Mark, Thank you so much for the "VAN" info below. I've never before had anyone send me so much detail, in the way of references......BLESS YOU! I'm fairly sure that my "VAN's" (Caleb and his father Cornelius) are in some of these references. I do think, however, that Caleb (at least), his wife Elizabeth (McCoy) VANORSDALL/VANARSDOL/VANANSDOL and their family (including my Harriet), had moved on to Champaign Co., OH, somewhere between 1830 and 1840. They had more children there. You've taught me some things. For one, I discovered some time ago about the NUMEROUS spelling variations of the VAN name, so I have been inserting JUST the VAN part when I've wanted to check out all (I thought) spelling variations. Now I've learned from you, to also check such spellings as "Phan....", and "Dan....." ! QUESTION: Didn't ALL of the VANS start out in NY, NJ, PA, then move on to other states, such as VA and KY? And if so, your KY ones are related to my VA/WV ones.....right? Thanks for all your help.....to me and others I've seen your postings to. Ginny Mikes1@Cybertrails.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >Ginny: > >"Index To The 1820 Census Of Virginia," by Jeanne Robey Feldon, Genealogical >Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1976, P. 442 lists two men named Caleb >Vanosdel in Greenbriar County, P. 84A of the census, and two men named >Cornelius Vanasdol in Greenbriar County, P. 84 of the census. The spelling >variations of the surname may or may not be significant. > >"Virginia 1830 Census Index," by Jackson, Teeples and Schaefermeyer, >Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc., Bountiful, Utah, P. 280 lists Caleb >Vanansdale, Cornelius Vanansdale, Cornelius Vanansdale, Ju., and James >Vanansdale, all in Greenbriar County, P. 205 of the census. I have found >that the spelling of the surname in my own immediate family of Vanarsdalls >in Mercer Co., KY changed in every census period, and also in different >branches of my family. I have even seen spellings as diverse as Phanosdol >and Danosdol. I look under everything beginning with the letter "V" and >have found hundreds of spellings of the surname. > >"Virginia 1840 Census Index," by Jackson and Teeples, Accelerated Indexing >Systems, Inc, Bountiful, Utah, P. 307, lists Margaret Vanarsdale in >Greenbriar County, P. 204 of the census, and the same listing appears to be >made under Vanorsdall. Most of the family appears to have left Greenbriar >County, Virginia prior to 1840. > >I hope this helps to locate your Caleb a little better. The Virginia >branches of the family are not as well known to me as New York, New Jersey >and Pennsylvania families. > >Mark >-----Original Message----- >From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> >To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:28 AM >Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) > > >>Mark, >> >>Thank you for the tax info. This Caleb would be too early for Harriet's >>father, and I *think* Harriet's father's father (her grandfather) was named >>Cornelius. But perhaps this Caleb could be a brother to Cornelius. I will >>certainly follow through. >> >>Thank you for your kind help, >> >>Ginny >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> >>To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:50 AM >>Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >> >> >>>Ginny: >>> >>>GREENBRIER COUNTY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX 1787-LIST B: >>> >>>Vannosdal, Caleb >>> >>>Is this your Caleb or a relative? >>> >>>Source: "The 1787 Census of Virginia," by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and >>Florene >>>Speakman Love, Vol. 1 of three, P. 162. >>> >>>Mark >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> >>>To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:56 PM >>>Subject: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >>> >>> >>>>With all this "VAN" awakening going on, I'd like to ask if ANYONE out >>their >>>in "VAN" land knows about my g-g-g-grandmother Harriet VANARSDOL (many >>>spelling variations), who married John A. KENTON in Champaign Co., OH, >then >>>moved to Jasper Co., IN? Harriet was born in VA (I believe Greenbrier >Co.) >>>abt. 1820. Her father was Caleb and her mother was Elizabeth McCoy. >>>> >>>>Can anyone out their help me with this family??? >>>> >>>>TIA for ANY help, >>>> >>>>Ginny @ Mikes1@Cylbertrails.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>>>This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your >>>address may have >>>>ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! >>>>updated 02 May 1999 >>>> >>> >>> >>>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>>Please remember to cite your sources and give credit where credit is due. >>>JoAnn's Van Arsdale Research >><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/a/m/Jo-A-Ramseyer/index.html> >>>Charles Vanorsdale's Descendants of Joosten van Haesdale: >><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/v/a/n/Charles-R-Vanorsdale/index.htm l >> >>>Bryce Stevens Van Arsdale page is at >><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/Bryce-H-Stevens/> >>>Belle's "Van Page" is at <http://www.goodnet.com/~dmyers/belle-v.html> >>>Read about the Van Arsdale MYTH >><http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdalemyth.html> >>>Sharon Kelley's Van Arsdale page is at >><http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2679> >>>The Darland genealogical database has Van Arsdale data: >><http://w3.one.net/~durp/database/Darland/Darland-surname.htm> >>>FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. >>> >>> >> >> >>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>We can NOT attach files to our mailing list e-mail. >>Anyone wanting to share a copy of an original document may send that copy >to <brianter@macatawa.org> >>for the "Documents" page ><http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdaledocuments.htm>. >> > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >Search the VanArsdale CLUSTER for VANARSDALE (V562) at ROOTSWEB (links to most VanArsdale data available from Rootsweb) ><http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/v/a/VANARSDALE/> > >

