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    1. [VANAMAN] Clayton D Vanama, b 1851 PA, died in St Augustine, St Johns county, Florida in 1924
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BarbaraCox147 Surnames: Vanaman Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.vanaman/130/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bio from Jacksonville Florida Times Union obit of 22 May 1924 and FL death record: Clayton Douglas Vanaman was born 18 May 1851 in Auburn, Pennsylvania. He died in St Augustine Florida on 21 May 1924. CD Vanaman, a valued railway employee- an engineer for the F.E.C. Railway passed away at his home at Saragossa st at an early hour of the morning due to a sever form of heart trouble. He came to St Augustine in 1885, and was employed by the Florida East Coast Railway on Nov 19th of the same year. He has been in the constant service of the road since that time, holding positions of master mechanic, and road foreman of engines. Burial will take place in Binghamton, Broome co., NY. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    01/20/2015 11:04:20
    1. [VANAMAN] Luke Vanaman 1789-1859
    2. Stephanie Heyer
    3. Hi, I am looking for any information on Luke Vanaman (my 4th great grandfather) b 1789 in New Jersey, married to Ann Hewitt in 1812 in New Jersey, and he died in 1859 in Pennsylvania. I cannot find any information on his parents and their link to the original Vanaman settlers. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Sent from my iPod

    11/12/2012 04:34:04
    1. [VANAMAN] Looking for Jacob Vanaman
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Patricia_Helene Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.vanaman/129/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Trying to find the family of Jacob Vanaman, b. 20 Jun 1799, Maurice River Twp., Cumberland Co., NJ; m. Anna Parsons Budd (1803-1909)in 1821. I know of sons, Jacob, Jr., Francis L., and Benjamin F. I think there are more. Specifically interested in Jacob, Jr. and wife, Kate Forrest, b. in Ireland 1838. She lived in Phila. in 1880 with son Frank and niece, Jennie Forrest - Jacob has died by then - wondering if he died in civil war as did his brothers, Francis and Benjamin. Also wondering if there is a relationship between this family and Civil War vet Theodore J. Vannaman. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    02/15/2012 08:16:56
    1. Re: [VANAMAN] Early census records
    2. Judy Lock
    3. I have Charles VANAMAN, born 1798 Millville, Cumberland County, New Jersey, died aft. 1850, New Jersey, married to Margaret FISHER, born abt. 1807, Cumberland County, New Jersey, married 7 FEB 1827, Cumberland County, New Jersey (H. Stanley Craig, Cumberland County New Jersey Marriages, 1740-1910, page 86). Children: Isaac Abram Levina Charles M., my line Louisa Frances Jane Margaret Charles M. VANAMAN, born 1835 Cumberland County, New Jersey, died 30 JUL 1880, Cumberland County, New Jersey, married Mary Elizabeth SAUL, born 7 AUG 1849 New Jersey, died 12 JAN 1890 Millville, Cumberland, County, New Jersey. Charles and Mary were married 22 AUG 1868 Cumberland County, New Jersey (Cumberland County Marriage Records County Clerk's Records-Book B page 215). Mary Elizabeth SAUL, daughter of George Cake SAUL and Phebe Townsend SOUDER/S, granddaughter of Frederick SAUL & Elizabeth SHARP, great granddaughter of Heinrich SAUL & Catharina Maria CARMAN/KIRMAN, great great granddaughter of Marcus KIRMAN & Maria Elizabeth OTTO, (daughter of Bodo OTTO & Anna Elizabeth SAUCKEN). Dr. Bodo OTTO served at Valley Forge with George WASHINGTON as a surgeon (NSDAR Patriot) I can't seem to get past Charles VANAMAN, born 1798 married to Margaret FISHER. Any help appreciated. Judy -----Original Message----- From: vanaman-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vanaman-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Wood Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:53 AM To: vanaman Subject: [VANAMAN] Early census records Hi Everyone! Just thought that I'd mention that there is a project underway to locate and transcribe all the early Van Norman; Van Name; Van Immen; etc. families from the early U.S. census returns, 1790 - 1840. You can see the main part of the project, which (hopefully) covers all the Van Norman variants, posted at the Van Norman website: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vnfa/ Click on the Research tab, then the Early census link..... There are only a few of the early other variants listed to date, but I hope to slowly add to it until it is complete. At the moment, it is listed in a simple alphabetical (given name) manner with the numerical data linked to each entry, but we hope to shortly have an excel version available for download as well. [You can currently obtain the excel version directly from me if you are interested in seeing it....] I hope that this will help sort out these similar sounding names and families once everything is complete. If anyone can identify any of those people I have listed [i.e. John Vanaman (c17?? - 18??) s/o Joseph & Mable (Smith); m. Harriet Jones] please let me know. If you have any transcribed census material for any families, I am willing to add it to the database for everyones use. All the best of this festive season to everyone! Stephen stephe.w300@gmail.com ----------------- This is a discussion area for anyone who has an interest in genealogy or history related to the VANAMAN family The custodian of this List is James Shuman VANAMAN-admin@rootsweb.com ----------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANAMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2009 02:27:22
    1. [VANAMAN] Early census records
    2. Stephen Wood
    3. Hi Everyone! Just thought that I'd mention that there is a project underway to locate and transcribe all the early Van Norman; Van Name; Van Immen; etc. families from the early U.S. census returns, 1790 - 1840. You can see the main part of the project, which (hopefully) covers all the Van Norman variants, posted at the Van Norman website: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vnfa/ Click on the Research tab, then the Early census link..... There are only a few of the early other variants listed to date, but I hope to slowly add to it until it is complete. At the moment, it is listed in a simple alphabetical (given name) manner with the numerical data linked to each entry, but we hope to shortly have an excel version available for download as well. [You can currently obtain the excel version directly from me if you are interested in seeing it....] I hope that this will help sort out these similar sounding names and families once everything is complete. If anyone can identify any of those people I have listed [i.e. John Vanaman (c17?? - 18??) s/o Joseph & Mable (Smith); m. Harriet Jones] please let me know. If you have any transcribed census material for any families, I am willing to add it to the database for everyones use. All the best of this festive season to everyone! Stephen stephe.w300@gmail.com

    12/20/2009 01:52:51
    1. Re: [VANAMAN] Y-DNA project that might be of interest...
    2. Roy Davis
    3. My Vaneman connection is a second marriage and I see no way my line could be of help. My DNA effort is on DAVIS- good luck to you. Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Wood" <stephe.w300@gmail.com> To: <Vanaman@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:05 AM Subject: [VANAMAN] Y-DNA project that might be of interest...

