John I believe you misunderstood. I do believe the other children are all children of our Jan and Sara, just not Dirkje. However the one that lists Sara as Sara Thomas (Marie) makes me wonder a little bit. Sixteen was quite a common age to get married and have children during that time period. It may not solve any problems but it just might get it right. The records are fitting together nicely and our Sara and Jan are fitting right in with the first settlers families. Susan -----Original Message----- From: jroguetech@gmail.com [mailto:jroguetech@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 3:37 AM To: vannorman@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] I FOUND IT!!! Sara Theunis Interesting theory. Off hand, I can think of a few problems... Since you propose (reading between the lines) that Jan and Sara of the marriage record had no children other than Dirkje, either Jan or Sara died. There should be a widower Jan somewhere (there clearly is no Sara, widow of Jan Dirkszen). Or some of the children (including Jan Janse) could be the "other" Jan and Sara's (which would be back to square one), and would raise the question of why no children of the two pairs of Sara & Jan overlap. Basically, you are creating two new people that need to be accounted for. Where are they? Also, the court case with Jan being accused of stealing boots strongly implies Jan "van Arnhem" is a soldier, creating a link between "Jan van Arnhem" and "Jan the soldier". Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems this theory doesn't actually solve any problems, except the early birth of Dirkje, which really isn't a problem (as Pete pointed out, premature births weren't uncommon, assuming she didn't concieve enroute). In turn, you introduce a number of other problems. Sara's propossed age of 16 at the birth of Magdalena (abt 15y 6m at conception) would itself be a larger problem that Dirkje's birth date. It's certainly is worthwhile research - even if incorrect, you may unearth a link between Jan T. and Sara. I look forward to hearing more about the theory. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Susan Claggett <claimtofame@claggett6.com> wrote: > I am working on proven that now John but it is going to take some time to > sort it all out.  I went out and collected a lot of information and I am > adding it to my tree now.  We know that we have been dealing with more than > one Jan Dircksen and Sara Theunis.  I think our Sara Theunis and Jan > Dirckzen were born in New Amsterdam.  I think Sara's birth record is below > with her either being born or baptized as an older child in 1653.  I also > believe it is likely that our Jan Dirckszen was born in New Amsterdam as > well. > > > > > > 1653 20 Apr; Theunis Janszen; Sara; David de Potter and his wife > > > > > > I think Dirckje may belong to another Jan Dirckszen and Sara Theunis/Thomas. > > > > 1664 Dec 31; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Dirckje; Tryntie Grevenraedt > > > > I also think our Sara Theunis my have been from a Catholic family in The > Netherlands like Pete had mentioned and that they had some French ancestry. > > > > It may not have been our Sara Theunis on the De Trowe in 1664 which would > solve the early baby dilemma. Magdelena should be the first born/named > female and the sponsors fit perfectly. > > > > Below are the Baptismal records for the children that we have believed are > of our Jan Dirckszen Van Aernhem and Sara Theunis. > > > > Susan > > > > 1664 Dec 31; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Dirckje; Tryntie Grevenraedt > > > > 1669 Aug 18; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Magdalena; Jilles Joosten, Maria > Wouters > > > > 1671 Jun 04; Jan Dircxzen Van Aernhem, Sara Theunis; Jan; Jan Laurenszen > Duyts, Mayken Laurens > > > > 1673 Apr 09; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Abraham; Jean le Maistre, Susanna > Le Maistre > > > > 1675 Jul 14; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Thomas; Marie; Willem Van Leyden > > > > 1677 Sep 26; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Catharina; David Hendrickszen, > Tryntie Hercks > > > > 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Isaac (twin); Daniel Terneur, > Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters > > > > 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Jacob (twin); Daniel Terneur, > Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters > > > > I am having trouble getting this message thru to Rootsweb.  Sorry if it > duplicates! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jroguetech@gmail.com [mailto:jroguetech@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:00 AM > > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] I FOUND IT!!! Sara Theunis > > > > A lot of data... Could you peice it together for us? > > > > The critical question being what links Sara and Jan Theunissen, or Sara to > Amsterdam? > > > > James Riker's comment is certainly intriguing, but it's unsourced. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting theory. Off hand, I can think of a few problems... Since you propose (reading between the lines) that Jan and Sara of the marriage record had no children other than Dirkje, either Jan or Sara died. There should be a widower Jan somewhere (there clearly is no Sara, widow of Jan Dirkszen). Or some of the children (including Jan Janse) could be the "other" Jan and Sara's (which would be back to square one), and would raise the question of why no children of the two pairs of Sara & Jan overlap. Basically, you are creating two new people that need to be accounted for. Where are they? Also, the court case with Jan being accused of stealing boots strongly implies Jan "van Arnhem" is a soldier, creating a link between "Jan van Arnhem" and "Jan the soldier". Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems this theory doesn't actually solve any problems, except the early birth of Dirkje, which really isn't a problem (as Pete pointed out, premature births weren't uncommon, assuming she didn't concieve enroute). In turn, you introduce a number of other problems. Sara's propossed age of 16 at the birth of Magdalena (abt 15y 6m at conception) would itself be a larger problem that Dirkje's birth date. It's certainly is worthwhile research - even if incorrect, you may unearth a link between Jan T. and Sara. I look forward to hearing more about the theory. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Susan Claggett <claimtofame@claggett6.com> wrote: > I am working on proven that now John but it is going to take some time to > sort it all out.  I went out and collected a lot of information and I am > adding it to my tree now.  We know that we have been dealing with more than > one Jan Dircksen and Sara Theunis.  I think our Sara Theunis and Jan > Dirckzen were born in New Amsterdam.  I think Sara's birth record is below > with her either being born or baptized as an older child in 1653.  I also > believe it is likely that our Jan Dirckszen was born in New Amsterdam as > well. > > > > > > 1653 20 Apr; Theunis Janszen; Sara; David de Potter and his wife > > > > > > I think Dirckje may belong to another Jan Dirckszen and Sara Theunis/Thomas. > > > > 1664 Dec 31; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Dirckje; Tryntie Grevenraedt > > > > I also think our Sara Theunis my have been from a Catholic family in The > Netherlands like Pete had mentioned and that they had some French ancestry. > > > > It may not have been our Sara Theunis on the De Trowe in 1664 which would > solve the early baby dilemma. Magdelena should be the first born/named > female and the sponsors fit perfectly. > > > > Below are the Baptismal records for the children that we have believed are > of our Jan Dirckszen Van Aernhem and Sara Theunis. > > > > Susan > > > > 1664 Dec 31; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Dirckje; Tryntie Grevenraedt > > > > 1669 Aug 18; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Magdalena; Jilles Joosten, Maria > Wouters > > > > 1671 Jun 04; Jan Dircxzen Van Aernhem, Sara Theunis; Jan; Jan Laurenszen > Duyts, Mayken Laurens > > > > 1673 Apr 09; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Abraham; Jean le Maistre, Susanna > Le Maistre > > > > 1675 Jul 14; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Thomas; Marie; Willem Van Leyden > > > > 1677 Sep 26; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Catharina; David Hendrickszen, > Tryntie Hercks > > > > 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Isaac (twin); Daniel Terneur, > Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters > > > > 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Jacob (twin); Daniel Terneur, > Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters > > > > I am having trouble getting this message thru to Rootsweb.  Sorry if it > duplicates! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jroguetech@gmail.com [mailto:jroguetech@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:00 AM > > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] I FOUND IT!!! Sara Theunis > > > > A lot of data... Could you peice it together for us? > > > > The critical question being what links Sara and Jan Theunissen, or Sara to > Amsterdam? > > > > James Riker's comment is certainly intriguing, but it's unsourced. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am working on proven that now John but it is going to take some time to sort it all out. I went out and collected a lot of information and I am adding it to my tree now. We know that we have been dealing with more than one Jan Dircksen and Sara Theunis. I think our Sara Theunis and Jan Dirckzen were born in New Amsterdam. I think Sara's birth record is below with her either being born or baptized as an older child in 1653. I also believe it is likely that our Jan Dirckszen was born in New Amsterdam as well. 1653 20 Apr; Theunis Janszen; Sara; David de Potter and his wife I think Dirckje may belong to another Jan Dirckszen and Sara Theunis/Thomas. 1664 Dec 31; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Dirckje; Tryntie Grevenraedt I also think our Sara Theunis my have been from a Catholic family in The Netherlands like Pete had mentioned and that they had some French ancestry. It may not have been our Sara Theunis on the De Trowe in 1664 which would solve the early baby dilemma. Magdelena should be the first born/named female and the sponsors fit perfectly. Below are the Baptismal records for the children that we have believed are of our Jan Dirckszen Van Aernhem and Sara Theunis. Susan 1664 Dec 31; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Dirckje; Tryntie Grevenraedt 1669 Aug 18; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Magdalena; Jilles Joosten, Maria Wouters 1671 Jun 04; Jan Dircxzen Van Aernhem, Sara Theunis; Jan; Jan Laurenszen Duyts, Mayken Laurens 1673 Apr 09; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Abraham; Jean le Maistre, Susanna Le Maistre 1675 Jul 14; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Thomas; Marie; Willem Van Leyden 1677 Sep 26; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Catharina; David Hendrickszen, Tryntie Hercks 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Isaac (twin); Daniel Terneur, Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters 1680 Apr 03; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Jacob (twin); Daniel Terneur, Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters I am having trouble getting this message thru to Rootsweb. Sorry if it duplicates! -----Original Message----- From: jroguetech@gmail.com [mailto:jroguetech@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:00 AM To: vannorman@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] I FOUND IT!!! Sara Theunis A lot of data... Could you peice it together for us? The critical question being what links Sara and Jan Theunissen, or Sara to Amsterdam? James Riker's comment is certainly intriguing, but it's unsourced.