Mark, I am trying to find any information on my gg grandmother Nora Ann Vanarsdale (various spellings) b 10-29-1855, Bedford, Trimble County, Kentucky, parents believed to be Priestly Vanarsdale, Sr. born abt 1818 married Nancy Fallis 1850, Nancy born abt 1820. Siblings names; Robert G, Priestly Jr., Isom L & Annie. Any help appreciated. Thank You, Rhonda Withers

I also have a Banta-Van Arsdall genealogy written by a man in Indiana and not printed - it was just passed out to family members. It gives very few dates and no places to speak of, and quite a few names which I have had lots of fun trying to connect! Sasha Stanley Greene County OH

Hi, Bonnie - we may have corresponded before, I'm not sure, but I am a descendant of Cornelius and jannetje through their son, William, through William and Mary's son, Lucas, who also went to Montgomery County OH. John, according to my information, died in 1814 in Montgomery Co. OH. I live just over the line in Greene County but I might as well live in Montgomery Co because the line is only a few blocks away and I work in Montgomery Co. As far as I know, John had only the son, Cornelius, however, Lucas had a couple of children that I suspect are not his as they are older than the date of his marriage. These could be John's. Names unknown. On the other hand, they could be children of a first marriage, or they could be children of his wife's or they could be children belonging to someone else. Don't know that yet. Sasha Stanley Greene County OH

Donald: According to Mai 'Noy Vanarsdall, long time resident of Harrodsburg, Kentucky and member of the Harrodsburg Historical Society, now deceased, there were originally eleven Vanarsdalen families who settled in Mercer County prior to 1800. Several families left the area, reducing that number to about seven or eight. Hundreds of families have descended from these and later arrivals to the area. My Vanarsdalen, Van Arsdall, Vanarsdall, Vanarsdell, Vannarsdall branches resided in Mercer County, Kentucky continuously from 1794-1926. I have many records of the Vanarsdalen family in Mercer Co., KY. In my marriage index [Vanarsdalls only] for the county they are nearly all grouped under the most common spelling of Vanarsdall. I have copies of the census records for all the Vanarsdall families of Mercer Co., KY for 1850 and 1860, and many earlier records. Give me some names and dates and I will see if I can find anything. No one has ever placed all the Vanarsdall familes who have ever lived in Mercer Co., KY to my knowledge. We are talking about a very large group of people. Our surname has always been very common in Mercer Co., KY since its origins in the 1780's. At one time I had hoped to place all the Vanarsdall familes in Mercer Co., KY. Perhaps this job is about half done, more or less. Are you related to Gordon Van Arsdale of California? I have his lines. In fact, he comes from my immediate family. If you have your family worked back to about 1850, there is a good chance I can place you, if you have not done so already. Mark Alan Thomas, son of Ann Dalton Van Arsdall (1929-2000), daughter of Charlie Rose Van Arsdall (1900-1954), son of Riker Samuel VanArsdall (1868-1938), son of Charles Suydam VanArsdall (1835-1919), son of William Smith Vanarsdall (1807-1851), son of Alexander Vanarsdall (1777-1855), son of Cornelius A. Van Arsdalen, aka: Cornelis A. Vanarsdall, removed to Salt River from New Jersey (1748-1840), son of Abraham Van Aersdalen (1708-1753), son of Cornelis Sijmonsen Van Aersdalen (1665-1745), son of the immigrant Sijmon Jansen Van Arsdalen (1627-1710) -----Original Message----- From: Donald Thos. Van Arsdale <muscoevannooe@peoplepc.com> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:23 AM Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Vanarsdall/Van Arsdale genealogy >Posted on: Van Arsdale Deeds & Land Documents >Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdaleDeed?read=1 > >Surname: Vanarsdall, Vanarsdale, Van Arsdale >------------------------- > >I would like to learn as much as possible regarding any or all Vanarsdalls >- Van Arsdales who during their lifetimes >resided in the County of Mercer, and cities of Harrodsburg,Danville, Salvisa >and other surrounding cities or towns. This would also include Burgin. >All tha above named sites are located in Kentucky. > >Thank You. > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from this list, send an e-mail message to: ><VanArsdale-l-request@rootsweb.com> >In the subject line & body include only one word: >>> unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) >

