Judy, Here is the 1810 census info for David & Simon in Warrington Township, York County, PA, National Archives 252, roll 57. David Vanasdal (HOH), line 25, page 1081 Three white males under 10, 1 white male 10 thru 15, one white male 26 thru 44, one white female under 10, one white female 10 thru 15 and one white female 26 thru 44 Simon Vanasdal (HOH), line 49, page 1082 One white male under 10, one white male 16 thru 25 and one white female 16 thru 25 I'm not convinced this Simon is the one you are seeking. If Simon, son of Simon and Neeltje, was baptised in 1778, he would have been about 32 years old in 1810. The Simon from this census is listed as between 16 and 25, leading me to think they might not be the same person. Seems like an awfully large discrepancy in ages. Perhaps the census taker simply marked the wrong box. Here also is information from the 1800 census. It lists Clement, Isaac and David in Warrington Township, York County, PA, National Archives M32, roll 44. Clement Vanasdale (HOH), line 18, page 209 One white male 16 thru 25, one white female 16 thru 25 and one white female 45 and over Isaac Vanansdaln (HOH), line 10, page 210 One white male under 10, one white male 26 thru 44, one white female under 10 and one white female 26 thru 44 David Vanansdaln (HOH), line 33 page 210 Two white males under 10, one white male 10 thru 15, one white male 26 thru 44, three white females under 10 and one white female 26 thru 44 The Jacob mentioned as administrator of David's estate may have been the Jacob W., son of Isaac Van and Elizabeth Arnold, you mention. Jacob and his wife Sophia Martz had a farm in Silver Spring Township, Cumberland County, PA, which is not too far from Franklin Township, York County. You mention in another note, however that it appears David remained single. I don't think that's the case. I think it more likely David died without a will and the administrator's notice wouldn't necessarily mention heirs, only the administrator. As listed above, it appears from both the 1800 and 1810 census that he was married and had a family. I've got information that he died June 21, 1837 at the age of 61 years, 11 months and is buried with his wife Eva in Chestnut Grove Burial Ground (possibly also known as Zeigler's Burial Ground) in Lattimore Township, Adams County. I haven't had a chance to confirm this however. If we're to believe the census data, it appears he had at least 4 sons. My guess is the Jacob mentioned as the adminstrator of David's estate is a son. That's a guess, nothing more. Somewhere along the way I picked up the names Peter Pietersen and Eliza ? as parents of Neeltje and Hannah, but I don't have a source for where I got that information. I descend from Johannis Van and Neeltje Pietersen through Isaac and his second with, Margaret Steel. My line runs like this: Charles William Vanasdalan, Jr., Charles William Vanasdalan (Ruth Margaret Koontz), Harold Everett Vanasdalan (Eliza Gardner Osborne), George Harper Vanasdalan (Susan Elizabeth Spidle), William Harper Vanasdlen (Anna M. Jones), William Vanasdlen (Annie Elizabeth Hutchinson Neron), Isaac Vanasdlen (Margaret Steel), Johannis Van Arsdalen (Neeltje Pietersen). My mother (Ruth) recently sent you descendant data she and I have collected on Isaac Van's family. I hope this information is helpful. Chuck V. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 6/14/2001 at 12:07 PM Jamescassidy22@cs.com wrote: >Would you be willing to share with the information given for both David and >Simon in the 1810 census. That would be extremely helpful. > >There is an administration for David in York County. Unfortunately the >County Clerk that sent me the copy did not include the Book this was taken >from. I find this happening more often than not these days. > >The administration was from the November 7th, 1837 Circuit Court - pg 533- >York Co. PA > >Vandal, Jacob Vanasdale, Administrator of the Estate of David Vanasdall, late >of Franklin Township, Deceased, by attorney appeared in Court and produced >his Administration account of the Estate of said deceased, duly settled and >p-assed before the Register of York County where by there appears to be a >balance due the said accountant of sixty-six dollars and fifteen and a half >cents, which account the court do here by confirm. > >While I cannot say for certain, it is possible that Jacob Vanasdale, was the >son of Isaac and Elsabetha Margareta born in 1803. > >Yes, this is the Isaac who was married to Margretha Elizabeth Arnold. > >Do you have any idea at all, who the parents of Neeltje Pieterson and Hannah >Pieterson were? Also do you descend from one of these families? Any >additional information that you might have would be extremely helpful > >With appreciation > >Judy > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing so: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to Sign-up for access (free) >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different results for you.