Hi, It's been a while since I posted this query, so I thought I'd try again: I'm looking for the family of my 3g Grandfather, named Anthony SANDERS/SAUNDERS, who m. Lovicy AKERS in Montgomery County in 1819. Anthony was born in 1796, location unknown. He enlisted in the War of 1812, departing in 1814 from Christiansburg and returning to Christiansburg after the war. After marriage, Anthony and Lovicy moved to Clark Co. Ohio, where they had 6 children. In 1831 they moved to Henry Co. Indiana, where they had six more children. Anthony died there in 1851. Anthony and Lovicy's marriage certificate was signed by a Francis SAUNDERS. I believe that this was not Anthony's father, since all data points to the idea that Francis was just a few years older than Anthony. In the 1880 census, some of Anthony's children stated he was born in VA; some others said NC. The 1850 census, when he was still alive, stated PA. Lovicy was the daughter of Austin AKERS (of the well known AKERS family) and Rhoda THOMPSON. Some of the research I have done to date: looked in the LDS archives for Montgomery Co; had a local person search the Montgomery County courthouse; and received his militia war records and pension data. None of this indicated anything about his past before enlisting in the War of 1812. Does anybody have anything on a SANDERS family containing the names Anthony and/or Francis? I'd like to know who Anthony's parents and siblings are. Many of his descendants have been looking for many years, but so far to no avail. Help greatly appreciated! Thanks, Glenn Sanders

Thank you! Just ordered it from Amazon, in paperback, for under $7 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 9/6/00 2:33 PM Subject: [VAMONTGO] Re: Book The publisher of the book Follow The River, by James Alexander Thom, is Ballantine Books and the ISBN is 0-345-33854-5 Library of Congress Catalog Card # 80-66552 Wanda L. Taylor Thacker ==== VAMONTGO Mailing List ==== The Montgomery Co VAGenWeb QueryPage is located at URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vamontgo/mont-qry.htm

So many people have asked me about this, so I thought I'd reply to the list. The book is Follow the River by James Alexander Thom. I saw it, a paperback, a couple of weeks ago on the rack at Borders. I assume it would be available through Barnes & Noble as well. It caught my eye because it has the same cover as my disintegrating 1981 edition. I'm in Virginia and the bookstores usually have special displays of Virginiana which could be why it was front and center. The descendant I mentioned in my message, below, didn't write a book. The story was written up in the local newspaper I suppose, or some other Virginia publication. I doubt of her re-tracing of her ancestor's footsteps attracted much attention outside the area. If y'all can't find Follow the River, let me know. I'll check next time I'm in Borders and see who published it. Rebecca > [Original Message] > From: Carole Spencer <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 9/6/2000 1:20:45 PM > Subject: Re: [VAMONTGO] Re: Book > > Rebecca:� Where is the reprint available? > Thank you > Carole > > Rebecca Emmett wrote: > > > �Some years ago, maybe 10 or so, a descendant of Mary Draper Ingles > > retraced Mary's path up the New River Valley.� She had assistance in the > > form of modern equipment and civilization, but even so, she said it was > > grueling and unbelievably difficult.� She was totally astounded that her > > ancestor could have accomplished this. > > > > And a fascinating book besides.� My first edition has fallen apart but > > there is a new printing available.� A must read! > > > > > --- Rebecca Emmett > > --- [email protected] > > --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. > > > > ==== VAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > > The Montgomery Co VAGenWeb "Family WebPages" list is located at URL: > > ���� http://www.rootsweb.com/~vamontgo/mont-web.htm > --- Rebecca Emmett --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

The publisher of the book Follow The River, by James Alexander Thom, is Ballantine Books and the ISBN is 0-345-33854-5 Library of Congress Catalog Card # 80-66552 Wanda L. Taylor Thacker

In a message dated 9/5/2000 9:15:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj: Re: [VAMONTGO] Re: Book > Date: 9/5/2000 9:15:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: [email protected] (Chuck Burress) > To: [email protected] > > Hello: > > I saw you posting on the Montgomery County, Va., list regarding the Sinking > Creek area. > I had family in that area of Giles County, as well as some who were among > the early settlers at Blacksburg. > > Just curious, what surnames are you researching in those areas? > > Chuck Burress > Galax, Virginia > [email protected] > The surnames I research are Taylor, Martin, Webb, Snidow, Harless, Price and related families. The Taylors lived in Dunkard's Bottom area.