Ginny: "Index To The 1820 Census Of Virginia," by Jeanne Robey Feldon, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1976, P. 442 lists two men named Caleb Vanosdel in Greenbriar County, P. 84A of the census, and two men named Cornelius Vanasdol in Greenbriar County, P. 84 of the census. The spelling variations of the surname may or may not be significant. "Virginia 1830 Census Index," by Jackson, Teeples and Schaefermeyer, Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc., Bountiful, Utah, P. 280 lists Caleb Vanansdale, Cornelius Vanansdale, Cornelius Vanansdale, Ju., and James Vanansdale, all in Greenbriar County, P. 205 of the census. I have found that the spelling of the surname in my own immediate family of Vanarsdalls in Mercer Co., KY changed in every census period, and also in different branches of my family. I have even seen spellings as diverse as Phanosdol and Danosdol. I look under everything beginning with the letter "V" and have found hundreds of spellings of the surname. "Virginia 1840 Census Index," by Jackson and Teeples, Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc, Bountiful, Utah, P. 307, lists Margaret Vanarsdale in Greenbriar County, P. 204 of the census, and the same listing appears to be made under Vanorsdall. Most of the family appears to have left Greenbriar County, Virginia prior to 1840. I hope this helps to locate your Caleb a little better. The Virginia branches of the family are not as well known to me as New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania families. Mark -----Original Message----- From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >Mark, > >Thank you for the tax info. This Caleb would be too early for Harriet's >father, and I *think* Harriet's father's father (her grandfather) was named >Cornelius. But perhaps this Caleb could be a brother to Cornelius. I will >certainly follow through. > >Thank you for your kind help, > >Ginny > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> >To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:50 AM >Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) > > >>Ginny: >> >>GREENBRIER COUNTY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX 1787-LIST B: >> >>Vannosdal, Caleb >> >>Is this your Caleb or a relative? >> >>Source: "The 1787 Census of Virginia," by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and >Florene >>Speakman Love, Vol. 1 of three, P. 162. >> >>Mark >>-----Original Message----- >>From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> >>To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:56 PM >>Subject: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >> >> >>>With all this "VAN" awakening going on, I'd like to ask if ANYONE out >their >>in "VAN" land knows about my g-g-g-grandmother Harriet VANARSDOL (many >>spelling variations), who married John A. KENTON in Champaign Co., OH, then >>moved to Jasper Co., IN? Harriet was born in VA (I believe Greenbrier Co.) >>abt. 1820. Her father was Caleb and her mother was Elizabeth McCoy. >>> >>>Can anyone out their help me with this family??? >>> >>>TIA for ANY help, >>> >>>Ginny @ Mikes1@Cylbertrails.com >>> >>> >>> >>>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>>This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your >>address may have >>>ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! >>>updated 02 May 1999 >>> >> >> >>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>Please remember to cite your sources and give credit where credit is due. >>JoAnn's Van Arsdale Research ><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/a/m/Jo-A-Ramseyer/index.html> >>Charles Vanorsdale's Descendants of Joosten van Haesdale: ><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/v/a/n/Charles-R-Vanorsdale/index.html > >>Bryce Stevens Van Arsdale page is at ><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/Bryce-H-Stevens/> >>Belle's "Van Page" is at <http://www.goodnet.com/~dmyers/belle-v.html> >>Read about the Van Arsdale MYTH ><http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdalemyth.html> >>Sharon Kelley's Van Arsdale page is at ><http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2679> >>The Darland genealogical database has Van Arsdale data: ><http://w3.one.net/~durp/database/Darland/Darland-surname.htm> >>FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. >> >> > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >We can NOT attach files to our mailing list e-mail. >Anyone wanting to share a copy of an original document may send that copy to <brianter@macatawa.org> >for the "Documents" page <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdaledocuments.htm>. >

