Hi Everyone! Just a reminder that the promotion for the Y-DNA is just available for a few more days, until the 25th of June 2010. We have been using the Y-DNA37 kit for our project which is now $119 - reg. $149. You can see our Van Norman Project's current results at www.FamilyTreeDNA.com - type Van Norman into the search engine and follow the links..... or go directly to the results with www.familytreedna.com/public/vannorman . As mentioned before, any participant must be a male bearing the Van Norman surname (any variation) as the Y-DNA is passed solely from father to son - making it ideal for Surname based projects such as ours. Any Female researcher must get a male Van Norman (etc.) relative to "sub" in for them - i.e. father, brother, uncle, cousin, etc.... If you do not know which line of the Van Norman (etc.) family you connect back to (i.e. Jans Dirks & Sarah Theunis; Joseph Van Norman & Elizabeth Wybern; Josiah Van Norman & Mary __?__; etc.] this is one way to get a jump on matters if you can't locate a paper trail. For those who have determined where they fit into a family tree, it is an opportunity to confirm your research, and to assist us to build up our database of family members for each line. We have been quite successful with the early stages of our project, determining that there was simply not one sole Van Norman ancestor for everyone, but likely several different progenitors bearing the same or a similar Surname. Maybe you will be able to use the Van Norman Y-DNA project to put a crack in your "brick wall"! Thank you, Stephen Wood Feel free to contact me with any questions you may have: stephe.w300@gmail.com [Disclaimer: I have no connection to the FamilyTreeDNA company except as being one of the Van Norman Co-ordinators.]