Some years ago, maybe 10 or so, a descendant of Mary Draper Ingles retraced Mary's path up the New River Valley. She had assistance in the form of modern equipment and civilization, but even so, she said it was grueling and unbelievably difficult. She was totally astounded that her ancestor could have accomplished this. And a fascinating book besides. My first edition has fallen apart but there is a new printing available. A must read! > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 9/5/00 10:17:54 AM > Subject: [VAMONTGO] Re: Book > > I recently reread an old book written by James Alexander Thom. It is called > Follow the River. It is about a woman named Mary Ingles who lived in the New > River area of VA/WVA pre-Revolutionary War. There is mention of several > areas that some of my family came from Sinking Creek, and Dunkard's Bottom. > When I first read this book, I hadn't done my family research and it was > still a good book, but now that I have done alot of Montgomery and Giles > research it had new meaning for me. I hope that other people who have family > from these areas will consider reading it. It gives insight into what > pioneer life was like before white people spread into western VA and Ohio. > > > > ==== VAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send an email to > [email protected] containing ONLY the one word > unsubscribe. Leave the subject blank or use the word unsubscribe. > --- Rebecca Emmett --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

I recently reread an old book written by James Alexander Thom. It is called Follow the River. It is about a woman named Mary Ingles who lived in the New River area of VA/WVA pre-Revolutionary War. There is mention of several areas that some of my family came from Sinking Creek, and Dunkard's Bottom. When I first read this book, I hadn't done my family research and it was still a good book, but now that I have done alot of Montgomery and Giles research it had new meaning for me. I hope that other people who have family from these areas will consider reading it. It gives insight into what pioneer life was like before white people spread into western VA and Ohio.

I wanted to take a moment to thank all of you who responded to my earlier apology regarding the Archives. You have all been SO supportive!!! It really means alot to me. I would have preferred to answer you all individually, but there were so MANY responses!!! I did want to answer a couple of questions that I received though. Yes, I do take care of the archives on a volunteer basis, and I continually stretch myself to take care of as many counties as I can because I, like you, want to make sure that new files do continue to be uploaded and that the counties are cared for. Sometimes I have the time & energy to do a fantastic job updating the pages on a timely basis, and sometimes, I just don't have what it takes. But all in all, I love taking care of the Archives and watching them grow. I think it's a wonderful way to volunteer my time & hope I'll be able to continue to do so for a very long time. I have completed the uploads for July, minus a couple of small changes that need to be made and also minus the scanned documents. My next goal is to complete those & then I'll move on to the new files received in August. Then I will send notification to the individual county lists for all the new files uploaded during July & August. After that, I will start work on organizing some new counties that I have adopted. Once those pages are updated, I'll subscribe to the mailing lists for those counties & notify the folks there that the counties now have a new archivist who will TRY to post new files on a timely basis :) I'm sure those folks will be happy as I don't believe those counties have had anything new posted in quite some time. Once again, thanks so much for your support and all your kind words!!! It's good to know that there are real people out there (and nice ones too!) that are benefiting from my time & effort. Thanks again, you're the best!!! Jeannie ************* Now Available: "The Descendants of John Thomas Clay, Jamestown Immigrant and son of Sir John Clay of Wales" Also available: "The Descendants of James Bailey & Lucy Simms" For more info: http://www.trellis.net/users/madamx