Posted on: Biographies of Van Arsdale & Related Families Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdaleBios?read=109 Surname: vANARSDALEN ------------------------- CORNEL VAN ARSDALEN THROUGH THEIR SON WILLIAM WHO WAS MY 4TH G-GRANDFATHER.I BELIEVE THAT MAJOR SIMON AND THEIR BROTHER LUKE WENT TO KENTUCKY AND THAT JOHN WENT TO OHIO WITH WILLIAM. JOHN SIGNED A PETITION TO CONGRESS IN 1799 ALONG WITH WILLIAM ABOUT THE LAND THEY HAD IN THE SYMMES PURCASE-

Posted on: Biographies of Van Arsdale & Related Families Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdaleBios?read=108 Surname: vANARSDALEN ------------------------- HI-I AM A DESCENDANT OF CORNELIUS SIMONSE VAN ARSDALEN AND HIS SECOND WIFE,JANNETJE CORNEL,THROUGH THEIR SON WILLIAM.JOHN'S MOTHER WAS LAMMENTJE VAN NUYS,CORNELIUS'FIRST WIFE,AT LEAST WHAT THE LDS SHOWS.JOHN WENT TO SOUTHWESTERN OHIO WITH WILLIAM AND THEY SIGNED A PETITION TO THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS IN 1799 ASKING FOR LEGAL TITLE TO THE LAND THEY HAD IN THE SYMMES PURCHASE.JANNETJE(GENNET)VANARSDALEN MENTIONED JOHN AND WILLIAM IN HER WILL IN 1802.JOHN HAD A SON CORNELIUS ALSO MENTIONED IN HIS GRANDMOTHERS WILL,THE FIRST WILL RECORDED IN MONTGOMERY CO.,OHIO. CORNELIUS WENT TO DELAWARE CO.,INDIANA IN 1820 -THE YEAR HIS SON ISAAC WAS BORN,BUT I DON'T KNOW IF JOHN WENT THERE,TOO. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO RESEARCH THIS YET.ISAAC MIGRATED TO CLARINDA IN PAGE COUNTY IOWA,WHERE HE DIED AND LEFT MANY DESCENDANTS.DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF JOHN'S WIFE OR ANY OTHER CHILDREN? THERE ARE SO MANY JOHN'S AND CORNELIUS'SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO FIGURE THEM OUT.IF WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER LET ME KNOW.HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU BONNIE BARNES WORLEY

Great seeing this much activity on the list. I too would like to list my Vanarsdale's (various spellings) I am looking for information on Nora Vanarsdale b 10-29-1855 Bedford, Trimble County, Kentucky married Joseph Liston 10-16-1878 in Garnett, Anderson County, Kansas. Mothers name I believe was Nancy Fallis b about 1820 Father Priestly Vanarsdale born abt 1818. I believe Nancy had brothers named; Robert G, Priestly Jr., & Isom L and a sister named Annie. Any help or advice appreciated. Happy Hunting, Rhonda Withers

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Posted on: Van Arsdale Deeds & Land Documents Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdaleDeed?read=1 Surname: Vanarsdall, Vanarsdale, Van Arsdale ------------------------- I would like to learn as much as possible regarding any or all Vanarsdalls - Van Arsdales who during their lifetimes resided in the County of Mercer, and cities of Harrodsburg,Danville, Salvisa and other surrounding cities or towns. This would also include Burgin. All tha above named sites are located in Kentucky. Thank You.

