Hi Helen, Welcome to the VANCE list. My VANCE relatives are also from MO, in nearby counties to your relatives. I didn't find a match for your Nancy but maybe you'll recognize some other names. Let me know if you do. Jan Descendants of William M Vance 1 William M Vance 1826 - 1905 b: October 27, 1826 in Shenandoah Valley, VA 1880 census Dallas Co, MO d: March 30, 1905 in Union Twp, Webster Co, MO .. +Nancy Emmaline Watham 1825 - 1872 b: April 26, 1825 in Shenandoah Valley, VA m: October 11, 1843 in Smyth Co, VA d: March 1872 in Washington Twp, Dallas Co, MO ......... 2 John W Vance 1844 - 1898 b: September 13, 1844 d: March 06, 1898 ......... 2 Rachael E. Vance 1846 - b: December 17, 1846 in Smyth Co, VA ............. +Smith m: Abt. 1864 in Dallas Co, MO ......... 2 Mary Ann Vance 1848 - 1866 b: October 22, 1848 in Smyth Co, VA d: December 17, 1866 in Sheridan, Dallas Co, MO ............. +Samuel C Dollar m: Abt. 1865 in Polk Co, MO ......... 2 Sarah Jane Vance 1850 - b: April 24, 1850 in Smyth Co, VA ............. +Oliver S Tharp m: February 05, 1868 in Jackson Twp, Dallas Co, MO ......... 2 Robert Jefferson Vance 1856 - 1937 b: October 28, 1856 in Bolivar, Polk Co, MO d: November 05, 1937 in Gore, Sequoyah Co, OK ............. +Edmonia Caroline Davis ......... *2nd Wife of Robert Jefferson Vance: ............. +Etta Davis ......... *3rd Wife of Robert Jefferson Vance: ............. +Martha Elizabeth Wright m: January 02, 1875 in Berryville, Carroll Co, AR ......... 2 Nancy Elizabeth Vance 1858 - b: June 07, 1858 in Marion, Polk CO, MO ............. +John W Pheifer m: Abt. 1873 in Dallas Co, MO ......... 2 Martha Lavina Vance 1862 - 1864 b: April 26, 1862 in Marion, Polk CO, MO d: October 21, 1864 in "MARION, Polk Co" ......... 2 [1] Thomas J Vance 1866 - 1937 b: March 06, 1866 in Marion, Polk CO, MO d: January 01, 1937 ............. +[2] Mary E Davis ......... *2nd Wife of [1] Thomas J Vance: ............. +[3] Martha S. Gragg ......... *3rd Wife of [1] Thomas J Vance: ............. +[4] Sarah B Harris m: December 24, 1893 in Crawford Co,AR *2nd Wife of William M Vance: .. +Mary Elizabeth Pfeifer 1848 - 1931 b: August 18, 1848 in Conway, Laclede Co,MO m: September 26, 1905 in Union Twp, Webster Co, MO d: February 27, 1931 in Conway, Laclede Co,MO -buried Good Springs Cem, Union Twp, Webster Co, MO ......... 2 Jewel Martha Bell Vance 1878 - 1954 b: December 27, 1878 in Washington Twp.,Dallas Co. ?, MO d: October 01, 1954 in Conway, MO (buried at Conway Baptist Cemetery) ............. +George Hugh Cain 1876 - 1955 b: September 16, 1876 in Conway, Laclede Co, MO m: May 10, 1898 in Dadiville, MO d: December 27, 1955 in Conway, Laclede Co, MO (buried at Conway Baptist Cemetery) ......... 2 Rhoda Vance 1882 - 1892 b: January 05, 1882 in Wash., MO d: August 09, 1892 in Webster, MO ......... 2 Laura Vance 1876 - b: February 29, 1876 ......... 2 [1] Thomas J Vance 1866 - 1937 b: March 06, 1866 in Marion, Polk CO, MO d: January 01, 1937 ............. +[2] Mary E Davis ......... *2nd Wife of [1] Thomas J Vance: ............. +[3] Martha S. Gragg ......... *3rd Wife of [1] Thomas J Vance: ............. +[4] Sarah B Harris m: December 24, 1893 in Crawford Co,AR

