Good website! I'd found that once a long time ago, but hadn't bookmarked it and have been trying to find it ever since. Thanks, Arlene. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Arlene Reeves <arkretired@hotmail.com>wrote: > > Linda, I found the following on http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.htmlRan out of time to look further. Arlene > > Schenectady NY Cabinet 1830-1832 Grayscale - 0539.pdf > > > > W E E K L Y R E P O R T — B O A R D OF H E A L T H . > City of Schenectady, > > > > Died of Spasmodic Cholera.—Aaron Farnsworth, > in Front-street; Jack Clawson, a coloured > man, in Ann-street; John Van Arnum, > a boy, in Dock-street; Nich's Clawson, a coloured > man, in Ann-street; Mrs. Van Patten, in > Water-street; Mrs. Clute, (from Guilde.rland, > who was unwell when she came to the citv, > * day or two before her decease,) died in Ferry- > street. > > > New York NY Spectator 1827 - 1829 Grayscale - 0145.pdf > > > TUESDAY, Evening FEBRUARY 26., > > At Schenectady, William Van Arnum, at > an advanced age.— > 28th year of her age. > > Schenectady NY Cabinet 1827-1829 Grayscale - 0260.pdf > In this city, on Saturday last, Mr. Wm. VAN > ARNUM, at an advanced age. > > > Schenectady NY Cabinet 1833-1835 Grayscale - 0625.pdf > > > MARRIED—On S u n d a y e v e n i n g 'last. by Rev P . > Alexis Proal, Mr. S T E P H E N S. MIOR.Y, t o M i s s > H A R R I E T JANE R E E D . Also, Mr. ISAAC > VAN ARNUM, to Miss CATHARlN'E ANN > BECKER; all of this c i t y . > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:42:28 -0400 > > From: schwel@comcast.net > > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [VANNORMAN] Van Arnum obituaries available at Schenectady Public > Library > > > > Is there a Schenectady-based Vannorman who could look these up and post > > them??? > > > > Helen Van Arnum > > > > - CB Aug 29, 1832:3 *[Mrs.]* > > > > John Van Arnum > > > > - CB Aug 15, 1832:3 > > > > William Van Arnum - Feb 16, 1828 > > > > - CB Feb 20, 1828:3 > > > > CB: Cabinet (variant titles Schenectady Cabinet and Freedom's Sentinel) > Jul > > 3, 1822 — Jun 1, 1858 (most issues) (4,007 entries) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, I found the following on http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html Ran out of time to look further. Arlene Schenectady NY Cabinet 1830-1832 Grayscale - 0539.pdf W E E K L Y R E P O R T — B O A R D OF H E A L T H . City of Schenectady, Died of Spasmodic Cholera.—Aaron Farnsworth, in Front-street; Jack Clawson, a coloured man, in Ann-street; John Van Arnum, a boy, in Dock-street; Nich's Clawson, a coloured man, in Ann-street; Mrs. Van Patten, in Water-street; Mrs. Clute, (from Guilde.rland, who was unwell when she came to the citv, * day or two before her decease,) died in Ferry- street. New York NY Spectator 1827 - 1829 Grayscale - 0145.pdf TUESDAY, Evening FEBRUARY 26., At Schenectady, William Van Arnum, at an advanced age.— 28th year of her age. Schenectady NY Cabinet 1827-1829 Grayscale - 0260.pdf In this city, on Saturday last, Mr. Wm. VAN ARNUM, at an advanced age. Schenectady NY Cabinet 1833-1835 Grayscale - 0625.pdf MARRIED—On S u n d a y e v e n i n g 'last. by Rev P . Alexis Proal, Mr. S T E P H E N S. MIOR.Y, t o M i s s H A R R I E T JANE R E E D . Also, Mr. ISAAC VAN ARNUM, to Miss CATHARlN'E ANN BECKER; all of this c i t y . > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:42:28 -0400 > From: schwel@comcast.net > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VANNORMAN] Van Arnum obituaries available at Schenectady Public Library > > Is there a Schenectady-based Vannorman who could look these up and post > them??? > > Helen Van Arnum > > - CB Aug 29, 1832:3 *[Mrs.]* > > John Van Arnum > > - CB Aug 15, 1832:3 > > William Van Arnum - Feb 16, 1828 > > - CB Feb 20, 1828:3 > > CB: Cabinet (variant titles Schenectady Cabinet and Freedom's Sentinel) Jul > 3, 1822 — Jun 1, 1858 (most issues) (4,007 entries) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/

