Ginny: So far as I can tell, all Van Arsdalens in the county are related if we could trace everyone back far enough. Certainly, all the early New Yorkers were more closely related. The majority of Van Arsdalens settled in Middlesex and Somerset Cos., New Jersey, and in Bucks and York (now Adams) Cos., Pennsylvania. However, there were some pioneers who ventured out in different directions, and we are just now learning about some of these. Many of the early Virginia settlers in the family came from Pennsylvania settlements. A lot has been written about this. However, not much has been written about New Jersey settler migrations. From Pennsylvania, there were two known routes of travel. Flatboaters down the Ohio River was the first, and the second route was overland through Maryland and down between the mountains separating Virginia and West Virginia. New Jersey settlers would have likely taken the overland route, but could have taken either. By 1820, Van Arsdalens had settled in many states including the Virginia's and Kentucky [earlier], Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Missouri. I have not made any studies on southern migrations. I do know that some family ended up early in Mississippi, probably by the river routes. I have not really made a detailed study of migration paterns. Mark -----Original Message----- From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >Mark, > >Thank you so much for the "VAN" info below. I've never before had anyone >send me so much detail, in the way of references......BLESS YOU! > >I'm fairly sure that my "VAN's" (Caleb and his father Cornelius) are in some >of these references. I do think, however, that Caleb (at least), his wife >Elizabeth (McCoy) VANORSDALL/VANARSDOL/VANANSDOL and their family (including >my Harriet), had moved on to Champaign Co., OH, somewhere between 1830 and >1840. They had more children there. > >You've taught me some things. For one, I discovered some time ago about the >NUMEROUS spelling variations of the VAN name, so I have been inserting JUST >the VAN part when I've wanted to check out all (I thought) spelling >variations. Now I've learned from you, to also check such spellings as >"Phan....", and "Dan....." ! > >QUESTION: Didn't ALL of the VANS start out in NY, NJ, PA, then move on to >other states, such as VA and KY? And if so, your KY ones are related to my >VA/WV ones.....right? > >Thanks for all your help.....to me and others I've seen your postings to. > >Ginny Mikes1@Cybertrails.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> >To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:23 PM >Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) > > >>Ginny: >> >>"Index To The 1820 Census Of Virginia," by Jeanne Robey Feldon, >Genealogical >>Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1976, P. 442 lists two men named Caleb >>Vanosdel in Greenbriar County, P. 84A of the census, and two men named >>Cornelius Vanasdol in Greenbriar County, P. 84 of the census. The spelling >>variations of the surname may or may not be significant. >> >>"Virginia 1830 Census Index," by Jackson, Teeples and Schaefermeyer, >>Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc., Bountiful, Utah, P. 280 lists Caleb >>Vanansdale, Cornelius Vanansdale, Cornelius Vanansdale, Ju., and James >>Vanansdale, all in Greenbriar County, P. 205 of the census. I have found >>that the spelling of the surname in my own immediate family of Vanarsdalls >>in Mercer Co., KY changed in every census period, and also in different >>branches of my family. I have even seen spellings as diverse as Phanosdol >>and Danosdol. I look under everything beginning with the letter "V" and >>have found hundreds of spellings of the surname. >> >>"Virginia 1840 Census Index," by Jackson and Teeples, Accelerated Indexing >>Systems, Inc, Bountiful, Utah, P. 307, lists Margaret Vanarsdale in >>Greenbriar County, P. 204 of the census, and the same listing appears to be >>made under Vanorsdall. Most of the family appears to have left Greenbriar >>County, Virginia prior to 1840. >> >>I hope this helps to locate your Caleb a little better. The Virginia >>branches of the family are not as well known to me as New York, New Jersey >>and Pennsylvania families. >> >>Mark >>-----Original Message----- >>From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> >>To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:28 AM >>Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >> >> >>>Mark, >>> >>>Thank you for the tax info. This Caleb would be too early for Harriet's >>>father, and I *think* Harriet's father's father (her grandfather) was >named >>>Cornelius. But perhaps this Caleb could be a brother to Cornelius. I >will >>>certainly follow through. >>> >>>Thank you for your kind help, >>> >>>Ginny >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> >>>To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:50 AM >>>Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >>> >>> >>>>Ginny: >>>> >>>>GREENBRIER COUNTY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX 1787-LIST B: >>>> >>>>Vannosdal, Caleb >>>> >>>>Is this your Caleb or a relative? >>>> >>>>Source: "The 1787 Census of Virginia," by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and >>>Florene >>>>Speakman Love, Vol. 1 of three, P. 162. >>>> >>>>Mark >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> >>>>To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:56 PM >>>>Subject: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >>>> >>>> >>>>>With all this "VAN" awakening going on, I'd like to ask if ANYONE out >>>their >>>>in "VAN" land knows about my g-g-g-grandmother Harriet VANARSDOL (many >>>>spelling variations), who married John A. KENTON in Champaign Co., OH, >>then >>>>moved to Jasper Co., IN? Harriet was born in VA (I believe Greenbrier >>Co.) >>>>abt. 1820. Her father was Caleb and her mother was Elizabeth McCoy. >>>>> >>>>>Can anyone out their help me with this family??? >>>>> >>>>>TIA for ANY help, >>>>> >>>>>Ginny @ Mikes1@Cylbertrails.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>>>>This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that >your >>>>address may have >>>>>ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! >>>>>updated 02 May 1999 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>>>Please remember to cite your sources and give credit where credit is due. >>>>JoAnn's Van Arsdale Research >>><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/a/m/Jo-A-Ramseyer/index.html> >>>>Charles Vanorsdale's Descendants of Joosten van Haesdale: >>><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/v/a/n/Charles-R-Vanorsdale/index.ht m >l >>> >>>>Bryce Stevens Van Arsdale page is at >>><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/Bryce-H-Stevens/> >>>>Belle's "Van Page" is at <http://www.goodnet.com/~dmyers/belle-v.html> >>>>Read about the Van Arsdale MYTH >>><http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdalemyth.html> >>>>Sharon Kelley's Van Arsdale page is at >>><http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2679> >>>>The Darland genealogical database has Van Arsdale data: >>><http://w3.one.net/~durp/database/Darland/Darland-surname.htm> >>>>FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>>We can NOT attach files to our mailing list e-mail. >>>Anyone wanting to share a copy of an original document may send that copy >>to <brianter@macatawa.org> >>>for the "Documents" page >><http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdaledocuments.htm>. >>> >> >> >>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>Search the VanArsdale CLUSTER for VANARSDALE (V562) at ROOTSWEB (links to >most VanArsdale data available from Rootsweb) >><http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/v/a/VANARSDALE/> >> >> > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your address may have >ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! >updated 02 May 1999 >