>From Chapter 1 of Alexander Lecky's 1905 book, "The Laggan and its Presbyterianism we find the following description of the district know as the LAGGAN: "On looking at a map of the County Donegal, it will be seen that the north-eastern part of the county, which is the most northerly part of Ireland, is a peninsula washed on the eastern side by the waters of Lough Foyle and on the western by Lough Swilly. This is Inishowen, a mountainous and, to a large extent, a barren country. Immediately to the south of it is a fertile and comparatively flat country, lying between the river Foyle and the upper reaches of Lough Swilly, and extending in one direction from the City of Derry to Stranorlar, and in another from Lifford to Letterkenny. This is the district which in by-gone times was known under the name of THE LAGGAN, and formed the most productive and desireable portion of the ancient territory of Tyrconnell..." This is also where many of my ancestors and yours came from; Defenders of Derry during the great siege, the defining moment in Ulster Protestant history. To an Ulsterman the Siege of Londonderry is what the War Between the States is to an American. Shortly after this event great waves of Derrymen left for America, first settling in Pennsylvania and then moving down the Valley of Virginia and into the Carolinas. This genealogical connection between the families of those who fought at Derry and those who settled in Augusta/Rockbridge counties Virgina and the Settlement of the Northwest Carolina Frontier (Carolina Cradle by Ramsey) eventually reaches a climax on a little mountain in North Carolina on October 7, 1780. This is the area of history that myself and fellow researcher John Giocoletti from Florida have always wanted to explore in detail. This June we will be travelling to Derry and Belfast for some extended research into the family histories of those names that appear both in the records of the Laggan and at King's Mountain. Lecky's two books, "The Laggan and its Presbyterianism," and "In the Days of the Laggan Presbytery," published in 1905 and 1908 Belfast, Davidson & McCormack, North Gate Works, are a must for anyone wanting to discover their Ulster roots. The books real value for the genealogist is in the Appendix which is divided into several parts, the most important being the following: "The following are the names of men who attended the meetings of the Laggan Presbytery between the years 1672 and 1700, as ruling elders or as commissioners, together with the names of the congregations which they represented. They were doubtless the leading men in the districts in which they lived..." These lists are by Parish and I will give a couple of examples: Taboyn: Matthew Lindsay, John Aikine, Alexander Houston, Robert Cowan, Archibald Alexander, Robert Scott, Wm. Mackie, Wm. Bell, Robert M'Clellan, Richard Armstrong, Richard Moore, John Kilgore, Wm. Inglis, John Gay, John Harvey, David Paterson, George Brown, Robert Moore, James Marshall, John Graham Raphoe: Joseph Henderson, Edward Hervies, William Mills, Michael Henderson, Robert Anderson, Patrick Bell, Robert Dick, Alexander Stuart, William Ramsay, James Laird, Robert Walker, John M'Clure, Robert Gray, John Sproul Londonderry: John Craig, William Cunningham, John Campsie, William Rodger, James Fisher, Horace Kennedy, James Wilson, William Macky, James Lennox, William Smith, John Cowan, Alexander Lecky, William Davidsson, James Wallace, George Henderson, others In addition to the ruling elders there is a list of people from the Hearth Money rolls of 1665 by Parish and TOWNLAND which places a person in an area sometimes as small as a few acres. These lists are important when comparing names with the early landowners of Augusta county or the Baptismal records of the the Rev. Craig at Tinkling Spring Presbyterian Church or the early settlers of the Yadkin settlement in Rowan county, North Carolina. I will be willing to furnish copies of these two books for a limited time to researchers who want to explore their Ulster genealogy. Many of you purchased copies of Professor Hagy's thesis, "Castle's Woods; Frontier Virginia Settlement" and I have received numerous e-mails about the quality of that document. I believe these two books by Lecky are superior in the information contained and if you would like a copy please contact me privately at [email protected] for the details. Any information John and I discover specific to your surname will be posted on the appropriate list after our return from Ireland. I will provide a list of surnames that have "made the cut" so far, the requirements being that the family is found in Derry and also found at King's Mountain. Any suggestions for additional names will be considered as long as the request is substantiated with a reasonable amount of documentation. Regards, Robert Cowan 525 Harrogate Rd. Matthews, North Carolina 28105 Names on the list so far: Alexander, Anderson, Bell, Black, Blair, Brown, Buchanan, Campbell, Cowan, Craig, Cunningham, Denniston, Edmondson, Finley, Fleming, Gillespie, Graham, Hamilton, Houston, Irvin, Kilgore, King, Knox, Lindsay, McClure, Maxwell, Moffatt, Montgomery, Moore, Ramsay, Robinson, Russell, Scott, Steele, Stewart/Stuart, Thompson, Walker, Weir, Young spellings may vary John and I will stay in touch with the various lists as best we can. It will not be possible to remain of all the surname lists all the time for obvious reasons. Feel free to contact me at [email protected] if you have any suggestions or questions. This may make a nice book one day.

