Hi Linda Are James O. Vanorman parents Abraham and Sally Pratt Vanorman? And was the other son that was in the war William ? Thanks Linda On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Linda Schwenn wrote: > Thanks Linda, for posting this. Just a comment about James O and Cynthia. He > had 6 sons. Three died as infants (Alvin, Moses, and Jay) and two died in > the war. Only James Birney lived his full span of years. How tragic. FYI: > in the 1870 census Mary Johnson also has a daughter Mary E. age 8. > > Linda Schwenn > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Linda Noggle <lindanoggle@verizon.net>wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I went to the National Archives and looked at a few of the Van Norman >> pensions for the civil war. Thought these might be of interest to those >> that are related >> >> >> Nathaniel D. VanOrman - Pvt Co. H, 2nd Regiment US Infantry - died >> 5/29/1863 at Hospital in Washington, D.C. from gunshot wounds received at >> Spotsylvania Courthouse, VA. >> His father James O. Vanorman made application for pension in 1876. >> >> James O. Vanorman was born in 1813 - he is the one listed on our census >> list in 1840 in Calais, Washington, Vermont.(from census list of Stephen >> Wood - thank you Stephen I use this list alot.) >> >> The pension papers indicated James O. Vanorman was married to Cynthia Dodge >> on 1/1/1837 in Marshfield, Vermont at her father's home. >> Cynthia died 7/17/1857. They had 4 children - Nathaniel, James, William and >> Ann. James O. then married Sophronia Parker - does not give date but >> probably about 1859 since she is listed on the 1860 census with him in St. >> Lawrence, Russell, New York. It did say that she and James did not have any >> children together. In 1864 they moved to Malone, Franklin Co., New York. >> Sophronia had an inheritance from her father Isaac Parker. When they left >> Russell - the land that James O. Vanorman had he left to his son James B. >> Vanorman. >> Sophronia died about 1870 and James O. married Mary Johnson 9/26/1871 in >> Malone, Franklin Co., NY - I looked at 1880 census and found them listed - >> she had three children by her previous marriage - George, Lincoln and >> William and 4 children from her marriage to James O. - Cynthia, Belledora, >> Alma, and Harry. (It did not give maiden name of Mary Johnson) >> James died 12/6/1892 >> >> The pension papers included some handwritten letters from Nathaniel to his >> father James during the war. I made copies of these and some of the other >> documents from the file, which I plan to scan to the website when I get >> some time. >> >> >> >> >> >> Robert Van Orman - Co H., 193rd Regiment NY Infantry >> >> Robert was born in 1823 in New York and died 4/13/1896. >> He married Henrietta Davenport 7/1/1842 >> Robert and Henrietta are listed on the census records from 1850 - 1880 >> living in Ithaca, Tompkins Co., New York >> They had two children - George and Lewis. Henrietta died 3/4/1889. >> >> It was George F. Vanorman (born 11/4/1850) that applied for pension >> indicating he was blind and had always depended on his father. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> George B. Vanorman - Co D., 143th Regiment, NY Infantry >> >> Company enlisted from Ithaca, Tompkins Co., New York. >> George born 1841 - died 10/25/1902 >> He was married to Lizzie VIncent in 6/1875 in Palmyra, Missouri and >> divorced at the same place >> >> He had a son Henry Vanorman - born 7/28/1876. >> >> He filed for pension from state of Illinois - and an address found in >> papers was in Rushville, Schuyler Co., Illinois >> >> >> >> >> Jacob Harry Van Norman - Co H 111st Regiment, Ohio Infantry >> >> Jacob married Martha Collins on 11/24/1870 . They met at the boarding >> house Martha worked at and John lived at in Toledo, Ohio. >> Jacob went by the name of Harry. >> >> Living children as of 1897 >> >> Charles born 12/17/1871 >> Fred - 12/22/1872 >> Albert - 8/7/1875 >> Sophia - 2/28/1877 >> William - 5/19/1879 >> Hattie - 7/7/1887 >> >> Jacob died 6/5/1902 in Ohio >> >> >> >> >> George W. Van Norman - Co E. 3rd Reg. - WIsconsin Infantry - enlisted from >> Fond du Lac, Wisconsin >> >> Born 1840 - New York - died 9/17/1862 at Antietam >> his mother Harriet Van Norman filed for pension in 1885 >> It looks like she did not furnish all the information they needed, >> >> It did say she was the wife of Isaac Van Norman who had died 12/22/1879, >> aged 84 years >> It did not give her maiden name >> It listed the surving brothers and sisters of George >> >> Charles R. born 1837 >> Mary H. born 1838 >> Theo S. born 1843 >> James M. born 1845 >> Daniel E. born 1847 >> Adelia S. born 1849 >> Ella E. born 1853 >> Elmer J. born 1856 >> >> >> >> A E. Koefod and Olle Gilbertson signed as witnesses to her declaration for >> pension. >> >> >> >> Linda Noggle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda, Glad you asked! It made me go back and look again at my records/database. Yes, I do have Abraham and Sally Pratt as parents. My database showed William died in 1861, but when I reread my notes, I saw that that was his muster date. Today I think I found him in the 1880 census in Lake View, Cook, Illinois, so 3 sons went to war and 2 survived. Here's a strange note: The Malone Civil War Service record online for William H. has this entry: Van Ornum, William H. 14th US Inf., enlisted 4/1861, Farmer, mustered in April 1861, commissioned as a 2nd Lt. 20th US Colored Infantry. Promoted to 1st Lt. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/franklin/malone/townrecords/st-we.htm Regarding Robert's son, you wrote "It was George F. Vanorman (born 11/4/1850) that applied for pension indicating he was blind and had always depended on his father." I find this very curious since in all the censuses I have for him his occupation was photographer. I wonder if blindness was an occupational hazard. Linda Schwenn