Just signed up. Is this a pretty active list? This is what I have on my Vance line. Not much I'm afraid. My gg grandmother Nancy Elizabeth Vance her is the info I copied and pasted from my site. 22. Thomas Hart Benton Moulder 1 was born on 25 Jun 1855 in , Camden County, MO, died on 27 Jul 1928 in , Camden County, MO and was buried in Homestead Of Albin F Moulder. Ancestral File Number:3D6D-67. Thomas married Nancy Elizabeth Vance, daughter of John Vance and Hannah Rhodes, on 17 Feb 1876 in , Camden County, MO. Nancy was born on 27 Apr 1858 in <, Camden County, MO>, died on 14 Jun 1888 and was buried in Aunt Sis Long Cemetery (Moved To Roach Cem. When Dam Was Built). Their children were: 11 i. Sarah Jame Moulder (born on 15 Aug 1879 in Linn Creek, Camden Co., Missouri - died on 3 Feb 1968 in El Monte, Los Angles, CA) ii. Minnie Florence Moulder (born on 29 Nov 1884 in , Camden Co, MO - died on 9 May 1957 in , Camden Co, MO) iii. James Marshal Moulder (born on 6 Dec 1877 in Linn Creek, Camden Co., Missouri - died on 20 Feb 1969) iv. Living (born in 1909 -) v. Eliza Ann Moulder (born on 19 Jul 1887 in Linn Creek, Camden Co - died as an infant) vi. John Franklin Moulder (born on 14 Jun 1888 in Linn Creek, Camden Co - died as an infant) 23. Nancy Elizabeth Vance 1,2,3 was born on 27 Apr 1858 in <, Camden County, MO>, died on 14 Jun 1888 and was buried in Aunt Sis Long Cemetery (Moved To Roach Cem. When Dam Was Built). Ancestral File Number:3D6D-7D. Nancy married Thomas Hart Benton Moulder, son of Albin Franklin Moulder and Sallie Hart, on 17 Feb 1876 in , Camden County, MO. Thomas was born on 25 Jun 1855 in , Camden County, MO, died on 27 Jul 1928 in , Camden County, MO and was buried in Homestead Of Albin F Moulder. 46. John Vance 2. John married Hannah Rhodes. Their children were: 23 i. Nancy Elizabeth Vance (born on 27 Apr 1858 in <, Camden County, MO> - died on 14 Jun 1888 , buried in Aunt Sis Long Cemetery (Moved To Roach Cem. When Dam Was Built)) 47. Hannah Rhodes 2. Hannah married John Vance. Would appreciate any help on this, Thanks! Helen Rowe Alumni President La Quinta Alumni Association http://www.lqaa.org Message Board http://forums.delphi.com/LQAztecs/start My home page http://helenrowe.tripod.com

There used to be a book giving their linage. Check your library or on-line book sources.

Looking for ancestors of Ephriam Vance md to Elizabeth "Deliz" Vance she was born can 1735 in the Isle of Wight VA daughter Elizabeth Vance Smith was md to Joseph Hatfield she was the gggrandmother of Devil Anse Hatfield thans Ron

Does anyone have any info about Hugh Vance, b 1784 in Ireland or Penn. died Jan. 11, 1827 Fayette Cty., PA. He married Margaret Detrick ( Tedrick) who was from Switzerland. Their son Samuel Vance, b. 2-21-1816 in George Township, Fayette County, PA went to Wisconsin. Samuel married Lavina Johns. Thanks for any help. John Thomas Signup for your FREE Houston Astros Fan E-Mail account at http://www.astrosfan.net

