Ruby wrote: >I have [Joel Estes] marrying > Fannie BIBB rather than Elizabeth BIBB. <snip> I also have from another source > that Joel ESTES who married Elizabeth BIBB died in 1871 in Louisa Co, VA. Thank you, Ruby. Joel Estes' place of death as TN was a complete error I had entered in my database. I have Joel Estes as far as the census of 1870, and he was living alone in Louisa County, recorded there as 75 years old. Earlier, in the 1860 census, Joel's adult son Benjamin Estes was living with Joel in Louisa Co.. They are recorded four dwellings from Agnes Bibb (age 90), who was living with son Richard Bibb. Also in 1860 Joel Estes is recorded as living one dwelling from Charles Timberlake, age 39. I do not know where this Charles fits in with the Timberlakes, as I don't have him in my database yet. So I guess I must have pulled the death location of Joel Estes out of the air----senior moment #570. Regarding Joel Estes' wife Elizabeth Bibb: I didn't have Fannie as an AKA, but I had an AKA for her as Betsey, which is how she was named in her father Benjamin's will. I also have another AKA as being Nannie, but I am ashamed to say that I didn't record the source. <!:-/ I know that Joel's wife was Elizabeth, because of the land transaction of 13 Oct 1838 that begins, "Joel Estes & Elizabeth his wife of Louisa. . . ." I didn't have anything on the Talleys & Brockmans---thank you for the information. And thank you for correcting my death location for Joel Estes. Sometimes someone just needs to step in and save me from myself. :-) Warmest Regards, Donna