A lot of data... Could you peice it together for us? The critical question being what links Sara and Jan Theunissen, or Sara to Amsterdam? James Riker's comment is certainly intriguing, but it's unsourced. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Susan Claggett <claimtofame@claggett6.com> wrote: > > > I really don't know how to begin because I don't have it all formulated yet > and I want to say that my working theory is prone to several errors and will > need changes as we find documents and discuss.  But I do believe the puzzle > is framed and we need to fill the pieces.  Our Van(N)Orman / Van Arnhem > family arrived in New Amsterdam in the late 1630's and early 40's.  The big > clue for me was when I read James Rikers comment about Jan Teunissen and Jan > Dirckszen being brother in laws which I believe turns out to be correct but > we still need to prove it. > > After tracing Jan Teunissen's parents (married 14 Sep 1624) to Teunis > Janszen (Pier, Peer, Speir) born abt 1603 (son of Jan Teunissen Pier abt > 1584 and Aeltjen Willems Van Essen 1583) and Jannetje (Jannettie) Arentsdr > Joosten abt 1602 Toene (daughter of Aert Joosten abt 1575 and Mary Willems > abt 1573) I was able to make many family connections both in  New Amsterdam > and in The Netherlands.  The families are primarily from the Breda, > Willemstad, Heusden and the Tilburg area in the early 1600's. > > The primary families are Teunissen(Theunis/Theuniszen/Thonissen), > Janszen/Janse,Willemszen,Joosten,Dirckszen,(Dirix/Dirxssen/Dircken/Dirkse), > Corneliszen, Jacobszen, Peers, Brouwer, Pieterszen, Elbertszen, > Hendrickszen, Gerritszen, Andriszen, Arentszen, Abrahamszen, Laurenszen, > Fredrickszen, Van der Beeck (Van Der Burchgraeff/Beckers/Verbroeck/Baeck), > Verdon, Van Essen, Roelofse, Bremer, Philips. > > I will be sending several emails where I have copied documents as I found > them that looked interesting to me from various websites. > > Let me know if you see the patterns I have found.  Below is a history of the > Rensselaerwyck Voyage to refresh your memory. More soon... > > Susan Van Orman Claggett > > Rensselaerswyck > 1636-1637 Voyage > Thanks goes to Ruth Piwonka for transcribing this list for the Olive Tree > Genealogy > Source Notes: A J F Van Laer compiled a list of Settlers of Rensselaerswyck > 1630-1658 as an appendix to his translation of The Van Rensselaer Bowier > Manuscripts (published Albany: State University of New York, 1908). This > appendix has been reprinted by the Genealogical Publishing Company, > Baltimore, 1965 under the title Settlers of Rensslaerwyck. > Most of the settlers who came to Rensselaerswyck in 1637 came on the vessel > of the same name. Additionally a handful of settlers who first appeared in > accounts of the colony are described as probably passengers on the vessel. > The log of the voyage of the Rensselaerswyck was translated by Van Laer and > included in The Van Rensselaer Bowier Manuscripts. The journey was an > unusually long one, beginning at Amsterdam September 25, 1636 and returning > there November 7, 1737. It sailed from Texel on October 8, 1637. > Difficult weather was invariably the culprit. When not beset by severe > storms, still, calm, windless days made the ship drift for days at a time. > For 17 days the ship was off course and near the coast of Spain when the > captain at last decided they must head back because of limited supplies of > food and because more and more people were growing ill daily. His goal was > the south coast of England. There, at Ilfracombe, on December 8, Cornelis > Thomasz was stabbed by his helper, Hans van Sevenhuysen. Sevenhuysen died > the following day - a Tuesday - and the captain noted in his log how all the > people in this neighborhood went to pray on account of the severe sickness > which God is sending them. > The Rensselaerswyck at last arrived at Manhattan on Wednesday, March 4, but > could not travel to Fort Orange because the Hudson River was still closed by > ice. On Sunday, the 8th, two children born on board the vessel were baptised > at the Manhattan church. On Sunday, the 22nd, the widow of the murdered > Cornelis Thomasz, a smith, married Arent Steffeniers. Finally on March 26th, > the vessel left for Fort Orange and arrived there Tuesday, April 7th. Since > some of the passengers are first listed in accounts of April 3rd, these men > evidently traveled to Fort Orange via yacht. The Rensselaerswyck left Fort > Orange on 29 May. > This is not a proper passenger list -- but suffices nicely. Van Laer also > gives some additional 'biographical' data from the Van Rensselaer records > that are not included here. Interested researchers will have to consult the > original sources for these details > By the Rensselaerswyck. Sailed form the Texel, October 8, 1636; arrived New > Amsterdam, March 4, 1637. > .       Albert Andriesz de Noorman [Bradt] from Frederikstad [See Lorine's > Note below] > .       Arent Andriesz de Noorman [Bradt], brother of Albert > .       Thijs Barentsz, a shoemaker > .       Maurits Jansz van Broeckhuysen -- came as a farmhand; and evidently > returned in the Netherlands in 1642. A young relative of Kiliaen Van > Rensselaer. > .       Carstens Carstensz (Christen Christensz), commonly referred to as > Carsten > .       Carstensz Noorman -- prob came on the R'wyck. > .       Gijsberet Claesz (Gijsbert Claesz Jongen [the boy]) worked for the > Bradts. > .       Pieter Claesz (Niclaesz) from Nordingen or Norden, East Friesland. > He was the son in law of Cornelis Hendricksz van Nes. > .       Crijn (Quirijn) Cornelisz from Houten near Utrecht > .       Pieter Cornelisz from Munnickendam, North Holland; occasionally > referred to as Pieter Cornelisz Meulenmaecker (millwright) > .       Roelof Cornelisz from Houten near Utrecht ... brother Crijn > Cornelisz > .       Goossen Gerritsz from Westerbroeck > .       Robert Harmensz -- probably came by R'wyck > .       Adriaen Huybertsz - probably came by R'wyck > .       Rutger (Ruth) Jacobsz from Schoonderwoert, South Holland > .       Claes Jansz from Nykerck, Gelderland > .       Dirck Jansz from Edam, North Holland > .       Jacob Jansz from Amsterdam > .       Thomas Jansz from Bunnick near Utrecht > .       Jean Labatie 'fransman' -- from France > .       Arent Pietersz 'jongen' -- the boy > .       Jacob Pieteresz from Utrecth -- alias was Veeltje > .       Hans van Sevenhuysen -- sailed by the R'wyck butwas arrested in > England for killing his master Cornelis Thomasz in a tavern at Ilfracombe, > Dec 8 1636. > .       Arent Steffeniersz -- married at Manhattans the widow of the > murdered smith > .       Cornelis Thomasz on 22 March 1637. > .       Cornelis Teunis from Westbroeck; also referred to as Cornelis > Theunisz box, > .       Teunisz vanden bos, Cornelis Theunissen schoester and Kees schoester > -- signs his name 'Cornelis thonisen bos'. > .       Reynier Thijmensz (Tijmense, Timansz, Tymasen) from Edam, North > Holland. > .       Cornelis Thomasz from Rotterdam -- was killed in England by his > servant Han van Sevenhuysen > .       Teunis Cornelisz van Vechten -- probably went back the the > Netherlands and returned again in 1638. He was a boy in 1637 > .       Symon Walichsz (Walichs, Walichsen, Walinschsz, Walings, Walingen, > .       Waelingen) from Wijngaerden, district of Bildt, Friesland. > Lorine's Note re Albert Andriessen de Noorman [Bradt]: > His son Storm was born during this voyage, as per the ships' log. Storm > became Storm Vanderzee (Storm from the sea) > Lorine's Additional Research Note: > We also find, in NNC:4:3.66, an Amsterdam notarial document dated 26 Aug. > 1636 stating that Dirk Corssen Stam will be aboard the Rensselaerswijk as > merchant. > Additional Names courtesy of Howard Swain > .       Jean de la Montagne > .       Rachel de Forest > .       Maria de la Montagne (born on the voyage) > [Source: ijan tiepks Schellinger Log of the Ship Rensselaerswyck... Sept.25, > 1636 -- Nov 7, 1637 in VAN RENSSELAER BOWIER MANUSCRIPTS, ed. by A. J.F. van > Laer; 1908; p 369] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Schwenn [mailto:schwel@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:34 PM > To: vannorman@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] I FOUND IT!!! Sara Theunis > > You know how to create suspense! > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Susan Claggett > <claimtofame@claggett6.com>wrote: > >> I found our Sara Theunis' birth record.  After days of seemingly non stop >> trying to put this puzzle together I am pretty sure I finally did it.and >> the >> best part is my Dad was right!!!! >> >> More to come soon.I've got to get some sleep. My husband thinks I'm crazy, >> LOL.  I am looking forward to everyone's input and helping to proving it. >> So >> excited!!! >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Susan Van Orman Claggett. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have several BHIC records for the related families which I can not get to go through Rootsweb. Please email me privately if you would like for me to send them to you directly. My email address is susan@claggett6.com Thanks Regards, Susan Van Orman Claggett

Lucas Dircksen, from Berg, Germany, was one of the signers of the Lutheran petition in October, 1657, in New Amsterdam. His wife was Annetje Cornelis. They had several children. Dircksen came to New Netherland in 1652 or before. In 1654 he was given a license to retail beer and wine. Up to that time he seems to have been employed as a soldier. His business brought him a number of times into court, - to collect an account or to be fined for tapping after the hours of closing. He seems to have resided for some time at South River, where he possessed a house.

