Our only connection to the Van Norman lines, is through a marriage to one of my husband's cousins, but I have stayed interested because of all your talk on the lines in early New York. My husband has several lines that were all there, and finally you mentioned ones I recognize! Jean de la Montagne .    Rachel de Forest .    Maria de la Montagne (born on the voyage)  I know without even looking at the research that he is connected to these people! I love doing Family History and I do my husband's purely because my brother, who works at the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake, and my sister work on our lines.It is so fun! Keep up the good work all you crazy genealogists! Vicki