To the Vance List, I gave you some incorrect information on My VANCES's. in my first e-mail message Sorry!! Thanks to Richard Pence, You now have correct information, SEE BELOW. with the correct Inf. Hope this help, Make a connection to My VANCE's or PENCE's Family? Thank you Richard, for all of this Information. Very much appreciated With Regard Iris ----- Original Message ----- From: Iris Mendel Miller <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:37 PM Subject: Re: PML Search Result matching 'Pence' OR 'PENCE' ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard A. Pence <[email protected]> To: Iris Mendel Miller <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 7:24 AM Subject: Re: PML Search Result matching 'Pence' OR 'PENCE' Iris: A copy of your message to the Vance mailing list has reached me and I have a few comments. First, from the census of Ward Twp, Randolph County, Indiana, 1850: Pence, Thomas 32 M Pump W'ker OH Pence, Elizabeth 26 F OH Pence, James 6 M OH Pence, Sarah 4 F OH Pence, Louisa 2 F OH Pence,William 1 M IN Vance, George 74 M Farmer PA Vance, Margaret 66 F PA Thomas Winters Pence and Elizabeth Vance were also in Randolph County in 1860, but the George and Margaret Vance were not, nor were any of the other Vances except Nancy (see below). George's age above places his date of birth as 1776. The Pences were in Tazewell, Illinois, before going to York County just before 1880. I know that some Vances went to York County (Melissa's cousin - _probably her cousin_ - Frank Vance and his wife, Mary, were witnesses to her marriage to Thomas Houston, for example). Thus it is possible that George and Margaret went there with them. But York, Nebraska, really would have been settled until after George would have been 100 years old - so my suspicion is that the George Vance who died in York County (if one did) would be a brother to Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Winters Pence. The other homesteaders would also be brothers or nephews of Elizabeth. FYI, here are the Vances living in Randolph County in 1850: Vance, Andrew State : IN County : Randolph Co. Location : White River Twp Year : 1850 Page # : 076 Vance, George State : IN County : Randolph Co. Location : Ward Twp Year : 1850 Page # : 123 Vance, Jackson State : IN County : Randolph Co. Location : Greens Fork Twp Year : 1850 Page # : 169 Vance, Jacob State : IN County : Randolph Co. Location : Jackson Twp Year : 1850 Page # : 113 Vance, Jacob State : IN County : Randolph Co. Location : White River Twp Year : 1850 Page # : 076 Vance, John State : IN County : Randolph Co. Location : Green Twp Year : 1850 Page # : 141 Vance, Nancy State : IN County : Randolph Co. Location : Greens Fork Twp Year : 1850 Page # : 150 Vance, William State : IN County : Randolph Co. Location : Ward Twp Year : 1850 Page # : 126 Here are the Vance families for York County, Nebraska, 1880: Census Place: Town 9, York, Nebraska Source: FHL Film 1254757 National Archives Film T9-0757 Page 494A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace George VANCE Self M M W 59 OH Occ: Farmer Fa: PA Mo: PA Sophia VANCE Wife F M W 54 OH Occ: K. House Fa: PA Mo: VA Frank VANCE Son M S W 27 OH Occ: Farming Fa: OH Mo: OH Census Place: Town 9, York, Nebraska Source: FHL Film 1254757 National Archives Film T9-0757 Page 496B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace George VANCE Self M M W 30 OH Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: OH Martha VAMCE Wife F M W 25 IN Occ: K. House Fa: VA Mo: NY William VANCE Son M S W 5 NE Fa: OH Mo: IN Sophie VANCE Dau F S W 3 NE Fa: OH Mo: IN Susan VANCE Dau F S W 7M NE Fa: OH Mo: IN Census Place: Town 9, York, Nebraska Here are the