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    1. [VanArsdale-L] Will of Rev. Jacob R. Van Arsdale, Tyre, Seneca, NY (1811-1870)
    2. Rose Della Valle and Kristen Van Keuren
    3. Posted on: Van Arsdale Wills, Probate Records, Final Inventories Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdaleWill/12 Surname: Van Arsdale, Dawes, Decker, Nearpass, Smith, Stevenson, Schoonmaker, Easton, Haney, Teller, Mills, Harrmond ------------------------- This is the Will of our gr-gr-grandfather Rev. Jacob R. Van Arsdale of Tyre, Seneca, NY. He was born 13 Sep 1811, I believe in Pluckemin, Somerset County, NY, he died 26 May 1870 in Tyre, Seneca County, NY. His widow was the former Martha B. Dawes, whom he married on 28 Sep 1840 in Somerset County, NJ. I have included with it some papers we had found filed with the will. Apparently the sisters did not feel their brothers were following their father's wishes so they brought action against the boys. ------------------- Will of Jacob R. Van Arsdale In the name of God Amen: I Jacob R. Van Arsdale of the town of Tyre in the county of Seneca and State of New York of the age of fifty eight years and being of sound mind and memory do make publish, and declare this my last will and testament, in manner following, that is to say First I give and bequeath to my wife Martha B. Van Arsdale the use of four cows for milk and butter, one fat beef; one fat hog each and every year for meat for herself and family including in said family Jane and Amy C. Van Arsdale. Said cows, beef and hog are to be kept and fattened from the products of my farms. I give my wife Martha B. Van Arsdale $350, three hundred and fifty dollars annually. Said amount shall be the annual rent of my farms untill my youngest daughter Louisa becomes of age, and in case said Louisa should died before she becomes of age, then I direct that said amount shall be paid to my wife Martha B. untill my daughter Annie becomes of age. And after the said Louisa or Annie as the case may be shall reach their years of majority, then the above amount shall be reduced to $200 two hundred dollars annually for her own benefit. I give her all my household furniture, and the use of at least on half of the house I now occupy. The above provisions and sums of money to be accepted and received by my wife in lieu of d**es.(unreadable) Second I give and devise to my son James Van Arsdale his heirs and assigns the farm on which I live containing our hundred acres of land on conditions herein after mentioned. I give and devise to my son George Van Arsdale his heirs and assigns the farm I have purchased of Truman Decker containing seventy two and one half acres of land on conditions herein after mentioned. I hereby direct that my sons James and George Van Arsdale shall pay an annual rent for the use of my farms of $350, three hundred and fifty dollars said amount shall be paid to my wife Martha B. Van Arsdale untill my daughter Louisa becomes of age and in case she dies before she becomes of age then said amount of rent shall be paid as above mentioned untill my daughter Annie Van Arsdale becomes of age. I also direct that my sons James and George Van Arsdale shall pay two hundred dollars each to the following named children when they become of age. To my son George Van Arsdale two hundred dollars; to my daughter Ellen Van Arsdale two hundred dollars; to my daughter Annie Van Arsdale two hundred dollars; and to my daughter Louisa Van Arsdale two hundred dollars. And further direct that my son James and George Van Arsdale shall pay the following legacies or sums of money. To my daughter Mary Nearpass the sum of nine hundred dollars; to my daughter Laura Smith the sum of nine hundred dollars; to my daughter Jane Van Arsdale the sum of nine hundred dollars; to my daughter Amy C. Van Arsdale the sum of nine hundred dollars; to my daughter Ellen Van Arsdale the sum of nine hundred dollars; to my daughter Annie Van Arsdale the sum of nine hundred dollars; to my daughter Louisa Van Arsdale the sum of nine hundred dollars; and to my son Johnathan Van Arsdale the sum of one thousand nine hundred dollars which said several legacies or sum of money I direct and order to be paid to the said legatees when my daughter Louisa becomes of age and in case the said Louisa should die before she becomes of age then said legacies shall be paid when my daughter Annie Van Arsdale becomes of age except the legacy or sum of money herein will to my son Johnathan Van Arsdale which sum of money shall be paid when he becomes of age. I value the farm on which I live and herein willed to my son James Van Arsdale worth nine thousand dollars and the farm bought of Truman Decker and herein will to my son George Van Arsdale worth six thousand dollars and my stock and farming utensils I value worth one thousand dollars ( except the stock herein willed to my wife) said stock and farming utensils of whatever name or nature are to be accepted by my sons James and George Van Arsdale for the sum herein expressed and said stock and farming utensils shall be equally decided between them. I direct that James and George Van Arsdale shall pay the above legacies and debts in the proportion of the valuation of the farms herein will to them respectively. And I direct that my sons James Van Arsdale and George Van Arsdale shall work these farms jointly untill my daughter Louisa becomes of age and in case said Louisa should die before she becomes of age then untill Annie Van Arsdale becomes of age. I order and direct that my son James Van Arsdale shall receive out of the valuation of the farm will to him one thousand four hundred dollars; and I order and direct that my son George Van Arsdale shall receive out of the valuation of the farm herein willed to him the sum of one thousand four hundred dollars. And I direct that my sons James Van Arsdale and George Van Arsdale jointly pay all debts and expenses necessary in settling my estate and if any personal property remains after paying legacies; debts; expenses I direct that said remainder shall be equally divided between my children And Lastly, I hereby appoint my son James Van Arsdale and Robert S. Stevenson executors of this my last will and testament. And I also hereby appoint my son George Van Arsdale executor when he becomes of age in the place of Robert S. Stevenson hereby appointed if legal hereby revoking all former wills by me made. In witness where of I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 9th day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight-hundred and seventy. Signed J R Van Arsdale ( crossed out) Signed again J R Van Arsdale The above instrument consisting of one sheet was at the date there of signed sealed published and declared by the said Jacob R Van Arsdale as and for his last will and testament in presence of us who at his request and in his presence and in the presence of each other have subscribed our names as witness thereto E J Schoonmaker Residing in Tyre Seneca Co NY Ambrose Easton Residing in Tyre Seneca Co NY Whereas I Jacob R. Van Arsdale of Tyre Seneca County New York have made my last will and testament in writing bearing date the ninth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy in which I neglected to say that my sons James Van Arsdale and George Van Arsdale shall pay all the taxes on my farms. Now therefor I do by this my writing which I hereby declare to be a codicil to my last will and testament and to be taken as a part thereof. And declare that my will is that my sons James Van Arsdale and George Van Arsdale shall pay all taxes on my farms. And lastly it is my desire that this codicil be annexed to and made part of my last will and testament as aforesaid to interests and purposes to witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand that this 12th day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy. Signed J R Van Arsdale ---------------------------- Surrogates Court In the Matter Of The judicial Settle't of the accts of James Van Arsdale Executor of Jacob R Van Arsdale dec'd Laura Smith, Amy C. Haney, Ellen Teller and Jane D. Mills four of the legatees named in the will of said deceased, hereby object to the accounts of said accounting Executor on the following grounds: Said Executor has erroneously charged said Estate and credited himself with the payment of $5, 054.20 as debts of said testator and with $285.65 as expenses of administration of said Estate, when such sums should have been paid by James Van Arsdale and George Van Arsdale and not by said Executor as such. Said Executor has erroneously credited himself and charged said Estate with the payments of a note to Martha B. Van Arsdale of $922.50 which should not be allowed, as the same was as these legatees are informed and believe cut off by the statute of limitations before the alleged payments thereof. The said Executor has erroneously credited himself with having paid to the widow of said testator the sum of $3860. And 1400. Which sums should have been paid by said James and George Van Arsdale and not from said estate. The said Executor has erroneously failed to account for the following property which was included in said inventory. Only he has accounted for it has erroneously turned it over to himself and George Van Arsdale to the prejudice of said objecting legatees (unreadable word): Oak Lumber 1.50 Corn $75. Top buggy 15. Bees 20. Wheat 340. Barley 40. Oats 70. Melodian 50. 91.50 415. 105 415 91.50 $611.50 And he erroneously failed to account for one watch the property of testator which was not inventoried. The said Executor has erroneously failed to account for the proceeds of said farms mentioned in the will during the time they were or should have been worked by the said James & George Van Arsdale That the said account is not made up or stated in accordance with the provisions of the will of said testator. Signed J. W. Harrmond Atty for above Varied Contestants

    09/03/2000 01:17:03
    1. Re: [VanArsdale-L] Hacked Computer System -- from <brianter@macatawa.org>
    2. Gina&Aaron Peterson
    3. George Correction John was born 06-04-1760 not David David was born 1751. -----Original Message----- From: Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard <brianter@macatawa.org> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Hacked Computer System -- from <brianter@macatawa.org> >Hello, >At some point this weekend the server we use was hacked into >and ALL e-mail intended for the Macatawa Net was "returned to >sender" ... If anyone sent anything specifically directed to >me/us (Terri Rene & Brian), please DO re-send it ... >Otherwise, at some point I will look through mailing list >archives for *stuff* I've missed. Our server's administrator >thinks someone attempted to use the MacNet to send >*objectionable* material .... I sincerely hope no one who >corresponds with us is a recipient <sigh>. > >Terri Rene DaVar-Howard > >PS I apologize for duplicates .... > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >Please LINK to this page from your own Web Site: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale>

    08/30/2000 08:52:49
    1. [VanArsdale-L] Hacked Computer System -- from <brianter@macatawa.org>
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. Hello, At some point this weekend the server we use was hacked into and ALL e-mail intended for the Macatawa Net was "returned to sender" ... If anyone sent anything specifically directed to me/us (Terri Rene & Brian), please DO re-send it ... Otherwise, at some point I will look through mailing list archives for *stuff* I've missed. Our server's administrator thinks someone attempted to use the MacNet to send *objectionable* material .... I sincerely hope no one who corresponds with us is a recipient <sigh>. Terri Rene DaVar-Howard PS I apologize for duplicates ....

    08/28/2000 07:49:42
    1. [VanArsdale-L] Fwd: [KYMERCER] Photos - Van Arsdell
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [KYMERCER] Photos - Van Arsdell Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 03:57:29 -0700 Resent-From: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 04:54:40 -0600 From: "Jan Broxterman" <jbinsure@nmia.com> To: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com The Ford & Nagle site lists two Van Arsdell photos found and available: Margaret and Mr. & Mrs. Jack, both taken at Harrodsburg. An interested party can claim them for a nominal cost, not a profit, so I've been told. http://users.erinet.com/31363/fordand.htm

    08/27/2000 03:45:26
    1. [VanArsdale-L] Joseph Culver Van Orsdel
    2. Jan Wilbur
    3. Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/52 Surname: Van Orsdel, Culver ------------------------- My grandfather, Charles Wesley Van Orsdel, had a brother, Joseph Culver Van Orsdel, born 29 Apr 1879 prob in Adams Co, PA. I found 'The History of the Low Dutch Colony of Conowago' by Rev. Dr. Demarest, copied in 1925 by Mr. & Mrs. Joseph Culver VanOrsdel, 524 West 43rd Place, Los Angeles, CA. Would like to know anything about Joseph, and maiden name of his wife.

    08/24/2000 06:44:33
    1. [VanArsdale-L] William J. Van Orsdel
    2. Jan Wilbur
    3. Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/51 Surname: Van Orsdel ------------------------- My grandfather, Charles Wesley Van Orsdel, had two brothers, William J & Joseph Culver. Found William J. in 1920 Shasta Co. CA census with wife, Helen, and children, Charles J, Alice I, Fred Wage, and Florence I. William, age 45, was born in PA; Helen, age 44, was born in MI; Charels J, age 21, b CA; Alice, age 19, b CA; Fred, age 17, b MT; Florence, age 15, b MT. Anyone have info on this family?

    08/24/2000 06:39:03
    1. [VanArsdale-L] Isaac and Abraham VanArsdale
    2. Judy Cassidy
    3. Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/50 Surname: VanArsdale, Thenosdol, Fenosdol, Dorland ------------------------- Nee information on Isaac VanArsdale bp 12 Dec. 1746 Harlingen, who was his wife and children. Also seeking fathers, husbands of Catharine, wife of John Dorland who had two sons Isaac and Abraham Dorland born after 1780 and Martha Fenosdol, Thenosdol believe to be 2nd wife of Lambert Darland, son of John. Their first son was Isaac b in 1795 and the second was Abraham born in 1795. All we know of Martha is that she was born in New Jersey in 1760(s) we know not where-according to Bible records. A Darland in Kentucky at one time had a Bible which evidently had her name as Thenosdol or Fenosdol rather than Vanosdol and that is what these ladies entered the DAR under. Believe both women are daughters of an Isaac with the father of Isaac an Abraham Van Arsdale or viseversa. Thanks

    08/24/2000 03:29:14
    1. [VanArsdale-L] Lambert Dorlands & Martha Fenosdol, Thenosdol, Vanosdol
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. To: <DARLAND-L@rootsweb.com> & <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> with the permission of Mrs. Judy Cassidy -------- Original Message -------- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:17:04 EDT From: Jamescassidy22@cs.com To: brianter@macatawa.org Recently I was rechecking the York County PA Tax Records, when I re-read a letter that Arthur Weaner attached to them. Arthur is the historian for Conowago. They are a little difficult to read as they are white on black, but I recall I kept seeing this mark at the end of Lambert Dorlands name. Lambert Dorland as you may or may not recall returned from Kentucky and is listed for the years 1787-1789 next or with his Uncle Garret Dorland in Berwick Twp. Following Lamberts name for each year is Phd. I also noticed that in the year 1789 Lambert is listed under single men. So I wrote to Arther and this is what he told me: the mark PHd following the name of Lambert Dorland in the Tax Duplicate is PHd, to mean, per head, i.e.. a flat tax, males over 21 usually not landed, single and WIDOWERS. Others on the list with the same designation , paid the same tax, i.e.. 15 shillings, 9 pence. To me this clarifies and explains the 10 year gap between son John born in 1785 and son Isaac born in 1795. As I had mentioned previously Lambert returned from Kentucky after 1783 or that year bringing with him the papers and deeds belonging to his father John which were returned to his cousin Gerrit Dorland in whose family they remained. Therefore I feel it is safe to say that Martha Fenosdol, Thenosdol, Vanosdol was his second wife and not his first. In the Darland Bible Records is stated Marthy born in the year 1760 in New Jersey, we know not where. Of course the year 1760 can cover 10 years. We also don't know whether she was the daughter of an Isaac Vanarsdal or the widow of an Isaac VanArsdale. But it seems clear to me that Lamberts first wife, the mother of John b. 1785. Judy Cassidy

    08/24/2000 02:20:08
    1. [VanArsdale-L] Re: John VanArsdall
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. Pat Frazier wrote: > HiI am A Decendant of Emma V. She Was My G-grandmother.I > have lots of info soming to present on her but only her > parents names.Can we ExchangeMy Direct LineEmma And Abraham > BantaIrvin Elsworth Banta -Dadie Ellen Mae AlbrightJoanna > Mae Banta- John Thomas WilliamsPatricia Lynn Williams-James > Edward Frazier I have only the following information about this family, from a letter posted to the Van Arsdale Genealogy Mailing List by K.V. Stanley on 05 Mar 1998: "My line is: John C. Vanarsdall b. Mercer Co Kentucky 1828 m. Elizabeth Ann Scott b. 1829. Family went to Indiana. Children Calvin, Maggie, Vinia, Sarah, Elizabeth, Emma, Josephine. Emma married Abram Banta." I will forward this note (in it's entirety) to the Van Arsdale Genealogy Mailing List <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com>. Perhaps someone on the list can be of more assistance to you. Perhaps you'd care to join the list and share your information with everyone ... it is a great group <grin>. Terri Rene DaVar-Howard NOT a descendant of John C., but an avid Van Fan

    08/21/2000 01:02:35
    1. [VanArsdale-L] Cornelius Vanausdal, b. 1783, d. 1870, Eaton, Oh
    2. John Krall
    3. Posted on: Biographies of Van Arsdale & Related Families Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdaleBios/120 Surname: Vanausdal, Bilbe, Curry, Donohoe ------------------------- Cornelius Vanausdal C. VANAUSDAL was born in Berkeley county, Virginia, Oct. 2, 1783. His ancesters [sic] were described as Ògood, honest, Christian people.Ó In 1805, before Preble county was organized he came to what is now Lanier township, and for two or three years assisted in operating a farm for his father. In 1808 he left the farm Ñ turned merchant, and started a store in Eaton; and this store, either alone or in partnership with others, he conducted without interruption till 1863, a period of fifty-five years. He was a deputy U. S. Marshal under General Cass, and in 1810 took the first census of Preble county. During the war of 1812, he was assistant paymaster in the U. S. Army and also engaged in furnishing supplies to the army operating between the Ohio River and Lake Erie. In 1819 he was elected to represent this county in the Lower House of the State Legislature and served in the session of 1819-20. >From 1828 to 1833 he was engaged in the wholesale Dry Goods business in Cincinnati, under the firm name of Vanausdal, Hatch & Gray. During a part of this period he and his family resided in New York city, and while there was engaged exclusively in the purchase of goods for his western houses Ñ both of them being then engaged in the wholesale business. It may be stated as an interesting fact that Robert Morrison, the first[,] or one of the first merchants of Richmond [Indiana], used to buy goods at the Eaton store of Mr. VANAUSDAL, Eaton being in advance of Richmond in size and age. From 1828 to 1832 he was in partnership with his brother-in-law, Judge CURRY in the pork business, in Hamilton. They also ran a canal boat, under the management of Asa Meloy as captain. In 1846 he associated with his son Isaac in a business partnership in Dayton and so remained till 1863, when he sold his interest to his son. In 1852, he associated with himself in his business at Eaton, his son Harvey and son-in-law Mr. DONOHOE. ÑIn 1863Ñhe also sold out his interest in the Eaton house to his partners and retired from general business. For many years he was also engaged in the pork business in Eaton. It might have been stated previously, that he was married on the 24th of July, 1812 Ñ to Miss Martha BILBE, with whom he lived more than fifty-eight years. ÑThe statement has been made that Òin the merchandizing business proper, he was uniformly successful and prosperous, having met with no reverses in this line.Ñ He was supported by good health and an excellent constitution Ñ it being a remarkable fact that he was not sufficiently sick to be confined to his bed a single day from 1809 to 1863, a period of more than a half century. Our young and middle aged men of the present day, who live luxuriously, and complain if they are taxed with a few hours of extra labor should study and imitate the habits and lives of VANAUSDAL and other pioneers. Ñ An allusion to the circumstances surround him when he began life in this county will not be out of place, as it is by these means that we will be enabled to look upon him in the light that he was seen by those who shared in the struggles, privations and triumphs, in the midst of which, and under the influence of which his character and qualities were developed and matured. He found when he came, unbroken forests, wild game and friendly Indians in plenty awaiting him. Those of his own race were few indeed; but they welcomed him warmly, and pioneer life was begun together, clearings were made, cabins built, and the simplest necessaries of life procured at immense toil and cost. When the county of Preble was established and organized, Eaton became the county seat. There was no store in the county. A necessity existed for one, and Cornelius VANAUSDAL, then about 25 years of age established it, little dreaming that he and his humble store were to play so important a part in the development and history of the county. Of course the store keeper became at once conspicuous, and he and his store became the county (for there was no town) talk. His reputation was not long limited to county limits, it spread until it embraced all the territory of Western Ohio and Eastern Indiana (then a territory) between the Ohio river and the lakes. ÒHis name became familiar to every man, woman and child in the county, and to every business man and enterprising Indian within a hundred miles around.Ó Among his familiar acquaintances were Tecumseh, his brother the Prophet, Honest John, Injun John and others. It was related of Indian John, that he brought his furs to the store to swap for salt. The old fashioned steelyards with long and short or light and heavy sides were used in weighing the articles involved in the trade. John had never seen steelyards before and watched the weighing closely. The light side was used in weighing the furs. When the salt was to be weighed the steelyards were turned over so as to use the heavy side. John watched this operation with suspicion, and when he saw the yard fly up when the pea was not so far from the fulcrum as when his furs were weighed, he was convinced that there was something wrong, and seizing the steelyards with an exclamation pronouncing them a lie, ran to the door and threw them as far as he could into the woods and brush. [There were several more pages of anecdote but my hand wore out.] Òdeath occurred August 10, 1870, aged nearly eighty seven years.Ó In the section on Mound Cemetery, Eaton on page 101: ÒAmong the specimens of fine work, which adorned the grounds, may be mentioned the Brooke monument and the majestic Scotch granite shaft suited to the grave of Cornelius VANAUSDAL.Ó Page 155: ÒThe first store was established by Cornelius VANAUSDAL in 1806 or 7, . . .Ó >From Preble County, Ohio Directory, 1875 compiled by B. F. Morgan held in the genealogy collection of the State Library of Indiana. Pages: 73, 75, 77, 79, 81, 83 and as indicated. All in square brackets, [ ], by JAK.

    08/21/2000 09:54:56
    1. [VanArsdale-L] [Fwd: [KYMERCER] Isaac O. VanArsdall]
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. Hi, Just trying to keep the lines of communication open ... If anyone responds to this, please type your response at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Mercer/2369 and send a copy to this list. Thanks, TR -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [KYMERCER] Isaac O. VanArsdall Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:24:21 -0700 Resent-From: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 05:38:43 -0700 From: Loren Kester <kesterle@mindspring.com> To: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Posted on: Mercer Co. Ky Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Mercer/2369 Surname: VanArsdall ------------------------- Isaac O. VanArsdall of Mercer County, Kentucky married first Ann VanArsdall. He married second Elizabeth Casady. Isaac B. VanArsdall was Isaac Brooks VanArsdall. Isaac C. VanArsdall was probably one of the sons of a Cornelius VanArsdall. Ann VanArsdall was the daughter of my fifth great grandfather. My e-mail address is: kesterle@mindspring.com ============================== Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at http://resources.rootsweb.com/

    08/21/2000 07:22:43
    1. Re: [VanArsdale-L] Roll Call
    2. Hi All, I think this roll call is a very good idea. Congrats! Thanks to Rhonda, Charlene an Bob, they have been a lot of help. I have a couple of brickwalls--maybe someone else can help? My gg-grandfather, John Vanausdoll, b.March 29,1785 in Pennsylvania (as Vanarsdalen), d.November 6,1865 in Otter Creek Twp.,Jersey Co.,Illinois(as Vanausdoll). He married Mary Pegan in 1826. She was b. June 4,1796 in Virginia, d. April 7,1872 in Otter Creek Twp,Jersey Co.,Ill. My grandfather, Caleb, was born in Butler Co,Ohio. Caleb's sister, Sarah was born approx 1832--unknown as to where, and his brother, Allen was born August 4,1839 in Monroe Co,Illinois. What I'm trying to find is info on where John was in the 41years before he got married. Was he married previously? And if so to whom? Were there any other children? I'm fairly sure he was in Bucks Co, Pa., but I'm looking for proof. It seems John moved around quite a bit. The Other brickwall--I'm searching for info on Sarah. She was living with the Pittman's in Jerseyville,Ill during 1850 census.(sp. Vanarsdall) approx 18 yrs old at that time. I don't have any other info on her. Vivian Helmantoler--Email address is vlhelma@pacbell.net. "Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard" wrote: > Anyone interested in a Roll Call? > > If *YES* then please "reply" to this e-mail, > add your surnames in the subject line, > and list your most frustrating *brickwall* ancestors with any > known dates, places, siblings, spouses, children ... > > If *NO* then please use your delete button. > > There are several new members on this list .... perhaps it > will encourage them to post something if they see the rest of > us interacting & sharing <grin>. > > Terri Rene DaVar-Howard > List Moderator > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > Please remember to cite your sources and give credit where credit is due. > JoAnn's Van Arsdale Research <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/a/m/Jo-A-Ramseyer/index.html> > Charles Vanorsdale's Descendants of Joosten van Haesdale: <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/v/a/n/Charles-R-Vanorsdale/index.html> > Bryce Stevens Van Arsdale page is at <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/Bryce-H-Stevens/> > Belle's "Van Page" is at <http://www.goodnet.com/~dmyers/belle-v.html> > Read about the Van Arsdale MYTH <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdalemyth.html> > Sharon Kelley's Van Arsdale page is at <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2679> > The Darland genealogical database has Van Arsdale data: <http://w3.one.net/~durp/database/Darland/Darland-surname.htm> > FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records.

    08/20/2000 08:21:13
    1. [VanArsdale-L] 1846 bible
    2. Meg Van Arsdale
    3. Posted on: VanArsdale Family Bible Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdaleBibl/6 Surname: Brooks, Davenport ------------------------- "Issac von Arsdale mar. Mary Brooks at Camden City New Jersey... She was dau. of John Brooks, England". One listing: Simon I. Van Arsdale, born 1772 Camden City, married 1798 to Sarah Ver Bryke, Mercer Co Ky, died Mercer Co Ky,1832. "Simon ? Van Arsdale mar. Sarah Ver Brycke in Mercer Co. Ky in 1798. She was dau. of Bernard Ver Bryke and Katrina von Ness his wife. She was born in New Jersey, Camden City in 1778 died in Mercer Co Ky in 1852." Four listings under this info [children]: Abraham, Simon, Barney, and John Brooks Van Rensslarr, born Mercer Co. Ky, married Sarah A. Davenport, July 29, 1864. The last item is "[born] June 1811 - [married]1841 Kentucky - [died] Frankfort Ky". "John Brooks Van R. Van Arsdale mar. Sarah Ann Davenport at Crab Orchard Springs Ky on Oct. 4, 1841. She was dau. of Richard Davenport and Elizabeth Tadlock his wife. She was born at Denville Ky on Aug 7, 1817 died at Louisville Ky on March 19, 1898." There are no listings under this information.

    08/20/2000 02:49:32
    1. Re: [VanArsdale-L] Roll Call
    2. R.W. VanArsdale
    3. My Brickwall is Henry Isaac VanArsdale(n) born in 1798 and died in 1834 , both in Somerset Co. New Jersey. He was married(Nov. 29, 1827)to Sophia Galtry Brown B.?,D 1870 . They had one son John Henry B.July 1832(NJ) D.August 27 1922,Wichita Ks. It would appear that Sophia bought land in central Ill. after Henry I. died and went to live there with young JH in June 1835. I need to find who Henry I.'s parents are . Thank you Rick

    08/19/2000 06:41:25
    1. Re: [VanArsdale-L] Roll Call
    2. Gina&Aaron Peterson
    3. The only info. I have on my VanArsdale mistery is Christopher was living in Gibson Co IN in 1822-23 & attented an estate sale of Azariah Ayers.Azariah's wife Mary is believed to have been a VanArsdale as well. I do not know the connection?! Azariah was born abt. 1774 in PA or NJ. He & Mary lived in IN & KY (Gibson & Mercer) Need more info!! I would be GREATFUL for any leads!!! Mary later remarried a man by the last name of Dimmick.(In Gibson Co.IN. Gina -----Original Message----- From: Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard <brianter@macatawa.org> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 2:37 PM Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Roll Call >Anyone interested in a Roll Call? > >If *YES* then please "reply" to this e-mail, >add your surnames in the subject line, >and list your most frustrating *brickwall* ancestors with any >known dates, places, siblings, spouses, children ... > > >If *NO* then please use your delete button. > >There are several new members on this list .... perhaps it >will encourage them to post something if they see the rest of >us interacting & sharing <grin>. > >Terri Rene DaVar-Howard >List Moderator > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >Please remember to cite your sources and give credit where credit is due. >JoAnn's Van Arsdale Research <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/a/m/Jo-A-Ramseyer/index.html> >Charles Vanorsdale's Descendants of Joosten van Haesdale: <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/v/a/n/Charles-R-Vanorsdale/index.html> >Bryce Stevens Van Arsdale page is at <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/Bryce-H-Stevens/> >Belle's "Van Page" is at <http://www.goodnet.com/~dmyers/belle-v.html> >Read about the Van Arsdale MYTH <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdalemyth.html> >Sharon Kelley's Van Arsdale page is at <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2679> >The Darland genealogical database has Van Arsdale data: <http://w3.one.net/~durp/database/Darland/Darland-surname.htm> >FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records.

    08/18/2000 04:35:15
    1. Re: [VanArsdale-L] Roll Call -- diabetes
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. I have wondered why the software we all use doesn't have a better way to record family illnesses ... > Thank you for adding your information to my list. You are welcome, TR

    08/18/2000 11:17:43
    1. [VanArsdale-L] [Fwd: [KYMERCER] VAN ARSDALE & JAMES]
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [KYMERCER] VAN ARSDALE & JAMES Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:24:31 -0700 Resent-From: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:19:47 -0700 From: ERIC JAMES <ericjames@ericjames.org> To: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Posted on: Mercer Co. Ky Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Mercer/2364 Surname: Van Arsdale, James ------------------------- Does anyone have the Van Arsdale ancestors, descendants, & information relating to this family? 1 Dwight Van Arsdall / .. +Margaret Lightfoot "Maggie" James 1859 - 1889 b: July 04, 1859 in McAfee's Mill, Mercer Co KY m: 1880 in Mercer Co KY d: May 06, 1889 b: July 04, 1859 in McAfee's Mill, Mercer Co KY Link: STRAY LEAVES, A JAMES FAMILY IN AMERICA, 1650-2000 A.D. URL: <http://www.ericjames.org> ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/

    08/18/2000 11:15:31
    1. [VanArsdale-L] [Fwd: [KYMERCER] Cornelius C. Vanarsdall]
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [KYMERCER] Cornelius C. Vanarsdall Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:24:07 -0700 Resent-From: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:07:40 -0700 From: "Donald T. Van Arsdale" <muscoevannooe@peoplepc.com> To: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Posted on: Mercer Co. Ky Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Mercer/2362 Surname: Vanarsdall, VanArsdall, Van Arsdale ------------------------- Hi Pat, Unfortunately I know very little about Cornelius C. Vanarsdall. Most of my searches have been directed along the lines of Cornelius O. Vanarsdall. As you no doubt know, both "C" and "O" are buried at the Old Mud Meeting House Cemetery in Mercer County. I have an e-mail "pen pal" who I believe is quite an authority regarding Cornelius C. Her name is Linda, and her address is linhayes@interl.net. I suspect that Linda would be quite pleased to hear from you, and that she may be able to provide you with some meaningful information. Good luck and happy hunting! Don Van Arsdale ============================== Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

    08/18/2000 11:13:04
    1. Re: [VanArsdale-L] Roll Call
    2. Helen Long
    3. Marsha, I posted a more complete list of my ancestors earlier this afternoon. I hope you got to see it. I hope somebody links to my Vans. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Marsha Tate <mtate@libby.rbls.lib.il.us> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Roll Call >This message, too, bounced so I'm trying again. Marsha > >On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Marsha Tate wrote: > >> Helen, >> >> Thank you for sharing your family information. As far as we know, >> Nathaniel's three daughters and their children escaped the disease but >> four of his great-grandchildren and three of his great-great-grandchildren >> are diabetic. >> >> I realize we won't be able to find "cause of death: diabetes" much farther >> back then the people you and I have mentioned. However, I would be >> interested to learn who your grandfather's VanAusdle ancesters were as a >> clue that might help me link Levi and family to the rest of the Vans. >> >> Marsha >> >> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Helen Long wrote: >> >> > Marsha, >> > My grandfather Isaac VanAusdle was a diabetic, as was my mother and >> > myself. >> > >> > Helen >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Marsha Tate <mtate@libby.rbls.lib.il.us> >> > To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Date: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:41 PM >> > Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Roll Call >> > >> > >> > >Oops! >> > > >> > >In my excitement to agree with Terri's idea I forgot to send my >> > >information. >> > > >> > >My "brick wall" is finding the parents of Levi VanArsdale, a blacksmith, >> > >born ca1800 Drakesville/Chester, Morris County, NJ. He married 1) Abigail >> > >Goble ca1825 and they had a son, Abner G. who also became a Master >> > >blacksmith with several apprentices including his young half-brother, >> > >Nathaniel Horton VanArsdale (my g-g-grandfather). Grandpa Nathaniel's >> > >mother was AnnEliza Horton, whom Levi married in the Chester, Morris >> > >County area on Sept. 26, 1833. Nathaniel was born in March, 1838. >> > > >> > >To confuse the issue there are TWO Nathaniel H. VanArsdales: my >> > >g-g-grandfather and Nathaniel Hixson Van Arsdale... and they were BOTH >> > >born in 1838... >> > > >> > >I do have one clue that may help one of y'all :-} make the link: several >> > >weeks ago I asked the list if any of their Vans had diabetes in their >> > >line. Linda Hayes of the Cornelius C. Vanarsdall, born February 15, 1766 >> > >line, was the only one who answered with a "yes". If none of the rest of >> > >you have diabetes (a cruel, inherited disease)in your Van lines, then Levi >> > >and family MUST somehow be connected to Linda's Cornelius C. >> > > >> > >Thanks for the great idea, Terri! >> > > >> > >Marsha Tate >> > >mtate@libby.rbls.lib.il.us >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >> > >Search the VanArsdale CLUSTER for VANARSDALE (V562) at ROOTSWEB (links to >> > most VanArsdale data available from Rootsweb) >> > ><http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/v/a/VANARSDALE/> >> > > >> > >> > >> > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >> > Please remember to cite your sources and give credit where credit is due. >> > JoAnn's Van Arsdale Research <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/a/m/Jo-A-Ramseyer/index.html> >> > Charles Vanorsdale's Descendants of Joosten van Haesdale: <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/v/a/n/Charles-R-Vanorsdale/index.html> >> > Bryce Stevens Van Arsdale page is at <http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/e/Bryce-H-Stevens/> >> > Belle's "Van Page" is at <http://www.goodnet.com/~dmyers/belle-v.html> >> > Read about the Van Arsdale MYTH <http://www.macatawa.org/~brianter/vanarsdalemyth.html> >> > Sharon Kelley's Van Arsdale page is at <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/2679> >> > The Darland genealogical database has Van Arsdale data: <http://w3.one.net/~durp/database/Darland/Darland-surname.htm> >> > FLOOR: (n) The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. >> > >> > >> >> > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >Please LINK to this page from your own Web Site: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale> >

    08/18/2000 11:12:33
    1. [VanArsdale-L] [Fwd: [KYMERCER] Old Mud Meeting House Cemetery]
    2. Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard
    3. Please reply to the URL given below. I do not believe this person is a member of this list. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [KYMERCER] Old Mud Meeting House Cemetery Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:24:22 -0700 Resent-From: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:58:23 -0700 From: Pat Durham <padurham@kih.net> To: KYMERCER-L@rootsweb.com Posted on: Mercer Co. Ky Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Mercer/2361 Surname: Vanarsdale, Terhune, Thornton, Glasscock ------------------------- Hello Donald, I have a gggrandmother Vanarsdall buried in Old Mud Meeting House Cemetery in Mercer Co.Ky. Her name is Elizabeth Catherine V.Terhune b.12/4/1827, d.7/14/1862, m.ca.1846 Barnett Terhune. I feel that her parents were Cornelius C. and Mary Vanderipe, but have not been able to document this. Have you any knowledge of these people? Any information will be greatly appreciated. ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/

    08/18/2000 11:09:00