Hi, Thought I'd do some searching on the net and see what I'd come up with .... I used the names from the query below to enhance my playtime (Not MY family! Can't find ANYTHING about them!) ... I used my subscription to FamilyTreeMaker's Genealogy.Com, will cite their original source: dbus83@juno.com wrote: > > > > I would do the jig at your wedding if you can help me find the parents of > Cornelius C. VanArsdall who married Cynthia (Seicha) VanDivier (spelling > may vary) Cornelius > b. February 15, 1766 d. October 14, 1866 Cynthia b. January 1, 1775 d. > October 3, 1868 > They were married October 21, 1804 in Mercer County, Kentucky. > According to Linda's research, this is probably the second marriage for > Cornelius. (First wife being Mary Vanderipe) > Cornelius and Cynthia are buried at the Old Mud Meeting House. > > Donna > SOURCE: Haddon, McClure, Curry and Allied Families Author: Eliza Haddon Brevoort and Doris Bond Wheeler Call Number: CS71.H122 Page 154 Iva McClure Aumann was the daughter of 1 William Coleman McClure b. 4-17-1848 d. 11-10-1921. wife, Amanda Atkinson b. 9-4-1850 d. 6-14-1933 mar. 12-24-1874 2 William Coleman McClure, child of Alexander McClure b. 1818 d. 6-26-1895 wife. Mary Ann Vandiver b. 2-11-1829 d. 5- -1864 mar. 4-1-1847 Alexander McClure, child of 3 William McClure wife, Elizabeth Vandiver b. 1795 mar. 8-27-1816 Elizabeth Vandiver, child of Peter Vandiver b. 1760 d. 3-6-1823 wife, Anna Lagrange b. 1759 d. 4-23-1855 m. 1782 References: 2 Family records - certified copy attached 3 Ky. Pioneer Court Records. Mercer Co. marriages p. 138 4 Gravestones in cemetery 6 mi. SW of Harrodsburg (Both Alexander & Mary Ann McClure & Vandiveers. At Berea Church on Maxville Pike Road) 5 (Vandiver material) Ky - Bible Record. Bible now in possession of Mrs. Lucy Brown Daviess Hopper, 500 Cane Run Ave., Harrodsburg, Ky. Johnson Co., Ind. Bible Records vol. 2 pt. 1 p. 198. Peter Vandiver (Vandeveer) served as a private in Capt. Wm. Jones' Co. Colonel John Taylor's Second Battalion, Somerset Co. Militia, Revolutionary War. Page 155 References: Record of Adjutant General's Office in State of New Jersey/Copy attached to application - National Number 268593. Children of Revolutionary Ancestor-- Cyntha (Suda) b. 1783 m. Cornelius Vanarsdall Peter b. 10-15-1787 m. Sarah Garshwiler Charity b. 11-11-1789 m. Daniel Milburn John b. 1792 m. 1 Catherine Vanarsdall 2 Mary Vanfleet Elizabeth b. 1795 m. William McClure Adron b. 1798 m. Elizabeth Vanfleet James b. 1801 m. Barbara Canary Isaac b. 1806 Lucinda Brown Certified copy of this record attached to Application No. 268593. William m. Elizabeth Vandivier Children: 1 Alexander m. Mary Ann Vandiver Children: Walter Scott William Cole Children of Walter Scott McClure: Elmer Mary Charles (named for Charles Rose, Scotty & Dale Howard at London, Ky., wife Jean. Sons: Scotty and Dale. William Cole McClure had three daughters, one being Iva McClure Aumann 2 Peter m. Jane will 1862-65. Children unnamed. 3 Charity 4 Mary Ann m. 1840 Thomas S. Rose (She was called Aunt Sis). Oney was a dau & mar. a Jones. 5 Nancy Jane m. Walters. The Jones' (dau. of Mary Ann & Thos S Rose) & first cousin (own cousin) of Wm Cole McClure went first to Johnson, Co., Ind., then after a visit William Cole McClure went. Following them was the Walters. Ivy Bird McClure was 9 yrs old when they moved to Indiana. She was named for Dr. Bird of Harrodsburg. Maud Rose mar. a Vanarsdall and still lives in Harrodsburg. Rose Hill was on by Berea Church and probably next to McClure land. There was a toll gate between McClures and Berea Church. Robert McClure, sec'y to Masons when Scottish Rite Temple was built in Indpls. Had a McClure book of these McClures. Died & widow went to California. Book also had a picture of Peter Vanarsdall. Page 160 MARRIAGES IN MERCER CO., KY. From Kentucky Pioneers and court records, we find: p. 157 John Vandivier m. Dec. 31, 1829, Mary Van Fleet. p. 150 James Vandivier-Barbara Canary Feb. 12, 1825. p. 148 Peter Vandivier-Elizabeth Traney Oct. 1, 1823. p. 143 Isaac Vandivier-Mary Vanarsdal Dec. 23, 1819. p. 135 Stephen Lyster-Mary Vandivier March 17, 1814. p. 153 Aaron Vandivier-Elizabeth Vanfleet Apr. 19, 1827. p. 130 Peter Vandivier-Sallie Garshwiler March 2, 1809. p. 129 Garret Vandivier-Sarah Chatham Nov. 5, 1807. p. 128 Daniel Damaree-Lythe Vandivier, April 9, 1807. Cornelius Vanarsdall m. Suda (?) Vandivier Oct. 21, 1804. I have nothing further about this family. Hope it helps someone. Terri Rene DaVar-Howard

