JOHN VANCE b. 1784 of Somerset Twp., Washington Co., Pa. and JANE (KERR)of North Strabane Twp., Washington Co., Pa. had 5 children that I know of: 1) JAMES S. VANCE m. ELIZABETH HART 2) MARY VANCE 3) JOSEPH VANCE (under 21 in 1839) 4) ELIZABETH VANCE 5) JANE VANCE m. LOGAN VAN EMAN Does anyone know anything about # 2) MARY VANCE. Did she marry? Thanks, Clare

I am searching for Vances in Sangamon Co., IL. My Marcena (Marsina, etc) Vance married widower Alexander Reeves in Sangamon Co., IL in 1846. She was 18 and he was 54 with12 motherless children. She had 9 more children by him and another 3 children after he died about 1864, father unknown. Marcena was born Aug 1827 (approx) in what is now WV. She told her grandchildren that her father was a river-boat captain on the Ohio River and she had an Aunt Polly who had long red hair. That is all we know about her family. When her husband died in 1864 her farm in Fancy Creek Twp (just north of Springfield) was sold at a Sheriff's Sale to a Thomas Vance for $200 and he sold it back to her. We don't know what relationship he had to her. In the 1830s there was a William Vance (wife Chloe) in Springfield who was part owner of a river boat line on the Sangamon River. He had a sister Mary (Polly) who married an Eli Paine Hardin. Could this be the right family? Marcena named her children Rebecca, Harriet Josephine, James, Vashti, Barbara Ann, Alexander , Thomas A., John H., Abraham Lincoln, Daisy, Lorena Marcella, and Susannah Reeves. The last four, with their mother, ended up in Oregon and Washington in the 1870s. We assume she followed other family members here, but we don't know who. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? We would appreciate even the smallest feedback. Thanks, Carole in Portland

I am looking for the parents of William Vance who died 1803 Allegheny Co., Pa. His will states that his wife was Mary and his children were Andrew, William, John, Mary, Ann Thompson, Agness Camble and Jane Boyd. I am also looking for the children of Andrew, William and John in order to try to find the parents of my gg-grandmother Mary Vance who married a Mr. Neal ca 1839. I would appreciate any suggestions that you might tell me. Thank You, Clare Pebworth

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I think my father is a member and has tried that ave, but I could be wrong. That would be great if you would forward the information and see if anything pops out of the wood work. Thanx for the help. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 5:59 AM Subject: Re: [VANCE] Re: trying to find family links > Have you tried the Vance association. I will forward your message to a > couple of heavy Vance researchers and see what they have. I have heard that > the Vance from MS came from PA. > > Bill Vance

Very interesting indeed. If there was only a way to find out if my Vance is related to yours. ----- Original Message ----- From: Smith To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 10:49 PM Subject: trying to find family links Mat, I don't have anything on your Vance but have 2 other Vance's with very similar migration patterns in the same time frame that I had to respond to your message. William Vance b 1820 PA or VA, m. 1846 in Randolph Co IN to Margaret Wallace moved to Richland Co WI. Margaret's sister Anna married Jacob Vance in 1844 also in Randolph Co IN. The Vance families moved to WI in the 1850's along with the family of Isam and Mary (Polly) Wallace Margaret and Anna's parents. Probably just coincidence of names and places but as I said I had to write. Susan Smith [email protected]

We have Alabama Vance's. Warren Vance, probably around 1833 in Georgia, was in Dale County AL by 1860, along with who we think is a brother of his - Wayne. Both served in the 15th AL CSA. Wayne was KIA, Warren was wounded. He returned to Dale County after the war. He was there in 1870, but had moved to Pike County by 1880 (or did the boundaries change?) Warren married Sarah Ann Goff. If anyone is interested, we have more on this line. Mary and Don in Wyoming >> Do you have any information of the parents of your Alexander Vance. My >line >> is James Alexander that descendents came to AL and then to MS in the early >> 1830 >> >> Bill Vance >> Houston Texas >

We do not have information on his parents. My father has done quite a bit of research in census records and has found some possible leads that all have boys about the same age in the Shenandoah Valley area. Part of the problem, atleast in most cases, is that they did not record any of the children's names until they got married or something else happened. This is why we hit the dead end. I have all the information on his children to the present, but not what we need. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [VANCE] Trying to find family links > Do you have any information of the parents of your Alexander Vance. My line > is James Alexander that descendents came to AL and then to MS in the early > 1830 > > Bill Vance > Houston Texas

We have a Vance link in our family and we would like to see if anyone has any information that would help like us into a larger family. My ancestors information is as follows: Alexander Vance Born: 14 Mar 1814 in the Shenandoah Valley area in Virginia Married: 14 Mar 1839 in Sullivan County, Indiana Died: 30 Jan 1885 in Sterling, Vernon County, Wisconsin His wife's info is as follows: Susan Sloane Born: 10 Aug 1820 in Sullivan County, Indiana Died: 23 Nov 1901 in Sterling, Vernon County, Wisconsin Again Please let me know if you have any information. Thanx, Mat Skildum

I am looking for info about Harry VANCE d. 1971 Penticton B.C. His spouse spouse Laura JOLLIFFE D. AFTER 1979 Penticton B.C. Children: Doreen Vance b. abt 1925. Married Herb LUETZIN and lived in Kamloops for several years. Gilda VANCE b. abt 1929. Married Jack Love and spent ta few years on Vancouver Island. Laura was my father's sister. They all moved from Fort Saskatchewan Alberta to Penticton about 1944/45.

