Mark, Did receive the photos - thanks. I will return them with your issue of the Vanguard. I appreciate your hard work assembling the data for The Delta Project and, now that you have a new generation to observe (i.e. Jacob!), am thankful we have descendants from the various lines who have been providing info on their lineages as well to relieve you of some burden. As to the vacation in Holland, it was intended as R&R for the better half and me, but of course I did my homework before I left. Travel difficulties resulted in our losing a full day of Amsterdam exploration, and as we were with a tour group, we didn't have much flexibility to make up for lost time. HOWEVER, in a nutshell, I will say this: We did find the sites in Amsterdam where Sijmon Jansz van Aersdalen used to live (350 years ago), where he married, where his children were baptized, and where his Dutch wife and children were buried. A great deal of research went into finding the non-church related sites. However, I cannot adequately express the feeling I had as I walked through Sijmon's neighborhood, looked out over the river and canal he had to traverse, and stood at the spot where his family found their final resting place. Part of the area was little changed from his day. I was, at the same time, both excited and at peace, having reached my quest; but I can't help but wonder if Sijmon's presence wasn't watching over my shoulder. To me, it was a tremendous genealogical accomplishment and certainly the highlight of my vacation. And as a teaser, Sijmon's presence in Amsterdam at that spot and that point in time was coincident with a truly remarkable phenomenon uniquely Dutch; but you'll have to read The Vanguard to find out what that was! Best wishes to you, Aviva, and Jacob. Hartelijk groeten, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > Hi Charles: > > Thank you for this letter. I was just going to write you on where we stand > on the Delta Project. Thanks for the clarification. > > I think I will send you my copies of early Van Arsdalen family tax records > and census records from the Accelerated Index Search Systems (A. I. > S.)-Search 1 1607-1819 for the entire U. S. There are over 40 pages of > hundreds of our Vans all over the country, with numerous spellings of the > surname, in some of the earliest primary records available beginning in > about 1753 for us. > > I will discuss my ideas about their sorting and publication in future issues > in another letter to you. > > I will also be sending you copies of some of my oldest photos. I will pick > one of Sarah Riker (1811-1905), daughter of Charles Riker [aka: Charles > Suydam] and Mary Banta, and wife of William Smith Vanarsdall (1806-1851). I > will also send you the big picture of the family of Charles Suydam > VanArsdall (1835-1919) and George Ann Van Nuys Terhune, including most > children and grandchildren with full names. I will probably through in a > studio photo of my grandparents Charlie Rose Van Arsdall (1900-1954) and > Bessie Alma Mullens (1903-1960), including my mom Ann and Aunt Kathy as > young girls. I hope you got the other photos I sent recently. > > All is well with Aviva, Jacob, and me. How is your tribe doing these days? > I would like to hear more about your vacation. You know how I am about > details! > > Mark Alan Thomas > Los Angeles, California > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> > To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 2:54 PM > Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > > > >The Vanguard, newsletter of The van Aersdalen Family Association, will be > rolling off the presses soon. We have a little space left for posting > queries, so if any of you have a burning "Van Arsdale" loose end let me know > ASAP so I can get it in the next issue! > > > >This next issue includes: > >Sijmon's Amsterdam Neighborhood > >Preble County, OH Origins > >The Delta Project - Jan Simonsz's children (specifically Simon, Nicholas, > Sarah, Jurrian, Heletje, and Maria; rest to follow) > >Further Notes on Charity Alter > >The Van Mythos - Bornholm Controversy > >Vans & Slavery > >The Mystery of Aaron Arsdale > >Vans Go to Court! > >Revised 1790 Federal Census > >1810 Federal Census > >Queries > >News > > > >Some interesting maps and photos too! > > > >Charles R. Vanorsdale > > > > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing > so: > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> > >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> > >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to > Sign-up for access (free) > >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> > >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different > results for you. > > > > ______________________________