New Amsterdam DRC Marriages 1639-1801 http://virts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rbillard/na_marriages_1639-1801.htm -Records of the Reformed Dutch Church in New Amsterdam and New York -Samuel S. Purple -Dates show Banns registration NOT marriage date until 9/20/1673 1641 28 Jul; Albert Pieterszen, jm van Hamburg; Marritje Pieters, jd van Copenhagen 1641 28 Dec; Dirck Janszen, jm van Amsterdam; Jannetje Theunis, jd als Voren 1641 15 Sep; Barent Janszen, jm van Stockholm; Styntie Pieters, jd als voren 1642 01 Jun; Willem Barents, van Westchester; Maria Bullack, wid 1642 24 Aug; Cornelis Jacobszzen, jm van Vreelandt; Claesje Theunis, jd van Amsterdam 1642 16 Nov; Henricus Sibelszen, jm van Langendyck; Marritje Theunis, jd van Naerden laesten 1643 19 Apr; Roelof Janszen, jm Uyt Noordwegen; Geertruyd Jacobs, van Emmenes, wid Gerrit Janszen 1643 17 May; Adriaen Pieterszen, van Alcmaer, wid Grietje Pieters; Elsje Jans, van Breestede 1643 14 Jun; Huyg Aertsen, wid Annetje Theunis; Tryntje Harders, wid Hendrick Holst 1644 03 Jul; Melem Harloo, jm Uyt de Provincie van Middelsaxen; Elsje Jans, wid Jan Pieterszen 1644 09 Oct; Paulus vander Beeck, jm van Bremen; Maria Thomas, wid Willem de Cuper 1645 12 Feb; Paulus Heyman, jm van Leyden; Tryntje Barents, wid Claes Driessen 1645 12 Mar; Sybolt Claeszen, jm van Hoorn; Susanna Jans, wid Aert Theuniszen 1645 19 Mar; Adam Brouwer, jm van Ceulen; Magdalena Verdon, jd van N. Nederlt 1645 23 Jul; Adriaen Dirckszen, jm van Maerzen; Marritje Lievens, wid Phelix [Philip] Gerritszen 1646 07 Jan; Cornelis Maurichem, jm van Leyden; Christina Pieters, jd van Amsterd 1646 03 Jun; Ruth Jacobszen, jm van Renselaerswyck; Tryntje Janszen, jd van Breestede 1646 28 Aug; Dirck Corneliszen, jm van Wensveen; Marritje Janszen, wid Thymes Janszen 1647 24 Feb; Wilhem Key, jm van Haerlem; Tryn Roelofs, jd van Amsterdam 1647 07 Jul; Pieter Janszen, jm Uyt Noordwegen; Lysbeth Janszen, jd van Amsterd 1647 04 Aug; Simon Joosten, jm Uyt 't landt van Aelst; Marritje Simons, wid Pieter Vlucht 1649 17 Jan; Jan Janszen, jm van Tubingen; Baertje Hendricks Kip, jd van Amsterd 1649 14 Feb; Pieter Laurens, jm van Yselsteyn; Marritie Pieters, van der Burg, op Tessel 1649 18 Apr; Simon Joosten, jm van Meerbeecke; Annetje Boelens, jd van Amsterdam 1649 11 Jul; Govert Loockermans, jm van Turnhout; Marritje Jans, jd 1649 05 Sep; Wilhelmus Beeckman, jm van Zutphen; Catalina de Boog, jd van Amsterd 1649 17 Oct; Tobias Teuniszen, van Leyden, wid; Janneken Luyens, van Amsterd. Wid 1649 21 Oct; Hendrick Jacobszen, jm van Langendyck; Magdaleentje Gerrits, wid, van Amsterd 1649 24 Oct; Willem Pieterszen de Groots, jm van Haerlem; Lysje Gerrits, jd van Amsterd 1650 09 Jan; Lovis Joriszen, jm van der veer in Zeelt; Neeltje Douwens, wid Jan Janszen van Ditzmarsen 1650 22 Jan; Jan Peers, jm; Magdeleentje Jans, jd van Ditzmarsen 1650 06 Feb; Jan Arentszen van der Bilt, jm; Anneken Hendricks, jd van Bergen in Noorwegen 1650 20 Feb; Jacob Janszen, jm; Jannetje Jacobs, jd van Amsterdam 1650 19 Apr; Teunis Jacobszen, van Schoonderwourt, jm; Sara Denys, jd Uyt Oudt Engelant 1650 19 Apr; Volckert Janszen, jm van Frederickstadt; Dorothea Jans, jd van Breestede 1650 29 May; Hendrick Corneliszen van Valckenburg, wid Francyntje Frans; Marie Bouwens, van London, wid Ritzart Heyn 1650 07 Aug; Mathys Capido, jm van Bontze; Elsje Pieters, van Hamburg, wid Hans Webber 1650 25 Jun; Jan Janszen, jm van den ham; Grietje Jans, jd van Uytrecht 1650 01 Oct; Joost Gouderus, jm van Haerlem; Jacomyntie Wallings, jd Uyt Noordt Hollt 1650 22 Oct; Dirck Teuniszen; Ariaentje Wallings, wid, van Noordt Hollt 1650 27 Oct; Jan Maston, jm Uyt Engelandt; Dievertje Jans, jd Uyt Noordt. Hollt 1650 12 Nov; Dirck Claeszen, jm van Bremen; Aechtje Jacobs, jd van Shertogenbosch 1651 31 Dec; Gerrit Janszen, jm van Haerlem; Aeltje Lamberts, jd van Uytrecht 1652 07 Jan; Pieter Cornelis Vanderveen, jm van Amsterd; Elsje Tymens, jd van N. Amsterd 1652 21 Jan; Claes Thyssens, jm van Amsterdam; Susanna Pieters Smit, jd van Amsterd 1652 28 Mar; Claes Janszen, jm Uyt de Meyerye van Shertogenbosch; Volcke Jans, jd van St. Marten Uyt N. Hollt 1652 15 May; Jan Pieterszen, van Husum, wid; Grietje Jans, van Groeningen 1652 04 Aug; Jacob Curlaer, van Nieukercke, wid; Lysbeth van Hoogvelt, van Arnhem 1652 25 Aug; Andries Pieterszen Kuyper, van Amsterd; Lambertje Morges, van Uytrecht, wid 1652 08 Sep; Jan Janszen, van Groeningen, wid Agnietje Andries; Geesje Jans, van Groeningen, wid Caspar Springsteyn 1652 14 Sep; Albert Janszen, wid Hilletje Willems; Elpken Neven, van Eckelvaer in Holsteyn, wid David Clement 1652 14 Sep; Hendrick Janszen, van Aschwaerde in't Stift Bremen; Magdaleen Jans, van Swol 1652 06 Oct; Jacob Pieterszen, van Leyden; Grietje Jans, van Ditmarsen 1652 18 Oct; Ide Corneliszen van Voorst, van N. Amsterd; Hilletje Jans, van Oldenburg 1652 24 Oct; Cornelis Hendrickszen, van Dort; Magdaleen Dircks, van N. Amsterd 1652 22 Nov; Barent Janszen Bal, van Velthuysen in't Graefschap Benthem; Anneken Pieters, Uyt Holsteyn, wid Jacques Kinnekom 1652 29 Nov; Jans Janszen van Noordstrant; Janneken Gerrits van Loon, op't Sandt in de Mayerye van den Bosch -18 1652 04 Dec; Hendrick Janszen, van Schalckwyck in't Stecht Uytrecht; Tryntje Lubberts, van't Fort Orangien 1652 18 Dec; Charles Morgan, van Nieupoort in Wallis; Catalyntje Huyberts, van Haerlem 1653 01 Feb; Pieter Roelofszen, van Uytrecht; Willemyntje Jans, van Uytrecht 1653 01 Sep; Jan Swaen, van Stockem in't landt van Luyck; Marritje Jans 1653 19 Dec; Pieter Janszen, van Werckendam in Gelderlt; Ariaentje Gerrits, van Amsterdam 1654 19 Apr; Herman Theuniszen, van Zell in Munsterlt; Grietje Cosyns, van N. Amsterd 1654 20 Apr; Gerrit Hendricks, van Waerdenbroeck, in't landt van Cleeft; Hermken Heermans, wid Willem Janszen 1654 22 May; Barent Andrieszen, van Wreede in Westphalen; Elsken Jans van Voorden, in't Graefschap Zutphen, wid Jan Wesseling 1654 15 Aug; Gerrit Janszen van Steenwyck; Pietertje Heertjes, wid Claes Jacobszen 1654 27 Nov; Thomas Lambertszen van Naerden; Jannetje Jans, wid Jeuriaen Andrieszen 1654 18 Dec; Willem Janszen, van Heerd in Gelderlt; Leentje Martens, wid Jockem Pieterszen 1655 24 Mar; Jacob Theuniszen van Naerden; Neeltje Cornelis, van Amsterdam 1655 30 Apr; Jan Gerritszen van Boxtel; Grietje Jans, van Amsterdam 1655 26 May; Nicasius de Silla, van Aernham; Tryntje Crougers, van de Hage 1655 28 May; Jean du Pre, van Coma; Margariet Jans, Uyt Schotlandt 1655 10 Oct; Thys Lubbertszen, van de Ryp in Noordt hollt; Tryntje Jans, van Amsterdam 1655 17 Oct; Andries Andrieszen, van Westroos in Sweden; Wits Wytes, van Coudum in Vrieslant 1655 12 Nov; Andries van der Sluys, van Uytrecht; Marritje Pieters, van Amsterdam 1655 13 Nov; Pieter Jacobszen Marius, van Hoogwoudt; Marritje Pieters, van Amsterdam 1655 20 Nov; Lucas Andrieszen, van N. Amsterdam; Aefje Laurens, van Amsterdam 1655 04 Dec; Jan Theuniszen van Tilburg; Tryntje Pieters, van Amsterdam 1656 14 Mar; Matthys Muller, van Diedenhoven; Anneken Pieters, van Amsterdam 1656 24 Apr; Tjerck Claeszen de With, van Grootholt in Zunderlandt; Barber Andrieszen, van Amsterdam 1656 20 May; Thomas Franszen van Briston; Elsje Jans, wid Barent Andrieszen 1656 20 Jul; Fredrick Arentszen, van Swartensluys; Grietje Pieters, van Breda 1656 05 Oct; Andries Claeszen, wid Agnietie Anthonis; Marritje Jans, van Amsterdam 1656 07 Oct; William Couck, van Scharetz-Stryt in Engelt; Sara Pieters, wid Jan Janszen Schepmoes 1656 31 Dec; Claes Pieterszen Cos, wid [Neeltie Engels] Neel Ebgels; Grietje Maes, wid Claes Thomaszen 1657 04 Feb; Christiaen Nyssen romp, van Holsteyn; Styntje Pieters, van Coppenhagen 1657 03 Mar; Herman Hendrickszen, van Bergen in Noordwegen; Magdaleen Dircks, wid Cornelis Caper 1657 02 Jun; Pieter Janszen van de Langestraet, wid Dirckje Jans; Marritje Jeuriaens, van Coppenhagen in Deenmarcken 1657 13 Jun; Pieter Laurenszen Cock, van Alberch in Deenmarcken; Anneken Dircks, van Amsterdam 1657 15 Jun; Gabriel Corbesye, van Leuven; Teuntje Straetsmans, wid Tieleman Jacobszen 1657 05 Jul; Dirck Weyerts, wid Tryn Dircks; Lysbeth Pieters, wid Jan Huygen 1657 09 Aug; Jacob Jacobszen, van Middelburg in Zeelt; Machtelt Michiels, van Amsterd. N. Nederlt 1657 17 Aug; Jacob Stoffelszen, wid Vrouwtje Ides; Tryntje Jacobs, wid Jacob Walingen 1657 ?? Sep; Fredrick Lubbertszen, wid Styntje Jans; Tryntje Hendricks, wid Cornelis Pieterszen 1657 28 Oct; Christiaen Pieterszen, van Husem in 't landt van Holsteyn; Tryntje Cornelis, van Durgerdam in Noordt. Hollt 1657 02 Nov; Jan Ariaenszen van Sardam, wid