Hi List, Moses Vance of Fayette County,PA (born 1773) supposedly had two daughters. One by the name of Margaret (BORN 1794) who "seems to" have married a James Shaw. The other daughter was Elizabeth....does anyone know what happened to her? Who she married, etc...... Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Connie

Did any of your Vances go south into Alabama or Georgia? Mary and Don in Wyoming Hi! I am looking for any information on Virginia "Jennie" Vance and her family, particularly her mother's side. I know Virgina was born around 1808 in TN. She married Wilson Rose. She would be my great-great-great grandmother. Her mother is said to be Cherokee. I would like to verify this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Susie

Hi! I am looking for any information on Virginia "Jennie" Vance and her family, particularly her mother's side. I know Virgina was born around 1808 in TN. She married Wilson Rose. She would be my great-great-great grandmother. Her mother is said to be Cherokee. I would like to verify this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Susie

Hi Listers, I am looking for ANY information regarding MARY VANCE, dau. of JOHN VANCE and JANE (KERR); and grandchild of ISAAC VANCE and MARY (COTTON). Did she marry? If so whom? Any birth and/or death dates; etc.? Thanks so very much, Clare Pebworth Clearwater, Fla.

On the 1880 Buchanan County, VA Census is a family that seems to disappear and what makes the search harder is of course the lack of an 1890 census. I have looked in several surrounding counties in 1900 but can't find these Vances! Nancy Vance was the daughter of Jacob III and Jane McClanahan BLAIR, and the Blair's pretty much stayed in the area of Buchanan Co. that later became Dickenson Co. 1880 CENSUS John Vance 38 b.Wise Co. son of David & Elizabeth Rose VANCE Nancy Vance 36 b. Russell Co. dau. of Jacob & Jane McClanahan Blair Married 1861 Buchanan Co. VA. John 16 Andrew 14 George W 11 Alexander 8 David 6 Does anyone connect? Seem to have hit a brick wall. I have already researched the 1900 Census for most of these Counties and they are not there....Where did they go? Thanks for any help John Blair

Arlie - Thank you so much for filling in quite a few holes in my family tree. I didn't have any dates or ancestors for Andrew Vance and Ann Ramey. I also was missing the brothers and sisters of Mary. As far as my "Grandfather", I was actually quoting my Grandmother, Cora Vance Weber, whose grandfather, John Brown Vance, was the son of Jordon Vance (born 1791) and Mary Vance (born 1791) who were married in 1812. Mary Vance is the sister of your Samuel C. Vance. My Grandmother mentioned that Mary Frances (or Francis Mary) Vance was a cousin to her grandfather, and now I know that she was the daughter of Mary Vance's sister, Elizabeth! In addition, my Grandmother's other grandfather was Moses Jasper Bradford, whose older brother Isaac Neely Bradford married Mary Frances Vance. Through the Bradford Family Rootsweb site, I've also been in touch with a decendent of Moses and Isaac's sister, Sarah! I can help you a bit with the ancestors of Isaac Neely Bradford. (again according to my Grandmother) Adam Bradford (died 1849) came to Missouri from Snow Hill, Worcestor County, Maryland, by way of Bradfordville, Kentucky. His first wife, Nancy Cole, had died as well as some or all of their 4 children. (I've heard that he arrived in Missouri with one quite mature son.) His second wife was Frances Neely from Bradfordville. Her father was Isaac Neely and her mother, Ann Coppedge (this branch leads to some interesting history). There's a lot of interesting information about Frances Neely's ancestors on the seb site: ancestry.com. I found it by searching for Moses, but you could start with Isaac Neely Bradford. Glad to be in touch, cousin! Kathryn Hill Berkeley, California

