Antietam, MD 9-17-1862. > > Also son Theodore S. Van Orman b. about 1843 - enlisted in the > Wisconsin Volunteers, Co. K, 7th Infantry shortly after 1860 and was > captured at Gettysburg and listed as died 8-19-1863 at the hospital > in Richmond VA. of disease per the records - however he's on the 1865 > Minnesota Territorial Census in Winona Co., Saratoga, MN living at > home - we think he died there shortly afterwards of disease. Seems > the records weren't always very accurate. > > James Melville was too young to serve as was brother Daniel. James > M. married Susannah Rice daughter of Harrison and Sarah Cochraine > Rice in 1870. Daniel married Elmira Ferris and mother Harriet is > listed in their home in 1885 Territorial Minnesota State in the city > of Raymond. > > Elmer was a child at the time of the CW. He was born in 1858 and > died of typhoid fever in August of 1870. > > Daughters: > Mary Harriett was married to Thomas J. Torrey and we believe he died > in the CW. Her second husband was Duane Manilus Philes. Mary also > went by the name of Hannah (which is another name for Mary). She > filed in 1900 for Duane's CW pension records claiming she was an > abandoned wife. He deserted his family in 1899 and hadn't been seen > since. Duane served in Co. C, 9th Reg't of the Minnesota Volunteer > Infantry. She claimed that first husband Torrey had disappeared > during the CW and that she had had him declared as dead. They > wouldn't let her claim pension money on Torrey since his body was > never found... she filed for half of Duane's pension. > > Adelia Sylvia married Charles L. Orcutt - she apparently died prior > to her father Isaac dying as she isn't listed in the will. Some > researchers have Charles as being in Co. F, 9th Reg't of the > Minnesota Volunteer Infantry. He wa discharged July 26, 1865 and > filed for his pension in 1893. Their two boys were reared by > Harriett and are found on the 1880 census living with their > grandmother then. > > Ella Elizabeth married my great grandfather Morris Lusk Barker in > 1888. He served in the 103rd Ohio - his pension file was almost 2 > inches thick as he had to substantiate he was an American - since he > had lied about everything from where he was born to who his parents > were. He was only 14 when he enlisted. He was fighting in Georgia > (where I live now) at Resaca while my husband's great grandfather was > fighting in the Wheat Fields of Gettysburg. Nope we seldom fight > over the CW - we have learned that it was a horrific time and we > accept that it was horrible for both sides. > > > Leslie Barker Thomas > Fear less; hope more. Eat less; chew more. Talk less; say more. Hate > less; love more, and all good thing will be yours. > - Swedish Proverb - > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Linda Noggle > <lindanoggle@verizon.net>wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I went to the National Archives and looked at a few of the Van Norman > > pensions for the civil war. Thought these might be of interest to > > those > > that are related > > > > > > > > > > George W. Van Norman - Co E. 3rd Reg. - WIsconsin Infantry - > > enlisted from > > Fond du Lac, Wisconsin > > > > Born 1840 - New York - died 9/17/1862 at Antietam > > his mother Harriet Van Norman filed for pension in 1885 > > It looks like she did not furnish all the information they needed, > > > > It did say she was the wife of Isaac Van Norman who had died > > 12/22/1879, > > aged 84 years > > It did not give her maiden name > > It listed the surving brothers and sisters of George > > > > Charles R. born 1837 > > Mary H. born 1838 > > Theo S. born 1843 > > James M. born 1845 > > Daniel E. born 1847 > > Adelia S. born 1849 > > Ella E. born 1853 > > Elmer J. born 1856 > > > > > > > > A E. Koefod and Olle Gilbertson signed as witnesses to her > > declaration for > > pension. > > > > > > > > Linda Noggle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks. Related to George O. too. Looking forward to the scans of the letters. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Linda Schwenn <schwel@comcast.net> wrote: > Leslie, Thank you for all this info. It filled in some nooks and crannies. > FYI: I have Elmer's death at Aug 1869. He's on the 1870 mortality schedule. > Linda Schwenn > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Leslie Thomas <aeriehollow@ellijay.com>wrote: > >> Thanks Linda N...for this research, here's some additional >> information on Isaac VanNorman's family during the CW: >> >> Charles R. VanNorman enlisted in the Wisconsin Volunteers Co. F, 4th >> Calvary was wounded 7-15-1862 at Yaazoo River mustered out 7-8-1865 >> CW application #1120408 - Charles married a woman named Nancy Janet >> LNU and although they had a daughter named Harriet b. Jan 18, 1871 in >> Pilot Mound, Minnesota she apparently died young.  