Bryce- Yes, I'm still here too! I've been VERY silent as I've not been doing much ancestral research of late. Too busy with doing the work of the living- but the desire to search my roots remains strong and I keep my files at hand and my subscription to the list in the hope that some new snippet of information will come across the net. Seeing the post from a 'Van Osdol' got me digging records out, and I find that the name change in my line occurred with Theodorus Williamson Van Osdol, b. 1781 in Conewago, son of Simon Van Arsdale, b. 11 Nov. 1750. BTW- nice to be in touch again! Jerry Carden BStevens wrote: > > ...And my Granny spelled it Vanosdol, while many of her cousins spelled it > Van Osdol, and a few went back and forth. I know that J Carden and I are > fairly close cousins, as the Vans go.... we both descend from the Jan > Simonse line (right? Or have I confused you with another?) But I know that > some of the Cornelius Simonse line also went to the Vanosdol spelling .... > both lines are found in southeastern Indiana, and both use Vanosdol and Van > Osdol. > > Bryce Stevens > > : My maiden name is spelled Van Osdol and Jeff and I are distant cousins. We > : both descend out of sons of Jacob Banta Van Osdol. He fought in the war of > : 1812 and he changed the spelling so it would be pronounced correctely. For > : the A in Dutch is pronounced like our O. I know of many Van Osdols. Glee > : Van Osdol Krapf > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > Please LINK to this page from your own Web Site: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale>

I am seeking info on Nora Vanarsdell, possiblly daughter of Priestly Vanarsdell possibly son of Ouke Van Arsdall and Priestly possibly brother of Benjamin, Isham, Jefferson, John & Bybee Van Osdoll. The only facts that I have is Nora Ann Vanarsdale/Vanarsdell b 20-19-1855, Bedford, Trimble county, KY , died 5-16-1926 Bristow, OK married Joseph Liston 10-16-1878, Garnett, Ks. Any help appreciated. Sincerely, Rhonda Withers

And my recently deceased Thomas Vanosdol B. spell the Van name that way even though his gr-grandfather spelled his surname.....VanArsdale. I like the explanation one of the Van gave........said the spelling was changed so the name could be pronounced. I had never thought about that reason.......but have often wondered how and why so many variations arose over time. And I, like other Vans or descendants of Vans, am attempting to put my complete family tree on the PC so that I won't keep having to refer to notes, censuses, rag-tag pieces of paper with jotting on the them. I wonder if our descendants will be as proud of all of us as I am proud to have some Van blood in me. What a wonderful group of God-fearing, stout of heart, determined, and yes, even illustrious notable achievers they were and still are. I am proud to be a part of this family. And thanks for a leader like Charles to help carry on the research and allow us all to be the lucky recipients of the research of those who preceded this generation and those who are still diligently searching and sharing. However you spell your Van.....no matter........we're all from the same great family! Lucy tiger@kopower.com ---------- > From: BStevens <BStevens@netstarcomm.net> > To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale spellings/ Vanosdol, Van Osdol > Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 8:06 PM > > ...And my Granny spelled it Vanosdol, while many of her cousins spelled it > Van Osdol, and a few went back and forth. I know that J Carden and I are > fairly close cousins, as the Vans go.... we both descend from the Jan > Simonse line (right? Or have I confused you with another?) But I know that > some of the Cornelius Simonse line also went to the Vanosdol spelling ... > both lines are found in southeastern Indiana, and both use Vanosdol and Van > Osdol. > > Bryce Stevens > > : My maiden name is spelled Van Osdol and Jeff and I are distant cousins. We > : both descend out of sons of Jacob Banta Van Osdol. He fought in the war of > : 1812 and he changed the spelling so it would be pronounced correctely. For > : the A in Dutch is pronounced like our O. I know of many Van Osdols. Glee > : Van Osdol Krapf > > > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > Please LINK to this page from your own Web Site: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale>