Pences, York County, NE, 1880: Census Place: Town 10, York, Nebraska Source: FHL Film 1254757 National Archives Film T9-0757 Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Thomas PENCE Self M M W 63 OH Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: VA Elizabeth PENCE Wife F M W 55 OH Occ: Keeping House Fa: PA Mo: PA William C. PENCE Son M S W 24 IN Occ: Farmer Fa: OH Mo: OH Mallissa E. PENCE Dau F S W 22 IN Fa: OH Mo: OH George D. PENCE Son M S W 20 IN Occ: At School Fa: OH Mo: OH Edward F. PENCE Son M S W 18 IN Occ: At School Fa: OH Mo: OH Margret L. PENCE Dau F S W 16 IN Occ: At School Fa: OH Mo: OH Mary E. PENCE Dau F S W 14 IL Occ: At School Fa: OH Mo: OH Census Place: Town 11, York, Nebraska Source: FHL Film 1254757 National Archives Film T9-0757 Page 435D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Henry B. SEELY Self M M W 45 NY Occ: Carpenter Fa: CAN Mo: NY Phoebe SEELY Wife F M W 43 MA Occ: Keeping House Fa: MA Mo: MA Auther SEELY Son M S W 19 IL Occ: Clerk In Grocery Fa: NY Mo: MA William H. GREEN Other M S W 25 IL Occ: Labor Fa: OH Mo: OH Melisse PENCE Other F S W 22 IN Occ: Servant Fa: OH Mo: OH (it appears that Melissa was enumerated twice) Census Place: Town 10, York, Nebraska Source: FHL Film 1254757 National Archives Film T9-0757 Page 468C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Thomas H. PENCE Self M M W 26 IN Occ: Farmer Fa: OH Mo: OH Clara PENCE Wife F M W 21 IN Occ: Keeping House Fa: OH Mo: OH Where did you find the list of York County homesteaders? Is a description of the land given (section, range, township)? What date? If so, you can obtain a copy of the case file from the National Archives. For homestead lands, these case files usually contain quite a bit of family information. BTW, the name is, I believe, Thomas WinterS - as he likely was named for a well-known and admired minister in the area of Ohio were Thomas was born. The minister was Thomas Winters and there is quite a bit written on him . Find York Historical on the web. They are good about responding to questions. And remember, in the Bible for one of the childreno Thomas and Elizabeth, there is a note that her family name was probably originally Wentz. As Bentz become Pence, so does Wentz become Vance. Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iris Mendel Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: PML Search Result matching 'Pence' OR 'PENCE' ==================================================== A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ ==================================================== I found, YORK COUNTY NEBRASKA HOMESTEADERS, List. on that list I found some possible related VANCES? VANCE, Ervin VANCE, George F. VANCE, George VANCE, William W. George and Margaret VANCE's daughter, My GGreat-grandmother ELIZABETH VANCE born April 22, 1823 in Ohio, and died Jan 20, 1892 in York CO.NE. My PENCE'S are from Rockingham VA. ELIZABETH VANCE Married THOMAS WINTERS PENCE April 28, 1842 in Randolph County IN. Thomas and Elizabeth (Vance) Pence's daughter, MELISSA PENCE is My Great-grandmother. I need to go to York County NE. to find the place of Burial, Dates,Obituaries, Probates and Ect.? Can Anyone make a connection with any of these names? Your help with the Vance's will be greatly appreciated, And additional information always welcome on the PENCE's (Richard Pence Has given me a great deal if information,on our lineage, Augusta/Rockingham County Pence Family, JACOB PENCE/BENTZ,1710, Ger, WILLIAM PENCE, 1745 Lancaster CO. PA.?, ADAM PENCE, 1779 Rockingham VA., THOMAS WINTERS PENCE, 1817 OH. My Uncle Clarence (who in his 80's) said they spoke German? Thanks a for any help with these families Iris Mendell Miller