    12/10/2009 08:32:49
    1. [VANAMAN] Y-DNA project that might be of interest...
    2. Stephen Wood
    3. Hi! My name is Stephen Wood and I am an active member of the Van Norman (and variants) mailing list. Last year, we started a Y-DNA project to help us sort out the truth concerning the ancestry of the several early lines of the Van Norman (etc.) families, and by the results, it would appear that there are several blood-lines contributing to that surname. Our current theory is that perhaps our Van Norman lines from New Jersey descend from the early Van Immens / Van Emans / Vannemans etc. and I was wondering the following: Have any Vanaman (etc.) descendants had their Y-DNA checked? If not, Would any Vanaman's (etc.) like to join up with our project and compare their Y-DNA with our New Jersey participant? [We also have early Pennsylvania and early New York lines to compare against as well.] This testing could also help confirm other relationships, such as those believed to exist between the Vaniman and Van Immen families, if we have participants from each of the lines. Our current project results can be seen at www.familytreedna.com (type Van Norman into the search engine and follow the links) The test our participants have been using is the Y-DNA37 test and now is a good time to order, as there are price reductions until the end of the year. [Disclaimer: I have no connection to this company other than being one of the Van Norman project administrators....] This offer is open to male Vanamans (etc.) only, as the Y-DNA is passed strictly from father to son - making it ideal for a surname project. Any interested females must get a brother, father, uncle, cousin, etc. to take the test on their behalf. Contact me at stephe.w300@gmail.com if you have any further questions. Thanks for your time, Stephen

    12/10/2009 02:05:33
    1. [VANAMAN] First 3 Generations - Van Inmen, Van Nemen, Vanaman, etc.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: zanpak2001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.vanaman/128/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I come into the Van Inman/Vanemen/Vaneman, Vanaman, etc., family via a variety of intermarriages into the early Vandever's and related families. Reviewing previous research and then consulting as many original records as possible, the entire framework of the family begins to break down when compared to the Vandever's and others. What I have done is realign all the dates to match known events and records into what I believe is the correct placement of the first 3 generations of the family. First I'll give the outline tree, then explain why I placed individuals in this manner. The few existing records can be found in New Amsterdam (New York), New Amstel, and New Jersey records: 1..Gerrit Van Inman b.c. 1600-1610 The Netherlands; d.c. 8 June 1684 Salem Co., NJ 2Jan Gerritsen Van Inman b.c. 1630 The Netherlands; d.c. 7 May 1707 Salem Co., NJ 3.Johannes Vanniman b.c. 1662 New Amstel; d.c. 10 April 1719 Salem Co., NJ .Cattran Johnsson 3.Garret Vanniman b.c. 1664 New Amstel; d.c. 1751 Salem Co., NJ .Margaret Johnsson 3.Henric Van Nemen b.c. 1665-1670 Salem Co., NJ 3.Peter Vanniman b.c. 1670-1680 Salem Co., NJ 3.Olof/Wollo/William Van Nemen b.c. 1670-1680 Salem Co., NJ .Magdalena Vandevear b.c. 1695 Salem Co., NJ The dates of birth for the 3rd generation are somewhat arbitrary. Most researchers have Jan Gerritsen arriving in the colonies around 1650-1654 with his wife and all his sons having been born in the Netherlands. This, then, requires that his sons are assigned births prior to 1654 (at least), though I have seen some lists indicate births as late as 1665. The things that made this all seem unreasonable to me was the marriage between William/Wollo/Olof Van Nemen to Magdalena Vandevear around 1711-12. Based on the accepted date of birth ranges for William, he would be at least 40 years older than Magdalena when they married and potentially 5 or so years older than Magdalena's father, Jacob Jacobsson Vandevere (I can review Vandever data to explain dates of birth for them if anyone is interested). William would then be in his 60's when he married and around 95 when he died in 1748. Further, all of his activity in the Swedish Church would have occured while he was in his 60's-80! 's. This seemed extreme to me, so I took a look at the records that existed. One of the often told premisis is that Jan Gerritszen Van Inman arrived in New Amsterdam with his father Garret. I have seen nothing to specifically verify this, but if we retain this as the truth, we know they arrived by 1654 when Jan Gerritsen Van Inman receives a grant on the west side of the North Hudson (roughly Jersey City). In 1659 he donates the property to the Dutch Church in Manhattan and is next found in New Amstel in 1660. The next certain record available is the 1677 Census which indicates a Gerrit and a Joh. resident in the Penn's Neck area. They have been identified as Jan Gerritsen's sons Johannes and Garret, but this does not hold up if Jan's sons had all been born by 1665 at the latest. If Jan Gerritszen himself and his father Gerrit are not the two in the census, then they would both have to be over 70 and all 5 of Jan's sons would have been of taxable age, not just the two oldest. We know from looking at the rest of the Census that even if the brothers were living with brothers, there would have been an annotation to the effect which would have accounted for the other three brothers (see Jacob Vanderveer with two sons of tydable age). If, however, we identify Gerrit and Jan Gerritszen as the two in the 1677 Census, we then have to say that all of Jan's sons were born no earlier than 1662 as they would have been taxable themselves. Interestingly, this works just fine with the Church Records and land records that do exist. If Jan Gerritsen had arrived in New Amstel and settled in the Salem Co. area by 1660 and married by 1661, then his eldest son (who appears to be Johannes) would have been born no earlier than 1662. From that point, if Johannes was named for the maternal grandfather, the next son would be Gerrit, named for the paternal grandfather. The other three sons would then be place subsequent to, their births spread out from there. Looking at the Wills, Administrations and Inventories in Salem Co., New Jersey to correspond with these assumptions: 8 June 1684 we have