Is there a Schenectady-based Vannorman who could look these up and post them??? Helen Van Arnum - CB Aug 29, 1832:3 *[Mrs.]* John Van Arnum - CB Aug 15, 1832:3 William Van Arnum - Feb 16, 1828 - CB Feb 20, 1828:3 CB: Cabinet (variant titles Schenectady Cabinet and Freedom's Sentinel) Jul 3, 1822 — Jun 1, 1858 (most issues) (4,007 entries)

The Hunterdon *Democrat* was formed September 5, 1838 at Flemington, New Jersey. Oct. 12, 1870, Vol. XXXIII, No. 8 (1724) Deaths-- "At the residence of James Housel, in Flemington, August 24th, 1870, Anna C. Poulson, wife of Sam'l Van Norman, of Wilkesbarre, Pa., aged 32 years, 4 months and 17 days." August 8, 1876, Vol. XXXVIII, No. 46, Whole No. 1975: Deaths June 9th, 1876, at the residence of Sarah Poulson, in Flemington, Sarah Jane Van Norman, aged 8 years, 5 months and 2 days. Oct 27, 1841, Vol IV, No. 9 (165) Marriage-- On the 7th inst., by the Rev. J. N. Crane, Mr. Anthony Hough of Wantage, Sussex co., to Miss Elizabeth Wan Norman of Raritan, Hunterdon co., NJ. June 4, 1878, Vol. XL - No. 41, Whole No. 2064 Marriages --May 29, by Rev. Geo. Young, David Van Orman, of Kingwood to Martha E. Short, of Kent county, Del. July 19, 1865, Vol. XXVII, No. 48 (1403) Married --July 4th, near Croton, by Rev. J. B. Howard, Samuel Vannorman, to Anna C. Poulson.

We haven't seen ours yet, but if you go over all the past censuses, they changed what they asked every time. Don't forget to copy yours for future researchers. They won't have to wait the usual required years...Just a suggestion. Vicki --- On Mon, 3/15/10, Charlie Van Norman <charlie@vannorman.com> wrote: From: Charlie Van Norman <charlie@vannorman.com> Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Census To: vannorman@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 10:18 PM I did mine a few minutes ago and will mail it tomorrow. On 3/15/2010 9:02 PM, Susan Claggett wrote: > I just filled out our 2010 census and was surprised that they did not even > ask for place of birth.  They also only gave room for middle initial not the > name.  I never noticed these things before researching my family tree. > > > > Regards, > > > > Susan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >    ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just filled out our 2010 census and was surprised that they did not even ask for place of birth. They also only gave room for middle initial not the name. I never noticed these things before researching my family tree. Regards, Susan

I did mine a few minutes ago and will mail it tomorrow. On 3/15/2010 9:02 PM, Susan Claggett wrote: > I just filled out our 2010 census and was surprised that they did not even > ask for place of birth. They also only gave room for middle initial not the > name. I never noticed these things before researching my family tree. > > > > Regards, > > > > Susan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Linda, Thank you for this valuable resource! Looking at the County Chronologies, I think I can see how Safronia was born in Dutchess County, NY AND Connecticut as was stated in the census. Arlene > Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:29:11 -0500 > From: schwel@comcast.net > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VANNORMAN] Historical County Boundary Maps > > This website at the Newberry Library http://www.newberry.org/ahcbp/ was > posted to the Vermont list but is of value in researching other states as > well. Choose a year and see the county names and their boundaries. If your > ancestor is found living in different counties with each succeeding census, > it's possible he/she didn't move at all, just the name of the county > changed. It's also helpful to see what the neighboring counties are. Perhaps > your ancestor only had to travel a mile or two to visit relatives, depending > on the nearness of the county line to their respective towns or property. > > Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/