To all the wonderful VAN researchers, I too, have lost Van's in New Jersey. Originally I thought I was descended from Simon, Jan, Christofel, John, Tunis but information from Charles Van Orsdale and Murial Horner as well as local church records (Dutch Ref.Ch. Dutchess Co. NY) lead me to believe I am descended from Simon, Cornelius Simonese, Dirck Cornelius,and then either a Cornelius (possibly a lost generation) or Dirck b.1745 and married to Marytje Vermilyea in 1767. Their son Derrick b.1777 is my GGGgrandfather and buried here in the Middlebush Cemetery, Dutchess Co. NY. Since we are hot on the trail of some lost relatives does anyone out there have any information that would help me varify Derrick's parentage. Is is Dirck or Tunis? We think there was an error in research in the 1940's that put Derrick and his brother Aaron (also bur. in the cemetery with his brother) as sons of Tunis VanArsdale of Montgomery, Orange Co. NY. Thank you. Kay (VanNosdall) Mackey (The VanArsdale changed to Vanosdal and VanNosdall with Derrick's generation here in Dutchess Co. NY)

Mark, Thank you for the tax info. This Caleb would be too early for Harriet's father, and I *think* Harriet's father's father (her grandfather) was named Cornelius. But perhaps this Caleb could be a brother to Cornelius. I will certainly follow through. Thank you for your kind help, Ginny -----Original Message----- From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >Ginny: > >GREENBRIER COUNTY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX 1787-LIST B: > >Vannosdal, Caleb > >Is this your Caleb or a relative? > >Source: "The 1787 Census of Virginia," by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florene >Speakman Love, Vol. 1 of three, P. 162. > >Mark >-----Original Message----- >From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> >To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:56 PM >Subject: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) > > >>With all this "VAN" awakening going on, I'd like to ask if ANYONE out their >in "VAN" land knows about my g-g-g-grandmother Harriet VANARSDOL (many >spelling variations), who married John A. KENTON in Champaign Co., OH, then >moved to Jasper Co., IN? Harriet was born in VA (I believe Greenbrier Co.) >abt. 1820. Her father was Caleb and her mother was Elizabeth McCoy. >> >>Can anyone out their help me with this family??? >> >>TIA for ANY help, >> >>Ginny @ Mikes1@Cylbertrails.com >> >> >> >>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your >address may have >>ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! >>updated 02 May 1999 >> > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >Please remember to cite your sources and give credit where credit is due. >JoAnn's Van Arsdale Research <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/a/m/Jo-A-Ramseyer/index.html> >Charles Vanorsdale's Descendants of Joosten van Haesdale: <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/v/a/n/Charles-R-Vanorsdale/index.html> >Bryce Stevens Van Arsdale page is at <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/Bryce-H-Stevens/> >Belle's "Van Page" is at <http://www.goodnet.com/~dmyers/belle-v.html> >Read about the Van Arsdale MYTH <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdalemyth.html> >Sharon Kelley's Van Arsdale page is at <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2679> >The Darland genealogical database has Van Arsdale data: <http://w3.one.net/~durp/database/Darland/Darland-surname.htm> >FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. > >

Ginny: GREENBRIER COUNTY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX 1787-LIST B: Vannosdal, Caleb Is this your Caleb or a relative? Source: "The 1787 Census of Virginia," by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florene Speakman Love, Vol. 1 of three, P. 162. Mark -----Original Message----- From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:56 PM Subject: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >With all this "VAN" awakening going on, I'd like to ask if ANYONE out their in "VAN" land knows about my g-g-g-grandmother Harriet VANARSDOL (many spelling variations), who married John A. KENTON in Champaign Co., OH, then moved to Jasper Co., IN? Harriet was born in VA (I believe Greenbrier Co.) abt. 1820. Her father was Caleb and her mother was Elizabeth McCoy. > >Can anyone out their help me with this family??? > >TIA for ANY help, > >Ginny @ Mikes1@Cylbertrails.com > > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your address may have >ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! >updated 02 May 1999 >

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Linda, That goes for me, also. And my search is becoming more urgent. My cousin's mother, who put me onto the search for Cornelius, may not be with us much longer. She has cancer that is very advanced. She wanted so much to find the connection to Cornelius. I pray that the information will be found soon. Hopefully someone will see your message and will respond. Donna ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