Gerrit Van Inman, who would be the father of Jan Gerritsen. Jan Gerritszen's Will we find proven on 7 May 1707 naming his five known sons: Johannes, Garret (Jansen), Henric, Peter and William. The next Will is proven 10 April 1719 for Johannes Vanniman naming his sons: John, Aaron and Garret. It would appear that Garret Jansen did not leave a Will, his estate administered in 1751 and his sons being: Samuel, John, Desiderious and David. Henric sons were Henric and Lars. My data on Peter is limited, so we then turn to William who married Magdalena Vandever prior to the baptism of their first child, Elizabeth, on 14 September 1713. This all corresponds with my theoretical descendancy tree above and allows for more reasonable dates of birth for Jan Gerritsen van Inman's sons. I also make the final assumption that Jan Gerritsen married a Swede, based on the accepted understanding that members of the Swedish Lutheran Church had to be part Swede or married to a Swede. All of his sons appear in the records of the Swedish Lutheran Churches at Raccoon, Penn's Neck and Holy Trinity in Wilmington. The last supposition that I have recently made is that Jan Gerritszen may have been married more than once. His first wife being the mother of Johannes and Garret (Jansen), whose children appear to be older than those of Henric, Peter and William (whom I believe was the youngest). Final note: Given the apparent ages of Cattran, Margaret and Marten (Gill) Johnson (all three of whom married Vanaman's), the ages of Jan Gerritszen's sons as listed above makes more sense. I do not take all the family lines much further, except where they are intermarried with the Vanderveer family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/25/2009 12:33:57
    1. Re: [VANAMAN] First 3 Generations - Van Inmen, Van Nemen, Vanaman, etc.
    2. Judy Lock
    3. I'm also a VANAMAN descendant, through Charles VANAMAN (born 1798, Millville, Cumberland County, New Jersey, died abt. 1850) and Margaret FISHER, (born Cumberland County, New Jersey, died abt. 1850). They were married 7 Feb 1827, Cumberland County, New Jersey. Source: H. Stanley Craig, Cumberland County New Jersey Marriages, 1740-1910, page 86. Source Unknown: The immigrant ancestor of all Vanamans in the U.S. is Jan Garretson Van Jumme of the Netherlands, son of Garrett Van Jumme. He married, date and place unknown, Elizabeth, of undetermined parentage, who d. 1715, by whom he had five children all of whom were buried in Gloucester County, NJ. The first record of Jan Garretson Van Jumme was December 5, 1654 when he purchased 25 morgens of land behind Kill Van Kull on the present site of Bayonne, NJ. The patent for this purchase was given in Amsterdam, Holland in 1654 and taken up December 5, 1654. On April 27, 1669, he sold land at "Hackinsack". Jan Garretson Van Jumme, along with William Penn, were among the 150 signers of the "Commissions and Agreements of the Proprietors and Inhabitants of West Jersey" in 1676, a famous early New Jersey document. I'd like to be able to go back further with this VANAMAN line. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: VANAMAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:33 PM Subject: [VANAMAN] First 3 Generations - Van Inmen, Van Nemen, Vanaman, etc. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: zanpak2001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.vanaman/128/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I come into the Van Inman/Vanemen/Vaneman, Vanaman, etc., family via a variety of intermarriages into the early Vandever's and related families. Reviewing previous research and then consulting as many original records as possible, the entire framework of the family begins to break down when compared to the Vandever's and others. What I have done is realign all the dates to match known events and records into what I believe is the correct placement of the first 3 generations of the family. First I'll give the outline tree, then explain why I placed individuals in this manner. The few existing records can be found in New Amsterdam (New York), New Amstel, and New Jersey records: 1..Gerrit Van Inman b.c. 1600-1610 The Netherlands; d.c. 8 June 1684 Salem Co., NJ 2Jan Gerritsen Van Inman b.c. 1630 The Netherlands; d.c. 7 May 1707 Salem Co., NJ 3.Johannes Vanniman b.c. 1662 New Amstel; d.c. 10 April 1719 Salem Co., NJ .Cattran Johnsson 3.Garret Vanniman b.c. 1664 New Amstel; d.c. 1751 Salem Co., NJ .Margaret Johnsson 3.Henric Van Nemen b.c. 1665-1670 Salem Co., NJ 3.Peter Vanniman b.c. 1670-1680 Salem Co., NJ 3.Olof/Wollo/William Van Nemen b.c. 1670-1680 Salem Co., NJ .Magdalena Vandevear b.c. 1695 Salem Co., NJ The dates of birth for the 3rd generation are somewhat arbitrary. Most researchers have Jan Gerritsen arriving in the colonies around 1650-1654 with his wife and all his sons having been born in the Netherlands. This, then, requires that his sons are assigned births prior to 1654 (at least), though I have seen some lists indicate births as late as 1665. The things that made this all seem unreasonable to me was the marriage between William/Wollo/Olof Van Nemen to Magdalena Vandevear around 1711-12. Based on the accepted date of birth ranges for William, he would be at least 40 years older than Magdalena when they married and potentially 5 or so years older than Magdalena's father, Jacob Jacobsson Vandevere (I can review Vandever data to explain dates of birth for them if anyone is interested). William would then be in his 60's when he married and around 95 when he died in 1748. Further, all of his activity in the Swedish Church would have occured while he was in his 60's-80! 