I have a picture talken of my great-great grandfather and g-g-grandmother, Thomas Jefferson VanArsdale and Mary Helen Nooe VanArsdale and their 13 children, taken in the late 1880's. This copy was given to me by a cousin, but if you are interested I will contact him to be sure that it would be all right. Since I felt that the subscription to the newsletter was a little expensive, I am not a subscriber anymore, but I'll be glad to share. I have some other individual portraits, also. Donna ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.