Pietertje Sippes; Styntje Jans, van Nimmegen 1657 02 Nov; Lucas Pieterszen; Anna Jans, Negros 1658 29 Mar; Cornelis Corneliszen, van Lexmond in 't landt van Vianen; Willemtje Gysberts, van Barnvelt op de Veluwe 1658 29 Mar; Johannes Pieterszen Ver Brugge, van Haerlem; Catharina Roelofs, wid Lucas Rodenborg 1658 29 Mar; Jacob Toeniszen van Tuyl in Gelderlt; Hilletje Teunis, van N. Amsterdam 1658 04 May; Marten Claeszen van Bunnick, in't Sticht van Uytrecht; Jannetje Cornelis, van Amsterdam 1658 11 May; Barent Gerritszen, van Swol in Overyssel; Grietje Dircks, wid Jan Nagel 1658 01 Jun; Willem Janszen Traphagen, van Lemgo, wid Jutge Claes Groenvis; Aeltje Dircx, van Steenwyck 1658 01 Jun; Jeuriaen Janszen, van Aurick in Oost Vrieslt; Harmentje Jans, van Zutphen 1658 26 Jul; Philippus Jacobus Schooff, van Antwerpen; Jannetje Teunis Kray, van Amsterdam in Nederlt 1658 27 Jul; Dirck Houthuys, van Amsterdam; Geesje Steedts, van Swol 1658 01 Sep; Paulus Pieterszen, van Merven, in't Stift Colen; Tryntje Martens, van Aken in't landt van Gulick 1658 07 Dec; Barent Joosten, van Witmont in Embderlt; Sytje Laurens, van't lange Eylant in N. Nederlt 1658 12 Dec; Laurens Andries, Uyt Holsteyn; Jannetje Jans, wid Christaen Barents 1659 03 Jan; Gysbert Martenszen, van Loenen in't Sticht van Uytrecht; Neeltje Jans, van Amsterdam 1659 17 Jan; Pieter Hendrickszen Christiaens, van Voorburg; Christina Bleyers, van Stoltenon in Lunenburgerlt 1659 17 Jan; Gerrit Janszen van Campen, Soldaet; Macktelt Stoffels, wid Anthony Lodewyck 1659 14 Feb; Samuel Drysius, Predict. tot N. Amsterdam; Lysbeth Grevenraedt, wid Elbert Elbertszen Glasern 1659 15 Feb; Jan Artisert, Alias Niensovisch, van Amsterdam; Catharina Keeloos, van Cambrigs in Oudt Engelandt 1659 22 Feb; Jan Guisthout van der Linden, van Brussel; Jannetje Barents, van Haerlem 1659 05 Apr; Isaac Abrahamszen, van N. Amsterdam; Jannetje Jans, wid Adam Sandt, van Arnseym 1659 02 May; Ryck Hendrickszen, wid Judith Cornelis; Annetje Roelofs, van Amsterdam 1659 01 Jun; Thomas Verdon, wid Barber Imbroeck; Jannetje Claes, wid Tobias Toemszen 1659 06 Jun; Nicolaes Velthuysen, van Lubeck, wid Jannetje Willems; Aeltje Lubberts, wid Bicker 1659 07 Jun; Jan Lubbertszen, van Edam; Magdaleentje Theunis, van Voorsthuysen 1659 05 Jul; Cornelis Janszen, van Leyden, wid Lysbeth Jans; Josyntie Ver Sagen, wid Thomas Thomaszen 1659 19 Jul; Jan Gervon, van Beaumont in Walslant, Soldaet; Lysbeth Hendricks, wid Laurens Janszen Deenmarcken 1659 19 Jul; Hendrick Hendrickszen, van Groeningen, Soldaet; Styntie Thomas, van Amsterdam 1659 26 Jul; Cornelis Jacobszen Stille, wid Claesje Theunis; Tryntje Walings, van Amsterdam 1659 05 Sep; Gerrit Janszen, wid Aeltje Lamberts; Tryntje Arents, van Amsterdam 1659 05 Sep; Jacob Farmont, van Brussel, Soldaet; Annetje Andries, van Swoll 1659 20 Sep; Sebastiaen Claes van Sevenhuysen; Marritie Theunis, van Amsterd. in N. Nederlt 1659 24 Sep; Claes Gangolfs Visscher, van Amsterdam; Leuntje Pieters, wid Cornelis Janszen Cloppenburg 1659 02 Oct; Gerrit Hendrickszen, wid Ytie Jans; Lysbeth Cornelis, wid Marcus Pieterszen 1659 04 Oct; Cornelis Janszen van Hoorn; Anne Marie Janszen, van Tamerica 1659 18 Oct; Dirck Janszen, wid Janneken Theunis; Geertie Jans, van St. Marten in Noordthollt -25 1659 01 Nov; Jan Janszen de Jonge, wid Cornelia van der Vloedt; Catharina de Brull, wid Anthony Rademan 1659 02 Nov; Jan Beeren van Roermondt, Soldaet; Lysbeth Dircks, van Swol 1659 02 Nov; Jan Janszen van Langestraet; Marritjen Arents, van Zutphen 1659 30 Nov; Jan Maurits, Uyt Oudt Engelandt; Marritjen Hendricks, van Amsterdam 1660 09 Jan; Meynart Courten, Soldaet, van Aernhem; Maria Pieters, jd van Amsterd. in N. Nederlt 1660 10 Jan; Herman Jacobszen, van Embden, Soldaet; Weyntie Martens, jd van Amsterdam 1660 10 Jan; Hendrick Martenszen, jm van Coppenhagen; Margariet Meyers, wid Herman Janszen 1660 23 Jan; Andries Andrieszen, Timmerman, op't Galjoot; Anneken Salomons, jd van Amsterdam 1660 30 Jan; Arent Leonartszen, van Amsterdam; Gysbertje Hermans, van Voort huysen 1660 09 Apr; Willem Willemszen, van Amsterdam in N. Nederlt; Geertruyd van Mulheym, van Meurs 1660 10 Apr; Reynier Willemszen, Uyt Oldenburgerlt; Susanna Arents, van Amsterd. in N. Nederlt 1660 17 Apr; Hendrick Janszen, van Amsterd; Sara Thomas, van Pleymuth 1660 04 Jun; Jan Joosten, jm van Haerlem; Tryntje Jans, van Haerlem 1660 12 Sep; Paulus Turck, jm Nyt den Hage; Aeltje Barents Coel, jd van Amsterd. in N. Nederlt 1660 07 Oct; Dirck Janszen van Deventer; Marytje Dircks, van Hoorn 1660 18 Dec; Jan Gerritszen, van Worcum, in Vrieslant; Grietje Theunis, van Amsterd. in N. Nederlt 1660 24 Dec; Meynart Barents, wid Annetje Cornelis; Tryntje Reyniers, van Renselaerswyck 1661 08 Jan; Adam Dirckszen, van Colen, op N. Haerlem; Magdaleentje Lamberts, van Teelickhuysen, jd van Steynfort 1661 15 Jan; Willem Traphagel, wid Aeltje Dircx; Joosje Willems, wid Jan Verkinderen 1661 05 Feb; Jonas Willemszen, van Amsted., Soldaet; Priscilla Homs, jd van Amsterd. in N. Nederlt 1661 12 Feb; Claes Hayen, jm van Beeren, Soldaet; Marritje Claes, jd van Amsterdam 1661 26 Feb; Cornelis Matthyszen, van Stockhlom; Barentje Dircks, jd van Meppel 1661 07 Apr; Anke Bruson, wid Anneken Jans; Egbertje Dircks, van Meppel 1661 26 Aug; Francoys Dupuis, jm van Cales in Vranckryck; Geertje Willems, jd van Amsterdam 1661 03 Sep; Lambert Barentszen, jm van Weryen; Leentje Dircks Servaes, wid Arent Otto 1661 10 Sep; Pieter Andrieszen, jm van Thresonie in Brabant; Geertruyd Samsons, wid Jan Theuniszen, van Wesop 1661 18 Nov; Simon Barentszen, jm van Amsterdam; Wyntje Arents, jd van Amsterdam in N. Nederlt 1662 06 Jan; Cornelis Pluvier, wid Geertie Andries; Neeltje Couwenhoven, jd van Amsterd. in N. Nederlt 1662 14 Apr; Valentyn Claes, jm Uyt Saxenlant; Marritje Jacobs, jd van Beest, Uyt 't Graefschap van Cuylenb 1662 09 Jul; Huybert Lambertszen Moll, jm van Aernhem; Jannetje Willems, jd van Meppel 1662 10 Jul; Cornelis Aertszen, wid Belitje Hendricks; Weyntje Elberts, wid Aert Willemszen 1662 22 Jul; Jan Hendrickszen van Bommel, wid Lysbeth Jans; Annetje Abrahams, jd van Amsterdam 1662 05 Aug; Wouter Gerritszen, van Coetwyck in Gelderlt; Marritje Hendricks, van Alcmaer 1662 23 Sep; Barent Janszen, van Embden, Soldaet; Catharyn Adriaenszen, van Amsterdam 1662 06 Oct; Joost Janszen Cocquyt, van Brugge in Vlaenderen, Soldaet; Lysbeth Jans, wid Pieter Janszen Noorman 1662 28 Oct; Herman van Hoboken, wid Claertje Pieters; Marritje Pieters, wid Andries van der Sluys 1662 28 Oct; Marten Janszen Mayer, van Elsvliet; Hendrickje Hermans, van Amsterdam 1662 09 Dec; Paulus Heymans, wid Tryntie Barents; Claesje Philips, jd van Muyden 1662 16 Dec; Bartel Engelbertszen Loth, jm van Reynerwout in Drent; Hermantje Barents, jd van Reynerwout 1662 16 Dec; Abraham Lambertszen Moll; Jacomyn Jacobs, jd van Uytrecht 1662 28 Dec; Jan Braun, van Brisach; Marritje Hendricks, van Amsterdam 1663 02 Feb; Pieter Janszen, jm van Amsterdam, op N. Haerlem; Marritje Jacobs, jd van Hoorn, op Hasymes 1663 03 May; Adriaen Huybertszen, wid Judith Roberts; Thysje Gerrits, wid Willem Pieterszen 1663 04 May; Joost Adriaenszen, jm van Pynacker; Femmetje Hendricks, jd van Meppel 1663 02 Jun; Hendrick Barentszen Smit, van Lochem; Geertie Willems, van Nieukercke 1663 02 Jun; Mones Pieterszen, van Arbon, in Sweden; Magdaleentje van Tellickhuysen, wid Adam Dirckszen 1663 02 Jun; Isaac Grevenraedt, wid Lysbeth Grevenraedt; Marritje Jans, jd van Amsterdam 1663 09 Jun; Thomas Laurenszen, jm van Groeningen; Marritje Jans, wid Cornelis Langevelt 1663 20 Oct; Jan Pieterszen, van Goestorp, in Gulickerlt; Janneken Barents, wid 1663 20 Oct; Dirck Claeszen, wid Weyntie Roelofs, Pottebacker; Anneken Dircks, wid Evert Janszen 1663 28 Oct; Pieter Wouster Schotzina, wid Barber Cobry; Niesje van der Leeuwen, wid Adriaen Janszen 1663 11 Nov; Jan Escuyer de Parys, op Boswyck; Rachel Dircks, jd 1664 28 Jun; Ditmar Janszen, jm van Vlissingen; Geptje Pieters, jd van Amsterdam 1664 28 Jun; Jan Dirckszen, van Aernhem, Soldaet; Sara Theuniszen, jd van Rotterdam 1664 28 Jun; Nathaniel Pieters, jm van Leyden; Anneken Ackermans, jd van den Bosch 1664 05 Jul; Hendrick Claeszen, Soldaet, jm van Muyden; Janneken Barents van Deventer, wid Willem Simons 1664 16 Aug; Jacob Janszen, jm van Amsterdam; Sara Pieters, wid Jacob Colff 1664 19 Oct; Willem Isaacszen Vredenburg, Uyttenhage; Apollonia Barents, Uyt N. Nederlt 1664 12 Dec; Barent Court, van Rhenen, in't Stift Munster; Anna Jans, wid Andries Spiering 1664 27 Dec; Thomas Franszen, wid Elsje Jans; Neeltje Urbanus, jd van Amsterdam -31

