Arlie - Thank you so much for filling in quite a few holes in my family tree. I didn't have any dates or ancestors for Andrew Vance and Ann Ramey. I also was missing the brothers and sisters of Mary. As far as my "Grandfather", I was actually quoting my Grandmother, Cora Vance Weber, whose grandfather, John Brown Vance, was the son of Jordon Vance (born 1791) and Mary Vance (born 1791) who were married in 1812. Mary Vance is the sister of your Samuel C. Vance. My Grandmother mentioned that Mary Frances (or Francis Mary) Vance was a cousin to her grandfather, and now I know that she was the daughter of Mary Vance's sister, Elizabeth! In addition, my Grandmother's other grandfather was Moses Jasper Bradford, whose older brother Isaac Neely Bradford married Mary Frances Vance. Through the Bradford Family Rootsweb site, I've also been in touch with a decendent of Moses and Isaac's sister, Sarah! I can help you a bit with the ancestors of Isaac Neely Bradford. (again according to my Grandmother) Adam Bradford (died 1849) came to Missouri from Snow Hill, Worcestor County, Maryland, by way of Bradfordville, Kentucky. His first wife, Nancy Cole, had died as well as some or all of their 4 children. (I've heard that he arrived in Missouri with one quite mature son.) His second wife was Frances Neely from Bradfordville. Her father was Isaac Neely and her mother, Ann Coppedge (this branch leads to some interesting history). There's a lot of interesting information about Frances Neely's ancestors on the seb site: ancestry.com. I found it by searching for Moses, but you could start with Isaac Neely Bradford. Glad to be in touch, cousin! Kathryn Hill Berkeley, California