's. This seemed extreme to me, so I took a look at the records that existed. One of the often told premisis is that Jan Gerritszen Van Inman arrived in New Amsterdam with his father Garret. I have seen nothing to specifically verify this, but if we retain this as the truth, we know they arrived by 1654 when Jan Gerritsen Van Inman receives a grant on the west side of the North Hudson (roughly Jersey City). In 1659 he donates the property to the Dutch Church in Manhattan and is next found in New Amstel in 1660. The next certain record available is the 1677 Census which indicates a Gerrit and a Joh. resident in the Penn's Neck area. They have been identified as Jan Gerritsen's sons Johannes and Garret, but this does not hold up if Jan's sons had all been born by 1665 at the latest. If Jan Gerritszen himself and his father Gerrit are not the two in the census, then they would both have to be over 70 and all 5 of Jan's sons would have been of taxable age, not just the two oldest. We know from looking at the rest of the Census that even if the brothers were living with brothers, there would have been an annotation to the effect which would have accounted for the other three brothers (see Jacob Vanderveer with two sons of tydable age). If, however, we identify Gerrit and Jan Gerritszen as the two in the 1677 Census, we then have to say that all of Jan's sons were born no earlier than 1662 as they would have been taxable themselves. Interestingly, this works just fine with the Church Records and land records that do exist. If Jan Gerritsen had arrived in New Amstel and settled in the Salem Co. area by 1660 and married by 1661, then his eldest son (who appears to be Johannes) would have been born no earlier than 1662. From that point, if Johannes was named for the maternal grandfather, the next son would be Gerrit, named for the paternal grandfather. The other three sons would then be place subsequent to, their births spread out from there. Looking at the Wills, Administrations and Inventories in Salem Co., New Jersey to correspond with these assumptions: 8 June 1684 we have Gerrit Van Inman, who would be the father of Jan Gerritsen. Jan Gerritszen's Will we find proven on 7 May 1707 naming his five known sons: Johannes, Garret (Jansen), Henric, Peter and William. The next Will is proven 10 April 1719 for Johannes Vanniman naming his sons: John, Aaron and Garret. It would appear that Garret Jansen did not leave a Will, his estate administered in 1751 and his sons being: Samuel, John, Desiderious and David. Henric sons were Henric and Lars. My data on Peter is limited, so we then turn to William who married Magdalena Vandever prior to the baptism of their first child, Elizabeth, on 14 September 1713. This all corresponds with my theoretical descendancy tree above and allows for more reasonable dates of birth for Jan Gerritsen van Inman's sons. I also make the final assumption that Jan Gerritsen married a Swede, based on the accepted understanding that members of the Swedish Lutheran Church had to be part Swede or married to a Swede. All of his sons appear in the records of the Swedish Lutheran Churches at Raccoon, Penn's Neck and Holy Trinity in Wilmington. The last supposition that I have recently made is that Jan Gerritszen may have been married more than once. His first wife being the mother of Johannes and Garret (Jansen), whose children appear to be older than those of Henric, Peter and William (whom I believe was the youngest). Final note: Given the apparent ages of Cattran, Margaret and Marten (Gill) Johnson (all three of whom married Vanaman's), the ages of Jan Gerritszen's sons as listed above makes more sense. I do not take all the family lines much further, except where they are intermarried with the Vanderveer family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ----------------- This is a discussion area for anyone who has an interest in genealogy or history related to the VANAMAN family The custodian of this List is James Shuman VANAMAN-admin@rootsweb.com ----------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VANAMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: 1/24/2009 8:40 PM

    01/25/2009 07:56:38
    1. [VANAMAN] John Vanaman
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: evelyn050 Surnames: Vanaman, Bryant Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.vanaman/127/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have any information on John Vanaman who married Sarah Kinny? They had a daughter born about 1840-1841 in Philadelphia. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/11/2008 05:21:31
    1. [VANAMAN] Cora Nixon Vanaman (1866-1952) died Marshall County, WVA
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MilfordKirby Surnames: Vanaman, Nixon, Ensley, Sindledecker, Singledecker Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.vanaman/126/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone help identify/confirm parents of Cora Nixon, born 1/17/1866, Monroe County, Ohio? Married James H. Vanaman, 12/17/1884, Marshall County, WVA. Died August 18, 1952, Marshall County, West Virginia. 1910 census, Belmont County, Ohio, shows James (surname misspelled as "Venman") and Cora's household including James's mother-in-law [presumably Cora's mother] as Nancy Singledecker age 64 born Ohio, who bore 7 children of whom 6 were still living. LDS IGI files found on Ancestry.com show that a Nancy Nixon married a John Ensley in Monroe Co. Ohio on 11/17/1870, and that a Nancy Ensley married a Joseph Sindledecker on 7/13/1879 in Monroe Co. Ohio. 1870 census (taken prior to November marriage) for Monroe County Ohio shows Edward Nixon's household right next to the household of James Ensley. Edward Nixon's 1870 household has a daughter Nancy Nixon, age 21 [she is listed as age 4 in Edward's 1850 household and as age 14 in Edward's 1860 household - seems to have been born i! n 1846, not 1849]. James Ensley's 1870 household has a son John, age 36. I surmise that this Nancy Nixon married her next door neighbor shortly after the 1870 census, and then married Joseph Sindledecker or Singledecker in 1879. But Nancy's daughter Cora was already 4 years old in 1870. Who was her father? Nancy and Joseph Sindledecker appear in the 1880 census for Wetzel County, WVA, with several children (but not Cora). Nancy J. Sindledecker, a widow, having born 7 children, appears in the 1900 census for Wetzel County, WVA, as a lodger in the Weekly household. Cora Nixon Vanaman's death certificate states her father's name as Edward Nixon, and her mother's name as "no record". I think this was in error, and that Edward Nixon was her maternal grandfather. If any Vanamans, Nixons, Ensleys or Sindledeckers know who Cora's parents were, I would appreciate the information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    01/24/2008 04:35:20
    1. Re: [VANAMAN] Charles Vanaman b.3 Jan, 1906/Dr. Bodo Otto
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sharongagnon1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.vanaman/65.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Did you try Monongalia Co, WV? Morgantown, WV is close to there. That is where Minnie and Charles lived and it is close to Preston County. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/13/2007 11:13:08