I'm still here, and I still haven't found anyone on the list who has the Van spelling of my maiden name, which is Vanasdal. I've seen the name spelled that way in old censuses, and I know of one living line from my ggggf, but nobody seems to claim that spelling besides us these days. If someone could come up with a marriage or death for the sisters of my gggf, John Isaac Vanasdal, it would be a huge help, I think. They were Caroline, b 1853, Licking Co., OH, Lucinda, b. 1855 Licking Co., OH., and Emily, b 1861 Licking Co., OH. Two were living in 1901, but I don't know which two, or if any of them every married. Since I can't find their parents' death place and date (John and Deborah Jordan Vanasdal), maybe there would be helpful info on the daughter's records, but I can't find them past 1880, when only Emily was still at home. They could have married or died in OH, IN, or IL, because their parents were in those states, but that doesn't mean the girls stayed in those states. Anybody have those girls married to someone in their lines? Barb, in MS ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Hayes <linhayes@interl.net> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 12:55 PM Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Re: Still Here > I'm still here, too. I'm concentrating on my husband's line. > > Like Donna I would dance a jig too if I could find the parents of Cornelius C. Vanarsdall b. 1776 in NJ & d. 1866 in Mercer Co., KY. > > Linda > > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > Search the VanArsdale CLUSTER for VANARSDALE (V562) at ROOTSWEB (links to most VanArsdale data available from Rootsweb) > <http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/v/a/VANARSDALE/> >

...And my Granny spelled it Vanosdol, while many of her cousins spelled it Van Osdol, and a few went back and forth. I know that J Carden and I are fairly close cousins, as the Vans go.... we both descend from the Jan Simonse line (right? Or have I confused you with another?) But I know that some of the Cornelius Simonse line also went to the Vanosdol spelling .... both lines are found in southeastern Indiana, and both use Vanosdol and Van Osdol. Bryce Stevens : My maiden name is spelled Van Osdol and Jeff and I are distant cousins. We : both descend out of sons of Jacob Banta Van Osdol. He fought in the war of : 1812 and he changed the spelling so it would be pronounced correctely. For : the A in Dutch is pronounced like our O. I know of many Van Osdols. Glee : Van Osdol Krapf

My maiden name is spelled Van Oslol and Jeff and I are distant cousins. We both descend out of sons of Jacob Banta Van Osdol. He fought in the war of 1812 and he changed the spelling so it would be pronounced correctely. For the A in Dutch is pronounced like our O. I know of many Van Osdols. Glee Van Osdol Krapf -----Original Message----- From: jcarden <jcarden@staff.uiuc.edu> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Where is everyone? >Jeff- >Where are you from and what line do you come down from? There aren't >that many Vans that use your spelling. My grandmother's line used that >spelling and I'm just curious... >Jerry Carden > >"VanOsdol, Jeffrey" wrote: >> >> Some of us are here, but just don't have much to say. Sorry. I will try to >> be more active during this New Year. >> >> Jeff Van Osdol >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: HorseladyK@aol.com [mailto:HorseladyK@aol.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 1:08 PM >> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Where is everyone? >> >> Have not received any queries on the Van family since the >> New Year. Thought I >> might have somehow become unsubscribed. Perhaps all our Vans >> are travelling. >> Just thought I would ask. >> Received Vol 2#2 of The Vanguard. Enjoying the reading. May >> have some new >> information on Dirck and Marytye Vermilyea Van Asdale and >> the connection to >> Derrick and Aaron VanNosdall. Still searching for >> additional documentation. >> Will follow up. >> Kay (VanNosdall) Mackey >> Dutchess Co. NY >> >> ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >> This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET >> so that your address may have >> ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically >> removed!!! >> updated 02 May 1999 >> >> ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >> The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing so: >> <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> >> An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: >> <http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> >> A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: >> <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to Sign-up for access (free) >> If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to >> <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> >> ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists >> <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> >> Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different results for you. > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing so: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to Sign-up for access (free) >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different results for you. > >