As you can see from the message below, I have the person I need to contact when I get an appropriate number of people. Although I have had some people show interest, there has been nowhere near 100. I may need to go to other lists in the NRV, or if you know of someone who may be interested, let me know. I will stop using these lists for this purpose after this, and I apologize to anyone that may have felt it inappropriate to do so. Please contact me at my personal address - [email protected] -I will contact you when/if we have enough people. Thank you Winnie Minson ----- Original Message ----- From: Molecular Genealogy To: Winnie Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: Re: The person to contact would be me, Ugo Perego, director of public relations for the molecular genealogy study. Once you have 100+ people willing to donate a sample of blood and their 4 generation pedigree charts, write or call me and we can decide date, time and location for the blood draws. We will need enough people to draw blood according to the number of participants (usually one medical techincian can draw blood from 30 people/hr). We can give a presentation before the sample collection. The presentation will take ca. 50 minutes. The whole event (presentation + blood draws) should not take more than 2 hours. One or two people from our group will come to your place for the sample collection and the presentation. You can seek out help from local genealogical societies or Family History Directors of local LDS stakes. They are usually pretty good in getting a large group of people together and organizing such event. Let me know how I can be of help to you. Thanks, Ugo A. Perego Director of Public Relations Molecular Genealogy Research Group http://molecular-genealogy.byu.edu [email protected] tel. (801) 378-1245 775 WIDB - BYU Provo, UT 84602 USA At 08:46 AM 9/2/00 -0400, you wrote: If I were able to get together 100 people for samples, who would I contact, an how would I go about making arrangements to have yur study group come to our location? Winnie Minson from the New River Valley area of Southwest VA

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Jerry, I don't believe that it will be of any value in locating individual ancestors either. If that is what someone is expecting they need not participate. Or, if anyone is worried about their privacy, although I don't believe there is any problem there, don't do it. I personally see it as a wonderful tool to learn and to contribute to the study of our humanity, and, in the long run, believe it will be priceless information, once we get past all of the issues that will present themselves in the beginning as happens with any new technology. Perhaps with enough grouping, it will become easier to trace our lines or to at least come to understand who we are and why we are as we are. The more knowledge there is available the more knowledge we can all have about each other, and some of our prejudices can we wiped out. Sometimes we do not do something for what we get out of it but for what we can contribute. I personally am a big believer in the value of DNA studies, and hope to see some of the effects in the near future. To me is is another door God has opened up to us to help us learn more about ourselves, and to improve life on earth. Thanks for sharing your opinion with us, its good to look at all possibilities before we make such a decision. Winnie Minson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Hodge" <[email protected]> To: "Winnie" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [VAFRANKL] DNA-BYU > Winnie, I fail to see how this study will ever be of value in locating > individual ancestors. Judy Phillips has hit on perhaps the only value to > those searching for their family trees. (see below). If one reads the BYU > study completely they will notice that no individual relationships will be > studied or information transmitted to those taking part in the study. > Rather, they will be looking at group similarities in DNA makeup. > > At some future time, their literature states, there will be a database > available showing ones relationship to a particular group of people in an > area. Since an individual receives no data from his DNA contribution I am > not sure how one would get any information from this database (especially > free information). > > I am sure they could build a database with names of contributors and show > relationships of other contributors to them but how they connect them to > people not contributing is not stated. They could also print your name > showing how you fit into the local ethnic groups by DNA types. > > Beyond that one encounters all kinds of privacy issues and sticky liability > problems. > > This could be a great boon to class studies of migration and immigration and > is certainly of value to social scientists. As long as the contributors do > not think of it as a way of finally finding GGGrandfather George after all > these years of searching, then by all means contribute. The study may show > that many of the contributors from Franklin County had DNA similar to people > from Scotland and Germany. Remember, though ,that you must submit a > pedigree chart for 4 generations back stating your ancestors home country if > known. For those that do not already know which country their ancestor came > from the database may give them a good idea;as long as enough contributors > have DNA that tie all of them together. > Jerry Hodge > > > > Anyway, I was very interested because my grandmother would not talk > > about our Indian heritage. I want to do this to see if I have any Indian > > blood or not. I checked to see how I could participate in this study. I > > was told if I could get 100 + people, they could be here in about 3 > > months. > > ==== VAFRANKL Mailing List ==== > > The Franklin Co VAGenWeb "Books" page is located at URL: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafrankl/fran-lup.htm > > > > > >