    1. [VANAMAN] Charles M. Vanaman
    2. Judy Lock
    3. My earliest documented ancestor is Charles M. VANAMAN married to Mary Elizabeth SAUL on 22 August 1868 in Cumberland County, New Jersey. Charles M. Vanaman was the son of Charles VANAMAN and Margaret FISHER married 7 February 1827 in Cumberland County. 1850; Census Place: Millville, Cumberland, New Jersey; Roll: M432_446; Page: 145, August 12, 1850. Charles, Margaret and all children listed. In a pension application dated 23 April 1894 by children of Charles Vanaman and [Mary] Elizabeth Saul, it states that Charles died 30 July 1880 and Elizabeth* died 12 January 1890, and that their children were: Annie H., born 24 May 1869; Pheaby, born 27 May 1872; Arminda, born 9 Dec 1871; Ausker [Oscar], born 9 June 1876, twin Oliver, born 9 June 1876, twin The application is signed by Annie H. (Crane?), Pheobe Stratton and Araminda Millson [or Willson]. Children of Charles & Margaret were: Isaac Abram Levina Charles M. (above) (Civil War Veteran from Maryland) Louisa Frances Jane Margaret Anyone recognize anything? Judy

    04/02/2007 01:11:25
    1. Re: [VANAMAN] History and Genealogy of Fenwick's Colony
    2. There is a fairly extensive history of the Vaniman/Vanaman/etc family at the Gloucester County Historical Society. I was able to trace my Vanimans back almost to the original arrivals using the files therein and the recorded records of the Swedesboro and Racoon Creek churches. Their card file is accessible for a fee online either through membership to the society or quarterly for research only. There are some devoted souls who work there who I'm sure could guide you in locating your ancestor's NJ origins (for those who have hit walls in other states). There may be some names not available, but I think the Vaniman name is quite well represented in their files. Good luck!! http://www.rootsweb.com/~njgchs/index.htm (Gloucester County Historical Society's webpage) Wendy ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

    04/01/2007 06:55:21
    1. [VANAMAN] History and Genealogy of Fenwick's Colony
    2. jfrench
    3. There is no more information about the Vanneman's in this book; however, it does establish their general location, at a specific date, along with the Swede's and Finn's. History and Genealogy of Fenwick's Colony Author: Thomas Shourds Call Number: R929.1S559h This book contains the history and genealogy of Fenwick's Colony. Bibliographic Information: Shourds, Thomas. History and Genealogy of Fenwick's Colony. George F. Nixon. New Jersey. 1876. Page 3 INTRODUCTORY. The earliest attempts at settlement by the Europeans on the shores of the Delaware may be traced to the second decade of the seventeenth century. In 1621 a charter was granted to the West India Company by the United Netherlands, whose purpose was to transport colonists to these new Territories, and establish trade and commercial intercourse therewith. In 1623 Captain Cornelius Jacobson May, under the patronage of the before-named company, made a voyage to America, and sailed up the Delaware river as far as the mouth of Great Timber creek, a few miles below the present site of Philadelphia, and erected a trading post, which was called Fort Nassau. The Swedes and Finns soon followed, as in 1638 Queen Christiana gave her countenance to the sending of a Colony to the same river, and where a settlement was made. Passing over the grant made by Charles I., king of England, to Edmund Ploydon, in 1634, of certain territories in America, and the attempts of the New Haven Colony, under! Captain Nathaniel Turner, in 1640, to effect a settlement on the eastern shore of the river, the English emigrants holding the right of government, and title to the soil, under the conveyance made by the second Charles to the Duke of York, 1664, were the next to establish a Colony on the banks of the before-named river. The many political changes, arising from the wars and internal commotions of the home government, added much to the attendant troubles of the colonists, but at no time were they entirely lost sight of, or their nationality obliterated. The language, the customs, and the religions of each were distinctly preserved for several generations, and even at this day have not entirely disappeared. The Dutch were the least successful in establishing themselves here, for the reason, doubtless, that much greater attractions lay about New Amsterdam, and the many difficulties in which they were involved by the dissentions across the sea. The Swedes and Finns, yielding generally to the condition of things around them, and avoiding as much as possible any participation in Page 3 Page 4 quarrels between the Dutch and English, soon made a settlement on the eastern or New Jersey side of the Delaware river; most of which can be traced with some degree of accuracy. In a letter from William Penn, then living in Philadelphia, he says: "The first planters were Dutch, and soon after the Swedes and Finns. The Dutch applied themselves to traffic, and the Swedes and Finns to husbandry. The Dutch have a meeting place for religious worship at New Castle, and the Swedes one at Christiana, one at Tinicum and one at Wicaco, within half a mile of this town. The Swedes inhabit the freshes of the river Delaware. There is no need of giving any description of them who are better known in England than here, but they are a plain, strong and industrious people, yet have not made much progress in the culture or propagation of fruit trees, as if they desired rather to have money than plenty or traffic. But I presume the Indians made them the more careless by furnishing them with the! means of profit, to-wit: all kinds of furs for rum and such strong liquors. They kindly received me as did the English, who were few before the people concerned with me came among them. I must needs commend their respect to authority and kind behavior to the English. They do not degenerate from their old friendship between both kingdoms, as they are a people, physical and strong of body, so have they fine children, and almost every house is full; it is rare to find one of them without three or four boys, and as many girls; some of them have six, seven and eight sons, and I must do them justice