Tunis and Jane (Weir) Van Arsdale's lineage is described in James Riker's "Evacuation Day 1783", which concerns his father-in-law (I believe) John Van Arsdale, Tunis' younger brother. These men are descended from Jan Simonsz van Aersdalen. I "think" the Dutchess and Orange County Vans are separate lines. The 1800 Census for Dutchess County shows a "Dirck Van Asdale" who is over 45, i.e. born before 1755. At home are 1 boy born between 1790-1800 and 2 boys born between 1774-1784, one of which is very likely your Derrick. This "Dirck" must be the same as the one who appears on the 1790 Census listing him as living in Fishkill Town, Dutchess County. The 1790 Census was in the last issue of The Vanguard; the 1800 Census will be in the next. The general location, the approximate age, and the name "Dirck" suggest to me that "Dirck" is one of the lost sons of Dirck Cornelisz van Aersdalen (c.1694-after 1752). The elder Dirck and his second wife Gysbertje de Grauw baptized a son Gerrit in Albany in 1752, having moved to/near Albany from the New Brunswick, NJ area. The elder Dirck was a son of Cornelis Simonsz van Aersdalen, Jan Simonsz' brother. I don't have primary record proof but maybe you can work from this. Good luck. Charles R. Vanorsdale ---------- > From: HorseladyK@aol.com > To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VanArsdale-L] (VanArsdale-L)Tunis Vanarsdal > Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:38 AM > > Thank you for the info on Tunis&Jane. I do have that date and some other > information on their family from other researchers. My problem is trying to > connect my Derrick VanNosdall 1777-1853(bur.Middlebush Cemetery,DutchessCoNY) > who married Elizabeth Rynders in 1799 to Tunis and Jane. Derrick also has a > brother Aaron1788-1854 who married Elizabeth Appleby and is buried in the > same cemetery. The historian in Montgomery, Orange Co. NY thinks Derrick and > Aaron and possibly a son James, are Tunis and Jane's children who left Orange > Co. and settled in Dutchess Co. I can find no wills or church records to > substantiate the relationship. All of Tunis's other children have baptism > records at the GoodWill Presby Church in Orange Co. The earliest record > pertaining to Derrick in Dutchess Co. NY is the 1821 Grantor Index #20 p2401 > that lists Derick & Eliz. VanNosdall. Deed from Joseph I Vail, Verplank Rd. > Town of Fishkill. Any information to help solve this mystery will be > appreciated. > Kay (VanNosdall) Mackey > Dutchess Co. NY > > ______________________________