My ggrandparents were George Washington Vance (1853-1915) and Louisia Gee, Pike Co OH. George parents were Perry M Vance (1821-1882) and Margaret Ann Weese, Gallia Co and Jackson Co OH. His father was Henry Vance (1780-1847) and unkown. Some of the information I have is confusing and I am wondering if Henry was actually Perry's grandfather. Doris(Havens)McGlone On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 05:02:06 -0600 [email protected] writes:

VANCE/PENCE Hi List I have very little information on my Vance's, But I will give you, what little I have on my GGreatgreatgrandParents, GEORGE (W?) VANCE Born in Pennsylvania in about 1779 died in York County, Nebraska He May have been in Randolph County Indiana? ( I think They were??) His wife, GGGGrandmother, MARGARET (_?_) born in PA. about 1784, They were on the 1850 York CO NE. living in the household of son-inlaw THOMAS WINTER PENCE . I found, YORK COUNTY NEBRASKA HOMESTEADERS, List. on that list I found some possible related VANCES? VANCE, Ervin VANCE, George F. VANCE, George VANCE, William W. George and Margaret VANCE's daughter, My GGreat-grandmother ELIZABETH VANCE born April 22, 1823 in Ohio, and died January 20, 1892 in York CO.NE. My PENCE'S are from Rockingham VA. ELIZABETH VANCE Married THOMAS WINTER PENCE April 28, 1842 in Randolph County IN. Thomas and Elizabeth (Vance) Pence's daughter, MELISSA PENCE is My Great-grandmother. I need to go to York County NE. to find the place of Burial, Dates,Obituaries, Probates and Ect.? Can Anyone make a connection with any of these names? Your help with the Vance's will be greatly appreciated, And additional information always welcome on the PENCE's (Richard Pence Has given me a great deal if information, on our lineage, Augusta/Rockingham County Pence Family, JACOB PENCE/BENTZ,1710, Ger, WILLIAM PENCE,1745 Lancaster CO. PA.?, ADAM PENCE, 1779 Rockingham VA., THOMAS WINTER PENCE, 1817 OH. My Uncle Clarence (who in his 80's) said they spoke German?. Thanks a for any help with these families Iris Mendell Miller

The Dearborn County, Indiana, Historical Society is looking for living descendants of Samuel C Vance (1770-1830), who married Mary Lawrence, and who founded Lawrenceburg, Indiana. The Society is located in the house he built in 1818, and it is on the National Register of Historic Places. We are trying to complete the story of his family. Chris McHenry, secretary

Would anyone on the list happen to know anything regarding the ancestry of one Rachel VANCE who married a James Hamilton in Augusta Co. VA in 1786? If so, please contact me. Regards, Larry D. Hamilton Coats

I have no books on the Vance family. I do not know about Vida Velton Vance's book. Could you please tell me the name of her book? I sent for and have a copy of John Vance's will - WB#1, p. 8. where in he names his children. I also have a copy of the 1832 will of Alexander Vance - Findley Twp., Allegheny Co., Pa. He mentions only an uncle, 2 brothers and a sister; and his father was mentioned but not named. Col. William Crawford married John Vance's sister. There were several Col. William Crawfords and this one is the famous one who was burned at the stake. If you check the children of John Vance (d. 1760) you will find that he had a son John (m. Margaret White), as well as a son Alexander; and other children. Since Alexander is not a name that is used in my line, I did not research Alexander's family except to know that he had a dau. Jane who married her cousin David. A lot of info comes from the VFA. Are you a member? Sorry I could not address you properly but you did not give your name. Clare ============ On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:44:29 EDT [email protected] writes: > In a message dated 08/13/2001 4:03:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << Children of John Vance (b. Va. d.1778) and Margaret (White) > John went to Fayette Co., Pa. in 1766 in the company with Col. > William > Crawford, his brother-in-law. John's Will is Yohogania Co., Va. > (Later > Washington Co., Pa.) WB#1, p. 8. >> > > > Did you get this information from Vida Velton Vance's book? > > My John Vance was supposed to be the son of Alexander Vance. > Alexander left VA and moved to Fayette Co., PA around 1769 One of > his sons, > my ancestor, was born around 1746 and was living in Pendleton > County, VA (now > WV) by 1780 when his son Robert was born. John died 8 Feb. 1827 and > his > buried in the Harman Hills of Pendleton County, WV. > > In her pension application his wife Nancy states that was married to > John by > Col. Wm. Crawford, magistrate of the county for which she resided > about 40 > miles from Fort Pitt in October 1773. I have not gone to > personally check > all of the papers in John's pension file. Mary Harter, who was a > noted > researcher in WV, thought that possibly there were papers of two > John Vances > in the same pension files. > > Comments???? > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

