Barb, I briefly touched with Colleen a few years ago - it seemed we were of the same line. I haven't talked to her since and we didn't exchange anything. Sure, send me the notes - even if I don't know the answers right now, all the information I can gather will help some day, I'm sure. On some of these lines it just takes years and years of searching. The other night I found some information I'd looked for for about 10 years - not on the Sunderlands or Vans, but on my Serine families - some kind soul out in CA posted it - she had the Bible and everything. That's about the last place I expected to find it, because the line ended in Iowa. We had a librarian in Dayton connected with the Dayton and Montgomery Co. library who published information on the Sunderlands, that information taken from Peter Sunderland's Bible which once was owned by May Kemp. I guess May Kemp was also connected with the library. I traced May Kemp but my letter was returned as she was deceased. This was about 15 years ago. I've found no trace of the Bible since. The published information said that there were two Jennifer Sunderlands, one married Conrad Huffman, the other married Lucas VanAusdal, and they were cousins. I have the 1830 census, I think it is, and the curious thing is that there are children that could not have been of their marriage. However, they lived next to his brother Richard, and they could have been Richard's children, or they could have been children of some other relative - the way families took in children of other families, they could have been almost anyone's children. So, yes, please send me the notes, just so I'll have a reference of the direction everyone is going on this. Thanks, Barb. Sasha