I sure hope someone can help me. I am looking for the Vance family and I think they are from around Washington County Tennessee. I am afraid I do not have very much information except Mary Elizabeth Vance was born in or around Washington TN on February 1856 and her parents wer James Vance and Phebe Johnson. It is said that she also went by the name of Lizzie and they were American Indian. She married Joseph Dove either in TN or KY. Together they had at least 3 children Morning Dove (Martha J. Dove) born Oct. 30, 1872, George A. Dove, born November 1875, and Lillie Dove born about 1880. from what I can gather, Joseph probably died around 1880 at which time Mary moved herself and her children to Fayette County Indiana. Joseph was not listed in any record after 1880. From Fayette County Indian Mary moved atleast 2 of her children (Morning Dove and George) to Rush county Indiana. Mary married at least 2 more times to a man name Pernell and then to a Daniel Miller. I believe she died in Wayne County Indiana, but can find no record. It seems that all 3 of Mary's husbands were quite a bit older than she was. Can someone help me on this Vance or Dove line in Tennessee? Thank you so much! Darlene

Looking for info on William H. Vance : Eliza Gill b. circa 1823 in Ga , married William H. Vance about 1842. In the 1850 US Census they are living in Randolph Co. Al. By 1850, Eliza and William H. Vance had four children; Samantha b. 1843 : James H. b. 1846: William H. Vance b. 1848. More children in the 1850s Eliza Savannah b. 1852: Peter 1957: and Ben Hill Vance in 1861, Eliza husband, William H. Vance was killed the Civil War. In 1880 Eliza Vance is living in Bacon Level, Randolph Co. Harold

Seeking parents and siblings of Joanna VANCE b. c 1795-1800 in NC - SC - TN. m. David WILLIAMS in Smith Co, TN in 1816... Settled near or in City of Carthage,TN.. Thanks Skip

Seeking parents and siblings of Joanna VANCE b. c 1795-1800 ..eiher NC KY TN... :-) ????? m. David WILLIAMS 1816 .. believed in Smith Co., TN Family lived in or around Carthage, TN from abt 1816 -1826. Three sons born in TN... Joseph T., John W. and Martin J. Later migrated to Franklin Co, ILLINOIS Also need info on John and T.M. VANCE (brothers) and a Samuel VANCE ... ALL living in Smith Co, TN in 1820. Any help appreciated....

Pat Kennedy here; In the records of Samuel VANCE (1726-1789) Surry Co, NC md: Alice (possible Alice Carr/Kerr/Karr) In the family line for generation after generation, Vance, Endsley, Lowry etc etc.........the name of Aley, Aley, Ailey, Allie, or Alley Carr, Allie Carr, etc etc...is used over and over in the naming of females in the families. ============================================= I came across a record: Elizabeth VANCE b: ca 1735 Isle of Wright county, VA d: dec 1778 Washington or Russell Co, VA. She is the dau: Ephraim VANCE. She md: ------unknown ALLEY. She md: Joseph Hatfield Sr 1760. ======= pak: One would then think if she were born in the year of 1735 and md: second in 1760 to Joseph Hatfield. She most likely had her children by ------unknown Alley. Could this be where the name Allie/Aly/Alley/etc....comes from?? ============================================== Never thinking of the name of Alley, being a surname. I now find it on many of the genealogy sites as a surname. Would any of you researching this line......have any records to make a ALLEY connection to the VANCE.....CARR/KERR/KARR......ENDSLEY......LAWRY....lines. Please let me know if you find any info....