I've been watching this subject for a while and might as well add a little something now....for what it's worth. My Marcena (aka Marsina & Marcella) Vance was born in what is now WV in about 1827. She said that she had an Aunt Polly, her father's sister. Polly is a nickname for Mary. Unfortunately I don't know Marcena's father's name. Marcena married widower Alexander Reeves in Sangamon Co., IL in 1846...too soon to be found on a census with her parents. Her children were named Rebecca, Harriet Josephine, James, Vashti, Barbara, Alexander, Thomas A. (dy), John H., Abraham L., Daisy, Lorena M., and Susie. It could be that some of her family's names could have already been used on her husband's first 12 children. Marcena's father was a "river-boat" captain and the family had lived in OH for a while. I don't know how Marcena happened to make it to IL. Also.....there was a Mary "Polly" Vance daughter of William Vance and Barbara Grider of Lancaster Co., PA, Rockingham,VA and Garrard KY. This William was the son of a Wentz from Heidelberg. This Polly married Eli Paine Hardin 1820 in KY. Has anyone out there heard of my Marcena, et al? Carole

In a message dated 08/13/2001 4:03:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Children of John Vance (b. Va. d.1778) and Margaret (White) John went to Fayette Co., Pa. in 1766 in the company with Col. William Crawford, his brother-in-law. John's Will is Yohogania Co., Va. (Later Washington Co., Pa.) WB#1, p. 8. >> Did you get this information from Vida Velton Vance's book? My John Vance was supposed to be the son of Alexander Vance. Alexander left VA and moved to Fayette Co., PA around 1769 One of his sons, my ancestor, was born around 1746 and was living in Pendleton County, VA (now WV) by 1780 when his son Robert was born. John died 8 Feb. 1827 and his buried in the Harman Hills of Pendleton County, WV. In her pension application his wife Nancy states that was married to John by Col. Wm. Crawford, magistrate of the county for which she resided about 40 miles from Fort Pitt in October 1773. I have not gone to personally check all of the papers in John's pension file. Mary Harter, who was a noted researcher in WV, thought that possibly there were papers of two John Vances in the same pension files. Comments????

In a message dated 8/12/01 5:47:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I have a William Vance b 1746 in Lancaster,Co, PA. His grandfather was Wentz. Do we contact? >> Hi Don, I don't think we connect---the Wentz line I have followed is from the Dover Twp., York Co., area, beginning 1760's. The other various Wentz lines I've gathered info. on are mostly from Adams and York Co. areas. I recall seeing various records for Vance's and Wentz' in Lancaster Co. I also seem to remember that one of the desc. of Peter Wentz (of Worcester Twp., Montgomery Co.) being in Lancaster. It's very frustrating and difficult at times to try and decipher which were actually Vance's and those who are Wentz', with their name being written in various records as Vance. Best Wishes, Cathy

Hi Cathy, I have a William Vance b 1746 in Lancaster,Co, PA. His grandfather was Wentz. Do we contact? Don Contact me at: [email protected] | In a message dated 8/12/01 3:55:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] | writes: | | << I'm looking for a Vance family in Pa. who would have had a dau. | > named | > > MARY who was b. ca 1810. I have tried many ways to find this lady | > so | > > maybe checking all the Mary's born in Pa. in that time span will | > give me | > > a clue. >> | | Hi, | | I realize it may be a long shot, but you could also try WENTZ/WANTZ. I have | a few Wentz lines originating in PA pre-1800 who are known today as "Vance". | | I've done a lot of research in the York/Adams Co., PA areas with the Wentz' | and will keep your Mary Vance b. c1810 in my records just incase. | | Good luck - | | Cathy

In a message dated 8/12/01 3:55:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I'm looking for a Vance family in Pa. who would have had a dau. > named > > MARY who was b. ca 1810. I have tried many ways to find this lady > so > > maybe checking all the Mary's born in Pa. in that time span will > give me > > a clue. >> Hi, I realize it may be a long shot, but you could also try WENTZ/WANTZ. I have a few Wentz lines originating in PA pre-1800 who are known today as "Vance". I've done a lot of research in the York/Adams Co., PA areas with the Wentz' and will keep your Mary Vance b. c1810 in my records just incase. Good luck - Cathy