This website at the Newberry Library http://www.newberry.org/ahcbp/ was posted to the Vermont list but is of value in researching other states as well. Choose a year and see the county names and their boundaries. If your ancestor is found living in different counties with each succeeding census, it's possible he/she didn't move at all, just the name of the county changed. It's also helpful to see what the neighboring counties are. Perhaps your ancestor only had to travel a mile or two to visit relatives, depending on the nearness of the county line to their respective towns or property. Linda

I don't have the info with me but at home I have a copy of Zebulon Mack's probate files. He died March 21, 1836. I believe it names John T and (1st son) Marvin in the initial paperwork. Also, in 1841 there was a deed (transcribed below) transferring Zebulon's property to Jonathan Mack. (2nd son) James Riley Van Orman and (3rd son) Densey Young Van Orman both signed it (along with a number of others): I have not totally sorted out the Mack family, a number are buried in the Hunn/Woolhouse Cemetery where Joseph (1741) and Elizabeth are buried. Arlene http://files.usgwarchives.org/ny/ontario/deeds/munson-mack.txt- DEED: - Gorham Munson, et al to Johnathan Mack; Ontario co., NY Lot # 10, third Range Phelps and Gorham Purchase Written: September 30 1841 Recorded: September 30 1841 Land Sale Ontario County 30 September 1841 - Munson, Davis, Van Orman, Hooker, Johnson to Johnathan Mack This Indenture made the thirtieth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and forty one between Gorham Munson, Renselaer Munson, Lucy Ann Munson, Enoch Davis, and Sally Davis by their Attorney Lacy Munson, James Riley Van Orman, Densey Young Van Orman, Phylaster Hooker, Nelly Marilda his wife of the town of Canandaigua and Joseph Johnson and Louisa Julia his wife of the town of East Bloomfield and all of the County of Ontario and State of New York of the first part and Johnathan Mack of the town of Canandaigua in the County of Ontario and State of New York of the second part Witnesseth that the said parties of the first part in consideration of the sum of seventy seven dollars and sixty six cents to them in hand paid by the said party of the second part the receipt whereof is hereby confessed and acknowledged have bargained sold remised and quit claimed and by these presents do grant bargain sell remise and quit claim unto the said party of the second part and to his heirs and assigns forever All that certain tract or parcel of land situated in township number ten in the third range of township in Phelps and Gorham purchase in the County of Ontario and is part of number ninety one west of west street and south of Cross Street and is four acres and thirty seven rods of said lot to be bounded as follows viz. north by land owned by the heirs of Nathan Briggs deceased east on the highway south by land owned by Elanathan Gooding junior and west by land owned by the heirs of Rufus Hickox deceased being land owned by Zebulon Mack at the time of his death together with all and singular the hereditaments and appurtenances thereunto belonging or in any wise appertaining and the reversion and reversions remainder and remainders rents issues and profits thereof and all the estate right tithe interest claim and demand whatsoever of the said parties of the first part either in law or equity of in and to the above bargained premises with the aid hereditaments and appurtenances to have and to hold the said granted and bargained premises to the said party of the second part his heirs and assigns to the sole and only properer (sic.) benefit and behoof of the said party of the second part his heirs and assigns forever. In witness whereof the parties of the first part have herunto set their hands and seals the day and year first above written. Sealed and delivered in presence of Lacy Munson O. Benjamin Seal and signatures of: Gorham Munson James R. Van Orman Renslaer Munson Dency Van Orman Lucy Ann Munson Phylaster Hooker Enoch Davis N. Marilda Hooker Sally Davis Joseph Johnson (his mark) By their Attorney Lacy Munson Louisa Julia Johnson (her mark) > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:30:44 -0500 > From: stephe.w300@gmail.com > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Schuyler County,New York cemetery records > > Hi! > > Marvin is said to be the son of John Trusdale Van Norman and Safrona > Hicks / Hix. He was enumerated in the 1840 census of Reading (then part of > Steuben County, NY) with a wife and young daughter - likely the two > mentioned on the tombstone.... I have nothing further on him at this time, > nor on the other two interments. > > Stephen > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Linda Noggle <lindanoggle@verizon.net>wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > Found the following the other day while browsing on the net: > > > > Burials at Gabriel Cemetery - Town of Reading, Schuyler Co. New York > > > > Vanorman M.T. > > d. 11/22/1840 aged 25-2-22 > > Sarah Ann daughter of Marion & Ema d. 7/30/1840 aged > > 1-10-22 > > Vanorman Ann Marie daughter of Marvin & Fanny d. 2/2/1841 aged 7 > > months 4 days > > > > Hope they help someone out - don't know who they belong to. > > > > Linda Noggle > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/