to say I see few young men more sober and industrious." On the New Jersey shore they had settled near Salem, on Raccoon creek, where Swedesboro now stands, at the mouth of Woodbury creek, and other places on the navigation. John Fenwick, on his arrival to this country, found much of his territory occupied by the Swedes and Finns and Hollanders, but he settled amicably with them by confirming their title to the land they held in possession. Deeds for the Finnstown tract and the Boughtown tract and other like conveyances appears on record, and are curious documents in their way. Those settled on Raccoon Creek had made their homes on either side of the stream, and extending several miles along the same, with a Church at Swedesboro. This Colony assumed such proportions that the attention of travelers and historians were attracted to it, and many detached sketches of their mode of living, their political arrangement, their success as farmers, dealers in furs and skins, may be found in the old books. Near the mouth of Woodbury Creek a few families of Swedes had their farms and Page 4 Page 5 fisheries, but this settlement always remained small, and was eventually overgrown by the English, who established a Friends' Meeting there, and occupied most of the land in that region. At the outlet of Pennsiaukin Creek into the Delaware river at one time stood a small stockade called Fort Eriwonock, surrounded by a few Swedes and Finns. This, like the Colony at Woodbury Creek, soon lost its identity, and the grants of land there-abouts, as made by the proprietors of West New Jersey, took precedence of any previous title to the same, saving always the Indian ownership, which was recognized and compensated for previous to location. The more particularity is given to the description of these localities and names of such as resided there, for the reason that many of the emigrant's families became the ancestors of the present inhabitants living in West Jersey and scattered through the different States of the Union. The use of surnames was not general among the Swedes and Finns! for several years after the arrival and settlement of the English under John Fenwick and William Penn. The custom was overcome only by intermarriage with and the rigid usage of the English in this regard, and has rendered it impossible to follow the lines of families which took that direction. The transposition of names, the alteration in spelling, as well as Christain and surnames, is another source of confusion and leads to endless difficulties in geneological research. Among the Indians; names were never hereditary, and one generation could not trace its lines of blood through that of another by this means. When any name could be found it was so utterly unpronouncable and beyond the possibility of being spelled, that our ancestors in despair abandoned all attempts at reconciling the one language with the other. As early as the year 1684, the proper authorities of Salem County were at much pains to secure a translation of the language used by the Aborigines, and have the same on record in one of the court's books of the Bailiwick, evidence of their purpose to carry out a desirable object, and of how little was accomplished thereby. These impediments are encountered by the genealogist and antiquarian at every step, making dark his pathway, and his progress in some degree uncertain. In following the movements of the first English emigrants, the inquiry very naturally arises why their places of settlement were selected, as they were in this wilderness country, and the causes that contributed such action. The charts of the new world were defective, and knowledge of this particular section, in like degree limited.

    04/01/2007 06:06:40
    1. [VANAMAN] William and Garret Vanneman 1734, 1735
    2. jfrench
    3. I have copied the entire page 500; however, William Vanneman and Garret Vanneman are not mentioned until the years 1734, 1735 near the bottom of page. History and Genealogy of Fenwick's Colony Page 500 containing 29 acres. (The said property was recently owned by Joseph Test, of Salem.) 1687, Jan. 9th.--A warrant to Richard Tindall reserving the 500 acres of land called White's Vineyard, at that time belonging to Thomas York and Mary White. 1688, 5th month, 2d--A warrant to Richard Tindall to survey for George Proud 16 acres of land for a town lot at the town of Greenwich. Same date.--To Richard Tindall and John Worlidge, his Deputy, a warrant to lay out for Joshua Barkstead two 16 acre lots at the town of Greenwich. 1688, 12th of 2d month.--A warrant to Richard Tindall and John Worlidge, his Deputy, to lay out two town lots in the town of Greenwich for William Bacon. The said lots, or part of them, is where the Presbyterian Church and cemetery is. When John Fenwick directed that there should be a town laid out on the Cohanzici river, in 1678 or 1679, he gave it the name of Cohansey, and it continued to be called by that name until the year 1668, about four years after his death. About that date there was a considerable emigration to Cohansey from Connecticut, and many of them were men of influence and wealth, who changed the name to Greenwich, after their native town in Connecticut. 1685, 14th of 12th month.--A warrant to Richard Tindall to lay out 16 acres of land in the town of Cohansey for Roger Canary for a town lot, part of John Adams' 2,000 acre tract. 1686, 14th of 2d month.--A warrant to lay out 2,000 acres of land for Samuel Jennings, of Burlington, purchased of John Fenwick by Thomas Beekbane. The said land lay at the mouth of Mannington creek, adjoining lands of Rynear Vanhyest in Mannington. 26th of 2d month.--A warrant to Richard Tindall to lay out 2,000 acres of land for Thomas Hutchinson of John Fenwick's, to be laid out in some convenient place not already taken up. 100 acres to John Eaton, in the year 1734, œ30; 135 acres to Martin Shere, œ40; 200 acres to Garret Vanneman, œ50; 100 acres of marsh to Margaret Bilderback, œ25; 50 acres to Timothy Rain, œ12 10s. 1735.--282 acres to William Vanneman, œ70; 70 acres to Sinnick Sinaker, œ11 15s.; 120 acres to Harmenus Alricks, œ24; 12 acres to Sinick Sinaker, œ3 15s.; 270 acres to John Wilder, œ67 10s; 100 acres to William Philpot, œ25; 150 acres to Erick Shere, œ45. 1736-1737.--100 acres to Thomas Proctor, œ25; 100 acres Page 500

    04/01/2007 05:50:28
    1. [VANAMAN] John Vanneman, etc.