With all this "VAN" awakening going on, I'd like to ask if ANYONE out their in "VAN" land knows about my g-g-g-grandmother Harriet VANARSDOL (many spelling variations), who married John A. KENTON in Champaign Co., OH, then moved to Jasper Co., IN? Harriet was born in VA (I believe Greenbrier Co.) abt. 1820. Her father was Caleb and her mother was Elizabeth McCoy. Can anyone out their help me with this family??? TIA for ANY help, Ginny @ Mikes1@Cylbertrails.com

Bryce, perhaps you can help me. I don't have my notes in front of me, but I think I have the names and dates right. My GGGrandfather was orphaned in about 1828(?). His name was Valencourt Van Orsdale and was born in 1817. He had at least one older sister, Marie(?) and moved to Lee County, Iowa with her and her husband(some of the original settlers). I don't know if there are other siblings, but I think there were, because of some references to others and to brothers. A brother might have been neamed Amos. Anyway, Valencourt's parents were named Simon Van Orsdale and Catherine Claypoole b1784. Catherines parents were from Kentucky/Tennessee, but, from what I can tell, moved to Indiana and I believe Catherine was from Indiana. She died in about 1825. I have no information on Simon, except that he was a frontier trader who did not come back from a trading trip in about 1828. Purely speculation from information gathered is that Simon and Catherine moved to the Chicago area and Valencourt was born there. I believe some of his trips went to the Lee County Iowa area, but don't know where else. I do know that other Van Arsdales moved to Lee county sometime afterward and there is nothing stated about relationships between the various Van Arsdales. So, my question to you is, is there a Simon VanOrsdale in your clan, perhaps born about 1780 that either married a Catherine, disappeared or moved west? ----- Original Message ----- From: BStevens <BStevens@netstarcomm.net> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Van's and Bantas > Hello Bonnie, > There is another Banta history you might find worthwhile --- less obvious > because of its title. It is "Our Vertical Van Osdol Lineage from Symon > Jansen Van Arsdalen Through Twelve Generations," by Bessie Van > Osdol-Schneider, Wichita, Kansas, 1979. Her history, too, is filled with > stories and anecdotes about the Bantas as well as the Van Arsdales. > My own Vanosdol (our back-country Indiana spelling) line diverges from > yours right off: I descend through Cornelius' little brother, Jan Simonse. > So from our immigrant Sijmon, thence Jan, Christophel, Ouke, Oakey, Oakey, > David, Charles, and my Grandmother, Audra. No Bantas in that line. > However, I had published my first venture into the family history back in > 1975. Bessie came across it, and we corresponded for many years while she > worked out her line. She was also in contact with Franklyn Frick, James > Banta, June Webb, Edward Vanarsdale and many others of the older generation > (not that I want to be placed there just yet!!) > I don't believe I helped her much except as a cheer-leader, since our > lines were so divergent. But she was kind enough to send me a copy of her > finished study. So much has been learned since then! I wish these > long-gone researchers could have enjoyed the fruits of the on-going labors. > I hope they do know of our strides! > > Cordially, > Bryce Stevens > > > : I am a Van-my line is > Simon,Cornelius,Simon,Cornelius,William,Richard,Cornelius > : and my grandmother Ferriba VanArsdol(our spelling).Just wondered if you > : are aware of the two Banta family history books.One is Banta Genealogy > : written by Theodore M Banta and the other one is Banta Pioneers and > Records > : of the Wives and Allied Families written by Elsa M Banta. There are many > : marriages between the Van Arsdalen and Banta families in them.I loved the > : stories written about this family and about > : Hendrick Banta-he is one of the pioneer men I really admire-and the women > : -I admire them all! I have both of these books in our local library's > gen.room.If > : I can be of help let me know. > > Bonnie Barnes Worley > > > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > We can NOT attach files to our mailing list e-mail. > Anyone wanting to share a copy of an original document may send that copy to <brianter@macatawa.org> > for the "Documents" page <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdaledocuments.htm>. >