Jan Theunissen Birth Date: 1640 Birthplace: New York Volume: 176 Page Number: 192 Reference: Bergen fam. des of Hans Hansen Bergen of NY. By Teunis G. Bergen. Albany, 1876. (658p.):92 Is this the same person as Jan above? Date: 1640 7 Jul Parents: Aert Theuniszen, Susanna v. Schurenberg Child: Susanna Witnesses: Jan Corn. Van Rotterdam, Tryntie Hendricks

Notes for RAGEL JANS: 1661, May 9 -- "... Again we have a Dutch patronymic, Maritje, daughter of Jan. [Rachel] was one of two daughters, age 1 1/2 and 4, who appear unnamed with their parents, Jan Theunissen and Maritje Jans, on the May 9, 1661 passenger list of the ship 'De St. Jan Baptist' ... The record of her second marriage shows that Maritje was born Amsterdam. The father was very likely the Jan Teunisze who was born at Amsterdam 10-19-1631, son of Teunis Jans from Deventer, Ourjas, Netherlands and his wife Jannetje Arents which couple had married (Amsterdam?) September 14, 1624. [The Lost Palatine 16:10]. " [John D. Baldwin research, B4, B19) "The two 'sons of Teunis,' Jan and Arent, adopted the surname of Pier, also found as Pyer. Jan's daughter Rachel, the wife of Arie Fransen is found as Rachel Jansen Pyer, Rachel Janse Pier, Rachel Rachel Jansen Pier, Rachel Pier, also simply by the patronymic Rachel Jans and Ragel (Dutch for Rachel) Jans." [Baldwin, B19] 1703, 1707, 1711 -- "Likely she used her married surname as the Maritje Ploeg, sponsor at baptisms of four of her DeLong grandchildren." [Baldwin, B20] 1712 -- "A witness to baptism of child in Kingston." [Baldwin, B20] 1716 -- "Sponsor at birth of Neeltje, daughter of probable daughter Willemtje." [Baldwin, B20] 1720/1721 -- "Rachel and Hendrick Ploeg on Kingston tax list, perhaps the mother and son." [Baldwin, B20] 1723 -- "Sponsor in Kingston" [Baldwin, B20] Children of ARIE FRANSEN and RAGEL JANS are: 2. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0002. html#CHILD2> i. FRANS2 DELANGE, b. 1681, Esopus, Ulster County, New York; d. 1755. 3. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0003. html#CHILD3> ii. JANNETJE DELANGE, b. 1683. 4. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0003. html#CHILD4> iii. MARYTJE LANGET, b. 1684. 5. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0003. html#CHILD5> iv. RACHEL DELANG, b. 1686. 6. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0003. html#CHILD6> v. ARIAANTJE DE LANGE, b. 1688, Rochester, Ulster County, New York. 7. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0003. html#CHILD7> vi. JAN DE LANGE, b. Abt. 1690, Rochester, Ulster County, New York. 8. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0003. html#CHILD8> vii. WYNTJE DELONG, b. 1693. 9. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0003. html#CHILD9> viii. JONAS DELANGE, b. 1696, Brabant, Ulster County, New York; d. August 1739. ix. GEESJE DELANG <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0044. html#ENDNOTE6> 6, m. ARIE PIER <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0044. html#ENDNOTE6> 6; b. 1688 <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0044. html#ENDNOTE7> 7. Notes for GEESJE DELANG: 1713 -- "probably a daughter. She was a sponsor 1713 at baptisms of sons of [her probable brothers] Frans and Jan ..." [John D. Baldwin research, B21] Children of ARIE FRANSEN and XXX are: 10. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0003. html#CHILD10> x. MARYTJE2 DE LANGET, b. 1678, Mombacus. 11. <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/t/Donald-P-Petro/GENE5-0004. html#CHILD11> xi. WILLEMJE LANGEN, b. Abt. 1680, New York City. REFN813 JDB] 1679-80 - By this time Arie was married to Rachel Jans(their son Frans was born 1681). Again we have a Dutchpatroymic, Maritje, dau. of Jan. She was one of two daughters,age 1 1/2 and 4, who appear unnamed with their parents, JanTheunissen and Maritje Jans on the May 9, 1661 passenger list oft he ship "De St. Jan Baptist". The record of her secondmarriage shows that Mar itje was born Amsterdam. The father wasvery likely the Jan Teunisze who was b orn at Amsterdam 19 Oct1631, son of Teunis Jans from Deventer, Ourjas, Nether land andhis wife Jannetje Arents, which couple had married (Amsterdam?)Sept. 14 1624. (The Lost Palatine 16:10).[JDB] --Witnesses atRachel's marriage to A lbert H.Ploeg: Ariaan Roos, Geesje Pier,Maria Nucella and Mary Singer. Marrie d by Dominie Nucella, atKingston, NY. Together they had two children. --[JDB] 1696-98 -Death of Arie occured during this period. --1699 - On April 17,th e widow Rachel married Allert Hendrickson Ploeg. "In thepresence of Ariaan Ro os, Geesje Pier (her uncle ArentTheunissen's wife? Her unnamed sibling on the passenger list?),Maria Nucella (wife of the Domine Nucella) and Mary Singer, wasRachel Pier with her chemise over her clothes married to AllertHendrickso n Ploeg by me (Domine) Nucella". She is called widowof Arie Franssen born Ams terdam, residing Kingston (Ulster Co.,N.Y.) The significance of the chemise i s that she brought noneof her first husband's debts to her second. I understa nd thatthis was symbolic, without legal binding. --1700-1701 - SonsHendrick a nd Teunis Pleog were baptised at Kingston these years,respectively. --1703,17 07,1711 - Likely she used her marriedsurname as the Rachel Ploeg sponsor at b aptism of four of herDeLong grandchildren. --1712 - A witness to baptism of c hild inKingston. --1716 - Sponsor at birth of Neeltje, daughter ofprobable daughter Willemtje --1720/1 - Rachel and Henrick Ploegon Kingston tax list, p erhaps the mother and son. --1723 -Sponsor in Kingston. [JDB] 1723 - [DWM] ha s Rachel died in 1723age 64 years. Change Date: 25 OCT 1998 More About Adrianus DeLanget and Rachel Pier: Marriage: Abt. 1678, Amsterdam, Holland Child of Adrianus DeLanget and Rachel Pier is: 72 <http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/p/Barbara-A-Pepper/GENE5-001 1.html#CHILD16910082> i. Frans DeLange, born Abt. 1681 in Esopus, Ulster Co., NY; died May 29, 1755 in Beekman Precinct, Dutchess Co., NY; married Maritje Van Schaick September 6, 1703 in Kingston, Ulster Co., NY DRC.

http://www.archive.org/stream/historichomesins01pell/historichomesins01pell_ djvu.txt GENEALOGICAL AND EAMILY 11 1 STORY 43 Bevek Straat. (Beaver Street.) Jacob Kolve, Jacob Van Sann, Avife Jaimekeu Lucas. Jacob Plieuix, wife Anna Van Vleek. Jan Evedse, wife Engeltje Hercks. Henclrick Bosch, wife Engeltje Dircksen. Nicholaes Depn. wife ('atalina De Vos. Jacob De Koninck, Henricns Selyns, Hendrick Boelen, wife Annekeii Coert. ' Conielis Van der C'nyl, wife Elizal)etli Arents. Laurens C'olevelt, wife Sarah "Waldron. Aln-aliam Delanoy, wife Cornelia Tol. Marckvelt Sthaa'I'. (Markettield Street.) Jan Adanisen Metselaer, wife Geei'tje Dircksen. Herman De Graw, wife Styntie A^an Steenbergen. Dirck Jansen De Groot, wife Bachel Phillipse. Peter Meyer, wife Baetje Jans. Arent Leendertse De Granw, wife Maria Hendrickas. Browwers Straat. (Stone Street, west of Broad.) De Heer Frederick Phillipse, Johanna Van Swaaenbnrg, Joris Brugerston, wifi' Aniui J^lanck. Jeremias Tothill, wife Janneken De Kay. Isaac De Forrest, wife Elizabeth Vanders})iegel. Sara Phillipse, widow of Isaac De Forrest. Jan Dircksen, wife P.aetje Kip. De Heer Stephanns Van Coxi- landt, wife Gertruid Schuyler. Jacolnis Van Cortlandt, De Heer Anthony Brockholst, wife Susanua Schrick. Eip Van Dam, wife Sarah A^an der S])iegel. Johanes Vanderspiegel, Pieter Jansen, wife Ariaent.je Gerritseu.

http://www.archive.org/stream/historichomesins01pell/historichomesins01pell_ djvu.txt XiEWK Stkaat. (X"ew Street.) Isaac Abrahanisen, Daniel Waldron, Vincent De La Moutange, Hendrick Gerritsen, Johanes Van Gelder, Heymau Koning, Melje Davids, Jan Willemse Koonie, J)aniel Pietersen, Arent Fredricksen, Jnriaen Xagel, A\'illeni Peers, wife Janneken Jans, wife Sarah Putgers. wife Adriaentje Jans, wife Maritje Waldron. wife Aefje Poos, wife Marritje Andries. widow of Abraham Kernier. wife Maria Bastiaens. wife Annetje Ackerman. wife Sara Thennis. wife Jannetje Pliillipsen. wife Gnetje Kierse.

http://www.stipak.com/hoagland/maria/bios/5.HTM Page 30]: "Samuel Rapalye," in 1703; "Jeronimus Rapalje," "Yan Rapalje," "Daniel Rapalje," and "Joris Rappalyee," all in 1723; and "Derrick Rappaljee," in 1739. In consequence of this prefix not having been used by Joris Jansen Rapalie and his immediate descendants, although in some instances used by contemporary clergymen and writers, the propriety of its being used by them in any case is very questionable. If he had been of noble birth, or of a station above the ordinary settlers, his contemporaries would, in the public records, have prefixed to his name the appellation of "Heer," (Mister), as was done in the case of Van Rensellaer, De Sille, De Bruynne, Poulus Van der Bek, and others. Joris Jansen Rapalie was probably a sailor, for on the colonial records of June 12th, 1647, in the office of the secretary of state at Albany, it is set forth, that "Jan Dircksen from Amsterdam, master carpenter, who sailed in the company's service in the ship Swol, lying sick a bed at the house of George Rapalje, chief boatswain ('hooch bootsman'), in New Amsterdam, makes his will."1 <http://www.stipak.com/hoagland/maria/bios/5.HTM#PC1D> Rapalie made the following mark for his signature to documents: [Sorry, image not available at this time--Webmaster] ________________ [Footnotes on Page 30]: 1See vol. 11, p. 349, O'Callaghan's translation Dutch Records.