    2. Donna Mohney
    3. Just keep in mind that in the early days- my sources weren't always well documented. I have John b. 4 July 1863 as the son of Isaac b. 16 Nov 1725 Raccoom Creek, Gloucester County, NJ. and his wife, Sarah LOCK b. about 1745. Isaac was a Master brick layer mason for the Old Swedes Church in 1784. Information on John and Sarah is from Frederic Swing Crispin, Early Record of the Vaneman Family in America, (Dec. 1943). I don't have documentation for the children however. children are: John Sarah 14 Feb 1765-bef 1772 Susannah 14 Feb 1765 Mary 14 Dec 1766 Joannah 1 Apr 1769 Rebecca 24 Oct 1770 - Bef. 1777 Hellena 23 Aug 1771 Sarah 16 Aug 1772 Isaac 15 aug 1775 Rebecca bef 17 Sept 177 Willjama (female) 15 aug 1780 All are born at Raccoon Creek. I have Isaac Vanaman as son of David and Marie Rambo Vanneman. David's will: 1733, March 28 Vanneman, David of Greenwich, Gloucester County, Yeoman. Will of. Adminx. Mary Vanneman, widow. Bondsman, Christopher Taylor, of same place, yeoman. Witness-A. Randall. 1732-3 March 21, Inventory (128.18.9 pounds) includes 2 Bibles and Common Prayer Book. Appraisers-John Van Iman, Robert Garrard, William Mickle. Gloucester Wills 172 H. David as son of Garret and Deborah (?) Vanneman Garret as son of Jan Johannes Garretson and Elizabeth 1728 April 16 will of John Young of Gloucester County- exec. was Garret, son of John Vanjmma 1753, Jan. 8. Vanneman, Garret, of Pilesgrove, Salem Co., yeoman; will of. Wife Mary the 1/2 of my plantation where I live. son, John, the other half, also 6 1/2 acres I bought of Andew Peterson; also 200 acres I bought of Penn son, Andrew, the plantation where he lives, of 100 acres, which I bought of Thomas Proctor, and the other part I bought of Penn. My Son, John, is to pay my daughter, Mary 15 pounds and my daughter Sarah, 15 pounds and Rebecca 15 pounds and daughter Regeena 15 pounds when they are of age. Daughters, Elizabeth, Mary, Sarah, Rebecca and Regeena to have goods. Executors-sons, John and Andrew Witnesses: Nathaniel Parr, Samuel Linch, Jr., Andrew Vanneman. Proven March 23, 1761 1761, Jan. 12 Inventory, 337.14.9, made by Samuel Linch and John Helm. Lib. 11, page 6 info on Jan Johannes Garretson Vanneman and Elizabeth New Jersey Colonial Documents ----- ---, Vanniman, Johannes of Salem Co., yeoman, will of. Wife Elizabeth. Seven Children (names only John, Wolow, Henry, Peter, Garrat) Real and personal estate. Executors: wife and son John. Witnesses: Walter and Ann Hogshead. proved 7 may 1707. Lib. B., page 178 ____ Venemy/Vaneman, Johannes of Salem Co. Inv. of personal estate-112.1.0 pounds -made and sworn to by Elias Giljohnson and John Minke 17 Sept. 1706 1684 Oct. 27 Deed- William Penn, Pro. and Governor of Pa and of Salem Tenth West Jersey, by her agent, James Neville to Yealious Gill Johnson and Garrett Vanjmy of Salem Tenth, Plantation of 300 acres 1684 Nov. 27 Johannes Vanjmy of Penwecks River Salem Tenth, planter for 200 aces on the northwest side of said river and the northeast side of Middle creek. 1693 Jun 4 quit claim by Garret Vanjimy 1694 Mar. 28 Deed Garret Vanjmy of Glossester Co., W. J. yeoman to John Brustow 1699 Nov. Deed Garrett Vanemey of Gloucester Co, West Jersey yeoman to Walter Hughstes 1702 1 Sept Andrew Robeson of Gloucester Co, surviving executor of Sam Robeson, dec'd son and heir of Andrew Robeson of Philadelphia; desc. to Garrett van Imma of Gloucester yeoman for 1000 acres with highway. 1696 April 27 John Gerritse van Imme March 18, 1700 land formerly belonging to Jan Gerretson van Imme It is interesting to note that Peter Vanneman, brother of Isaac, married Catherine Helm. 1755, Dec. 10. Vanneman, Petter, of Pens Neck, Salem County, Weaver, will of. Wife, Cathrine. Children: Israel, Lawrence, Petter, Elizabeth, and Sarah. Real and Personal estate. executors-the wife and brother, Garrett Vanneman. Witnesses-Christopher Lenmier, Ann Lenmire, and William Guest. Proven 2 March 1757 Lib. 8, page 148. 1757 Feb. 22 Inventory 80.9.1 including 2 Bibles, and other books, 7/6, made by Samuel Linch and John Vanneman. Most of this info is from the early New Jersey wills and from Crispin. I also have another researcher of the David Vanneman line: Carol Taravella ctaravel@clover.net (This email is old and I don't know if it is any good.) Hope this helps. Donna Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Shuman" <jshuman@telis.org> To: <vanaman@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [VANAMAN] Nicholas and Mary (Wilson) Van Eman of Washington County, PA > "Donna Mohney" <echoes@adelphia.net> wrote: > > [big snip] >>I descend from Nicholas Van Eman II and his wife, Catherine Riddle but >>will >>go into their family in another email. >> >>I have a large file of info on the Van Emans and related families. > > Donna, > > Thank you so much for sharing with us. You may quickly become one of > our prime question-answerers! > > For, example, several of us descend from Vaniman/Veneman ancestors, > who seem to show up in early PA records but for whom no parents have > been found. Mine is John Vaniman, who was born 1763, married 1786 in > Bedford Co, PA, and died 1828 in Montgomery Co, OH. He married into > and was himself a member of the Brethren, or Dunkard church. > > Some have been looking at a John Van Immen, born July 4, 1763, s/o > Isaac Van Immen and Sarah helm of New Jersey, whose children almost > all used some version of the single word "Vanaman" for their surname > spelling. Could this be our ancestor? So far, no one has been able to > tell us anything more about John s/o Isaac, than this date of birth. > So it is a brick wall for all who claim descent from this "first > Brethren Vaniman." > > Any help would be much appreciated. > -- > _________________ > James Shuman > jshuman@telis.org > _________________ > > > > > ----------------- > This is a discussion area for anyone > who has an interest in genealogy or history > related to the VANAMAN family > The custodian of this List is James Shuman > VANAMAN-admin@rootsweb.com > ----------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VANAMAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/01/2007 03:50:09
    1. [VANAMAN] Nicholas and Mary (Wilson) Van Eman of Washington County, PA
    2. Donna Mohney