Jeff- Where are you from and what line do you come down from? There aren't that many Vans that use your spelling. My grandmother's line used that spelling and I'm just curious... Jerry Carden "VanOsdol, Jeffrey" wrote: > > Some of us are here, but just don't have much to say. Sorry. I will try to > be more active during this New Year. > > Jeff Van Osdol > > -----Original Message----- > From: HorseladyK@aol.com [mailto:HorseladyK@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 1:08 PM > To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Where is everyone? > > Have not received any queries on the Van family since the > New Year. Thought I > might have somehow become unsubscribed. Perhaps all our Vans > are travelling. > Just thought I would ask. > Received Vol 2#2 of The Vanguard. Enjoying the reading. May > have some new > information on Dirck and Marytye Vermilyea Van Asdale and > the connection to > Derrick and Aaron VanNosdall. Still searching for > additional documentation. > Will follow up. > Kay (VanNosdall) Mackey > Dutchess Co. NY > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET > so that your address may have > ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically > removed!!! > updated 02 May 1999 > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing so: > <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> > An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: > <http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> > A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to Sign-up for access (free) > If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> > ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists > <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different results for you.

Charles, I hear that the Vanguard is out. Did you use our picture? Donna ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I'm still here, too. I'm concentrating on my husband's line. Like Donna I would dance a jig too if I could find the parents of Cornelius C. Vanarsdall b. 1776 in NJ & d. 1866 in Mercer Co., KY. Linda

Hope you are all able to find at least one answer this year to these relationships. In my research here in Dutchess Co. NY I find those born near the Amer.Revolution 1775,6,7 do not have available records. I wonder if their baptisms etc were put off for safety reasons, or perhaps the ministers moved a lot and took records with them. Just a thought. Donna.... It looks like your family photo made The Vanguard. Very nice. Thanks for all the replies. Will be on the lookout for any meaningful info for all of you. Kay Mackey

I'm still here, too. Just not much to write about either. I've been concentrating on my mother's line, sort of letting the Van's rest. My main interest in the Van's right now is an indirect one. I've posted this before and so has Linda Wright, but perhaps there is someone new looking in. I would do the jig at your wedding if you can help me find the parents of Cornelius C. VanArsdall who married Cynthia (Seicha) VanDivier (spelling may vary) Cornelius b. February 15, 1766 d. October 14, 1866 Cynthia b. January 1, 1775 d. October 3, 1868 They were married October 21, 1804 in Mercer County, Kentucky. According to Linda's research, this is probably the second marriage for Cornelius. (First wife being Mary Vanderipe) Cornelius and Cynthia are buried at the Old Mud Meeting House. Donna ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I am here, but packing to move. I hope to be more active on the list again in March or April, or when ever I get my stuff unpacked. Linda Wright lwright@sctcorp.com aka ladyfish@looksmart.com HorseladyK@aol.com on 01/14/2000 01:08:23 PM Please respond to VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com cc: Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Where is everyone? Have not received any queries on the Van family since the New Year. Thought I might have somehow become unsubscribed. Perhaps all our Vans are travelling. Just thought I would ask. Received Vol 2#2 of The Vanguard. Enjoying the reading. May have some new information on Dirck and Marytye Vermilyea Van Asdale and the connection to Derrick and Aaron VanNosdall. Still searching for additional documentation. Will follow up. Kay (VanNosdall) Mackey Dutchess Co. NY ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your address may have ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! updated 02 May 1999

Some of us are here, but just don't have much to say. Sorry. I will try to be more active during this New Year. Jeff Van Osdol -----Original Message----- From: HorseladyK@aol.com [mailto:HorseladyK@aol.com] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 1:08 PM To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Where is everyone? Have not received any queries on the Van family since the New Year. Thought I might have somehow become unsubscribed. Perhaps all our Vans are travelling. Just thought I would ask. Received Vol 2#2 of The Vanguard. Enjoying the reading. May have some new information on Dirck and Marytye Vermilyea Van Asdale and the connection to Derrick and Aaron VanNosdall. Still searching for additional documentation. Will follow up. Kay (VanNosdall) Mackey Dutchess Co. NY ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your address may have ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! updated 02 May 1999