ARENTSE. Andries Arentse Bratt, 1695. Benony Arentse Van Hoeck, 1700. Dirk Arentse Bratt, 1685. Engeltie Arentse Slingerland, 1713. Gerrit Arentse Slingerland, 1713. Leendert Arentse Graw, 1689. Rutger Arentse Schoemaecker, 1679. Rebecca Arentse Vedder, 1715. Samuel Arentse Bratt, 1685. Sara Arentse Slingerland, 1715. Teunis Arentse Slingerland, 1715. DIRKSE. Abraham Dirkse Van Vechten, 1699. Adriaen Dirkse De Vries, 1654. Andries Dirkse Bratt, 1727. Anna Dirkse Goes, 1732. Anna Dirkse Van Vechten. Annatie Dirkse Bratt, 1727. Annatie Dirkse Van Vechten, 1687. Benjamin Dirkse Van Vechten, 1739. Catalyntie Dirkse Ten Broeck. Catalyntie Dirkse Bratt, 1727. Christina Dirkse Ten Broeck. Cornelia Dirkse Ten Broeck. Dirk Dirkse Keyser, 1658. Dirk Dirkse Vanderkarre, 1694. Elisabeth Dirkse Bratt, 1727. Elisabeth Dirkse Ten Broeck. Elsie Dirkse Ten Broeck. Fytie Dirkse Van Vechten, 1687-1704. Geertruy Dirkse Ten Broeck Harmen Dirkse Van Vechten, 1793. Jan Dirkse Vinhaeghen, 1663. Jan Dirkse Van Eps, 1664-84. Jan Dirkse Van Bremen, 1648-62. Jan Dirkse Engelsman Van Amersfort, 1638. Jannetie Dirkse Van Vechten, 1687. Johannes Dirkse Bratt, 1727. Johannes Dirkse Goes, 1732. Johannes Dirkse Ten Broeck. Johannes Dirkse Van Vechten, 1687. Johannes Dirkse Van der Heyden, 1729. Lena Dirkse By, 1704. Luykas Dirkse Goes, 1732. Lydia Dirkse Ten Broeck. Lysbet Dirkse Van Eps, 1668-81. Maria Dirkse Bratt, 1727. Michael Dirkse Van Vechten, 1689. Neeltie Dirkse Van Vechten, 1687. Philip Dirkse Van Vechten, 1739. Samuel Dirkse Van Vechten, 1687. Samuel Dirkse Ten Broeck. Sara Dirkse Van Vechten, 1687. Symon Dirkse Pos, 1630-44. Takel Dirkse Van Heemstraaten, 1700. Teunis Dirkse Van Vechten, 1638-1704. Tobias Dirkse Ten Broeck. Wyntie Dirkse Van Vechten, 1687. GERRITSE. Abraham Gerritse Spoor, 1719. Adriaan Gerritse Papendorp, 1682-7. Aeltie Gerritse Lansing. Ann Gerritse Spoor, 1719. Annetie Gerritse Lansing, 1694. Barent Gerritse Van den Bergh, 1700-5. Barentie Gerritse Paus, 1683. Claas Gerritse Van Vranken, 1705. Cornelia Gerritse Spoor, 1719. Cornelis Gerritse Greeff, 1661. Cornelis Gerritse Van Schoenderwoert, 1642. Cornelis Gerritse Van den Bergh, 1700. Elisabeth Gerritse De Honneur, 1679-82. Elbert Gerritse Lansing, 1693. Geertruy Gerritse Van den Bergh, 1699. Geertruy Gerritse Van Schoonhoven, 1701. Goosen Gerritse Van Schaick, 1637-75 Gerrit Gerritse Lansing, 1702-1742. Grieta Gerritse Van Vranken, 1700. Grietie Gerritse Van Vechten, 1683. Gysbert Gerritse Van Brakel, 1699-1709. Gysbertie Gerritse Lansing Hendrick Gerritse Van Meulen, 1671-80. Hendrick Gerritse Verwy or Van Wie, 1689. Hendrick Gerritse Van Nes, 1736. Hendrick Gerritse Lansing, 1747. Hilletie Gerritse Lansing. Jacob Gerritse Van Schaick, 1756. Jacob Gerritse Van Laer, 1670-5. Jacobus Gerritse Brouwer, 1676. Jacobus Gerritse Van Vorst, 1671-89. Jan Gerritse Van Marcken, 1661-75. Jan Gerritse Van Oldenburgh, 1662. Jannetie Gerritse Papendorp. Jannetie Gerritse Van Nes. Johannes Gerritse Spoor, 1719. Johannes Gerritse Lansingh, 1730. Johannes Gerritse Roos, 1695. Johannes Gerritse Van Vechten, 1692-1700. Lucas Gerritse Wyngaart or Backer, 1670-93. Maria Gerritse Van den Bergh, 1702. Maria Gerritse Spoor, 1719. Maritie Gerritse Lansing, 1694. Marten Gerritse Van Bergen, 1630-96. Pieter Gerritse Kleyn, 1671. Reyer Gerritse Lansing, 1747. Roeloff Gerritse Van der Werken, 1700. Teunis Gerritse Verwey, 1666. Volkert Gerritse Van Vechten, 1681. Willem Gerritse Van Nes. Willem Gerritse Spoor, 1719. Willem Gerritse Van den Bergh, 1752. Wynant Gerritse Van der Poel, 1654-99. JACOBSE. Aeltie Jacobse Gardenier, 1683. Albert Jacobse Gardenier, 1677-85. Andries Jacobse Gardenier, 1680-97. Caspar Jacobse Halenbeck. Claas Jacobse Groesboeck alias Van Rotterdam, 1661-1707. Cornelis Jacobse Schermerhoorn, 1700. Cornelis Jacobse By, 1659. Cornelis Jacobse Van Oostsanen, 1661. Gerrit Jacobse Schout or Shout, 1697-1701. Gerrit Jacobse Lansing, 1734. Harmen Jacobse Wendel, 1749. Harmen Jacobse Bambus, 1657. Helena Jacobse Schermerhoorn, 1700. Hendrick Jacobse Beeckman, 1746. Herbert or Harpert Jacobse Van Deusen, 1683-1742. Jacob Jacobse Elkens, 1618. Jacob Jacobse Schermerhoorn, 1700. Jan Jacobse Van Noortstrant, 1677-87. Jan Jacobse Gardenier or Flodder, 1685-95. Jannetie Jacobse Schermerhoorn, 1700. Johannes Jacobse Glen, 1699-1704. Johannes Jacobse Eversen, 1744. Johannes Jacobse Lansingh, 1751. Josine Jacobse Gardenier, 1696. Luycas Jacobse Schermerhoorn, 1700. Magfelt Jacobse Schermerhoorn, 1700. Neeltie Jacobse Schermerhoorn, 1700. Pieter Jacobse Vosburgh, 1657. Pieter Jacobse Van Rinsborgh, 1663. Pieter Jacobse Borsboom, 1662. Pieter Jacobse Clockluyer, 1661. Pieter Jacobse Marius, 1663-90. Reyer Jacobse Schermerhoorn, 1678-96. Rutger, Rut or Ruth Jacobse Van Schoenderwoert or Van Woert, 1636-63. Symon Jacobse Schermerhoorn, 1683-1705. Samuel Jacobse Gardenier, 1681. Teunis Jacobse Bierdrager, 1661. Teunis Jacobse Van Schoenderwoert, 1640. Willem Jacobse Van Deusen, 1683-1731. Wybrecht Jacobse Dochter, 1661. JACOBUSE. Johannes Jacobuse Lansing, 1742. JANSE. Abraham Janse Van Aelsteyn, 1700. Adriaen Janse Appel, alias Van Leyden, 1656-83. Adriaen Janse Croon, 1660. Adriaen Janse Van Ilpendam, 1656. Adriaen Janse De Vries, 1656. Adriaen Janse Van Duynkerken, 1660. Aeltie Janse Wemp, 1663. Albert Janse Van Amsterdam, 1642. Albert Janse Ryckman, 1671-8. Andries Janse Witbeck, 1683-1700. Anna Janse Mebie, 1716. Anna Janse Van Hoesen, 1694. Anna Janse Goes, 1697. Barbar Janse Goewey, 1702. Barent Janse Van Ditmars, 1685. Barent Janse Bratt, 1681. Barent Janse Bal, 1660. Barent Janse Wemp, 1662-83. Bastiaen Janse Crol, 1630-41. Casparus Janse Bronck, 1738. Catharina Janse Van Hoesen, 1694. Claas Janse Stavast, 1672-84. Claas Janse Van Rotterdam, 1654. Claas Janse Van Baren, 1663-78. Claas Janse Van Boekhoven, 1662-99. Claas Janse Nykerk, 1634. Claas Janse Ruyter, 1638. Claas Janse Van Breda, 1639. Claas Janse Van Warlwyck, 1642. Cornelis Janse Cuyper, 1634. Cornelis Janse Damen, 1634. Cornelia Janse Gardenier, 1702. Daniel Janse Van Antwerpen, 1660-92. Dirk Janse Croon, 1660. Dirk Janse Smit, 1660. Dirk Janse Van Edam, 1636. Dirk Janse Goes, 1697-1700. Evert Janse Cuyper, 1681-1725. Evert Janse Wendell, 1658-74.

Child Cornelius Jacobs Sex m Father Jan Jacobs Type of deed baptism Religion RK Place Tilburg Place of baptism Tilburg Date of baptism 21-09-1628 Period 1621-1635 Contains Rooms-Katholiek (parochie Sint-Dionysius) doopboek Page 120 Number of inventory 8116 Record number 3 * View register * View record * Order record <http://beeldbank.bhic.nl/> * Print details <http://beeldbank.bhic.nl/> * Comment on this record <http://beeldbank.bhic.nl/>

Jan Dircksen Meyer married to Tryatje Andriesse Grevenraet and they arrived prior to 1652 from Amsterdam. The are referred to as old members of the church.

Jan Teunissen Year: 1640 Place: New York, New York Source Publication Code: 6306 Primary Immigrant: Teunissen, Jan Annotation: Also in no. 8360, "Settlers in Rensselaerswyck"; no. 714, Boyer, Ship Passenger Lists, New York and New Jersey, pp. 38-45; and in no. 9143, Tepper, New World Immigrants, vol. 1, pp. 21-31. See index for other references. Source Bibliography: O'CALLAGHAN, EDMUND BAILEY. "Names of Settlers in Rensselaerswyck from 1630 to 1646; Compiled from the Books of Monthly Wages and Other Mss." In History of New Netherland; or, New York under the Dutch. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1846. Vol. 1, pp. 433-441. Page: 439

1643 In the Wapen van Rensselaerswyck Sailed from the Amsterdam in September, 1643 Skipper, Jan Simonsz Arrived at New Amsterdam in March, 1644 http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nycoloni/shwvrens.html Persons to the Colony of Rensselaerswyck: Jan Dircksz >From Bremen, (Germany); was commissioned skipper of the colony's yacht Rensselaerswyck on Aug. 25, 1643, when he would seem to have been in Amsterdam, though he had been in New Amsterdam as early as Aug. 4, 1639. >From Sept. 14, 1648, to stubble time 1649, he occupied a farm at Bethlehem, which March 1, 1650, was leased to Jan Helms, for f445 a year. In 1651 he was in Catskil and Feb. 20, 1659, he conveyed his farm there to Eldert Gerbertsz Cruyf, in exchange for a house in Beverwyck.

