Wow, Randy! That was certainly fast! Thank you! I had found this 1880 census record for Tom and his family but now I need to find them in the 1900 and 1910 census. And I also need to find where the senior Vances were divorced. I did find the father of the whole clan of Vances in Labette Co., James aged 71, in the 1870 census living with a woman 30 years younger than him...and a bunch of little kids. I don't know if she was his wife or widowed daughter-in-law. At 1st I thought that Barbara had died because she wasn't with him but then I saw what the granddaughter had written giving her name as Vance-Glassburn and I found her remarried in Jackson Co., OH Thank you so much! Carole From: "Randy Dunavan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [KSLABETT-L] James Vance & Barbara Miller, WV>OH>IL>KS > 1880 Census Place: Osage, Labette, Kansas > Source: FHL Film 1254385 National Archives Film T9-0385 Page 379D > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > > Thomas J. VANCE Self M M W 38 OH > Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: VA > > Emily C. VANCE Wife F M W 34 IL > Occ: Housekeeper Fa: KY Mo: OH > > Mary Alice VANCE Dau F S W 14 IL > Fa: OH Mo: IL