Winnie and Interested List Members, Since BYU is predominately a Mormon based school and the LDS holds the largest geneology research and database in the World, I recommend working with your local LDS Family History Center as a focal point for gathering the required number of people to participate in the program (100) and gather info necessary to have BYU scientists to come out and retrieve the needed data and blood samples. Additionally, they have computers available that all could use to input their 4-generation pedigree into the same format for all (especially for those without computers or gene programs). That's just my suggestion. Wes Researching Virginia Ayers, Doyle, Lewis, Light, Mayhew, McDaniel, and Woods; Florida, NCarolina and Georgia Banks, Basford, Rathel ----- Original Message ----- From: Winnie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 7:22 AM Subject: [VAMONTGO] DNA > Glad to see such a favorable response. I hope the references I sent will help to explain the ideal behind all this. I haven't had a chance to read it all myself but will study it and see what is necessary to get it started. > > As to the location, I don't believe they would care where you come from. They most likely are interested in as many samples as possible, but in order for it to be worthwhile for them to come to you, they want at least 100 people willing to participate. If you are living elsewhere, try passing this info on to your local genealogical page, and I'm sure they will be willing to go wherever the demand is. > > Winnie > > > ==== VAMONTGO Mailing List ==== > The Montgomery Co VAGenWeb "Books" page is located at URL: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vamontgo/mont-lup.htm >

Glad to see such a favorable response. I hope the references I sent will help to explain the ideal behind all this. I haven't had a chance to read it all myself but will study it and see what is necessary to get it started. As to the location, I don't believe they would care where you come from. They most likely are interested in as many samples as possible, but in order for it to be worthwhile for them to come to you, they want at least 100 people willing to participate. If you are living elsewhere, try passing this info on to your local genealogical page, and I'm sure they will be willing to go wherever the demand is. Winnie

Have received several questions regarding the dna email. I can't answer those questions, since I only passed on a message I found on another line. I will try and follow thru with the BYU group that does it and add more later. I know from just what I have heard and read about the DNA research they do that they have already been able to trace all persons back to 7 original tribes. There is a place that will trace your DNA for 200.00. Doesn't mean they can tell you who all of your ancesters are, but will be able to give you info on you origins in general. I believe that the purpose in the BYU group is to get dna from as many people and possible and match them up. I do not believe it is a hoax. If you know anything about the DNA research going on, you will understand basically how it works. BYU is Brigham Young University and is associated with the Morman Church who has been doing genealogy research for many years. They are also the ones who sponsor Ancestry.com and LDS records. I have just located this website regarding the subject- http://dnasc.byu.edu/ Haven't time to read it now baut maybe it can help answer your questions. Winnie Minson

I am happy to see this word being spread. I had read about this great undertaking earlier this year. I thought there was no hope in being involved in this project, because I live in Ohio. I put it way in the back of my mind. In August, my husband and I attended a New Testament Conference at BYU. A flyer was hanging on the back of one of the elevators and also at each table in the cafeteria advertising the fact that if you wanted to be part of this research, come to a certain building to sign up. I didn't have a 4-generation pedigree chart, but neither did most of the other people that were there. I read through a paper, signed my agreement, and watched them as they carefully labeled the paper, a blank 4-generation chart, and an empty blood vial with matching code numbers. They took my blood and I was done in about five minutes. They had also given me a return envelope for the chart. I mailed the chart back that evening, for it was at our hotel. Yesterday, I received the $10. As I was standing in the hall filling out that consent form, I jokingly said it was too bad people had to come all the way to Utah to participate. He then mentioned to me that if I could get the people together, they would come to us. I just about fell over. I said I had a big mouth and would do what I can. Their goal is to get 100,000 samples. I have now turned all of the information over to the board of the Ohio Genealogical Society to see if they would like them to set up at their conference they have each April. We're all hoping...... Peggy Clemens Lauritzen LDS and Professional Genealogist Searching SE KY and SW VA "Every family tree has some sap in it!"