<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Uxsef4jcgf0J:www.altla w.com/edball/dutchbap.htm+Burger+Joriszen,+Engeltje+Mans+Meyndert+Burger&cd= 7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Uxsef4jcgf0J:www.altlaw .com/edball/dutchbap.htm+Burger+Joriszen,+Engeltje+Mans+Meyndert+Burger&cd=7 &hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Date: 1640 7 Jul Parents: Aert Theuniszen, Susanna v. Schurenberg Child: Susanna Witnesses: Jan Corn. Van Rotterdam, Tryntie Hendricks 1642 30 Mar; Aert Willemszen; Annetje; Maurice Janszen, Mr. Arent Van Curlaer, Lysbeth Dirckszen, Rachel Vynen 1643 25 Dec; Jan Janszen-shoemaker, Sara Pieters; Abraham; Theunis Janszen-sail maker, Elsje Hendricks 1644 4 Feb; Paulus Janszen Van Vlissingen; Evert; Jan Dirckszen Van Bremen, Anthony Ferdinando, Abraham Jacobszen, Annetje Thomas 1644 28 Feb; Jan Dirckszen, Van Bremen; Tietje; Harmen Arentszen, Claes Cooren, Hendrick Westercamp backer, Annetje Gerrits 1647 20 Jan; Michiel Janszen Van de Berg; Enoch; Jacob Stoffleszen, Adriaen Dirckszen, Brechtie Maryns 1647 26 Dec; Cornelis Theuniszen; Geertie and Grietie-twins; Jan Evertszen Bout, Joost Theuniszen, Hendrick Westercamp, Femmetje Alberts, Grietie Harmens 1648 26 Jan; Elbert Elbertszen; Elbert; Adriaen Dirckszen, Jacob Wolfertszen, Marritje Lievens, Hester Simons 1648 Feb; Joost Theuniszen Backer; Ariaentje; Cornelis Theuniszen, Marie Philips, Susanna Sibouts 1648 25 Jun; Wessel Evertszen; Evert; Arie Dirckszen, Janneken Claes 1648 26 Jul; Theunis de Metselaer; Dirck; Hendrick Janszen Van Naerden 1648 2 Sept; Jan Janszen-shoemaker, Sara Pieters; Dirck; Hendrick Kip, Lysbeth Pieters 1650 10 Apr; Ruth Jacobszen; Engel; Jan Janszen, Teunis Jacobszen, Engel Jans 1650 10 Apr; Abraham Willemszen, Aechtie Jans; Abraham; Arie Dirckszen, Pieter Casparszen, Mary Claes, Janneken Jans 1650 29 May; Jacob Luurszen; Luur; Tobias Teuniszen, Janneken Claes 1650 5 Jun; Jochem Kier; Michiel and Dorothe-twins; Dirck de Noorman and his wife Chrystyn, Pieter Andrieszen, Daniel Sergiant, Elisabeth Cregiers, Claertie Ebels 1650 11 Dec; Michiel Pauluszen Van der voort; Jan; Adriaen Dirckszen, Hendrick Pieterszen, Grietie Gerrits, Hester Jans 1651 12 Feb; Hendrick Pieterszen, Geertie Everts; Adam; Joris Dirckszen, Styntie Pieterszen 1652 25 Feb; Jan Dirckszen; Johannes; Hendrick Hendrickszen, Isaac Grevenraedt, Christina Andries, Grietie Jans 1652 23 Jun; Jacob Janszen; Reyer; Dirck Nes, Lysbeth Cornelis 1652 21 Jul; Theunis Corneliszen; Cornelis; Willem Beeckman, Michiel Janszen, Maria Duycking, 1653 20 Apr; Theunis Janszen; Sara; David de Potter and his wife 1653 11 May; Lucas Dirckszen; Cornelis; Hendrick Gulick, Willem Beecker, Marritie Corne 1653 22 Jun; Joost Goderus; Jan; Dirck Theuniszen, Jan Jansz Van der Ham, Ariaent Walis 1653 2 Jul; Hendrick Dirckszen; Marritje; Albert Corn. Wantenaer, Tryntie Hadders 1654 15 Mar; Jochem Gerritszen; Gerrit; Joris Dirckszen, Tryntie Hadders 1654 17 May; Herck Syboutszen; Engeltje; Jochem Calder, Dirck Janszen, Susanna Jans, Annetje Lodowycks 1654 20 Dec; Theunis Janszen; Marritje; Heyltje Pieters 1655 18 Apr; Lucas Dirckszen, Annetje Cornelis; Hendrick; Dirck Smit van Lochem, Vaendrif, Elmer Huysen, Styntie Laurens 1655 25 Apr; Lubbert Gerritszen, Grietie; Gerrit; Albert Leendertszen, Dirck de Noorman, Ariaentie 1655 4 Jul; Hendrick Sihoutszen, Weyntie Teunis; Teunis; Arie Dirckszen, Jochem Caljer, Teunis Teuniszen, Belitje Jacobs, Susanna Jans 1656 30 Jan; Hendrick Sweeren, Egbertje Jans; Johannes; Mr. Gysbert Van Imbroeck, Thomas Jacobszen, Dirckje Jans 1656 26 Mar; Lucas Dirckszen, Annetje Cornelis; Arent; Gerrit Van Slechtenhorst, Engeltje Jans 1656 24 Sept; Dirck Siecken, Jannetje Theunis; Theunis; Aert Willemszen, Jan Lubbertszen, Annetje Aerts 1656 8 Oct; Joost Goderus, Jacomyntie; Frans; Evert Duycking, Dirck Theuniszen, Ariaentie Walengs 1657 25 Mar; Jan Dirckszen de Meyer, Tryntie Grevenraets; Pieter; Grietie de Riemer 1657 3 Jun; Dirck Claeszen, Aechtie Jacobs; Metje; Coenraedt Ten Eyck, Jannetje Teunis 1658 24 Feb; Hans Deper, Margrietie Jans; Hnedrick; Lucas Dirckszen and his wife Van de Mancke Snyder 1658 26 May; Lucas Dirckszen, Annetje Cornelis; Margrietje; Sibout Rievertszen, Margrietje Cornelis, Dorothea Cornelis 1559 14 Sept; Frans Janszen, Marritje Gerrits; Lysbeth; Pieter Couwenhoven, Aechtie Dircks 1559 21 Dec; Sara Dircks de Noorman; Sara; no witnesses 1660 22 Feb; Jan Corneliszen, Marritje Gerrits; Gerrit; Corn. Janszen Van Leyden, Egbert Wouterszen, Fytie Adriaens 1660 22 Feb; Aart Theuniszen, Middag; Theunis; Theunis Gysbertszen, Pieter Pieterszen, Annetje Hans 1660 14 Apr; Pieter Dirckszen, Aeltje Claes; Pieterje; Willem Coeck, Anna Van Ryseck, Anna Jans 1660 22 Dec; Christiaen Pieterszen, Tryntie Pieters; Marie; Dirck Theuniszen, Susanna Sibouts 1661 13 Mar; Lucas Dirckszen, Annetie Corn.; Dirck; Gerrit de molenaer and his wife, Hans Ketel 1661 3 Apr; Jan Beren, Lysbeth Dircks; Fytie; Jacob Montagnie, Anneken Jans 1661 4 May; Jan Tibout; Dirck; Jan Albertszen Wit, Magdalena Jans, Geertie Hendricks 1662 4 Jan; Dirck Janszen, Smit, Marie Dircks; Tryntie; Hans Styn and his wife, Marritje Damens, Lysbeth Pieters 1662 5 Feb; Douwen Hermanszen, Dirckje Theunis; Jannetie; Jan Corneliszen de Ryck, Marritje 1662 28 Feb; Adam Dirckszen, Magdaleentie V. Telckhuys; Margrietie; Geertie Theunis 1662 22 Nov; Lucas Dirckszen, Annetje Cornelis; Elsje; Hans Tryper, Herman Smeeman, Marritje Hans 1662 3 Dec; Denys Isacszen Van Hartvelt, Lysbeth; Lysbeth; Jan Dirckszen Meyer, Tryntie 1663 25 Feb; Jan Dirckszen Meyer, Tryntie Grevenraets; Elsje; Hendrick Van der Wallen, Metje Grevenraet 1663 30 May; Arent Dirckszen, Marie; Marie 1663 16 Dec; Pieter Janszen, Marritie Willems; 1 Abraham, 2 Sara; Mr. Harmen Van Hoboken, Geertie Rutgers, Dirck Janszen-Smit, Marrtie Dircks 1664 31 Dec; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Dirckje; Tryntie Grevenraedt 1666 3 Jan; Dirk Janszen, Marritje Dircks; Jan; Dirck Janszen Van Cleeft, Saertie Schepmoes 1666 Nov; Dirck Corneliszen, Lysbeth Joris; Johannes; Jeronymus and Catalina Joris 1668 19 Feb; Dirck Corneliszen, Lysbeth Joris; Joris; Cornelis Dirckszen, Aeltie Ariae__ 1669 20 Jan; Andries Claeszen, Tryntie Michiels; Claes; Jan Dirckszen, Fytie Michiels 1669 25 Feb; Dirck Janszen, Marritie Theunis, Theunis; Joris Jacobszen, Swa... 1669 Aug; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Magdalena; Jilles Joosten, Maria Wouters 1669 Sept; Douwen Hermanszen, Dircky Theunis; Douwen; Cornelis Janszen, Elias Michielszen, Tryntie Michiels 1670 10 Mar; Gysbert Elbertszen, Willemyntie Claes; Marritie; Cornelis Dirckszen, Blandina Kierstede 1671 10 Sept; Jan Dirckszen, Geesie Gerrits; Dirck; Lysbeth Cornelis 1672 Sept; Andries Janszen, Vrouwtie Idens; Catryntie; Jan Dirckszen Meyer, Hilletie Jans 1673 12 Mar; Jeuriaen Janszen, Harmentie Jans; Hendrick; Dirck Janszen, Helena 1673 9 Apr; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Abraham; Jean le Maistre, Susanna Le Maistre 1673 15 May; Jan Theuniszen, Tryntie Pieters; Abraham; Ambrosius de Waran, Pieter Suur, Lysbeth Gerrits 1673 13 Apr; Jean de Parisis, Rachel Dircks; Maria; Isaac de Foreest 1675 14 Jul; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Thomas; Marie; Willem Van Leyden 1675 29 Dec; gysbert Elbertszen, Willemtje Claes; Dirck; Cornelis Dircxzen, Grietie Hendricks 1677 14 Feb; Jan Hanszen, Jannetie Theunis; Hans; Theunis Janszen, Aeltie Theunis 1677 26 Apr; Dirck Corneliszen, Agnietie Jacobszen; Styntie; Jan Corneliszen, Geertie Jacobs 1677 16 May; Dirck Jansz. Veerman; Lysbeth; Gerrit Snediger, Willemtje Theunis 1677 26 Sept; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Catharina; David Hendrickszen, Tryntie Hercks 1678 13 Mar; Jacobus Franszen, Magdaleen Cornelis; Frans; Dirck Theuniszen, Immetie Dircx 1678 27 Mar; Dirck Jansz. de Groot, Rachel du Trieux; Jan; Jacob Pieterszen, Grietie Jans 1678 7 Aug; Dirck Corneliszen, Lysbeth Jonszen; Cornelis; Jan Theuniszen, Catalina 1680 3 Apr; Jan Dirckszen, Sara Theunis; Isaac and Jacob (twins); Daniel Terneur, Hester de La Maistre, Marritie Pieters 1680 21 Jul; Willem Pos, Aeltie Theunis; Willem; Theunis Jansz. Koevors, Annetie Bonen 1682 15 Nov; Arendt Frederickszen, Saertie Theunis; Theunis; Theunis Janszen 1684 2Feb; Wybrandt Abrahamszen, Lysbeth Wybrants; Tryntie; Albertus Philipszen, Lysbeth Jans 1684 9 Feb; David Hendrickszen, Helena Brouwers; Christina; Theunis Janszen, Susanna Simons

