Our oldest VANCE so far is Warren Vance, born around 1833, somewhere in GA. By 1860 he is married to Sarah GOUGH (also spelled GOFF) and living in Dale County, AL near her family. Should note that in the 1860 census, he is listed as VAN, not VANCE, and there are some other VAN names in Dale County. Warren served in Co A 25th AL CSA during the Civil War. He and Sarah had a number of children, including a set of twins in 1867 - John W. and Robert Lee. Robert Lee VANCE is our line. By 1910 John W. and Robert Lee are living with their families in Covington Co, AL, along with Sarah who is a widow by then. In 1920 Robert Lee is there, but not John W. or Sarah. Have picked up another side branch of VANCE. In the obituary from Columbus GA of Don's Grandfather, O. Z. McDowell (he married a VANCE girl around 1922), dated 1976, it lists OZ's sister Alice as Alice VANCE. Our bet is she married a brother of Vance girl who married OZ. Don and Mary in Wyoming