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    1. Re: [VANNORMAN] another source of New Amsterdam records
    2. I believe these are the same records as found elsewhere (BHIC, Olivetree, etc.). I alsi believe all of these are from the same transcription of the same book, Records of the Reformed Dutch Church in New Amsterdam and New York (aka Collections of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society Vol II). I switched to using "Ancestral Things" site (used to use BHIC), because the editer claims to actually have corrected some original transcription errors. Perhaps some day Google will scan the original book. Also, since Ancestral Things includes Albany, Schenectady, and elsewhere, makes it a bit easier to source stuff. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rbillard/vital_statistics.htm Jan Dirckszen had eight children, all of whose Baptisms are found in the N.A. records: 1664 Dec 31; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Dirckje; Tryntie Grevenraedt 1669 Aug 18; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Magdalena; Jilles Joosten, Maria Wouters 1671 Jun 04; Jan Dircxzen Van Aernhem, Sara Theunis; Jan; Jan Laurenszen Duyts, Mayken Laurens 1673 Apr 09; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Abraham; Jean le Maistre, Susanna Le Maistre 1675 Jul 14; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Thomas; Marie; Willem Van Leyden 1677 Sep 26; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Catharina; David Hendrickszen, Tryntie Hercks 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Isaac (twin); Daniel Terneur, Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Jacob (twin); Daniel Terneur, Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters Marriage records: 1696 14 Oct; Jan Jansz Van Aarnem, ym liv Albany; Hester Fonda, yd liv Albany [Albany records] 1695 08 Jan; Abraham Janszen Van Aernem, jm, van Mitspatskill; Sara Eckeson, jd, aen de Bouwerye, beyde woonende alheir. A 1696 03 Jun; Jan Ekkinszen, jm van Stuyvesants bouwerje; Maryken Jans, jd van N. Yorck, beyde woonende alhier On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Stephen Wood <stephe.w300@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > >      I just noticed that the Netherlands Vital Statistics website > www.genlias.nl has transcriptions of the early records of the "Collegiate > Church of New York" as they call it and many of our early Van Arnhem etc. > records are listed there under various spellings.  (with and without the Van > Arn(h)*m) > >      It would be interesting to determine if they were taken from copies of > records sent "home" near the time of their creation (i.e. - yearly?) or from > copies of records sent over in the 1900's or later...... > >      I note a couple of baptisms for children that I didn't have listed - > sons of Abraham Van Arn(h)em and Maria Hijningen (etc.) > > Isaac bpt. 8 Oct. 1729 > Jan bpt. 19 May 1736 > as well as Abraham 31 October 1739 (who I did have.....) > > Are these new entries, or was I just missing them......  [The first two are > not on any of the VN websites that I can see] > > Also, the 1671 baptism for Jan lists his parents as Jan Dircxzen van Aernhem > and Sara Theunis - so it does appear that Jan Dircxzen (sic) did refer to > himself at least once as "van Arnhem"...... although perhaps he was still > using it as a place name and not a surname as later children didn't have > it..... > >       Food for thought, > > Stephen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/23/2010 07:46:42
    1. Re: [VANNORMAN] another source of New Amsterdam records
    2. Abaham and Sara Eckerson's marriage: 1695 08 Jan; Abraham Janszen Van Aernem, jm, van Mitspatskill; Sara Eckeson, jd, aen de Bouwerye, beyde woonende alheir. A What does "aen de Bouwerye" translate to? On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:46 PM, <jroguetech@gmail.com> wrote: > I believe these are the same records as found elsewhere (BHIC, > Olivetree, etc.). I alsi believe all of these are from the same > transcription of the same book, Records of the Reformed Dutch Church > in New Amsterdam and New York (aka Collections of the New York > Genealogical and Biographical Society Vol II). I switched to using > "Ancestral Things" site (used to use BHIC), because the editer claims > to actually have corrected some original transcription errors. Perhaps > some day Google will scan the original book. Also, since Ancestral > Things includes Albany, Schenectady, and elsewhere, makes it a bit > easier to source stuff. > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rbillard/vital_statistics.htm > > Jan Dirckszen had eight children, all of whose Baptisms are found in > the N.A. records: > 1664 Dec 31; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Dirckje; Tryntie Grevenraedt > 1669 Aug 18; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Magdalena; Jilles Joosten, > Maria Wouters > 1671 Jun 04; Jan Dircxzen Van Aernhem, Sara Theunis; Jan; Jan > Laurenszen Duyts, Mayken Laurens > 1673 Apr 09; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Abraham; Jean le Maistre, > Susanna Le Maistre > 1675 Jul 14; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Thomas; Marie; Willem Van Leyden > 1677 Sep 26; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Catharina; David > Hendrickszen, Tryntie Hercks > 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Isaac (twin); Daniel > Terneur, Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters > 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Jacob (twin); Daniel > Terneur, Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters > > Marriage records: > 1696 14 Oct; Jan Jansz Van Aarnem, ym liv Albany; Hester Fonda, yd liv > Albany [Albany records] > 1695 08 Jan; Abraham Janszen Van Aernem, jm, van Mitspatskill; Sara > Eckeson, jd, aen de Bouwerye, beyde woonende alheir. A > 1696 03 Jun; Jan Ekkinszen, jm van Stuyvesants bouwerje; Maryken Jans, > jd van N. Yorck, beyde woonende alhier > > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Stephen Wood <stephe.w300@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi! >> >>      I just noticed that the Netherlands Vital Statistics website >> www.genlias.nl has transcriptions of the early records of the "Collegiate >> Church of New York" as they call it and many of our early Van Arnhem etc. >> records are listed there under various spellings.  (with and without the Van >> Arn(h)*m) >> >>      It would be interesting to determine if they were taken from copies of >> records sent "home" near the time of their creation (i.e. - yearly?) or from >> copies of records sent over in the 1900's or later...... >> >>      I note a couple of baptisms for children that I didn't have listed - >> sons of Abraham Van Arn(h)em and Maria Hijningen (etc.) >> >> Isaac bpt. 8 Oct. 1729 >> Jan bpt. 19 May 1736 >> as well as Abraham 31 October 1739 (who I did have.....) >> >> Are these new entries, or was I just missing them......  [The first two are >> not on any of the VN websites that I can see] >> >> Also, the 1671 baptism for Jan lists his parents as Jan Dircxzen van Aernhem >> and Sara Theunis - so it does appear that Jan Dircxzen (sic) did refer to >> himself at least once as "van Arnhem"...... although perhaps he was still >> using it as a place name and not a surname as later children didn't have >> it..... >> >>       Food for thought, >> >> Stephen >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

    10/23/2010 08:49:44