I really don't know how to begin because I don't have it all formulated yet and I want to say that my working theory is prone to several errors and will need changes as we find documents and discuss. But I do believe the puzzle is framed and we need to fill the pieces. Our Van(N)Orman / Van Arnhem family arrived in New Amsterdam in the late 1630's and early 40's. The big clue for me was when I read James Rikers comment about Jan Teunissen and Jan Dirckszen being brother in laws which I believe turns out to be correct but we still need to prove it. After tracing Jan Teunissen's parents (married 14 Sep 1624) to Teunis Janszen (Pier, Peer, Speir) born abt 1603 (son of Jan Teunissen Pier abt 1584 and Aeltjen Willems Van Essen 1583) and Jannetje (Jannettie) Arentsdr Joosten abt 1602 Toene (daughter of Aert Joosten abt 1575 and Mary Willems abt 1573) I was able to make many family connections both in New Amsterdam and in The Netherlands. The families are primarily from the Breda, Willemstad, Heusden and the Tilburg area in the early 1600's. The primary families are Teunissen(Theunis/Theuniszen/Thonissen), Janszen/Janse,Willemszen,Joosten,Dirckszen,(Dirix/Dirxssen/Dircken/Dirkse), Corneliszen, Jacobszen, Peers, Brouwer, Pieterszen, Elbertszen, Hendrickszen, Gerritszen, Andriszen, Arentszen, Abrahamszen, Laurenszen, Fredrickszen, Van der Beeck (Van Der Burchgraeff/Beckers/Verbroeck/Baeck), Verdon, Van Essen, Roelofse, Bremer, Philips. I will be sending several emails where I have copied documents as I found them that looked interesting to me from various websites. Let me know if you see the patterns I have found. Below is a history of the Rensselaerwyck Voyage to refresh your memory. More soon... Susan Van Orman Claggett Rensselaerswyck 1636-1637 Voyage Thanks goes to Ruth Piwonka for transcribing this list for the Olive Tree Genealogy Source Notes: A J F Van Laer compiled a list of Settlers of Rensselaerswyck 1630-1658 as an appendix to his translation of The Van Rensselaer Bowier Manuscripts (published Albany: State University of New York, 1908). This appendix has been reprinted by the Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, 1965 under the title Settlers of Rensslaerwyck. Most of the settlers who came to Rensselaerswyck in 1637 came on the vessel of the same name. Additionally a handful of settlers who first appeared in accounts of the colony are described as probably passengers on the vessel. The log of the voyage of the Rensselaerswyck was translated by Van Laer and included in The Van Rensselaer Bowier Manuscripts. The journey was an unusually long one, beginning at Amsterdam September 25, 1636 and returning there November 7, 1737. It sailed from Texel on October 8, 1637. Difficult weather was invariably the culprit. When not beset by severe storms, still, calm, windless days made the ship drift for days at a time. For 17 days the ship was off course and near the coast of Spain when the captain at last decided they must head back because of limited supplies of food and because more and more people were growing ill daily. His goal was the south coast of England. There, at Ilfracombe, on December 8, Cornelis Thomasz was stabbed by his helper, Hans van Sevenhuysen. Sevenhuysen died the following day - a Tuesday - and the captain noted in his log how all the people in this neighborhood went to pray on account of the severe sickness which God is sending them. The Rensselaerswyck at last arrived at Manhattan on Wednesday, March 4, but could not travel to Fort Orange because the Hudson River was still closed by ice. On Sunday, the 8th, two children born on board the vessel were baptised at the Manhattan church. On Sunday, the 22nd, the widow of the murdered Cornelis Thomasz, a smith, married Arent Steffeniers. Finally on March 26th, the vessel left for Fort Orange and arrived there Tuesday, April 7th. Since some of the passengers are first listed in accounts of April 3rd, these men evidently traveled to Fort Orange via yacht. The Rensselaerswyck left Fort Orange on 29 May. This is not a proper passenger list -- but suffices nicely. Van Laer also gives some additional 'biographical' data from the Van Rensselaer records that are not included here. Interested researchers will have to consult the original sources for these details By the Rensselaerswyck. Sailed form the Texel, October 8, 1636; arrived New Amsterdam, March 4, 1637. . Albert Andriesz de Noorman [Bradt] from Frederikstad [See Lorine's Note below] . Arent Andriesz de Noorman [Bradt], brother of Albert . Thijs Barentsz, a shoemaker . Maurits Jansz van Broeckhuysen -- came as a farmhand; and evidently returned in the Netherlands in 1642. A young relative of Kiliaen Van Rensselaer. . Carstens Carstensz (Christen Christensz), commonly referred to as Carsten . Carstensz Noorman -- prob came on the R'wyck. . Gijsberet Claesz (Gijsbert Claesz Jongen [the boy]) worked for the Bradts. . Pieter Claesz (Niclaesz) from Nordingen or Norden, East Friesland. He was the son in law of Cornelis Hendricksz van Nes. . Crijn (Quirijn) Cornelisz from Houten near Utrecht . Pieter Cornelisz from Munnickendam, North Holland; occasionally referred to as Pieter Cornelisz Meulenmaecker (millwright) . Roelof Cornelisz from Houten near Utrecht ... brother Crijn Cornelisz . Goossen Gerritsz from Westerbroeck . Robert Harmensz -- probably came by R'wyck . Adriaen Huybertsz - probably came by R'wyck . Rutger (Ruth) Jacobsz from Schoonderwoert, South Holland . Claes Jansz from Nykerck, Gelderland . Dirck Jansz from Edam, North Holland . Jacob Jansz from Amsterdam . Thomas Jansz from Bunnick near Utrecht . Jean Labatie 'fransman' -- from France . Arent Pietersz 'jongen' -- the boy . Jacob Pieteresz from Utrecth -- alias was Veeltje . Hans van Sevenhuysen -- sailed by the R'wyck butwas arrested in England for killing his master Cornelis Thomasz in a tavern at Ilfracombe, Dec 8 1636. . Arent Steffeniersz -- married at Manhattans the widow of the murdered smith . Cornelis Thomasz on 22 March 1637. . Cornelis Teunis from Westbroeck; also referred to as Cornelis Theunisz box, . Teunisz vanden bos, Cornelis Theunissen schoester and Kees schoester -- signs his name 'Cornelis thonisen bos'. . Reynier Thijmensz (Tijmense, Timansz, Tymasen) from Edam, North Holland. . Cornelis Thomasz from Rotterdam -- was killed in England by his servant Han van Sevenhuysen . Teunis Cornelisz van Vechten -- probably went back the the Netherlands and returned again in 1638. He was a boy in 1637 . Symon Walichsz (Walichs, Walichsen, Walinschsz, Walings, Walingen, . Waelingen) from Wijngaerden, district of Bildt, Friesland. Lorine's Note re Albert Andriessen de Noorman [Bradt]: His son Storm was born during this voyage, as per the ships' log. Storm became Storm Vanderzee (Storm from the sea) Lorine's Additional Research Note: We also find, in NNC:4:3.66, an Amsterdam notarial document dated 26 Aug. 1636 stating that Dirk Corssen Stam will be aboard the Rensselaerswijk as merchant. Additional Names courtesy of Howard Swain . Jean de la Montagne . Rachel de Forest . Maria de la Montagne (born on the voyage) [Source: ijan tiepks Schellinger Log of the Ship Rensselaerswyck... Sept.25, 1636 -- Nov 7, 1637 in VAN RENSSELAER BOWIER MANUSCRIPTS, ed. by A. J.F. van Laer; 1908; p 369] -----Original Message----- From: Linda Schwenn [mailto:schwel@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:34 PM To: vannorman@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] I FOUND IT!!! Sara Theunis You know how to create suspense! On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Susan Claggett <claimtofame@claggett6.com>wrote: > I found our Sara Theunis' birth record. After days of seemingly non stop > trying to put this puzzle together I am pretty sure I finally did it.and > the > best part is my Dad was right!!!! > > More to come soon.I've got to get some sleep. My husband thinks I'm crazy, > LOL. I am looking forward to everyone's input and helping to proving it. > So > excited!!! > > > > Regards, > > > > Susan Van Orman Claggett. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan, Your husband might be right about you being crazy? Probably most genealogist spouses would agree their spouse is a little loony. My wife certainly doesn't understand my sheer delight when I find information on an ancestor who had been dead for centuries. My wife has suggested a 12 step program as a cure and I'm fighting her all the way - I don't want to be cured! Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Susan Claggett <claimtofame@claggett6.com> To: vannorman@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Oct 19, 2010 8:22 am Subject: [VANNORMAN] I FOUND IT!!! Sara Theunis I found our Sara Theunis' birth record. After days of seemingly non stop trying to put this puzzle together I am pretty sure I finally did it.and the best part is my Dad was right!!!! More to come soon.I've got to get some sleep. My husband thinks I'm crazy, LOL. I am looking forward to everyone's input and helping to proving it. So excited!!! Regards, Susan Van Orman Claggett. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANNORMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message