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Hello Is there any desendants of Bradley Vance and Julia Ann Brubaker here???Bradley was the son of James Vance and Mary Ennis Vance. Also does anyone have any Ennis info??? Thanks Rebecca Snyder

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Sorry! Fingers aren’t working well today…..I am looking for information on Norba Vance b 1906 in Arkansas (?) and died Jan 1972. Please contact me if you have information and/or this is your line. Parents were Charles and Stella Vance. Thanks, Wanda

I am looking for relatives/information of Nobra Vance born 1906 and died Jan 1972. Parents were Charles and Stella Vance. Please contact me if you have information regarding this line. Thank you, Wanda Smith

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I am looking for information on the following family: Charles was born 1886 in AR married Stella Luntsford (Lunsford). She was born 1886 to Reuben and Maggie Luntsford. According to the 1910 census of Sugar Loaf Twp, Boone County, AR they had the following children: Paul P age 5, Norby? F. age 2 or 3, Ruby Ann age 9 months and grandmother Lucy An_ age 72. Stella died in Norman, Ok in 1980. If this is your line, please contact me. I am most interested in getting more information to fill in the blanks. My interest in the family is through Stella. Her father was my 2nd Ggrand Uncle. Thank you, Wanda Luntsford Smith

I would like to reach any descendants of Houston Vance, born December 29, 1895 in the vicinity of Perry County, Arkansas. He served in World War I. Parents were Samuel Vance and Mary Jane Davis. Janiece Keener [email protected]

Hello I am looking for the Will of Joseph Vance who died in Febuary 1838 and Nancy Bradley Vance who died in March 1857.I would like any info on their wills or Obits.If that is possible.They both died in ILL. Nancy in Morgan County and Joseph in McDon. IL. I would appreciate your help. Rebecca Snyder

Hello I am looking for info on Bradley Vance who married Julia Ann Brubaker.Could someone please give me the names of their children and any info on them.I would appreciate it.Bradley died in 1907 and Julia in 1901 in Warren County.I am somewhat confused though as too who their childen were.An 1860 census lists 2 children names Charles and Marion.Charles was 2 I believe and Marion only a few months or so.This was in Mahaska County,IA.I believe this was in Harrison Township. Any help would be appreciated ! ! ! Thanks Rebecca Snyder

I don't have that disk, but here is the URL where you can go and it has the names and addresses of all the submitters so that you can contact them personally. http://www.inlink.com/~nomi/wftlist/index.html Hope this helps, Norm Vance -- Trail Tree Village Coldwater, MI 49036 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ICQ 1705347 ALHN, AHGP, MIGenWeb SPEBSQSA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching: VANCE-STEELE-BLANCHARD-FERRIS-ADAMS TERPENING-DUNTON-DONBROCK-PAUL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NOTE: All my Family Trees are NOW SEARCHABLE in my homepage. Homepage URL: http://members.tripod.com/~nvance/ My 5 MI Counties Index: MI A.L.H.N. & MIGenWeb Project Pages http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5666/index.html ******************************************************************** NOTICE: This email message is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure. It is intended for use only by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be forwarded, in whole or in part, via any method, without my permission. This mail is copyrighted as of the above date and time of my transmission. Thank you.

Does anyone out there have World Family Tree Volume 5, Tree 186 that they could look up my gg grandmother, THERNUITHIS JANE VANCE who married SAMUEL HAYS. I have info on their children, etc. but have NO info on her, her family, where she came from, etc. If anyone has this and could look this up for me to see if it provide any more VANCE information, I would be most grateful. Thanks for the help! Valerie

Looking for TERMUTHIS VANCE born about 1841 in PA. Married in KS (probably Pottawatomie Co) to SAMUEL HAYS about 1860 and raised family in Pottawatomie Co and Marshall Co. KS. Also does anyone know what kind of a name Termuthis is? Never heard it before. Valerie

Jan, This Missouri Vance family is familiar to me. My great grandfather was a son of William. He was William David Vance born in 1853. He's buried along with his wife, Margaret Elizabeth in Granby, Missouri. There will be a reunion of the descendants of William David Vance in Granby on Sept. 9. Would love to hear from you. Brenda Vance Russell Vance, Ferguson