Ontario County Deed Index, 1789-1845 Grantee Last First Grantor Last First Year Lib Page Hickox Joseph Van Orman James 1827 46 374 1838 Gooding Erastus VanOrman Marvin 63 150 1841 Gooding Erastus Vanorman Dencey 69 430 1832 Fleming Sarah VanOrman Isaac 53 104 1832 Fleming Sarah VanOrman Isaac 53 704 1815 Fleming Thomas VanOrman Joseph 23 489 1831 Clark Dolphus VanOrman James 50 447 1822 Keeler Jr. Ebenezer Vanorman Jesse 43 302 1831 Case Hiram VanNorman Joseph 50 459 1809 Case Seba VanNorman Isaac 13 579

I have this in my notes, a post from the Mack Family forum: Home: Surnames: Mack Family Genealogy Forum Re: Zebulon, Benjamin and Gurdon Mack born Conn>>Canandiagua,NY Posted by: Linda Cox (ID *****9699) Date: August 09, 2007 at 22:58:55 In Reply to: Re: Zebulon, Benjamin and Gurdon Mack born Conn>>Canandiagua,NY by JoAnn Yellott of 1594 Looking for information on Marvin Van Orman. I have: Fanny married first Marvin T. Van Orman (also spelled Vanorman or Van Norman) born August 31, 1815 and died November 22, 1840 at age 25 years 2 months and 22 days – buried Gabriel Cemetery, Reading, Schuyler County, New York. They had 1 child: 1. Ann Marie Van Orman born June 29, 1840 died in infancy February 2, 1841 at age 7 months and 4 days – buried Gabriel Cemetery, Reading, Schuyler County, New York with her father. Frances ‘Fanny’ Matthews who was born November 23, 1816 in Schuyler County, New York and died April 22, 1882 in Dix, Schuyler County, New York at age 65 years, 4 months, and 29 days; married second Squire ‘Esquire’ Griswold who was born August 17, 1798 in Fort Ann, Washington County, New York and died February 24, 1880 in Dix, Schuyler County, New York at age 81 years, 6 months, and 7 days; he married first Temperance McDowell who was born May 13, 1804 probably near Elmira, Chemung County, New York and died September 11, 1841 in Dix, Schuyler County, New York at age 37 years, 3 months, and 28 days. The parents of Fanny were believed to be: David Matthews and Sarah. Any help with this family is appreciated. lindajcox3@hotmail.com On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:02 AM, <vannorman-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Schuyler County,New York cemetery records (Linda Noggle) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:19:43 -0500 > From: Linda Noggle <lindanoggle@verizon.net> > Subject: [VANNORMAN] Schuyler County,New York cemetery records > To: Vannorman <vannorman@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <A254FFC9-29B6-4C81-9CCE-03D17614B69B@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi All, > > Found the following the other day while browsing on the net: > > Burials at Gabriel Cemetery - Town of Reading, Schuyler Co. New York > > Vanorman M.T. > d. 11/22/1840 aged 25-2-22 > Sarah Ann daughter of Marion & Ema d. 7/30/1840 > aged 1-10-22 > > > > > Vanorman Ann Marie daughter of Marvin & Fanny d. 2/2/1841 aged 7 > months 4 days > > > > Hope they help someone out - don't know who they belong to. > > Linda Noggle > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the VANNORMAN list administrator, send an email to > VANNORMAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the VANNORMAN mailing list, send an email to > VANNORMAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of VANNORMAN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 58 > **************************************** >