    3. Hi, all, As James suggested, I'll introduce myself and my Van Eman family. My name is Donna and I live in Ligonier, Westmoreland County, PA about 50 miles east of Pittsburgh. I have a son and 2 grandsons. We moved here in 1991 from New Springfield, Ohio. I work for a non-profit agency and supervise 5 group homes for children and adults with intellectual disabilities. My Van Emans have been driving me crazy for well over 20 years. I've learned lots about them but can't find a connection past Nicholas Van Eman. Here's some of what I know about Nicholas and Mary Wilson, his wife: The first record of our Nicholas in America is located in the Land Office of Annapolis, Maryland. There is certificate # 78 for 100 acres of land to Nicholas VanEman patented on 9 October 1739. The land, known as VanEman's Struggle, is located in what was then Prince George's County and later was Frederick County, Maryland. Neighbors included: Swearingen, Twigs, Cresaps, Williams, Stewarts, Howards, Millers, Butler, Nelson, Davis, Snowdon, Graybill, Moore, Sprigg, Chew, Friends. (All surnames also turn up in Washington County, Pennsylvania.)(And the Spriggs are part of my mother's family- Van Emans are a paternal line.) If this is really our Nicholas, he would be born about 1717 to be of age to purchase land in 1739. This makes him rather slow at having children in the 1750's to 1760's but it's possible. I went to Frederick County, Md. a few years ago and found this land. No information on any other Van Emans in the area except a George who's intestate file was recorded in 1752 in Frederick County, Virginia-just across the Potomac from Maryland. I got a copy of the intestate record- no family members listed. Other researchers indicate that George was the father of Nicholas but I find no proof. By 1772, Nicholas and his family had moved to West Strabane Township, Yohogania, Virginia (now Washington County, Pennsylvania). The land on which Nicholas settled was taken up by "Tomahawk Improvement" and was received by Virginia Certificate. It was a beautiful tract of 1500 acres, running from the modern-day town of Clarksville to Dunningsville and including a large portion of North Strabane Township. The land was warranted on 23 March 1786 and was called "Oak Plains." His will is on file at the Washington County, Pennsylvania courthouse. (Will book 1, page 5) It was written on 14 September 1779 and proven on 3 January 1782. (The original will is brown and crumbling but still legible.and I got to hold it in my hands and copy every piece of paper!) The will proves that Nicholas is the same person as lived in Maryland: "and whereas my son John in his lifetime did receive a certain tract of land it lying and being on Little Coneguguoge Creek Frederick County State of Maryland which I do ordain to be in full for his share." The will names each of his children and identifies the daughters by married names: John- had a son John Garrett- George Andrew Nicholas Cathrine Wall, Hannah Alexander, Elizabeth Wiley, Susanna Roberts, Jean Veneman In a codicil, he lists his daughter, Mary Mcolum. Andrew Van Eman, in his Rev. War pension application, states that he was born "within sight of Wilmington, Delaware." This leads me to believe that this family may relate to the families at Old Swede's church area. However family history and county histories state that Nicholas was "of Emans, Holland." I descend from Nicholas Van Eman II and his wife, Catherine Riddle but will go into their family in another email. I have a large file of info on the Van Emans and related families. Donna

    04/01/2007 01:49:29
    1. Re: [VANAMAN] Nicholas and Mary (Wilson) Van Eman of Washington County, PA
    2. James Shuman
    3. "Donna Mohney" <echoes@adelphia.net> wrote: [big snip] >I descend from Nicholas Van Eman II and his wife, Catherine Riddle but will >go into their family in another email. > >I have a large file of info on the Van Emans and related families. Donna, Thank you so much for sharing with us. You may quickly become one of our prime question-answerers! For, example, several of us descend from Vaniman/Veneman ancestors, who seem to show up in early PA records but for whom no parents have been found. Mine is John Vaniman, who was born 1763, married 1786 in Bedford Co, PA, and died 1828 in Montgomery Co, OH. He married into and was himself a member of the Brethren, or Dunkard church. Some have been looking at a John Van Immen, born July 4, 1763, s/o Isaac Van Immen and Sarah helm of New Jersey, whose children almost all used some version of the single word "Vanaman" for their surname spelling. Could this be our ancestor? So far, no one has been able to tell us anything more about John s/o Isaac, than this date of birth. So it is a brick wall for all who claim descent from this "first Brethren Vaniman." Any help would be much appreciated. -- _________________ James Shuman jshuman@telis.org _________________

    04/01/2007 11:58:16
    1. [VANAMAN] More about Cornelius Veneman's family
    2. jfrench
    3. List members, I posted the following information last year on the Veneman message board. Posted: 11 Mar 2006 -- Surnames: Veneman Finney Rodgers Reser Richard I have been reading the older posts - glad to see the Veneman - Rodgers discussion. I think I can add some information to the discussion. Cornelius Veneman married Matilda Richard, 1840, in Ohio. Their children included, among others, John, James, Leonard, and Margaret Catherine Veneman, my great grandmother. The Cornelius Veneman family moved to Clinton Co., IN. Margaret Catherine Veneman married John Wesley Finney and by 1880 you find them and Margaret Catherine's brothers John and James living in Kansas. John Wesley Finney and Margaret Catherine Veneman later move to CO, where they continued to live until their deaths. I have a copy of Margaret's Obit which contains the following information: Obituary -- Mrs J. W. Finney Margaret Catharine Veneman was born near Michigantown, Indiana, on October 21, 1846. She was married to John W. Finney, March 16, 1865. . . . Mrs. Finney passed to her eternal reward, at the home of a daughter . . . . September 5, 1927. . . . Three brothers of Mrs. Finney survive her: Leonard Veneman of Michigantown, Ind.; John, of Long Island, Kansas; and James of Almena, Kansas. John Martin Veneman m. Honor Elizabeth Reser and their children include, among others, Omar Benjamin and Maud Bell. >From the Obit of Omar's wife, --Obit, Minia Rodgers b. 25 Mar 1882, Franklin Co., NE and died 16 Nov 1907 living south of Bloomton when she died, Nov 16, 1907 at age 25 years, 7 months, 21 days. Leaves husband [Omar Veneman] and 4 children; her parents, 4 brothers and 3 sisters. interred at Veneman Cemetery. The 4 children she left, based on the 1910 census were: Velma J. 10, Gatha 7, Nancy E. 6, Mable S. 3 -- all born KS James N. Veneman married Isabel Sarah Reser and their children included, among others, son, Newton Marian and a daughter, E. B. b. Nov 1889 (per census record). . . . . j french

    02/12/2007 08:55:26