Kelly, Thanks so very much for responding. Did your Sarah Vance m. a Neal (etc.) or was your Sarah a Neal (etc.) I have a lot of Vance info and a lot of Neal (various spellings) info. I might be able to help you if you give me some more info. Where and when? My Neal is William H. Neal b. 1847 (according to his tombstone and death certificate) and 1851 according to the census. His mother was Mary Neel (1850 & 1870 census - Niel according to 1860 census). Mary (Vance) according to his death certificate. They were all b. in Pa. according to the census. Clare ============= On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:18:00 -0400 Kelly <[email protected]> writes: > I'm glad to see i am not the only one that has a Neil, Neale, Neel, > Neill, > Neal, etc. I have a Sarah and for the life of me i cannot find the > correct > spelling on her last name. > > Kelly > > [email protected] wrote: > > > I'm looking for a Vance family in Pa. who would have had a dau. > named > > MARY who was b. ca 1810. I have tried many ways to find this lady > so > > maybe checking all the Mary's born in Pa. in that time span will > give me > > a clue. > > > > My Mary married a Neil, Neale, Neel, Neill, Neal, etc. > > > > If you know of a Mary but don't know whom she married, please let > me know > > and I will work on it. > > > > I have belonged to the VFA for 15 years and still haven't come up > with > > info on my Mary Vance. > > > > Thanks so very much. > > > > Clare Pebworth > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > >

Nancy, Thanks so very much for responding. Could your Mary have married 2nd: ca 1838-39 to a Mr. Neal (various spellings) Clare ================ On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:59:09 -0500 "Nancy A. McDonald" <[email protected]> writes: > I have a Mary, born to James and Abigail Vance in York Co., PA in > 1811. But > she married (19 Jan 1832) Wm. Henderson, Jr. > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 8:17 AM > Subject: Mary Vance b. Pa. ca 1810 > > > > I'm looking for a Vance family in Pa. who would have had a dau. > named > > MARY who was b. ca 1810. I have tried many ways to find this lady > so > > maybe checking all the Mary's born in Pa. in that time span will > give me > > a clue. > > > > My Mary married a Neil, Neale, Neel, Neill, Neal, etc. > > > > If you know of a Mary but don't know whom she married, please let > me know > > and I will work on it. > > > > I have belonged to the VFA for 15 years and still haven't come up > with > > info on my Mary Vance. > > > > Thanks so very much. > > > > Clare Pebworth > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > >

Iris, I think this is your family. (Seems I can help everyone else except myself ! ! !) Cross your fingers and toes that this is it. Thank heaven it's a George and not William, James, or John which are very common names. I have a George W. Vance, Child of Moses Vance and Elizabeth (Strickler); Grandchild of John Vance (d. 1778) and Margaret (White); G-Grandchild of John Vance (who d. 1760, Frederick Co., Va.) George W. Vance was b. Jan. 12, 1815; m. Lydia Wilson and they settled in Illinois. Moses was b. May 23, 1773; d. June 27, 1829 at 56 yrs. Bur: Private Cemetery: Nathaniel King Farm, former the Wade Farm and originally known as the Moses Vance Farm. Located in Upper Tyrone Twp., Fayette Co., Pa. Elizabeth Strickler was b. 1773; d. Sept. 8, 1849 at 56 yrs. She was the dau. of Jacob Strickler and Elizabeth (__?__). The cemetery was destroyed by the Pittsburgh- W. Va Railroad Co. when they constructed their branch through this section ca 1935. There are only 2 stones remaining, and they are large flat table stones in excellent condition, with inscriptions that are very legible. They are Elizabeth Vance, consort of Moses Vance and Moses Vance. Children of Moses Vance and Elizabeth (Strickler) 1) John Vance (1797-1886); m. Mary Strickler. After Mary d., John moved to Adams Co., Ill. John had a son Moses (1824-1913) who was one of the first settlers in Adams Co., Ill. 2) Jacob Vance (1798-1882/3); d. Fayette Co., Pa.; m. Charlotte Hardy 3) Samuel Vance (1800-1883) m. Nancy Clare 4) Frances Vance (1802-?) m. Torrence ??? 5) William Vance b. 1804 - Lived in Connellsville, Pa. 6) Crawford Vance b.1806 - m. Susan Clayton 7) Margaret Vance b. 1808 8) Alfred Vance b. 1810; m. Margaret ??? 9) Eliza Vance b. 1812/13 10) George W. Vance b. 1815; m. Lydia Wilson settled in Illinois. Children of John Vance (b. Va. d.1778) and Margaret (White) John went to Fayette Co., Pa. in 1766 in the company with Col. William Crawford, his brother-in-law. John's Will is Yohogania Co., Va. (Later Washington Co., Pa.) WB#1, p. 8. 1) David Vance b. ca 1755; m. Jane Vance (Cousin) dau. of Alexander Vance. NOTE: I do not have their children (maybe my Mary is there) 2) William Vance b. 1758 3) Elizabeth Vance b. 1762 4) Jane Vance b. ca 1765; m. Capt. Benjamin Whalley 5) Mary or Maria Vance b. ca 1768 6) Moses Vance (1773-1829); m. Elizabeth Strickler I hope something in this mess is of help to you. PLEASE keep looking for my Mary Vance b. ca 1810, Pa.; who married ca 1839 a Mr. Neal (Various spellings). Clare Pebworth ======== On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:12:40 -0500 "Iris Mendel Miller" <[email protected]> writes: > Hi Clare, > I don't Know if We could have a connection , But I will give you, > what little information, I have on My GGreatgreatgrandParents, > George W.(?) Vance, Born in Pennsylvania in about 1779 died in > York > County, Nebraska > He May have been in Randolph County Indiana? ( I think They > were?) > ( My George Would have been 31 yr's old When your Mary was born?) > > He was married to my GGGGrandmother, Margaret Unknown born in PA. > about > 1784, > ( My Margaret would have been 26 when your Mary was born?) > Their Daughter, > My GGreat-grandmother Elizabeth Vance born April 22, 1823 in Ohio, > and died > January 20, 1892 in York CO.NE. > (I need to go to York CO. NE. to Find Date of death's and place of > burials., and Obituaries and what ever else I can find?) > > Elizabeth Vance Married Thomas Winter Pence April 28, 1842 in > Randolph > County IN. > > Thomas and Elizabeth (Vance) Pence's daughter, Melissa Pence is My > Great-grandmother. > My Uncle Clarence (who in his 80's) said they spoke German?. > Would like to keep in touch if we are able to connect your Vance to > mine? > > Here the York County Nebraska website. Has some inf. and they keep > adding. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~neyork/internet.html > > I thought I had a web site in Indiana for marriages, if I do I can't > find it > Right now. > Let me know if any of this might fit? > > Iris Mendell Miller > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 8:17 AM > Subject: Mary Vance b. Pa. ca 1810 > > > > I'm looking for a Vance family in Pa. who would have had a dau. > named > > MARY who was b. ca 1810. I have tried many ways to find this lady > so > > maybe checking all the Mary's born in Pa. in that time span will > give me > > a clue. > > > > My Mary married a Neil, Neale, Neel, Neill, Neal, etc. > > > > If you know of a Mary but don't know whom she married, please let > me know > > and I will work on it. > > > > I have belonged to the VFA for 15 years and still haven't come up > with > > info on my Mary Vance. > > > > Thanks so very much. > > > > Clare Pebworth > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > >

I'm looking for a Vance family in Pa. who would have had a dau. named MARY who was b. ca 1810. I have tried many ways to find this lady so maybe checking all the Mary's born in Pa. in that time span will give me a clue. My Mary married a Neil, Neale, Neel, Neill, Neal, etc. If you know of a Mary but don't know whom she married, please let me know and I will work on it. I have belonged to the VFA for 15 years and still haven't come up with info on my Mary Vance. Thanks so very much. Clare Pebworth