Hi! Marvin is said to be the son of John Trusdale Van Norman and Safrona Hicks / Hix. He was enumerated in the 1840 census of Reading (then part of Steuben County, NY) with a wife and young daughter - likely the two mentioned on the tombstone.... I have nothing further on him at this time, nor on the other two interments. Stephen On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Linda Noggle <lindanoggle@verizon.net>wrote: > Hi All, > > Found the following the other day while browsing on the net: > > Burials at Gabriel Cemetery - Town of Reading, Schuyler Co. New York > > Vanorman M.T. > d. 11/22/1840 aged 25-2-22 > Sarah Ann daughter of Marion & Ema d. 7/30/1840 aged > 1-10-22 > Vanorman Ann Marie daughter of Marvin & Fanny d. 2/2/1841 aged 7 > months 4 days > > Hope they help someone out - don't know who they belong to. > > Linda Noggle > >

Hi All, Found the following the other day while browsing on the net: Burials at Gabriel Cemetery - Town of Reading, Schuyler Co. New York Vanorman M.T. d. 11/22/1840 aged 25-2-22 Sarah Ann daughter of Marion & Ema d. 7/30/1840 aged 1-10-22 Vanorman Ann Marie daughter of Marvin & Fanny d. 2/2/1841 aged 7 months 4 days Hope they help someone out - don't know who they belong to. Linda Noggle

Stephen, I think you are right about it being Jacob V. I think his mother is Christianna, though, and his sister married David Blessing. See 1900 census below. In 1920 Christianna, age 81, is living with them and next door to Jacob. 6-15-1900 : Altamont Village, Albany, New York Christianna Vanaernam 61 b Apr 1839 farmer NY NY NY Mary A Blessing 31 Jun 1868 NY dau David Blessing 32 Jul 1866 NY son-in-law James Jones 30 servant Maybe Christian Jacobson 1st or 2nd marriage? June 1900 : Altamont Village, Guilderland Twp., Albany, New York Jacob Vanaernam 26 b Aug 1863 commercial agt. Ellen L Vanaernam 38 b May 1862 Jacob H Vanaernam 10 b Jul 1889 school Garret Becker 76 b Sep 1825 boarder 1ch/1liv Home 4-25-1910: Guilderland, Albany, New York Jacob Vanaernam 44 NY NY NY commercial/tobacco & cigars Rella [Ella] L Vanaernam 45 NY PA PA Jacob M [H] Vanaernam 20 NY NY PA Anna M Heck 50 OH PA PA sister-in-law m 23y * *********** *Home Jan 1920: Guilderland, Albany, New York Jacob Van Arenam 54 tobacco salesman Ella Van Arenam 56 Neighbors: his mother is living next door with his sister Mary/David Blessing Linda Schwenn

Hi! Thanks for posting this Linda! Does everyone agree that this is Jacob V. Vanaernam, son of Henry J. Van Aernam (c1841 - 1872/4) & Christian [perhaps nee Hallenbeck] and grandson of Jacob H. Van Aernam (1806 - 1894) & Mary Magdalen Livingstone? (His sister Mary Anna may have married Christian Jacobson per Prospect Hill Cemetery inscription?) Stephen On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Linda Schwenn <schwel@comcast.net> wrote: > http://www.bernehistory.org/obitDetail.asp?ID=1285 > > Full Name Born Died Record Number > > Jacob Van Aernam Abt 1865 03/19/1929 1285 > > Obituary Text > > VAN AERNAM - At Altamont, N. Y., March 19, 1929, Jacob Van Aernam, from his > late residence. Masonic services will be held by Noah lodge, No. 754, F. > and > A. M.. Interment at Prospect Hill cemetery. > > (snip)