> Isaac Neely Bradford, married Mary Frances Vance, a cousin to my > grandfather, in Relfe, Missouri" > > Probably a lot of Mary's, but ... But your Mary is mine, too. <g> Actually, I've seen it as Francis Mary Vance, not Mary Frances. Mary Frances Vance was a relative of hers, and married into the Bradford line, as well. Below is my descent from her, and from her sister Elizabeth H Vance. Who was your grandfather, and where does he fit in? Alie 1 Andrew VANCE - -------------------------------------- Birth: 25 Dec 1735, Virginia Death: 25 Mar 1808 Father: Andrew VANCE (?1666-1754) Mother: Jane HOGE (~1675-) Spouse: Ann RAMEY Birth: 8 Feb 1752, Winchester, Virginia Father: James RAMEY Mother: Elizabeth Marr: 15 Oct 1768 Children: John (1769-1799) Alexander (Died as Infant) (1771-1772) Samuel C (1773-1843) Rachel (1775-1844) Andrew (1778-1831) Elizabeth (1781-) Jane (1785-) James (1788-) Mary (1791-1825) Ann (1794-1809) 1.1 Samuel C VANCE - -------------------------------------- Birth: 10 Jan 1773, Kentucky Death: 17 Sep 1843, St Francois co, Missouri Spouse: Lucy ROUTT Birth: 25 Aug 1776, Bourbon, Kentucky Death: 27 Sep 1844 Father: Col William ROUTT (~1732-1823) Mother: Winnifred BYRAM (1734-) Marr: 7 Feb 1799, Kentucky Children: John (1799-1838) Isaac (1801-1806) George R (1802-1802) Ann (1804-1804) Winnifred B (1805-1847) Andrew J (1807-1862) Sallie G (1808->1843) Elizabeth H (1811-1860) William R (1813-1856) Byram R (1814-1814) Francis Mary (1815-1901) Samuel C (1819-) 1.1.1 Elizabeth H VANCE - -------------------------------------- Birth: 25 May 1811, Bourbon co, Kentucky Death: 3 Nov 1860, Missouri Spouse: William Anderson McFARLAND Birth: 10 Nov 1811, Haywood, Buncombe co, North Carolina Death: Apr 1860, St Francois co, Missouri Father: Jesse McFARLAND (1784-1826) Mother: Isabella Henry BOYD Marr: 31 Oct 1838, St Francois co, Missouri Children: Samuel Vance (1839-1863) Jesse Henry (1841-1926) George R (1843-1914) John N (M?) (1845-1849) Elizabeth Herbert (1847-1918) William H (1847-1880) Augusta Isabella (1849-1940) Frank E (1852-1934) Lucy Jane (1855-1933) 1.1.1.1 Elizabeth Herbert McFARLAND - -------------------------------------- Birth: 7 Apr 1847, St Francois co, Missouri Death: 8 Mar 1918, near Lynchburg, LaClede co, Missouri Spouse: Samuel Vance BRADFORD Birth: 11 May 1846, Relfe, Phelps co, Missouri Death: 17 Apr 1920, Prosperity, Jasper co, Missouri Father: Isaac Neely BRADFORD (1805-1872) Mother: Francis Mary VANCE (1815-1901) Marr: 4 Sep 1871 Children: Eva Frances (1872-1961) Ida Augusta (1874-1969) Herbert Vance (1877-1979) Lucy E William H Elizabeth H Neely L 1.1.1.1.1 Herbert Vance BRADFORD - -------------------------------------- Birth: 13 Aug 1877, Pulaski co, Missouri Death: 18 Aug 1979, Medford, Jackson co, Oregon 97501 Spouse: Cordelia Eunice PATTERSON Birth: 4 Oct 1878, LaClede, Linn co, Missouri Death: 18 Aug 1938, Denver, Denver co, Colorado Father: James Daniel PATTERSON (1840->1878) Mother: Nancy Emaline BOWMAN (1841-1910) Marr: 10 Jan 1899, Ste Anne, Missouri Children: Rolland H (1900-1988) Samuel J (1903-1974) Henry Franklin [living?] Neely Elza [living] Glen H [living?] Sibyl Eunice (1915-1960) [*my grandmother*] 1.1.2 Francis Mary VANCE - -------------------------------------- Birth: 29 Aug 1815, Missouri Death: 14 Jul 1901, Relfe, Phelps co, Missouri Burial: Missouri Spouse: Isaac Neely BRADFORD [see descent from Isaac & Francis above]

Hi all, I have updated my website with more information. Please take a look at it and let me know if you have any information or questions for me. http://people.ce.mediaone.net/backster/index.html I am also looking for information on a Thomas Bridges that was married to Frances Miller in McDonough County, a James Bridges, son of Shadrack, whom (James) I know nothing about and a Benjamin Bridges, possible brother of Shadrack, who was in the Revolutionary War. For Thomas Bridges, I want to find out how he is related to Shadrack Bridges. thank you, julie:)

My Missouri grandmother's notes say, "The oldest Bradford son, Isaac Neely Bradford (known as 'Neely'), married Mary Frances Vance, a cousin to my grandfather, in Relfe, Missouri". I don't know where they went after that. Her grandfather was born in 1823. Probably a lot of Mary's, but ... Kathryn Hill

I am still looking for a Mary Vance who ca 1838 married a Neal/Neel/Neill/etc. I don't know if she was single or a widow at that time. She was b. ca 1810; d. 1874, Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., Pa. The census says that she was b. in Pa. but you know how those records were - questionable. There could be a connection with the Kelly family or the Taylor family in Pittsburgh. Thanks for any tidbit that may help me. Believe me, nothing is unimportant. Clare