----- Original Message ----- From: Winnie To: Va Montco ; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 7:03 PM Subject: DNA-BYU Found this message on my Franklin Co Tenn list. Wonder if we could get enough folks in the local area to bring them here. I don't know how to go about it myself, but if enough persons are interested, it would be worth checking into. Winnie Minson Hi there, For those of you who are local to Franklin County, I have recently found out that BYU in Utah are doing DNA Research Genealogy study. Molecular Genealogy links individuals together in "family trees" based on unique identification of genetic markers. In order to reconstruct molecular genealogies it is necessary to utilize known biological relationships and correlate this information with the transmission of genetic markers through time. Throughout the world there is intense interest in the origins and histories of people. Some of this information is transmitted through oral or written histories. Unfortunately, the history of some peoples and communities has been lost or destroyed through time. By utilizing the genetic record that each individual retains of his/her past, it is possible to reveal important clues as to their origin and relationship of any individual toother persons orpopulations. It will be possible to establish ancient immigration and migration patterns... Anyway, I was very interested because my grandmother would not talk about our Indian heritage. I want to do this to see if I have any Indian blood or not. I checked to see how I could participate in this study. I was told if I could get 100 + people, they could be here in about 3 months. You have to be 18. They will take about two tbsp of blood and it will be drawn by an experienced phlebotomist. You have to also have a four generation pedigree chart filled out as best you can. This will be used for future study. It is completely private. The results will be under lock and key. It takes about 10 mins. to do and they will pay you $10. Shoot, I would pay them $10.:) If any of you locals are interested, call or e-mail me. Thanks, Judy Phillips Franklin County

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Hello everyone..... My name is Tami Ramsey and Freddie Spradlin has graciously agreed to let me take over this mailing list and the Montgomery County GenWeb page as well. (Thank you Freddie!) Many of you probably know me from my other pages and mailing lists, but for those of you that don't I hope that we will all become fast friends. I have learned in the past that if you have "kinfolk" from the New River Valley it makes you an instantly "likable" person! Although I have no relatives from here I have lived in Dublin for almost three years having come from Austin, Texas and after living here I don't know why your ancestors ever left! On to more important business.........I have updated the Montgomery County Genweb page so be sure and stop by and check it out and let me know if you might have anything to add. http://www.rootsweb.com/~vamontgo/montgomy.htm Make sure that you hit your REFRESH button if you have visited recently Tami P. Ramsey [email protected] Pulaski County VA GenWeb Coordinator & Listowner http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapulask/ Montgomery County VA GenWeb Coordinator & Listowner http://www.rootsweb.com/~vamontgo/montgomy.htm Washington County VA GenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~vawashin/ Overton Co. TN GenWeb Coordinator & Listowner http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnoverto/overton.htm Fentress & Pickett Co. TN GenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnfentre/fent.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnpicket/pick.htm Webmaster Wilderness Road Regional Museum http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapulask/wrrm/index.htm Webmaster for New River Historical Society Homepage http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanrhs/ RAMSEY Family Webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ramsey/ SULSER Family Webpage & Listowner http://sulser.rootsweb.com/

Greetings Cousins...Have updated some of the info on my page, stop in when you get a chance...Chuck Jennings http://www.corecomm.net/~moocow/homepage.html ~~~*******Hidden on the northwest edge of the shadows cast by the "Windy City"***~~~~~~~ || | | H | | X | | X o o | | X o o | | X o o

I am today transferring responsibility for this mailing list ... and the Montgomery Co VAGenWeb pages to Tami Ramsey Everyone wish her luck ... (silently, not to the list -- chuckle) Regards, Freddie S.