http://www.bernehistory.org/obitDetail.asp?ID=1285 Full Name Born Died Record Number Jacob Van Aernam Abt 1865 03/19/1929 1285 Obituary Text VAN AERNAM - At Altamont, N. Y., March 19, 1929, Jacob Van Aernam, from his late residence. Masonic services will be held by Noah lodge, No. 754, F. and A. M.. Interment at Prospect Hill cemetery. ****************************************************************************************************** JACOB VAN AERNAM PASSES AWAY AT HOME IN ALTAMONT On Tuesday of this week, Jacob Van Aernam, native of Altamont, sixty-four years old passed away at his home. Funeral services were conducted at his late home on Thursday afternoon at 2:30 o'clock by Rev. Roscoe M. Giles, pastor of the Altamont Reformed church, assisted by Rev. A. A. Frederick, pastor of St. John's Luther church. Mrs. Irving Lainhart sang. The service was attended by many relatives and friends from Altamont and out of town, a large delegation of members of Noah Lodge and of Helderberg Chapter, O. E. S., being present. Noah Lodge No. 754 F. & A. M., conducted a Masonic service at the grave. Burial was in the family plot in Prospect Hill cemetery at Guilderland. Undertaker Harry Fredendall had charge of the funeral arrangements. "Jake," as he was known by everyone, loved the companionship of his friends. He had a wide acquaintanceship gained from his chosen occupation as a salesman. He was happiest when at home surrounded by friends. His activities in Masonry, up to the time of his forced retirement, gave him the added enjoyment of being with people. He was twice chosen as master of Noah Lodge, No. 754, F. & A. M., of Altamont, was a member of Temple Commandery No. 2, of Cyprus Shrine, and of Helderberg Chapter, O. E. S. He was interested in the affairs of the village, serving as trustee and then as president of the village. The sewer system was completed during his term of office in 1918. He was a director of the Albany County Agricultural society, and also was proud company. He was also a trustee of the Altamont Public library, and rendered valuable service. Mr. Van Aernam was married September 29, 1886 to Ella Heck. His wife and J. H. Van Aernam of Albany, survive him. No better expression of his character can be made than the quotation of Laratin which hung over his desk: " The most I can do for my friend is simply to be his friend. I have no wealth to bestow upon him. If he knows that I am happy in loving him he will want no other reward." Obituary Source newspaper clipping from Hon. & Mrs. Franklin M. Shultes scrapbook Submitted By Submitted Date Submitter Email Marilyn Miller Figel 4/7/2005 7:47:55 PM