I will try to get something started here. I am seeking info on Nora Ann Vanarsdale b 10-29-1855 in Bedford KY d 5-16-1926 in Bristow OK. Father's name Priest (Priestly Priesley) Vanarsdale/Vanasodall b 1818 married Nancy Vanarsdale. Nora married Joseph Liston 10-16-1878 in Garnett Ks. Any help appreciated. Rhonda

Have not received any queries on the Van family since the New Year. Thought I might have somehow become unsubscribed. Perhaps all our Vans are travelling. Just thought I would ask. Received Vol 2#2 of The Vanguard. Enjoying the reading. May have some new information on Dirck and Marytye Vermilyea Van Asdale and the connection to Derrick and Aaron VanNosdall. Still searching for additional documentation. Will follow up. Kay (VanNosdall) Mackey Dutchess Co. NY

Hello, I'm sending this message to the Mailing Lists I "coordinate" ... > Just thought to update those of you who may have been thwarted by > downloading a chat program to join us on IRC (internet relay chat) You > can > now join #GenealogyForum from the web! Just go to: > > http://www.afternet.org/chat/index.html > > The instructions are on the page and easy to follow. STEP (1) > Just enter a > nickname > in the nickname window. STEP (2) > Click the down arrow next to the Channel window > and > choose "Other ?" then type in #GenealogyForum in the window and click on > CONNECT. You will automatically be connected to our Genealogy Chat > channel. > IF you end up in a *wrong* room, click on SERVER at the top of your window, click on Join Channel, click on OTHER then type or paste #GenealogyForum in the pop-up-box. > If you have never tried IRC as a Genealogy tool, you have missed a great > resource. Evenings are full of helpful people with helpful information. > You just might meet a cousin you didn't know about! Merry Chatting! Terri Rene

This was sent to me by a friend today who does a great deal of research in KY. The info may be old news to those who are interested, but since Ky. Vans aren't mine, I don't keep track of what's posted, so I'll post this for anyone interested, just in case. The info came from the vertical files of the KY Historical Society. Barb, in MS Van Arsdalen Bible Records Van Arsdalen (or Van Arsdale), Abraham was born January 19, 1708 and married Oct. 1, 1731 for the first time and married for the second time Feby. 7, 1740, Maria Van Nuys born November 23 in the year 1717. Van Arsdalen, Isaac - born Nov. 26th, 1734. Van Arsdelen, Willhelmus - born July 17th, 1737. My first child born the 28th of October 1741 and died the 29th (instant.) My son Cornelius Van Arsdalen, born the 17th of Aug. 1743 and he died the 11th day of July 1745. My daughter, Katy, born the second day of Sept. 1745. My a second son, Cornelius, born the 5th of July 1748. My third son, Abraham, born the 2nd day of Dec. 1750. My husband, Abraham Van Arsdalen, died the 13th day of April 1753. Van Arsdalen, Maria - born the 18th day of July 1753. Caty - married the 17th day of March 1763. Cornelius - married the 24th day of January 1771. Abraham - married the 15th day of August 1771. Van Arsdalen, Mary - married when 22 years old and died April 13, 1784. My last husband, I. Bergen, died Oct. 13, 1704. (Probably should be 1784. Dh) (The above was a copy of a typed list of the bible information. Since it is a transcription, errors could well be there as shown in the last entry. Dh - 29 Dec 1999)

Misc. Last year chasing whales off Cape Cod I came across a plaque, at the Provincetown MA airport, which read "John C. VanArsdale founder of Provincetown - Boston Airline Dec 4 1919 - Feb 7 1997" This airport was purportedly used for the tarmac scenes for the TV show "Wings". There is also here in NYC the "Harry VanArsdale Jr. Highway" On the internet search (http://www.harryvanarsdalejr.org/) of there is a memorial of Harry VanArsdale Jr. 1905-1986 elected the first president of the merged New York City Central Labor Council AFL-CIO in 1957 and quote: "His passion and concern for the well being and dignity of others has substantially improved the lives of working men and women." Also a picture of Harry and Jack Kennedy (http://www.harryvanarsdalejr.org/HVABIO.html) Michael Wolfe

Vans, My earlier post re Burton VAN was in error > Burton VANARSDALL > born 2 Mar 1913; place not listed ***error*** > died 2 Mar 1913; Book H-22, pg 56 Burton's correct birthdate is 15 Nov 1860. Thanks, Charles. Phyllis Miller Fleming Shelbyville, IN