Ken Keller wrote: > Hi Terri, > > I'm amazed at the amount of detail in your photos. > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > Search the VanArsdale CLUSTER for VANARSDALE (V562) at ROOTSWEB (links to most VanArsdale data available from Rootsweb) > <http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/v/a/VANARSDALE/> I REALLY wish I could take credit for the photography! But ... this particular picture was sent in by list member Dave Van Arsdale <DVanarsdal@aol.com> . I don't know his source, maybe he'll notice this posting and let us in on the secret <grin>. Terri Rene

Hi Terri, I'm amazed at the amount of detail in your photos. Last summer I went to the Vandergrift Cemetery in Bensalem PA to photograph headstones and found nothing as clear as yours. Why the Vandergrifts? They intermarried with the Van Arsdales in Bucks Co, PA, and besides, my wife is a Vandegrift. They also preceeded the move of the Dutch community from Brooklyn ( as it now is called) to PA. Most of the descendants still live there. Ken At 03:56 PM 7/3/2000 -0400, you wrote: >There is a *new* photograph located at ><http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/JacobVanArsdale.html>. This >picture is of the headstones of Rev. Jacob R. Van Arsdale and >his wife Martha Dawes. They are located in the cemetery of the >Tyre Reformed Church (where he was the founding pastor and >served for 20 years) in Tyre, New York. > >The photograph belongs to Dave Van Arsdale ><DVanarsdal@aol.com> and may be used for personal purposes >only (it is not to be used for publication or sale without his >written permission). > >Please send the URL of any pages containing information about >this couple or their children & I will link to that >information from this page. Reciprocal links are always >appreciated. > >Terri Rene DaVar-Howard > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >Please LINK to this page from your own Web Site: ><http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale> Ken Keller krk@Kappa.ultranet.com

Got it. Dave Van Arsdale 84 Echo Hills Drive Kalamazoo, MI 49009 e-mail: DVanarsdal@aol.com (616) 353-1184 (home) (616) 344-0119 (church) web page: www.kalamazoofirstpres.org

I am seeking info. on Mary VanArsdale pos. married to Azaraiah Ayers born mid 1700's. Also need info on Christopher VanArsdale who was present at the estate sale of Azariah Ayers in Gibson Co.,IN. 1822-23 Thanks Gina

There is a *new* photograph located at <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/JacobVanArsdale.html>. This picture is of the headstones of Rev. Jacob R. Van Arsdale and his wife Martha Dawes. They are located in the cemetery of the Tyre Reformed Church (where he was the founding pastor and served for 20 years) in Tyre, New York. The photograph belongs to Dave Van Arsdale <DVanarsdal@aol.com> and may be used for personal purposes only (it is not to be used for publication or sale without his written permission). Please send the URL of any pages containing information about this couple or their children & I will link to that information from this page. Reciprocal links are always appreciated. Terri Rene DaVar-Howard

Dear Charles, The last issue I received was Vol 1, No. 2 (Dec 1998). I think I paid for 1999, did I miss some issues? My address is Mark Holt, 105 Wood Pond Cr., Williamsburg, VA 23185. Please let me know if I am listed as a current subscriber. Thanks, Mark

Mark, Did receive the photos - thanks. I will return them with your issue of the Vanguard. I appreciate your hard work assembling the data for The Delta Project and, now that you have a new generation to observe (i.e. Jacob!), am thankful we have descendants from the various lines who have been providing info on their lineages as well to relieve you of some burden. As to the vacation in Holland, it was intended as R&R for the better half and me, but of course I did my homework before I left. Travel difficulties resulted in our losing a full day of Amsterdam exploration, and as we were with a tour group, we didn't have much flexibility to make up for lost time. HOWEVER, in a nutshell, I will say this: We did find the sites in Amsterdam where Sijmon Jansz van Aersdalen used to live (350 years ago), where he married, where his children were baptized, and where his Dutch wife and children were buried. A great deal of research went into finding the non-church related sites. However, I cannot adequately express the feeling I had as I walked through Sijmon's neighborhood, looked out over the river and canal he had to traverse, and stood at the spot where his family found their final resting place. Part of the area was little changed from his day. I was, at the same time, both excited and at peace, having reached my quest; but I can't help but wonder if Sijmon's presence wasn't watching over my shoulder. To me, it was a tremendous genealogical accomplishment and certainly the highlight of my vacation. And as a teaser, Sijmon's presence in Amsterdam at that spot and that point in time was coincident with a truly remarkable phenomenon uniquely Dutch; but you'll have to read The Vanguard to find out what that was! Best wishes to you, Aviva, and Jacob. Hartelijk groeten, Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > Hi Charles: > > Thank you for this letter. I was just going to write you on where we stand > on the Delta Project. Thanks for the clarification. > > I think I will send you my copies of early Van Arsdalen family tax records > and census records from the Accelerated Index Search Systems (A. I. > S.)-Search 1 1607-1819 for the entire U. S. There are over 40 pages of > hundreds of our Vans all over the country, with numerous spellings of the > surname, in some of the earliest primary records available beginning in > about 1753 for us. > > I will discuss my ideas about their sorting and publication in future issues > in another letter to you. > > I will also be sending you copies of some of my oldest photos. I will pick > one of Sarah Riker (1811-1905), daughter of Charles Riker [aka: Charles > Suydam] and Mary Banta, and wife of William Smith Vanarsdall (1806-1851). I > will also send you the big picture of the family of Charles Suydam > VanArsdall (1835-1919) and George Ann Van Nuys Terhune, including most > children and grandchildren with full names. I will probably through in a > studio photo of my grandparents Charlie Rose Van Arsdall (1900-1954) and > Bessie Alma Mullens (1903-1960), including my mom Ann and Aunt Kathy as > young girls. I hope you got the other photos I sent recently. > > All is well with Aviva, Jacob, and me. How is your tribe doing these days? > I would like to hear more about your vacation. You know how I am about > details! > > Mark Alan Thomas > Los Angeles, California > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> > To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 2:54 PM > Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > > > >The Vanguard, newsletter of The van Aersdalen Family Association, will be > rolling off the presses soon. We have a little space left for posting > queries, so if any of you have a burning "Van Arsdale" loose end let me know > ASAP so I can get it in the next issue! > > > >This next issue includes: > >Sijmon's Amsterdam Neighborhood > >Preble County, OH Origins > >The Delta Project - Jan Simonsz's children (specifically Simon, Nicholas, > Sarah, Jurrian, Heletje, and Maria; rest to follow) > >Further Notes on Charity Alter > >The Van Mythos - Bornholm Controversy > >Vans & Slavery > >The Mystery of Aaron Arsdale > >Vans Go to Court! > >Revised 1790 Federal Census > >1810 Federal Census > >Queries > >News > > > >Some interesting maps and photos too! > > > >Charles R. Vanorsdale > > > > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing > so: > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> > >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> > >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to > Sign-up for access (free) > >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> > >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different > results for you. > > > > ______________________________

Charles, How do you sign up for the Vanguard? I would be interested Peg ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > Mark, > Did receive the photos - thanks. I will return them with your issue of the > Vanguard. I appreciate your hard work assembling the data for The Delta > Project and, now that you have a new generation to observe (i.e. Jacob!), am > thankful we have descendants from the various lines who have been providing > info on their lineages as well to relieve you of some burden. > > As to the vacation in Holland, it was intended as R&R for the better half > and me, but of course I did my homework before I left. Travel difficulties > resulted in our losing a full day of Amsterdam exploration, and as we were > with a tour group, we didn't have much flexibility to make up for lost time. > HOWEVER, in a nutshell, I will say this: > > We did find the sites in Amsterdam where Sijmon Jansz van Aersdalen used to > live (350 years ago), where he married, where his children were baptized, > and where his Dutch wife and children were buried. A great deal of research > went into finding the non-church related sites. However, I cannot adequately > express the feeling I had as I walked through Sijmon's neighborhood, looked > out over the river and canal he had to traverse, and stood at the spot where > his family found their final resting place. Part of the area was little > changed from his day. I was, at the same time, both excited and at peace, > having reached my quest; but I can't help but wonder if Sijmon's presence > wasn't watching over my shoulder. To me, it was a tremendous genealogical > accomplishment and certainly the highlight of my vacation. > > And as a teaser, Sijmon's presence in Amsterdam at that spot and that point > in time was coincident with a truly remarkable phenomenon uniquely Dutch; > but you'll have to read The Vanguard to find out what that was! > > Best wishes to you, Aviva, and Jacob. > > Hartelijk groeten, > Charles > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> > To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:46 AM > Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > > > > Hi Charles: > > > > Thank you for this letter. I was just going to write you on where we > stand > > on the Delta Project. Thanks for the clarification. > > > > I think I will send you my copies of early Van Arsdalen family tax records > > and census records from the Accelerated Index Search Systems (A. I. > > S.)-Search 1 1607-1819 for the entire U. S. There are over 40 pages of > > hundreds of our Vans all over the country, with numerous spellings of the > > surname, in some of the earliest primary records available beginning in > > about 1753 for us. > > > > I will discuss my ideas about their sorting and publication in future > issues > > in another letter to you. > > > > I will also be sending you copies of some of my oldest photos. I will > pick > > one of Sarah Riker (1811-1905), daughter of Charles Riker [aka: Charles > > Suydam] and Mary Banta, and wife of William Smith Vanarsdall (1806-1851). > I > > will also send you the big picture of the family of Charles Suydam > > VanArsdall (1835-1919) and George Ann Van Nuys Terhune, including most > > children and grandchildren with full names. I will probably through in a > > studio photo of my grandparents Charlie Rose Van Arsdall (1900-1954) and > > Bessie Alma Mullens (1903-1960), including my mom Ann and Aunt Kathy as > > young girls. I hope you got the other photos I sent recently. > > > > All is well with Aviva, Jacob, and me. How is your tribe doing these > days? > > I would like to hear more about your vacation. You know how I am about > > details! > > > > Mark Alan Thomas > > Los Angeles, California > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charles Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> > > To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 2:54 PM > > Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > > > > > > >The Vanguard, newsletter of The van Aersdalen Family Association, will be > > rolling off the presses soon. We have a little space left for posting > > queries, so if any of you have a burning "Van Arsdale" loose end let me > know > > ASAP so I can get it in the next issue! > > > > > >This next issue includes: > > >Sijmon's Amsterdam Neighborhood > > >Preble County, OH Origins > > >The Delta Project - Jan Simonsz's children (specifically Simon, Nicholas, > > Sarah, Jurrian, Heletje, and Maria; rest to follow) > > >Further Notes on Charity Alter > > >The Van Mythos - Bornholm Controversy > > >Vans & Slavery > > >The Mystery of Aaron Arsdale > > >Vans Go to Court! > > >Revised 1790 Federal Census > > >1810 Federal Census > > >Queries > > >News > > > > > >Some interesting maps and photos too! > > > > > >Charles R. Vanorsdale > > > > > > > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > > >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in > doing > > so: > > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> > > >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: > > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> > > >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: > > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to > > Sign-up for access (free) > > >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to > > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> > > >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists > > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > > >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have > different > > results for you. > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > We can NOT attach files to our mailing list e-mail. > Anyone wanting to share a copy of an original document may send that copy to <brianter@macatawa.org> > for the "Documents" page <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdaledocuments.htm>. >

QUERY: Still searching for the burial places of LUCAS CORNELIUS VANARSDALE b. 1807, Mercer County, KY, d. 1872 MS and wife, CATHERINE JACKSON CURRIE VANARSDALE of central Mississippi, Madison, Leake, and Attala Counties. Lucas died 1872. Catherine and son Lucas were involved in many land buyings and sellings in the 1880's. No 1890 census available and the Mississippi VanArsdales are not on the 1900 census. DID CATHERINE AND HER SON, LUCAS MOVE FROM MISSISSIPPI? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Vanorsdale" <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 4:52 PM Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > The Vanguard, newsletter of The van Aersdalen Family Association, will be rolling off the presses soon. We have a little space left for posting queries, so if any of you have a burning "Van Arsdale" loose end let me know ASAP so I can get it in the next issue! > > This next issue includes: > Sijmon's Amsterdam Neighborhood > Preble County, OH Origins > The Delta Project - Jan Simonsz's children (specifically Simon, Nicholas, Sarah, Jurrian, Heletje, and Maria; rest to follow) > Further Notes on Charity Alter > The Van Mythos - Bornholm Controversy > Vans & Slavery > The Mystery of Aaron Arsdale > Vans Go to Court! > Revised 1790 Federal Census > 1810 Federal Census > Queries > News > > Some interesting maps and photos too! > > Charles R. Vanorsdale > > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing so: > <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> > An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: > <http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> > A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to Sign-up for access (free) > If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to > <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> > ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists > <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different results for you.

Hello Mark, Aviva and Jacob, Just read your mail to Charles re: VanGuard (upcoming) news, etc. Since you seem to be doing alot of the writing, etc., and I had been pondering who to ask this question........Here goes. I recently had a Memorial Marker Headstone Dedication Service for my gr-uncle, 1st Lieut. Robert Cornelius VanArsdale, son of Lucas Cornelius VanArsdale of Mississippi. I wrote an article for the local paper and our National UDC Magazine, etc. Robert was killed at the Battle of Shiloh, 1862 and body never recovered. So I ordered a marble headstone from the Dept. of Vet. Affairs, my husband erected it beside his 2 year-old son, who bore his father's name. Robert's wife waited 10 years to marry. Don't know where she went after that. But she has an interesting history. (Her father had 100 slaves before the Civil War and her mother is a descendant of Pocahontus.) Long story. Simply wanted to know if the Memorial Service is newsworthy. When time permits, let me know your thoughts on this. I thank you and best regards to all. Lucy Swinney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek" <vangen@gte.net> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > Hi Charles: > > Thank you for this letter. I was just going to write you on where we stand > on the Delta Project. Thanks for the clarification. > > I think I will send you my copies of early Van Arsdalen family tax records > and census records from the Accelerated Index Search Systems (A. I. > S.)-Search 1 1607-1819 for the entire U. S. There are over 40 pages of > hundreds of our Vans all over the country, with numerous spellings of the > surname, in some of the earliest primary records available beginning in > about 1753 for us. > > I will discuss my ideas about their sorting and publication in future issues > in another letter to you. > > I will also be sending you copies of some of my oldest photos. I will pick > one of Sarah Riker (1811-1905), daughter of Charles Riker [aka: Charles > Suydam] and Mary Banta, and wife of William Smith Vanarsdall (1806-1851). I > will also send you the big picture of the family of Charles Suydam > VanArsdall (1835-1919) and George Ann Van Nuys Terhune, including most > children and grandchildren with full names. I will probably through in a > studio photo of my grandparents Charlie Rose Van Arsdall (1900-1954) and > Bessie Alma Mullens (1903-1960), including my mom Ann and Aunt Kathy as > young girls. I hope you got the other photos I sent recently. > > All is well with Aviva, Jacob, and me. How is your tribe doing these days? > I would like to hear more about your vacation. You know how I am about > details! > > Mark Alan Thomas > Los Angeles, California > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> > To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 2:54 PM > Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries > > > >The Vanguard, newsletter of The van Aersdalen Family Association, will be > rolling off the presses soon. We have a little space left for posting > queries, so if any of you have a burning "Van Arsdale" loose end let me know > ASAP so I can get it in the next issue! > > > >This next issue includes: > >Sijmon's Amsterdam Neighborhood > >Preble County, OH Origins > >The Delta Project - Jan Simonsz's children (specifically Simon, Nicholas, > Sarah, Jurrian, Heletje, and Maria; rest to follow) > >Further Notes on Charity Alter > >The Van Mythos - Bornholm Controversy > >Vans & Slavery > >The Mystery of Aaron Arsdale > >Vans Go to Court! > >Revised 1790 Federal Census > >1810 Federal Census > >Queries > >News > > > >Some interesting maps and photos too! > > > >Charles R. Vanorsdale > > > > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing > so: > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> > >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> > >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to > Sign-up for access (free) > >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to > ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> > >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists > ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different > results for you. > > > > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your address may have > ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! > updated 02 May 1999

Hi Charles: Thank you for this letter. I was just going to write you on where we stand on the Delta Project. Thanks for the clarification. I think I will send you my copies of early Van Arsdalen family tax records and census records from the Accelerated Index Search Systems (A. I. S.)-Search 1 1607-1819 for the entire U. S. There are over 40 pages of hundreds of our Vans all over the country, with numerous spellings of the surname, in some of the earliest primary records available beginning in about 1753 for us. I will discuss my ideas about their sorting and publication in future issues in another letter to you. I will also be sending you copies of some of my oldest photos. I will pick one of Sarah Riker (1811-1905), daughter of Charles Riker [aka: Charles Suydam] and Mary Banta, and wife of William Smith Vanarsdall (1806-1851). I will also send you the big picture of the family of Charles Suydam VanArsdall (1835-1919) and George Ann Van Nuys Terhune, including most children and grandchildren with full names. I will probably through in a studio photo of my grandparents Charlie Rose Van Arsdall (1900-1954) and Bessie Alma Mullens (1903-1960), including my mom Ann and Aunt Kathy as young girls. I hope you got the other photos I sent recently. All is well with Aviva, Jacob, and me. How is your tribe doing these days? I would like to hear more about your vacation. You know how I am about details! Mark Alan Thomas Los Angeles, California -----Original Message----- From: Charles Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 2:54 PM Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries >The Vanguard, newsletter of The van Aersdalen Family Association, will be rolling off the presses soon. We have a little space left for posting queries, so if any of you have a burning "Van Arsdale" loose end let me know ASAP so I can get it in the next issue! > >This next issue includes: >Sijmon's Amsterdam Neighborhood >Preble County, OH Origins >The Delta Project - Jan Simonsz's children (specifically Simon, Nicholas, Sarah, Jurrian, Heletje, and Maria; rest to follow) >Further Notes on Charity Alter >The Van Mythos - Bornholm Controversy >Vans & Slavery >The Mystery of Aaron Arsdale >Vans Go to Court! >Revised 1790 Federal Census >1810 Federal Census >Queries >News > >Some interesting maps and photos too! > >Charles R. Vanorsdale > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing so: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to Sign-up for access (free) >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different results for you. >

Charles, I would like to inquire as to if there are any definite documents or living beings in the line of my great grandmother Nora Ann Vanarsdale b 10-29-1855 Bedford, Trimble County, Kentucky. Father; Priestly, Sr., Mother Nancy Fallis. Siblings; Robert G b 6-4-1852, Priestly, Jr., B abt 1854, Isom L b 9-1-1858 d 10-25-1910 married Anna E Heilmann in KS, and Annie. Thank you, Rhonda Withers

Charles ; Please advise if I owe for your current issue. I have recently moved, and many of my records are "lost or in limbo". I have so enjoyed the information provided by you and Mark in past issues. My new mailing address is: Frank Cooper, 720 Delaware Dr. Ozawkie, KS 66070. Looking forward to receiving the new "Vanguard". Best wishes. -----Original Message----- From: Charles Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Queries >The Vanguard, newsletter of The van Aersdalen Family Association, will be rolling off the presses soon. We have a little space left for posting queries, so if any of you have a burning "Van Arsdale" loose end let me know ASAP so I can get it in the next issue! > >This next issue includes: >Sijmon's Amsterdam Neighborhood >Preble County, OH Origins >The Delta Project - Jan Simonsz's children (specifically Simon, Nicholas, Sarah, Jurrian, Heletje, and Maria; rest to follow) >Further Notes on Charity Alter >The Van Mythos - Bornholm Controversy >Vans & Slavery >The Mystery of Aaron Arsdale >Vans Go to Court! >Revised 1790 Federal Census >1810 Federal Census >Queries >News > >Some interesting maps and photos too! > >Charles R. Vanorsdale > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing so: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to Sign-up for access (free) >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different results for you.

The Vanguard, newsletter of The van Aersdalen Family Association, will be rolling off the presses soon. We have a little space left for posting queries, so if any of you have a burning "Van Arsdale" loose end let me know ASAP so I can get it in the next issue! This next issue includes: Sijmon's Amsterdam Neighborhood Preble County, OH Origins The Delta Project - Jan Simonsz's children (specifically Simon, Nicholas, Sarah, Jurrian, Heletje, and Maria; rest to follow) Further Notes on Charity Alter The Van Mythos - Bornholm Controversy Vans & Slavery The Mystery of Aaron Arsdale Vans Go to Court! Revised 1790 Federal Census 1810 Federal Census Queries News Some interesting maps and photos too! Charles R. Vanorsdale

Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale?read=38 Surname: Van Arsdale ------------------------- I am looking for any information I can find about my Grandfather Lawrence Van Arsdale. He lived in Rico Colorado for as long as I knew. My Dad mentioned living in Washington state for awhile when he was young. Dad never did talk about grandad or where he came from. I know we had relatives in Natarita Colorado named Tom and Violet Van Arsdale. Someone told me a long time ago that Lawrence may have come from Kentucky after the civil war was over but I'm not even sure of that. I would appreciate any info anyone might have to offer. Thank you Gerald Van Arsdale

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [KYMERCER-L] old photo's Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 04:29:35 -0700 Resent-From: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:23:31 -0400 From: Jim <jdossett@mediaone.net> To: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Ran across this and thought someone on the list might be interested. Items are for sale. See address below. VAN ARSDALL, Mr. & Mrs. Jack, a group photo with Mr. & Mrs. J.C. James; probably from or from near Harrodsburg, Ky.; found Harrodsburg, Ky. 14 Jan 1996 VAN ARSDELL, Margaret, taken by Spilman Studio, Harrodsburg, Ky.; found Dayton, Ohio 22 Feb 1997. Ford & Nagle Historians and Genealogists Collectors of Antique Family Photos, Family Bibles, and Family Documents http://users.erinet.com/31363/photom-q.htm ============================== The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Ginny - I must admit I haven't had the time to pay attention to the lists lately, but I'm glad I read some mail today! I am also connected to Caleb and Elizabeth (McCoy) VanA, being a descendant of Nancy Van A - their daughter. I wasn't aware of any siblings for Nancy before Cornelius. I have Caleb and Elizabeth's children as 1- Cornelius b ~ 1825 2- Andrew b 1827 m. Sarah Shickel d. 22 Mar 1901 Burr Oak, MI 3- Nancy b 5 Jan 1829 m Adam Miller d. 29 Mar 1871 Fawn River Twp, MI 4- Margaret b ~ 1832 5- John b ~ 1834 6- Talitha b ~ 1838 7- Caleb b ~ 1841 It sound like you have done more research than I and are trying to connect back to the earlier family tree. Elizabeth and children do show up in the 1850 census in W. Greenfield Township, LaGrange Co., Indiana. (Children's last names spelled "Van Ausdol.) Nancy has married Adam Miller and is in her own home in St. Joe Co. MI (Fawn River Township). Elizabeth, Caleb's widow, is just a mile or so away, over the line, and has married Silas Thrailkill. It's nice to know there is a "cousin" out there. Jan Mowry Satrom

Hi, all - I was just doing some research for a lady in North Carolina, and in doing so, checked the BLM records for Ohio. On 13 October 1819, provided by an act of the General Assembly of the state of Ohio, a previous act having been passed 16 February 1810, land for the use of public schools in the Virginia Military District was disposed of by auction. Listed were Simion Vanarsdoll, the NE21 section, twp. 20, range 14, and John Vanesdell, the very same section, land located in Richland Co OH. Those lands not paid for were then auctioned in Mansfield, for Richland Co., on 30 Nov 1819, and for Wayne Co., in Wooster, on 7 Dec. 1819. Sasha Stanley Greene county OH

Ginny: So far as I can tell, all Van Arsdalens in the county are related if we could trace everyone back far enough. Certainly, all the early New Yorkers were more closely related. The majority of Van Arsdalens settled in Middlesex and Somerset Cos., New Jersey, and in Bucks and York (now Adams) Cos., Pennsylvania. However, there were some pioneers who ventured out in different directions, and we are just now learning about some of these. Many of the early Virginia settlers in the family came from Pennsylvania settlements. A lot has been written about this. However, not much has been written about New Jersey settler migrations. From Pennsylvania, there were two known routes of travel. Flatboaters down the Ohio River was the first, and the second route was overland through Maryland and down between the mountains separating Virginia and West Virginia. New Jersey settlers would have likely taken the overland route, but could have taken either. By 1820, Van Arsdalens had settled in many states including the Virginia's and Kentucky [earlier], Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Missouri. I have not made any studies on southern migrations. I do know that some family ended up early in Mississippi, probably by the river routes. I have not really made a detailed study of migration paterns. Mark -----Original Message----- From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >Mark, > >Thank you so much for the "VAN" info below. I've never before had anyone >send me so much detail, in the way of references......BLESS YOU! > >I'm fairly sure that my "VAN's" (Caleb and his father Cornelius) are in some >of these references. I do think, however, that Caleb (at least), his wife >Elizabeth (McCoy) VANORSDALL/VANARSDOL/VANANSDOL and their family (including >my Harriet), had moved on to Champaign Co., OH, somewhere between 1830 and >1840. They had more children there. > >You've taught me some things. For one, I discovered some time ago about the >NUMEROUS spelling variations of the VAN name, so I have been inserting JUST >the VAN part when I've wanted to check out all (I thought) spelling >variations. Now I've learned from you, to also check such spellings as >"Phan....", and "Dan....." ! > >QUESTION: Didn't ALL of the VANS start out in NY, NJ, PA, then move on to >other states, such as VA and KY? And if so, your KY ones are related to my >VA/WV ones.....right? > >Thanks for all your help.....to me and others I've seen your postings to. > >Ginny Mikes1@Cybertrails.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> >To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:23 PM >Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) > > >>Ginny: >> >>"Index To The 1820 Census Of Virginia," by Jeanne Robey Feldon, >Genealogical >>Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1976, P. 442 lists two men named Caleb >>Vanosdel in Greenbriar County, P. 84A of the census, and two men named >>Cornelius Vanasdol in Greenbriar County, P. 84 of the census. The spelling >>variations of the surname may or may not be significant. >> >>"Virginia 1830 Census Index," by Jackson, Teeples and Schaefermeyer, >>Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc., Bountiful, Utah, P. 280 lists Caleb >>Vanansdale, Cornelius Vanansdale, Cornelius Vanansdale, Ju., and James >>Vanansdale, all in Greenbriar County, P. 205 of the census. I have found >>that the spelling of the surname in my own immediate family of Vanarsdalls >>in Mercer Co., KY changed in every census period, and also in different >>branches of my family. I have even seen spellings as diverse as Phanosdol >>and Danosdol. I look under everything beginning with the letter "V" and >>have found hundreds of spellings of the surname. >> >>"Virginia 1840 Census Index," by Jackson and Teeples, Accelerated Indexing >>Systems, Inc, Bountiful, Utah, P. 307, lists Margaret Vanarsdale in >>Greenbriar County, P. 204 of the census, and the same listing appears to be >>made under Vanorsdall. Most of the family appears to have left Greenbriar >>County, Virginia prior to 1840. >> >>I hope this helps to locate your Caleb a little better. The Virginia >>branches of the family are not as well known to me as New York, New Jersey >>and Pennsylvania families. >> >>Mark >>-----Original Message----- >>From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> >>To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:28 AM >>Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >> >> >>>Mark, >>> >>>Thank you for the tax info. This Caleb would be too early for Harriet's >>>father, and I *think* Harriet's father's father (her grandfather) was >named >>>Cornelius. But perhaps this Caleb could be a brother to Cornelius. I >will >>>certainly follow through. >>> >>>Thank you for your kind help, >>> >>>Ginny >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Mark Alan Thomas/Aviva Malek <vangen@gte.net> >>>To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:50 AM >>>Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >>> >>> >>>>Ginny: >>>> >>>>GREENBRIER COUNTY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX 1787-LIST B: >>>> >>>>Vannosdal, Caleb >>>> >>>>Is this your Caleb or a relative? >>>> >>>>Source: "The 1787 Census of Virginia," by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and >>>Florene >>>>Speakman Love, Vol. 1 of three, P. 162. >>>> >>>>Mark >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: mike stroud <mikes1@cybertrails.com> >>>>To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:56 PM >>>>Subject: [VanArsdale-L] VanArsdale (Harriet (VA) > OH (md-KENTON) >>>> >>>> >>>>>With all this "VAN" awakening going on, I'd like to ask if ANYONE out >>>their >>>>in "VAN" land knows about my g-g-g-grandmother Harriet VANARSDOL (many >>>>spelling variations), who married John A. KENTON in Champaign Co., OH, >>then >>>>moved to Jasper Co., IN? Harriet was born in VA (I believe Greenbrier >>Co.) >>>>abt. 1820. Her father was Caleb and her mother was Elizabeth McCoy. >>>>> >>>>>Can anyone out their help me with this family??? >>>>> >>>>>TIA for ANY help, >>>>> >>>>>Ginny @ Mikes1@Cylbertrails.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>>>>This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that >your >>>>address may have >>>>>ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! >>>>>updated 02 May 1999 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>>>Please remember to cite your sources and give credit where credit is due. >>>>JoAnn's Van Arsdale Research >>><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/a/m/Jo-A-Ramseyer/index.html> >>>>Charles Vanorsdale's Descendants of Joosten van Haesdale: >>><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/v/a/n/Charles-R-Vanorsdale/index.ht m >l >>> >>>>Bryce Stevens Van Arsdale page is at >>><http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/Bryce-H-Stevens/> >>>>Belle's "Van Page" is at <http://www.goodnet.com/~dmyers/belle-v.html> >>>>Read about the Van Arsdale MYTH >>><http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdalemyth.html> >>>>Sharon Kelley's Van Arsdale page is at >>><http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2679> >>>>The Darland genealogical database has Van Arsdale data: >>><http://w3.one.net/~durp/database/Darland/Darland-surname.htm> >>>>FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>>We can NOT attach files to our mailing list e-mail. >>>Anyone wanting to share a copy of an original document may send that copy >>to <brianter@macatawa.org> >>>for the "Documents" page >><http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdaledocuments.htm>. >>> >> >> >>==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >>Search the VanArsdale CLUSTER for VANARSDALE (V562) at ROOTSWEB (links to >most VanArsdale data available from Rootsweb) >><http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/v/a/VANARSDALE/> >> >> > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >This Van Arsdale genealogy mailing-list is AUTOMATICALLY SET so that your address may have >ONLY FOUR (4) BOUNCES before your address is automatically removed!!! >updated 02 May 1999 >

Rhoda: Sorry. Priestly Vanarsdale, Sr. and Nancy Fallis were not listed on my marriage index [Vanarsdalls only] for Mercer Co., KY. "Kentucky 1840 Census Index," by Jackson and Teeples, Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc., Bountiful, Utah, P. 228 lists Priestly Vanorsdall in Mercer Co., KY, P. 173 of the census. Vanorsdall was the common spelling in the 1840 Kentucky census index for Mercer County. I found no listing for Priestly Vanarsdale in Kentucky or Indiana census indexes for 1850, and nothing in Kentucky for 1860. There were no listings for any Vanarsdale in Trimble Co., KY in 1850 or 1860, by any spelling of the surname. Do you know if Priestly Vanarsdale, Sr. may have went by another given name? This may be a stretch, but there was a listing in 1850 for "Prinnty Vanarsdallo" in Boyle Co., KY, P. 371. This could be a mispelling made by the indexer. I do not have a copy of this record. Of course, it could also be that he was in another state in 1850 and 1860. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Rjw4038@aol.com <Rjw4038@aol.com> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Vanarsdall/Van Arsdale genealogy >Mark, >I am trying to find any information on my gg grandmother Nora Ann Vanarsdale >(various spellings) b 10-29-1855, Bedford, Trimble County, Kentucky, parents >believed to be Priestly Vanarsdale, Sr. born abt 1818 married Nancy Fallis >1850, Nancy born abt 1820. Siblings names; Robert G, Priestly Jr., Isom L & >Annie. Any help appreciated. >Thank You, >Rhonda Withers > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >The Van Arsdale Mailing List can be searched by anyone interested in doing so: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=VanArsdale-L> >An alternate means of searching the Mailing lists can be found at: ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html> >A third place to search the Mailing Lists for Van Arsdale information is: ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/> a Threaded Archive - you will need to Sign-up for access (free) >If you have already Signed-up, you can go directly to ><http://archiver.rootsweb.com/VANARSDALE-L/> >ROOTSWEB's interactive search engine for Mailing Lists ><http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> >Please DO use ALL of these search engines, as they will each have different results for you. >