Charles, How do you sign up for the Vanguard? I would be interested Peg ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > Mark, > Did receive the photos - thanks. I will return them with your issue of the > Vanguard. I appreciate your hard work assembling the data for The Delta > Project and, now that you have a new generation to observe (i.e. Jacob!), am > thankful we have descendants from the various lines who have been providing > info on their lineages as well to relieve you of some burden. > > As to the vacation in Holland, it was intended as R&R for the better half > and me, but of course I did my homework before I left. Travel difficulties > resulted in our losing a full day of Amsterdam exploration, and as we were > with a tour group, we didn't have much flexibility to make up for lost time. > HOWEVER, in a nutshell, I will say this: > > We did find the sites in Amsterdam where Sijmon Jansz van Aersdalen used to > live (350 years ago), where he married, where his children were baptized, > and where his Dutch wife and children were buried. A great deal of research > went into finding the non-church related sites. However, I cannot adequately > express the feeling I had as I walked through Sijmon's neighborhood, looked > out over the river and canal he had to traverse, and stood at the spot where > his family found their final resting place. Part of the area was little > changed from his day. I was, at the same time, both excited and at peace, > having reached my quest; but I can't help but wonder if Sijmon's presence > wasn't watching over my shoulder. To me, it was a tremendous genealogical > accomplishment and certainly the highlight of my vacation. > > And as a teaser, Sijmon's presence in Amsterdam at that spot and that point > in time was coincident with a truly remarkable phenomenon uniquely Dutch; > but you'll have to read The Vanguard to find out what that was! > > Best wishes to you, Aviva, and Jacob. > > Hartelijk groeten, > Charles > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> > To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:46 AM > Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > > > > Hi Charles: > > > > Thank you for this letter. I was just going to write you on where we > stand > > on the Delta Project. Thanks for the clarification. > > > > I think I will send you my copies of early Van Arsdalen family tax records > > and census records from the Accelerated Index Search Systems (A. I. > > S.)-Search 1 1607-1819 for the entire U. S. There are over 40 pages of > > hundreds of our Vans all over the country, with numerous spellings of the > > surname, in some of the earliest primary records available beginning in > > about 1753 for us. > > > > I will discuss my ideas about their sorting and publication in future > issues > > in another letter to you. > > > > I will also be sending you copies of some of my oldest photos. I will > pick > > one of Sarah Riker (1811-1905), daughter of Charles Riker [aka: Charles > > Suydam] and Mary Banta, and wife of William Smith Vanarsdall (1806-1851). > I > > will also send you the big picture of the family of Charles Suydam > > VanArsdall (1835-1919) and George Ann Van Nuys Terhune, including most > > children and grandchildren with full names. I will probably through in a > > studio photo of my grandparents Charlie Rose Van Arsdall (1900-1954) and > > Bessie Alma Mullens (1903-1960), including my mom Ann and Aunt Kathy as > > young girls. I hope you got the other photos I sent recently. > > > > All is well with Aviva, Jacob, and me. How is your tribe doing these > days? > > I would like to hear more about your vacation. You know how I am about > > details! > > > > Mark Alan Thomas > > Los Angeles, California > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charles Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> > > To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 2:54 PM > > Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > > > > > > >The Vanguard, newsletter of The van Aersdalen Family Association, will be > > rolling off the presses soon. We have a little space left for posting > > queries, so if any of you have a burning "Van Arsdale" loose end let me > know > > ASAP so I can get it in the next issue! > > > > > >This next issue includes: > > >Sijmon's Amsterdam Neighborhood > > >Preble County, OH Origins > > >The Delta Project - Jan Simonsz's children (specifically Simon, Nicholas, > > Sarah, Jurrian, Heletje, and Maria; rest to follow) > > >Further Notes on Charity Alter > > >The Van Mythos - Bornholm Controversy > > >Vans & Slavery > > >The Mystery of Aaron Arsdale > > >Vans Go to Court! > > >Revised 1790 Federal Census > > >1810 Federal Census > > >Queries > > >News > > > > > >Some interesting maps and photos too! > > > > > >Charles R. Vanorsdale > > > > > > > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > > >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in > doing > > so: > > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> > > >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: > > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> > > >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: > > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to > > Sign-up for access (free) > > >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to > > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> > > >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists > > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > > >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have > different > > results for you. > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > We can NOT attach files to our mailing list e-mail. > Anyone wanting to share a copy of an original document may send that copy to <brianter@macatawa.org> > for the "Documents" page <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdaledocuments.htm>. >