The migrated to >> North Dakota where he was listed on the 1890 Veteran's Schedule and >> in 1900 they had adopted a daughter named Virginia.  Virginia is 12 >> on the 1900 census.  In 1918 widow applied for Charles pension - she >> had to file in Washington State at the time.  Charles died 16 April >> 1918 in Portland, Oregon. >> >> George W. VanNorman's pension application number was #222778 and was >> filed in Minnesota by his mother Harriett VanNorman Feb 16, 1885.  He >> enlisted in in Fond du Lac as living in Lomira Wisconsin into the >> Wisconsin Volunteers, Co. E, 3rd Infantry.  He was killed in action >> at Antietam, MD 9-17-1862. >> >> Also son Theodore S. Van Orman b. about 1843 - enlisted in the >> Wisconsin Volunteers, Co. K, 7th Infantry shortly after 1860 and was >> captured at Gettysburg and listed as died 8-19-1863 at the hospital >> in Richmond VA. of disease per the records - however he's on the 1865 >> Minnesota Territorial Census in Winona Co., Saratoga, MN living at >> home - we think he died there shortly afterwards of disease.  Seems >> the records weren't always very accurate. >> >> James Melville was too young to serve as was brother Daniel.  James >> M. married Susannah Rice daughter of Harrison and Sarah Cochraine >> Rice in 1870.  Daniel married Elmira Ferris and mother Harriet is >> listed in their home in 1885 Territorial Minnesota State in the city >> of Raymond. >> >> Elmer was a child at the time of the CW.  He was born in 1858 and >> died of typhoid fever in August of 1870. >> >> Daughters: >> Mary Harriett was married to Thomas J. Torrey and we believe he died >> in the CW.  Her second husband was Duane Manilus Philes.  Mary also >> went by the name of Hannah (which is another name for Mary).  She >> filed in 1900 for Duane's CW pension records claiming she was an >> abandoned wife.  He deserted his family in 1899 and hadn't been seen >> since.  Duane served in Co. C, 9th Reg't of the Minnesota Volunteer >> Infantry.  She claimed that first husband Torrey had disappeared >> during the CW and that she had had him declared as dead.  They >> wouldn't let her claim pension money on Torrey since his body was >> never found... she filed for half of Duane's pension. >> >> Adelia Sylvia married Charles L. Orcutt - she apparently died prior >> to her father Isaac dying as she isn't listed in the will.  Some >> researchers have Charles as being in Co. F, 9th Reg't of the >> Minnesota Volunteer Infantry.  He wa discharged July 26, 1865 and >> filed for his pension in 1893.  Their two boys were reared by >> Harriett and are found on the 1880 census living with their >> grandmother then. >> >> Ella Elizabeth married my great grandfather Morris Lusk Barker in >> 1888.  He served in the 103rd Ohio  - his pension file was almost 2 >> inches thick as he had to substantiate he was an American - since he >> had lied about everything from where he was born to who his parents >> were.  He was only 14 when he enlisted.  He was fighting in Georgia >> (where I live now) at Resaca while my husband's great grandfather was >> fighting in the Wheat Fields of Gettysburg.  Nope we seldom fight >> over the CW - we have learned that it was a horrific time and we >> accept that it was horrible for both sides. >> >> >> Leslie Barker Thomas >> Fear less; hope more. Eat less; chew more. Talk less; say more. Hate >> less; love more, and all good thing will be yours. >> - Swedish Proverb - >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Linda Noggle >> <lindanoggle@verizon.net>wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I went to the National Archives and looked at a few of the Van Norman >> > pensions for the civil war.  Thought these might be of interest to >> > those >> > that are related >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > George W. Van Norman - Co E. 3rd Reg. - WIsconsin Infantry  - >> > enlisted from >> > Fond du Lac, Wisconsin >> > >> >  Born 1840 - New York -  died 9/17/1862 at Antietam >> > his mother Harriet Van Norman filed for pension in 1885 >> > It looks like she did not furnish all the information they needed, >> > >> > It did say she was the wife of Isaac Van Norman who had died >> > 12/22/1879, >> > aged 84 years >> > It did not give her maiden name >> > It listed the surving brothers and sisters of George >> > >> > Charles R. born 1837 >> > Mary H. born 1838 >> > Theo S. born 1843 >> > James M. born 1845 >> > Daniel E. born 1847 >> > Adelia S. born 1849 >> > Ella E. born 1853 >> > Elmer J. born 1856 >> > >> > >> > >> > A E. Koefod and Olle Gilbertson signed as witnesses to her >> > declaration for >> > pension. >> > >> > >> > >> > Linda Noggle >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >