Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/10085 Surname: Vanartsdalen ------------------------- If Rachel is 67 in 1850, and Jacob was born in 1803, she would have been old enough to have been his mother. One Van researcher I met who had done some research on this line told me she thought that Jacobs father Christopher died young. Its a possibility that they are the same Rachel. We need more information. I am trying to get ahold of a census for the Bucks County area for 1810 to see if I can find Jacob. I have often wondered why I love to travel, but now I see that the dutch are nomadic. It must be in my dna.

Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/10084 Surname: Van Artsdalen ------------------------- Linda, On page 914 of the Licking Co, Franklin Twp, OH 1850 census, there is a John Vanosdal or Vanosdol list on the very bottom of the page. He was a miller, born in PA. His wife's name is not legible. They live in house #45, family #46 At the very top of the next page there is listed a Rachel, age about 67, and a Mikial, appears to be about 25, but there is no surname attached to these two names, so one might assume they are Vans. However, they live in house #46, Family 47. I have thought that Rachel could be John's mother, or even grandmother, but I have no proof whatsoever, and can't find any other records on Rachel or Mikial. I have not been able to find the parents of John, or his death date or place (but after 1901) either. Do you think these two Rachels could be the same person? Barb Johnson barbJ@prodigy.net

Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/10082 Surname: Van Artsdalen ------------------------- 1. CHRISTOPHER VAN ARTSDALEN He married RACHEL. Child of CHRISTOPHER VAN ARTSDALEN and RACHEL is: 2. i. JACOB VAN ARTSDALEN, b. Abt. February 1803, Bucks County, Pennsylvania; d. October 27, 1886, Cape May County, Dennisville NJ. 2. JACOB2 VAN ARTSDALEN (CHRISTOPHER1)1 was born Abt. February 1803 in Bucks County, Pennsylvania1, and died October 27, 1886 in Cape May County, Dennisville NJ1. He married ELIZABETH KIPLE GEARY1. She was born 1823 in Bucks County Pennsylvania1, and died April 11, 1892 in Collingdale, Pennsylvania1. Both are buried in Cedar Hill Cemetery in Philadelphia. Christoper and Rachel are my dead end. So I am trying a reverse approach. I am going to see if I can get any information on Vans in Bucks County in the 1700's and 1800's. If you have any Van Artsdalens who are from this time frame in Bucks County pennsylvania, please send me the info. Better yet, if you know who Christoper and Rachel are let me know, but I think that's a long shot.

Can I ask what??? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karol Stanley" <stanlekv@erinet.com> To: <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [VanArsdale-L] Fw: William Sunderland (1) and (2) of Montgo. Co. Ohio > Thanks, Barb - this is indeed confusing!!! And it totally discredits > what little confirmed facts we have on these families. I'll have to > study this for awhile and try to sort it out and get back to all. What > list was this on? > Sasha > > > ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== > Search the VanArsdale CLUSTER for VANARSDALE (V562) at ROOTSWEB (links to most VanArsdale data available from Rootsweb) > <http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/v/a/VANARSDALE/> >

Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/10081 Surname: Tuenis Vanarsdale ------------------------- Has anyone on the list heard of Tuenis Vanarsdale? I know he was in New York during the revolutionary war had a brother John who is referenced in the book Evacuation Day 1783 by James Riker. I have undocumented information that his father was John Vanarsdale b:1729 married Deborah Vanpelt. Grandfather was Stoffel Vanarsdale married to Magdalena Van Hengelen. If anyone has info they would be willing to share It would be greatly appreciated.

MRShriners@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > I was so happy to find your information under "Michael's & Matthew's > > Ancestors concerning the Van Arsdall/Van Arsdalen Family. Just now I > was > checking it out again to recommend it to a relative working on the > same line > of that family. To my disappointment, it tells me that it has been > withdrawn > .There are many sites for this family.However, we come from Ida Van > Arsdalen > and her husband; John Houtz. Your ID 105190 placed her into a definite > > family. The records you found used the spelling "Johan Honts". We > have run > into this spelling before and are sure it is out ancestor. We also > were sure > that this Ida was a daughter of Cornelius but with dozens of men named > > Cornelius Van Arsdalen we had no idea which was our Ida's father. Your > > records gave us that information and we were able to trace the family > back > farther using other web sites.It is a difficult family to trace.For > generations, they have used the same names for children in every > generation. > I am wondering if you plan to return this material to the net. It > surely > was a find for us and we would appreciate it being returned. > Christina Houtz 1782-1807 was a daughter of Ida and John. She > married > Rudolph Spangler Sr.. They were my g-g-g-g-grandparents. I'm doing > "trees" > for my children and grandchildren and would like to assemble as many > of > their ancestors as possible. Thank you so much for sharing your > research with > others who descend from this family. Fred and Lucille Shriner Yes, I will be returning it as soon as I have cleared some errors. Unfortunately I no longer have the data you want as I deleted some of the family branches when my database become too large (sorry). You may want to conduct a search of the older e-mail letters sent to the VanArsdale Mailing List <http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames/v/a/VANARSDALE/>. In the meantime, I will forward your letter to the Van Arsdale Genealogy Mailing List <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> as much of my information came from there and you may well find a cousin or two amongst those who respond to your letter .... Terri Rene

----- Original Message ----- From: <ljbunch@juno.com> To: <acer@uswest.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: Vanarsdel > Hi Sharon, > My name is Linda Bunch, I am trying to find information on my mothers > side of the family. So far I have hit nothing but brick walls. I > haven't been able to find out anything past Joseph Franklin Vanarsdel, > born abt. 1835, wife Elizabeth Simmons. He was born, according to family > members, in Indiana. I am related to him through his son, Joseph Franklin > Vanarsdel b. 1855, buried in Tulsa, Okla. His wife was Malinda Jane > Speake. Most of Joseph Franklin's children lived in the Tulsa area. If > you find any connection, I would be glad to share the info I have. Linda >

Don't know what happened. Sorry.......I'll try again. Lucy

Some records pertaining to Caleb Vanausdol, Jasper County, Indiana: The first record found for Caleb Vanausdol was the 1840 Federal Census, Mad River Township, Champaign County, Ohio, listing Caleb as age 40 to 50, probable wife age 30 to 40, and nine children, five boys and four girls. We believe that we can identify all but two of those listed in this census. Caleb Male 40 - 50 Elizabeth Female 30 - 40 Hamilton Male Under 5 Talitha Female Under 5 John H. Male 05 - 10 Margaret Female 05 - 10 Andrew Male 10 - 15 Nancy Female 10 - 15 Cornelius Male 15 - 20 Missing are one female, ages 5- 10, and one male, ages 15 -20. Harriet would have been married at this time to John A. Kenton. The next record we found were land records in Jasper County, Indiana, for Caleb Vanausdol: (1) W1/2, NW1/4, Section 36, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM, 80 acres, registered 14 December 1840 (2) SENE, Section 23, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM, 40 acres, registered 18 October 1843 (3) SWNW, Section 24, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM, 40 acres, registered 18 October 1843 All of the above were BLM/GLO patents whose certificates were issued 01 August 1844. These land records would preclude this being the Caleb Vanausdol having died in Champaign County, Ohio, in 1841as reported by some. We find a marriage record for an Elizabeth Vanausdol marrying a Silas Thrailkill in LaGrange County, Indiana, 30 June 1850. Silas Thrailkill was long time resident of Greenfield Township, LaGrange County, with the history of the county showing him as a resident in 1832. BLM/GLO records show he received land patents in 1833 for 80 acres, 1835 for 40 acres, and 1837 for 40 acres. The Census of 1850 Greenfield Township, LaGrange County, Indiana shows: Thrailkill, Silas Age 51 Farmer Born VA Thrailkill, Elizabeth Age 49 Born VA Valuation: $1,200 Vanausdol, Corelius Age 25 Farmer Born VA Vanausdol, Andrew Age 23 Born VA Vanausdol, Margaret Age 18 Born VA Vanausdol, John H. Age 16 Farmer Born VA Vanausdol, Talitha Age 12 Born OH Vanausdol, Caleb Age 9 Born OH Note that the children referenced match those known for Caleb Vanausdol in an estate settlement in 1859. For the 1850 Census of Newton Township, Jasper County, Indiana, we find: John A. Kenton Age 30 Born OH Farmer Value: $2,000 Harriet Kenton Age 29 Born VA Elizabeth Kenton Age 08 Born IN Minerva J. Kenton Age 06 Born IN Harvey Kenton Age 03 Born IN Franklin Kenton Age 01 Born IN Hamilton Van Arsedol Age 13 Born IN On 02 November 1859 an Indenture in the Jasper County Land Book, Page 435 John H. Vanausdol of Clinton County, Iowa to John A. Kenton warrants for $250.00 the following real estate: W1/2, NW1/4, Section 36, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM. On 17 April 1867 John Vanausdol filed suit in Johnson County, Kansas, against John A. Kenton to answer the action on a promissary note for $250.00 dated Nov. 2nd 1859 and due 12 months from that date with legal interest from maturity. This land is identical to that patented by Caleb Vanausdol. As an added note on 17 April 1867 John H. Vanausdol filed suit in Johnson County, Kansas, against John A. Kenton to answer the action on a promissary note for $250.00 dated Nov. 2nd 1859 and due 12 months from that date with legal interest from maturity. The Jasper County Deed Book 16 Nov 1859 Pages 570 & 571 records that John A. Kenton sold to Wm. J. LaRue & John W. LaRue for $5,000.00: (1) SE1/4, Section 27, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM, 160 acres (2) SW1/4, Section 36, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM, 160 acres (3) W1/2, NW1/4, Section 36, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM, 80 acres (4) SENE, Section 23, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM, 40 acres (5) SW1/4, NW1/4, Section 24, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM, 40 acres Items 1 and 2 are John A. Kenton land and and items 3, 4, and 5 are the Vanausdol land patents. An Estate Settlement from the Jasper County, Indiana, Deed Book Pages 468 & 469 on 08 December 1859, land from Estate of John H. Vanausdol, Clinton County, IA, located in Jasper County, Indiana, described as W1/2, NW1/4, Section 36, Twp. 30N, Range 7W, 2nd PM, 80 acres was listed with the following names: Silas Thrailkill, Elizabeth Thrailkill Cornelius Vanausdol Andrew Vanausdol Sarah Vanausdol Hamilton Vanausdol David Denny, Margaret Denny Adam Miller, Janey Miller Barkley Foster, Jane Foster John A. Kenton George W. Soper, Lelitha Soper Those from the 1850 Lagrange Count census matching the estate settlement were Silas and Elizabeth Thrailkill, Cornelius Vanausdol, Andrew Vanausdol, Margaret Vanausdol (married to David Denny 23 March 1858 in Cedar County, Iowa), John H. Vanausdol (handling the settlement); Talitha Vanausdol (married to George W. Soper 15 March 1855 in Cedar County, Iowa). Those from the estate settlement not matching the census were Sarah Vanausdol, Janey [Nancy?] (married to Adam Miller), John A. Kenton (Husband of Harriet Vanausdol who was deceased at the time of the settlement), Hamilton Vanausdol (listed as living with John A. Kenton in the 1850 Jasper County census),and, Jane Vanausdol (married to Barkley Foster). Neither Caleb Vanausdol from the LaGrange County census nor Sarah Vanausdol from the estate settlement have been found in other records. The 1867 suit filed by John H. Vanausdol against John A. Kenton in Kansas indicates indicates that John H. Vanausdol was the administrator of the Estate being handled and that it was not the Estate of John. This with other information indicate that several of the Vanausdol children had moved to Iowa prior to 1855. >From the 1870 census for Cedar County, Iowa, we known that Cornelius Vanausdol was living with George Soper and his wife Talitha Vanausdol, his sister. As for what happened to Caleb and when he died we have no idea. It is possible he died in Champaign County, Ohio. Based on the dates of the land purchases in Jasper County he was alive in 1843. No will or estate settlement has been found at this time though from the estate settlement he may have died intestate with John H. Vanausdol being named administrator. It is logical to conclude that John A. Kenton took over operation of the farming after the death of Caleb between 1844 and 1850 and would handle the land transaction since he was the only one living in Jasper County at the time of the settlement. The reason for the estate settlement may have been that John Kenton was selling his own land at the time for his move to Johnson County, Kansas, in 1860.

I heard from others that it was hit by hackers over the weekend -----Original Message----- From: Brian & Terri Rene (DaVar) Howard [mailto:brianter@macatawa.org] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 7:09 AM To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VanArsdale-L] http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ ..... Hit by Hackers? We have noticed that the link we have to "the Federal land title records for the Eastern Public Land States, issued between 1820 and 1908" has a horrible picture and the statement "Owned by PoisonBox" instead of the land records. ....Having been off-line for a couple of months, I am wondering if this has been noticed and perhaps there is a new/different URL for the land record page..... one I haven't heard of as I've been *gone* .... ??? Terri Rene DaVar-Howard ==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== Search the VanArsdale CLUSTER for VANARSDALE (V562) at ROOTSWEB (links to most VanArsdale data available from Rootsweb) <http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/v/a/VANARSDALE/>

My Conowago records show that there were two baptisms for the year 1770: May 27, 1770 - VanArsdalen __________ and ____________Peterse bp Peter and the witnesses were Peter Peterson and Eliza Peterson These baptisms appear in the Somerset County Historical Quarterly pg 270 Vo. 4. Van Arsdalen, John and Neltie Peterson bp Isaac. Peter the son of Isaac Van Arsdale and Hannah and is mentioned in the Court Documents in Mercer County Circuit Court case of Simon Vanarsdalen vs Barnabus Smock. The three children of Hannah and Isaac were: Sarah, John and Peter and they were minors at the time of their parents death. Hannah and Neeltje were sisters. Also who is Peter and Eliza Peterson? Hannah and Neeltje's brother or parents. Judy Cassidy

Could someone please help this query and send a copy of the reply to this list? It is still *tax time* and I am very swamped ... Terri Rene (Thanks) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Van Arsdalen Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:10:15 EST From: MAHEY@aol.com To: brianter@macatawa.org Dear Sir: I am writing in hopes you may assist me in tracing the descendants of Isaac Van Arsdalen and his wife, Margaretha Elizabeth Arnold. Isaac was christened 27 May 1770 in the Reformed Church at Conewago, York Co., PA. The record does not indicate the names of his parents. They may be John and Neltije (Peterson) Van Arsdalen. As shown by the York Co. census of 1800, Isaac had married prior to that year. The census record indicates one male 26 to 45, one female 26 to 45, and one female under 10. I have found no record of the family after this 1800 census record. Margaretha Elizabeth Arnold was the daughter of Peter and Margaretha Arnold of York Co. Peter came to Pennsylvania in 1751 from Germany. He first settled in the Montgomery/Berks Co. area, but in the 1760s purchased a farm in Warrington Township, York Co., where he died in 1795. All of his children and their spouses are named in his will, including daughter Margaretha Elizabeth and her husband, Isaac Van Arsdalen. Margareth Elizabeth may have been a bit older than Isaac, since she was christened in 1767, in the Lower Bermudian Union Church, York Co. (now Adams Co.) PA. She was confirmed in the same church in 1787. If you have any information that may shed light on the descendants of Isaac and Margaretha Elizabeth (Arnold) Van Arsdalen, I would be most grateful. I am descended from Peter Arnold through his son, George, a brother of Margaretha Elizabeth Arnold. Sincerely, John A. Mahey 6212 Spring Knoll Drive Harrisburg, PA 17111

We have noticed that the link we have to "the Federal land title records for the Eastern Public Land States, issued between 1820 and 1908" has a horrible picture and the statement "Owned by PoisonBox" instead of the land records. ....Having been off-line for a couple of months, I am wondering if this has been noticed and perhaps there is a new/different URL for the land record page..... one I haven't heard of as I've been *gone* .... ??? Terri Rene DaVar-Howard

I ran across the following brief note in the Friday, August 5, 1881 edition of the Carlisle, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania paper "The Valley Sentinel". I'll try to reproduce it here exactly as it was printed in the paper. Mrs. Fletcher Vanorsdel, of Clear Creek Sta- tion, Saunders county, Neb., is visiting her mother, Mrs. Jacob Zug, in Mt. Holly. She has been in very delicate health. I found the following marker inscriptions for Mrs. "V", her parents and a brother recorded at the Cumberland County Historical Society as being in the Mt. Holly Springs Cemetery in Mt. Holly Springs, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. "VAN ORSDEL, Kate C. Zug, wife of F. Van Orsdel, d. Feb. 17, 1883 aged 35-3-13" "ZUG, Jacob B., July 11, 1877 aged 56-5-0" "ZUG, Elizabeth C., wife of Jacob B. Zug, d. Dec. 18, 1884 aged 64-5-6" "ZUG, John Carey, son of Jacob and Elizabeth Zug, Jan. 17, 1850 - Mar. 12, 1856" There are several other Zugs in this cemetery, but I'm not able to connect them to Jacob and Elizabeth at this point. I don't know anything about Fletcher Vanorsdel so I'm hopeful this information will help other Van researchers. Chuck Vanasdalan Carlisle, PA

Looking for Edith VanArsdale b.1882, m. Howard Sharpley (1881-1957). They lived in the Philadelphia PA area. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Joyce Sharpley TASJCS@AOL.com

Posted on: Van Arsdale Obituaries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdaleObits/10031 Surname: VanAusdal ------------------------- Obituary of Isaac Sydney VanAusdal (James Madison VanAusdal, Peter Monfort VanAusdal, John VanAusdal, Christopher Cornelius Gennet Van Arsdallen, John (Jan) Van Arsdalen, Symon Jansen Van Arsdalen) from the "Eaton Register-Herald:" Isaac Sydney, son of James Madison and Martha Kitson VanAusdal, was born near WestAlexandria, Ohio, on December 31, 1850, and departed this life October 3, 1935 at the advanced age of 84 years, 9 months and 3 days. On March 19, 1880 he was united in marriage with Mary Elizabeth P{ickett of near Richmond, Indiana. This marriage was broken by the death of his wife 6 years ago after nearly one half century of companionship. This union was blessed with five children - James P. at home, Mrs Eva B. Geeting of San Benito, Texas, Mrs. Theresa V. Ervin of Campbellstown, Ohio, Arthur S. of Eaton and Amy D. at home who with nine grandchildren and one greatgrandchild, survive to mourn his passing. He was the last surviving member of his family. As a young man he studied medicine, graduating from the Eclectic College of Cincinnati, Ohio. After practicing for a few yers he quit on account of temporary ill-health and spent the rest of his life in farming. He was of a quiet and studious disposition, taking a great interest in literature and art and during his younger years greatly enjoyed traveling. He was a great lover of his home and family and while he never became a member of any church organization he was a firm believer in the teachings of the Bible which he greatly loved to study. While he had been in failing health for several years his condition was not regarded as serious until a few days before his death. He was a good neighbor and friend and will be greatly missed by many relatives and friends as will as by his bereaved family. "I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die."

Charles, Please forgive me for taking so long to say thank you for the outstanding way in which you featured the story about my gr-uncle, 1st Lieut. Robert Cornelius VanArsdale. It was quite a surprise to see our picture on the Vanguard cover and I will have to admit........rather a nice feeling. The ceremony in and of itself was impressive according to the feedback. I just happened to be the first person in our organization to have done this sort of thing and it has inspired a few more people to go ahead and do what they had been planning to "when they had time". You know how that goes. So if they needed a little inspiration....I suppose this service did it because two more people have ordered monuments. It is not an easy task but you know what they say: Anything worth doing is worth doing well and I will go further and add "not always easy either". And losing your life at a very young age has to be the worst. So no one should complain about a little work getting a program together. The cemetery was in the country and word gets around fast about a "happening" and people came out in droves and I am so happy that they did. I do hope that he (RCV) was looking down from above and saying........"God Bless Them All For Remembering". Our Vanguard is probably the best family genealogy publication I have ever seen and to do a good job takes time. I am sure you have helpers but I know it is your leadership that makes the difference. Again, thank you for doing what you do........so well. Cousin Lucy Lamar Blailock Swinney p.s. Sorry I had to reply on another Van's mail but my computer "crashed" about 2 months ago......and took all my e-mail addresses and "favorite" websites with it. I suppose by now we have all experienced that awful defrag-quick-restore thing. What a headache! My husband says if I would do that about every month or two, I would never have that problem. Charles, one more thing. Do you have extra copies of the December 2000 issues of the Vanguard? I would like to give my grand-daughters an issue and the UDC would like one to put in their archives and present one to the SCV in appreciation of their participation. If you have 6, I'll pay all the costs, etc. I would appreciate your letting me know......at your convenience. Lucy -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Vanorsdale <vanorsdale@tshickman.com> To: VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com <VanArsdale-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:06 AM Subject: [VanArsdale-L] Van Arsdale Common Ancestor >Posted on: VanArsdale Queries >Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/10078 > >Surname: Van Arsdale >------------------------- > >Peter, >This is old and incorrect information. > >Sijmon Jansz van Aersdalen was born either late 1627 or early 1628 in >Nukerke, East Flanders, Belgium, where he was baptized in February 1628. >He >moved to Holland with his family around 1648. He left Amsterdam in 1653. >He >married Pieteje Claese van Schouw (not Wyckoff) around 1656; she was his >second wife. They had 6 children (Cornelis, Jan, Geertje, Metje, Jannetje, >and Marretje, the last of whom apparently died young). > >Cornelis Simonsz and brother Jan Simonsz both had eleven children, although >only 10 of Cornelis' have been identified. Cornelis' first wife was Aeltje >Willemse van Kouwenhoven by whom he had one daughter. > >Charles R. Vanorsdale > > > > >==== VanArsdale Mailing List ==== >GenConnect USA Visitors Center <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/usaindex.html> >GenConnect Global Surname Search <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi?search>

Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/10079 Surname: VanAusdal ------------------------- I am seeking information on Katherine VanAusdal, b.9/22/1895, Dayton, OH; d.5/26/1961, San Diego, CA; m. 7/18/1917, Dayton, OH to my uncle, Capt. William A. Teasley, USN (Ret.)

Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/10078 Surname: Van Arsdale ------------------------- Peter, This is old and incorrect information. Sijmon Jansz van Aersdalen was born either late 1627 or early 1628 in Nukerke, East Flanders, Belgium, where he was baptized in February 1628. He moved to Holland with his family around 1648. He left Amsterdam in 1653. He married Pieteje Claese van Schouw (not Wyckoff) around 1656; she was his second wife. They had 6 children (Cornelis, Jan, Geertje, Metje, Jannetje, and Marretje, the last of whom apparently died young). Cornelis Simonsz and brother Jan Simonsz both had eleven children, although only 10 of Cornelis' have been identified. Cornelis' first wife was Aeltje Willemse van Kouwenhoven by whom he had one daughter. Charles R. Vanorsdale

Posted on: VanArsdale Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/VanArsdale/10077 Surname: VanArsdal, Brooks, Van Bryk ------------------------- I am thinking that Brooks may be the English version of VanBryk and if that is true perhaps the sarah Van Bryk who married Simon in Mercer Co KY in 1798, might be related for Mary. Judy