Bryce, I think those long ago ancestors and researchers know of our strides and are helping to further them. Now, why doesn't my line help me even a little bit? (g) Still looking for parents of John Vanasdal born 1823. Barb, in MS ----- Original Message ----- From: BStevens <BStevens@netstarcomm.net> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Van's and Bantas > Hello Bonnie, > There is another Banta history you might find worthwhile --- less obvious > because of its title. It is "Our Vertical Van Osdol Lineage from Symon > Jansen Van Arsdalen Through Twelve Generations," by Bessie Van > Osdol-Schneider, Wichita, Kansas, 1979. Her history, too, is filled with > stories and anecdotes about the Bantas as well as the Van Arsdales. > My own Vanosdol (our back-country Indiana spelling) line diverges from > yours right off: I descend through Cornelius' little brother, Jan Simonse. > So from our immigrant Sijmon, thence Jan, Christophel, Ouke, Oakey, Oakey, > David, Charles, and my Grandmother, Audra. No Bantas in that line. > However, I had published my first venture into the family history back in > 1975. Bessie came across it, and we corresponded for many years while she > worked out her line. She was also in contact with Franklyn Frick, James > Banta, June Webb, Edward Vanarsdale and many others of the older generation > (not that I want to be placed there just yet!!) > I don't believe I helped her much except as a cheer-leader, since our > lines were so divergent. But she was kind enough to send me a copy of her > finished study. So much has been learned since then! I wish these > long-gone researchers could have enjoyed the fruits of the on-going labors. > I hope they do know of our strides! > > Cordially, > Bryce Stevens > > > : I am a Van-my line is > Simon,Cornelius,Simon,Cornelius,William,Richard,Cornelius > : and my grandmother Ferriba VanArsdol(our spelling).Just wondered if you > : are aware of the two Banta family history books.One is Banta Genealogy > : written by Theodore M Banta and the other one is Banta Pioneers and > Records > : of the Wives and Allied Families written by Elsa M Banta. There are many > : marriages between the Van Arsdalen and Banta families in them.I loved the > : stories written about this family and about > : Hendrick Banta-he is one of the pioneer men I really admire-and the women > : -I admire them all! I have both of these books in our local library's > gen.room.If > : I can be of help let me know. > > Bonnie Barnes Worley > > > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > We can NOT attach files to our mailing list e-mail. > Anyone wanting to share a copy of an original document may send that copy to <brianter@macatawa.org> > for the "Documents" page <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdaledocuments.htm>. >

Hello Bonnie, There is another Banta history you might find worthwhile --- less obvious because of its title. It is "Our Vertical Van Osdol Lineage from Symon Jansen Van Arsdalen Through Twelve Generations," by Bessie Van Osdol-Schneider, Wichita, Kansas, 1979. Her history, too, is filled with stories and anecdotes about the Bantas as well as the Van Arsdales. My own Vanosdol (our back-country Indiana spelling) line diverges from yours right off: I descend through Cornelius' little brother, Jan Simonse. So from our immigrant Sijmon, thence Jan, Christophel, Ouke, Oakey, Oakey, David, Charles, and my Grandmother, Audra. No Bantas in that line. However, I had published my first venture into the family history back in 1975. Bessie came across it, and we corresponded for many years while she worked out her line. She was also in contact with Franklyn Frick, James Banta, June Webb, Edward Vanarsdale and many others of the older generation (not that I want to be placed there just yet!!) I don't believe I helped her much except as a cheer-leader, since our lines were so divergent. But she was kind enough to send me a copy of her finished study. So much has been learned since then! I wish these long-gone researchers could have enjoyed the fruits of the on-going labors. I hope they do know of our strides! Cordially, Bryce Stevens : I am a Van-my line is Simon,Cornelius,Simon,Cornelius,William,Richard,Cornelius : and my grandmother Ferriba VanArsdol(our spelling).Just wondered if you : are aware of the two Banta family history books.One is Banta Genealogy : written by Theodore M Banta and the other one is Banta Pioneers and Records : of the Wives and Allied Families written by Elsa M Banta. There are many : marriages between the Van Arsdalen and Banta families in them.I loved the : stories written about this family and about : Hendrick Banta-he is one of the pioneer men I really admire-and the women : -I admire them all! I have both of these books in our local library's gen.room.If : I can be of help let me know. Bonnie Barnes Worley