I have been working on children of Abraham Van Norman & Charity Cummins. I hope this is useful. Ray W. Raymond Cummins, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. Note in the censuses of 1852 & 1871 that Abraham Van Norman was described as a plasterer and a mason but not as a shoemaker. I do not know where the writers in the Massachusetts Encyclopedia derived the notion that Abraham Van Norman had been a shoe maker. Note as well that Charity and Abraham followed the religion of her father namely New Connexion Methodist rather than Wesleyan Methodist which had been followed by some other Van Norman families viz. Isaac & Catharine VN. Ray Summary Hannah Everitt Van Norman was born 25 March 1833 at Hannahsville in Nelson Township, Halton County, Upper Canada. She married a cousin named Johnson Van Norman on 12 Jan 1853. The wedding probably occurred in Dereham Township near Tilsonburg in Oxford County because that is where she and her parents and her fiance lived at the time. She and her parents had been enumerated in South Norwich Township, Oxford County, Canada West in the 1852 census of Canada. Hannah & Johnson lived in South Norwich Township near Tilsonburg and they had at least 6 children. After Johnson died in 1874 aged 48 years, Hannah and her dependent children moved into the Town of Tilsonburg. Hannah was apparently named after her maternal aunt, Hannah Cummins (1789-1854), who had married Abner Everitt on 6 Sep 1803 in Flamborough West Township, then in the West Riding of York County, Upper Canada. Abraham Vannorman 61 male United States New Con Methodist plasterer Charity Vannorman 56 female Canada West New Con Methodist Mary Vannorman 26 female Canada West New Con Methodist Hannah Vannorman 19 female Canada West New Con Methodist Lovina Adams 9 female Canada West New Con Methodist Geo. Foster 21 male Canada West New Con Methodist from North Oxford C. W. 1852 census Dereham Township, Oxford County, Canada West 261 page 13a, (25) lines 7-12. Johnson Van Norman male 41 Ont NCMeth German married farmer Hannah Van Norman female 38 Ont NCMeth German married Bertha Van Norman female 16 Ont NCMeth German farmer Hiram Van Norman male 14 Ont NCMeth German at school Minnie Van Norman female 12 Ont NCMeth German at school Benjamin A. Van Norman male 9 Ont NCMeth German at school Chales M. Van Norman male 4 Ont NCMeth German Abram Van Norman male 79 USA NCMeth German mason Charity Van Norman female 75 Ont NCMeth German 1871 census Norwich South Township,Oxford County (south), Ontario 13B1 on Apr 17 by H. Hught page 16 dwelling 44 household 50 lines 7-15 image 9/89. Hannah Van Norman female 47 Ontario MethCC US origin widow Hiram Van Norman male 24 Ontario MethCC US origin clerk Minnie Van Norman female 22 Ontario MethCC US origin P.O. Charles Van Norman male 14 Ontario MethCC US origin at school Bella Van Norman female 8 Ontario MethCC US origin at school Wm. McGuire male Scottish 23 Ontario MethCC Scotch editor Bloney McGuire male Scottish 21 Ontario MethCC Scotch printer Daniel McLeod male Scottish 22 Ontario Presb Scotch clerk 1881 census Tilsonburg, Oxford County (south), Ontario 165C__ FHL 1375902 film C-13266 pages 67-68 dwelling 354 house 356 lines 24-25 & 1-6. Ancestry/com images 34-35. Hannah Van Norman female 55 widow head Ont USA Ont Methodist Bella Van Norman female 18 daughter Ont Ont Ont Methodist milener Charles VanN orman male 23 son Ont Ont Ont Methodist book keeper printer? Chas. Brookfield male 24 lodger Ont Ont OntMethodist ___ coal & wood Alfosa Pagett male 18 lodger Ont Ont CofE grocer clerk 1891 census Town of Tilsonburg, North Norfolk, Ontario 96C_ by John Chapman on 11 Apr page 11 dwelling W2/13 household 66 lines 18-22 Ancestry.com image 6/44. Hannah E. Van Norman 62 female Methodist born Hannonville, Wentworth County (sic Hannahsville, Halton County) died 24 Jul 1895 age 62 of Heart disease for 4 months by Dr. Joy informed by J. M. Taylor. Death registered 27 July 1895 by E. C. Jackson, divisional registrar, Tilsonburg, Oxford County, Ontario # 013261. Ancestry.com image 17/70. VAN NORMAN Johnson born Mar 24 1839 Died Sep 16 1878 Hannah Everett Mar 25 1833 July 24 1885 Bella Everett April 22 1872 Sep 27 1894 Field of stones website photo Tillsonburg cemetery, Dereham Township, Oxford County Ontario.

Hello Charley, I do have quite abit of info on the Nixons, but I can't trace them back very far in England. What I have of the Nixons is located geographically around Liecestershire and Nottinghamshire. My great grandfather came to the US around 1801, entering through New york and settling in Buffalo. My great aunt Annie claimed that her Nixon line was in Ireland and came to England 2-3 generations before. I could corroberate some of what she claimed, but my DNR would not support her contention. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Van Norman" <charlie@vannorman.com> To: <vannorman@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Isaac Van Norman > Jim Nixon, > > My mothers maiden name was Nixon. Do you have info on your Nixon line? > > Charlie Van Norman > > On 2/23/2010 11:55 AM, Jim Nixon wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda Schwenn"<schwel@comcast.net> >> To:<vannorman@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Isaac Van Norman >> Hi Linda,With all the activity with genetic material, have we been able >> to >> connect Isaac/Pierson to his father? >> Jim >> jiro96@comcast.net> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jim Nixon, My mothers maiden name was Nixon. Do you have info on your Nixon line? Charlie Van Norman On 2/23/2010 11:55 AM, Jim Nixon wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Schwenn"<schwel@comcast.net> > To:<vannorman@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:30 PM > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Isaac Van Norman > Hi Linda,With all the activity with genetic material, have we been able to > connect Isaac/Pierson to his father? > Jim > jiro96@comcast.net> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >