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    1. Re: [VALOUISA] Timberlakes in Louisa County & Tennessee
    2. Donna in Texas
    3. Ruby wrote: >I have [Joel Estes] marrying > Fannie BIBB rather than Elizabeth BIBB. <snip> I also have from another source > that Joel ESTES who married Elizabeth BIBB died in 1871 in Louisa Co, VA. Thank you, Ruby. Joel Estes' place of death as TN was a complete error I had entered in my database. I have Joel Estes as far as the census of 1870, and he was living alone in Louisa County, recorded there as 75 years old. Earlier, in the 1860 census, Joel's adult son Benjamin Estes was living with Joel in Louisa Co.. They are recorded four dwellings from Agnes Bibb (age 90), who was living with son Richard Bibb. Also in 1860 Joel Estes is recorded as living one dwelling from Charles Timberlake, age 39. I do not know where this Charles fits in with the Timberlakes, as I don't have him in my database yet. So I guess I must have pulled the death location of Joel Estes out of the air----senior moment #570. Regarding Joel Estes' wife Elizabeth Bibb: I didn't have Fannie as an AKA, but I had an AKA for her as Betsey, which is how she was named in her father Benjamin's will. I also have another AKA as being Nannie, but I am ashamed to say that I didn't record the source. <!:-/ I know that Joel's wife was Elizabeth, because of the land transaction of 13 Oct 1838 that begins, "Joel Estes & Elizabeth his wife of Louisa. . . ." I didn't have anything on the Talleys & Brockmans---thank you for the information. And thank you for correcting my death location for Joel Estes. Sometimes someone just needs to step in and save me from myself. :-) Warmest Regards, Donna

    05/06/2007 12:26:04
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] [VALOUISA-unmarked graves in Fluvanna co.VA
    2. Did you check with the local funeral homes to see if they have any records of the burial? Bev In a message dated 5/6/2007 11:51:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lcarey@bcpl.net writes: Thank you Bev. We have found what we think are the remnants of my mother's homeplace and possibly the graves of my grandfather and uncle. They were found by a middle school group in Fluvanna County called" Helping Hands", and their teacher, Mr. Michael Sheridan, who is also a relative of Sherican Funeral Home. We are not sure they are the graves, but I know from my mother, that the two persons I mentioned are buried there as she used to go and viist them after they moved away in 1910. Noone has lived there since. If there is someway to know for sure, I would like to have a stone put there for both of them. There names were John walker Pace b. 1843-abt. 1910 Overton Ashby Pace- b. abt.1870-12/25/1910 Overton Pace was murdered and that is why the family moved away after his death.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ms2001@aol.com> To: <valouisa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUISA] R. G. & Ella Thomasson > > I don't know the legalities but the first thing that comes to my mind is to > make sure the graves are marked. Apparently you had trouble finding them so > markers are either non-existent or not visible. Also - is there some way to > register it with the county so if someone decides to stick a housing complex > there, they will know the cemetery is there too? > > Bev > > In a message dated 5/6/2007 11:17:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > TENNEVA@aol.com writes: > > > In a message dated 5/6/2007 10:46:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lcarey@bcpl.net writes: > > I may have just located the graces of my grandfather > and Uncle,who were buried on property where the > family lived until 1900. I now own the property. > but there is now a new development right next to it. > What should I do to protect these graves, in the event > the property is sold after my death. > > > > You might want to check "Virginia Code § 57-39.1 - Improvement of abandoned > and neglected graveyards." Find with Google. Search for "Virginia +Code > +Cemeteries". > You probably also need the advice of an Attorney. > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUISA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUISA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUISA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 12:21:13
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] Estes
    2. Hi Anne - Thanks for your reply! I have checked my data bases and found there are many Smiths connected to the Estes/Eastes lines including several John Smiths but not the right time period. I also show a Smith Anderson connection but still, it's the wrong time period. 1. JOHN1 SMITH He married SARAH ANDERSON. Child of JOHN SMITH and SARAH ANDERSON is: i. BESSIE MYREE2 SMITH, m. HERMAN STRUNK, 1923; d. Apr 1986. Our immigrant ancestor Abraham Estes, Father of John Estes Sr, - migrated into King & Quen Co., VA in 1675. We have confirmed records of his line back to Nicholas Ewstas born 1495. In Deal, County Kent, England. But we are seeking more information on the Estes families in VA. Abraham Estes had 13 children and they were also very prolific and can be found in many VA early Counties. Since John is my 5th g-grandfather, I am trying to round out our records on him his wife Elizabeth (Nutty) Pickett or his children Thanks again for your reply! Best Regards Roy Eastes Gulfport, MS In a message dated 5/6/2007 12:34:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, famillepoupel@yahoo.com writes: Roy, I have nothing on your people but, at about the same time in Hanover and Louisa Counties, there was an Estes Smith, daughter of John and Frances (Anderson) Smith, whose name may indicate a connection with your family. I have never been able to ascertain just why she was named so. Anne LIVE EACH DAY AS IF IT WERE YOUR LAST AND - LEARN AS IF YOU WOULD LIVE FOREVER ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 11:29:03
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] Timberlakes in Louisa County & Tennessee
    2. Donna, below is what I have on a Joel ESTES. I have this one marrying Fannie BIBB rather than Elizabeth BIBB. Is this a different one but perhaps in the same family? Of course I am interested in the TALLEY connection but also the BIBBs as I descend from both families. I also have from another source that Joel ESTES who married Elizabeth BIBB died in 1871 in Louisa Co, VA. I am confused and I hope you can clarify some of this for me. Ruby Talley Smith _rubygem@aol.com_ (mailto:rubygem@aol.com) Joel ESTES. Joel married Fannie BIBB, daughter of Benjamin BIBB IV and Agnes TATE. Fannie was born 20 Jan 1800. They had the following children: + 2 F i. ESTES. Second Generation 2. ESTES (Joel). ESTES married John BROCKMAN. They had the following children: + 3 F i. Lillian B. BROCKMAN was born 1869. Third Generation 3. Lillian B. BROCKMAN "Lily" (ESTES, Joel) was born 1869. Lily married Cutler Linwood TALLEY Sr, son of Robert Cole TALLEY and Louisa F. TURNER, on 12 Jan 1897 in Louisa Co, VA. Cutler was born 1869. He died 21 Nov 1935. RESIDENCE: The home of Cutler Talley was 1.9 miles NE of Ellisville on Rt 651 in Louisa Co, VA. The town of Ellisville was once a thriving place, but has since moved across the river into Orange County and all the old buildings have disappeared. The home was raided by Federal troops during the Civil War. The property was previously owned by John Brockman and before that by Joel Estes. CENSUS: 1930 Louisa Co, VA They had the following children: 4 F i. Ida M. TALLEY was born 1897. 5 M ii. Cutler Linwood TALLEY Jr was born 13 Jan 1906. He died 6 Nov 1993 in Louisa, Louisa Co, VA. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 10:30:09
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] Estes
    2. If one has a surname like Jones or Smith or Harris, it helps to have an unusual given name, and perhaps that is how Estes got her name!!! On another rootsweb list, we had a discussion about unusual given names, and a lot of people wrote that an ancestor--or even a living relative--was named for the family doctor. I spent a good deal of time trying to determine why one of my ancestors, with a common surname, had a middle name of Farrar. I did discover that in a previous residence in Virginia, one of the tithables in his grandfather's home was a person named Farrar. There may have been a relationship, but to date, I have not discovered it. When the third baby came to my family's home, my parents pulled a name out of a hat. No relationship but... they had worn out family names on the first two children!!! E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 09:04:06
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] [changed subject] Lookin for folks in Virginia ca 1815 or so
    2. You wrote: Does anyone have any information about Mary Anne Kennon who was the wife of Samuel G Richardson? She was born about 1815 and married Samuel in about 1831 they lived in either Goochland or Fluvanna County. I have tried for many years to find her parents. Thanks Pat Response: In response to your question, I wonder whether you might find the three volumes of the so-called The 1787 Census of Virginia of help in locating the parents of your Kennon lady? (The lady herself seems to have not been born yet.) Although the date of this resource is earlier than the marriage you list, Kennon seems to be a relatively unusual name for Virginia in that time period. If it is not, then consider that other Kennons [may be misspelled--look for Cannons also] may be relatives. Frequently, we are looking in the wrong place when we do research. People--and county boundaries--were constantly changing. The so-called 1787 Census of Virginia is a compilation by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love. It is NOT a census, but in many ways, it is superior to the 1790 published censuses which I have viewed. There is a personal property [not real property] tax list of nearly every county in Virginia in 1787, including what is now Kentucky and what is now West Virginia--and whatever other territory Virginia claimed in 1787. (She claimed a lot!! But that may have been earlier.) This is how I use these books--when I am at a library which has these three volumes. The 3rd volume is the index to the preceding two thick volumes [small print with a lot of white space for columns]. I go to the index, photocopy the pages which contain my surnames--looking for variant spellings, as invariably the names are misspelled. (Even names ending with s have the final s dropped, putting the name in a different Soundex code.) Then I use these photocopies of the index pages to locate families on every page which is listed in the index. Even though they may not be my people--who knows? By being more careful the later times I used these books, I found my Harris ancestor had personal property in two jurisdictions--Albemarle Co., VA and Madison Co., KY. It was the latter place where he died, but still he must have owned property in Albemarle Co. because there is a probate case there and furthermore, his widow, gave power of attorney to the eldest son of the second family to care for the legal matters in Albemarle Co. I think the reason we fail to find our relatives is that 1) we don't watch the misspellings and 2) we are looking in the wrong places. People were always moving--tobacco wore out the land, and the second and younger sons may not have inherited the land in Virginia. The 1787 Census may be hard to find in most libraries. You may have to seek a genealogical library--or even the Library of Virginia or the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. The latter library may be less costly to order material. If you search the Form section on _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) [use the find toolbar], you will find a drop-down menu on the left side [eventually]. Click on *sort by title* Then click on R - when an alphabet appears. Request for Photocopy is what you are requesting. Follow the instructions, which are pretty clear, but read carefully. Fill out that form, send a check, and WAIT. It used to be that priority was given to these mail-in requests to FHL, but the FHL has had huge layoffs a few years ago. So things might be a mite slow. Perhaps the Allen Co. Indiana Public Library at Fort Wayne, IN may have these volumes, and they do a mail-order process. They have a website and brag that they are one of the largest genealogical libraries in the United States. What you are asking for are copies of the index pages for the surnames you seek in Virginia about this time period. I hope you find your people. After several decades, I am still searching for a LOT of mine. I generally stumble over them when looking for someone else!!! E.W.Wallace I am sending this to Harris-hunters rootsweb, as many Harrises were in Virginia at this time ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 08:57:16
    1. [VALOUISA] Online Queries Which May Get Better [or Any] Results
    2. Quite a few queries have appeared in the last few days about various families of Louisa Co.. I do occasional research in colonial [pre-Revolutionary] Louisa Co. and some of its adjoining counties. Suggestion [almost a demand] Give us some dates in your queries. I don't know whether your folks were in Louisa in the 20th century or in the 18th century. I might help with some of the latter folks. Always remember--almost EVERY county in Virginia had a parent county. (Not all-but as you get farther away from the Tideland, then the counties were huge but soon divided as soon as they could get their acts together.) Most the time, the quick way to determine what the parent county is is to go to the Family History Library catalog on _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) Type in the county [without the word county] and the State, and there will be about one sentence about the formation of the county. For colonial folks [again, prior to the American Revolution, for the most part], I highly recommend that you go to the Library of Virginia webpage [the one which ends *what we have*] and search for your surnames. Note the neighbors, the date, the watercourse, and any other landmarks. My experience is that these online abstracts sometimes leave out details which may appear in the abstracts found in the eight volumes of Cavaliers and Pioneers. I understand there are some late [1782 or so] tax lists on that same LVA website. Mostly my folks had left Virginia by that time. Thanks for giving us some dates in your queries. E.W.Wallace related to one of the early Harris families of Louisa Co., VA Go to the this weblpage for some lists of book of early abstracts of various records for Louisa Co. They are reasonably priced and may save you a LOT of headaches, if you are serious about this crazy hobby!!! _http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/_ (http://www.angelfire.com/va3/redavis/) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 07:32:07
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] "Old Home Places ..."
    2. Does anyone have any information about Mary Anne Kennon who was the wife of Samuel G Richardson? She was born about 1815 and married Samuel in about 1831 they lived in either Goochland or Fluvanna County. I have tried for many years to find her parents. Thanks Pat ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 07:30:42
    1. [VALOUISA] Preserving your cemetery
    2. Pat Baber
    3. Hey Lois, First, I would make sure the cemetery is noted on your plat and that it is reserved in the deed. I would ask at the courthouse how to go about doing that. Make sure you document the cemetery yourself, with gps, photographs and a map of the known graves within the cemetery, just in case. Make sure your family member know who is there. Give a copy of your documentation to the historical society or the VHS or LVA to make sure it is available for future generations. Beyond that, I don't know how you can prevent it being moved in the future. The Virginia laws concerning private cemeteries are at this link: http://www.iwchs.com/virginia_laws_regarding_cemeteries.html Pat Baber Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others. Philippians 2:4 Protected by www.Spam-Stop.com {5zfwwPqKAymBw34bZt} ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Long Carey" <lcarey@bcpl.net> To: <valouisa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUISA] R. G. & Ella Thomasson > I may have just located the graces of my grandfather > and Uncle,who were buried on property where the > family lived until 1900. I now own the property. > but there is now a new development right next to it. > What should I do to protect these graves, in the event > the property is sold after my death. It is in Fluvanna > county,va > Lois Carey -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/791 - Release Date: 5/6/07 9:07 AM

    05/06/2007 06:51:42
    1. [VALOUISA] Timberlakes in Louisa County & Tennessee
    2. Donna in Texas
    3. Mina wrote: > Who were the siblings of Joel Timberlake who went to Mont. Co Tn? This is the Joel Timberlake, son of Philip, Jr. & Jean Peers. This is information I have according to what I know now. **It is always subject to change as I know more. :-) Siblings of this Joel Timberlake, who m. 1 Mary Thompson and 2 Martha Perkins:: Sarah - my 3rd gr grandmother, m Abraham Estes: She did not move to TN, but her son Joel Estes did. He m. Elizabeth Bibb & settled in Stewart Co. TN, which adjoined Montgomery Co TN and had been created from it in 1803. Also Sarah's daughter Mary Estes married Alexander Monroe Seay & moved to Montgomery Co TN. Catherine - also my 3rd gr grandmother, m. Abraham Fletcher & moved to Montgomery Co TN Mary Timberlake, m. William Boyd. I don't know if they moved elsewhere. John - I know nothing of him at all. Ann, m. Richard Wright. I don't know if they moved elsewhere. James, m. Mary Massie. I don't know if they moved elsewhere. Jean (Jane?) - I know nothing of her except her birth date: 7 Nov 1790. Warmest Regards, Donna

    05/06/2007 06:12:42
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] the GUNTER family
    2. I have no relation to the Carter family but I too would like to correspond wi th anyone who has a relationship with the GUNTER family who lived in Louisa County. John Gunter, Sr was a Revolutionary soldier, enlisted out of Powhatan House. He was one son of Charles Gunter and Judith Gutterie (variant spellings). He married Susannah Harris, daughter of Capt William Harris and Mary Hudson. Connected names include: Ware, Almond, Talley, Tate, Godbey, Timberlake and many more. By 1840, the Gunter family and many related families moved to KY and then to Warren County, Illinois. Love to hear from anyone who might be connected. Peggy in CA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 06:12:32
    1. [VALOUISA] Carver Family
    2. Bernice Thompson
    3. I have been reading the messages lately, and feel a little tinge of envy, but happiness, for so many of you that have made connections with your family lines. Is anyone researching the Carver family from Louisa and Stafford? I have information from various researchers that say our line is descended from Captain William Carver, through his son, Richard. I'd like to correspond with any one who has Cornelius Carver in their line. I have exchanged messages with Lucy Carver, who is descended from James, a brother of Cornelius. Also, with Phillip Lawson, who has done extensive research on the Carvers and Lawsons. I am interested in hearing from anyone else concerning the Carver family. Bernice Thompson

    05/06/2007 05:58:36
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] [VALOUISA-unmarked graves in Fluvanna co.VA
    2. Lois Long Carey
    3. Thank you Bev. We have found what we think are the remnants of my mother's homeplace and possibly the graves of my grandfather and uncle. They were found by a middle school group in Fluvanna County called" Helping Hands", and their teacher, Mr. Michael Sheridan, who is also a relative of Sherican Funeral Home. We are not sure they are the graves, but I know from my mother, that the two persons I mentioned are buried there as she used to go and viist them after they moved away in 1910. Noone has lived there since. If there is someway to know for sure, I would like to have a stone put there for both of them. There names were John walker Pace b. 1843-abt. 1910 Overton Ashby Pace- b. abt.1870-12/25/1910 Overton Pace was murdered and that is why the family moved away after his death.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ms2001@aol.com> To: <valouisa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUISA] R. G. & Ella Thomasson > > I don't know the legalities but the first thing that comes to my mind is to > make sure the graves are marked. Apparently you had trouble finding them so > markers are either non-existent or not visible. Also - is there some way to > register it with the county so if someone decides to stick a housing complex > there, they will know the cemetery is there too? > > Bev > > In a message dated 5/6/2007 11:17:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > TENNEVA@aol.com writes: > > > In a message dated 5/6/2007 10:46:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > lcarey@bcpl.net writes: > > I may have just located the graces of my grandfather > and Uncle,who were buried on property where the > family lived until 1900. I now own the property. > but there is now a new development right next to it. > What should I do to protect these graves, in the event > the property is sold after my death. > > > > You might want to check "Virginia Code § 57-39.1 - Improvement of abandoned > and neglected graveyards." Find with Google. Search for "Virginia +Code > +Cemeteries". > You probably also need the advice of an Attorney. > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUISA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUISA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    05/06/2007 05:51:27
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] R. G. & Ella Thomasson
    2. I don't know the legalities but the first thing that comes to my mind is to make sure the graves are marked. Apparently you had trouble finding them so markers are either non-existent or not visible. Also - is there some way to register it with the county so if someone decides to stick a housing complex there, they will know the cemetery is there too? Bev In a message dated 5/6/2007 11:17:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, TENNEVA@aol.com writes: In a message dated 5/6/2007 10:46:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lcarey@bcpl.net writes: I may have just located the graces of my grandfather and Uncle,who were buried on property where the family lived until 1900. I now own the property. but there is now a new development right next to it. What should I do to protect these graves, in the event the property is sold after my death. You might want to check "Virginia Code § 57-39.1 - Improvement of abandoned and neglected graveyards." Find with Google. Search for "Virginia +Code +Cemeteries". You probably also need the advice of an Attorney. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUISA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 05:41:57
    1. [VALOUISA] Looking for 5th GGrandfather
    2. Hi Everyone- I am looking for any information on my 5th g-grandfather John Estes, Sr. Born 1701 some where in VA and married Elizabeth (Nutty) Pickett We know they were in Louisa Co. in 1765 as shown in the court recotd below: P 105-107 12 Aug 1765John Estis and Nutty hsi wife of Louisa Co. to Anthony Thomson of sd co.; L15 curr.money; 104 acres on the north rast creek... Waddy Thomasons line... Powers corner oak in John Estis line.... Estis and Goldsons line. Jn Estis, Nutty Estis Wit: Geo. Lumsdom, Wm. Garrett, Wm Terrell. 12 Aug 1765 ack. by Jn EStis and Nutty his wife ****************** Court and deed Records of Halfax Co., VA . show evidence that John Sr. did have four sons. John Jr., Micajah, Elisha 07 and Moses but there are suppose to be more. John Sr. also had a race course. We are particularly interested in finding more about: 1. John Sr 2. Spouse Elizabeth (Nutty) Pickett 3. The names of the children 4. Anything about the race course OR - just anything in the way of information or suggestions will be greatly appreciated!! Best Regards Roy Eastes Gulfport, MS LIVE EACH DAY AS IF IT WERE YOUR LAST AND - LEARN AS IF YOU WOULD LIVE FOREVER ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 05:17:20
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] R. G. & Ella Thomasson
    2. In a message dated 5/6/2007 10:46:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lcarey@bcpl.net writes: I may have just located the graces of my grandfather and Uncle,who were buried on property where the family lived until 1900. I now own the property. but there is now a new development right next to it. What should I do to protect these graves, in the event the property is sold after my death. You might want to check "Virginia Code § 57-39.1 - Improvement of abandoned and neglected graveyards." Find with Google. Search for "Virginia +Code +Cemeteries". You probably also need the advice of an Attorney. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 05:17:01
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] Martha Patsy Johnson m. Elisha Pace 1806
    2. In a message dated 5/5/2007 5:33:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lcarey@bcpl.net writes: I have seen her father as being Thomas Johnson. Would he be the one connected to Roundabout Castle She was born about 1786 and married Elisha Pace of Fluvanna Co.Va on Oct. 22, 1806 in Louisa Co.Va They had several children, one of whom was a Hudson Pace. They moved West later with several of their children. That Elisha Pace, son of William and Mary Pace, married a Patsy Johnson and a daughter of a Thomas Johnson has some support. But was "Sheriff" Thomas Johnson her father? Did Sheriff leave a will? If so that should answer the question about her parents. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    05/06/2007 04:42:03
    1. [VALOUISA] Estes
    2. The Poupel/Morddel family
    3. Roy, I have nothing on your people but, at about the same time in Hanover and Louisa Counties, there was an Estes Smith, daughter of John and Frances (Anderson) Smith, whose name may indicate a connection with your family. I have never been able to ascertain just why she was named so. Anne --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

    05/06/2007 04:34:01
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] R. G. & Ella Thomasson
    2. Lois Long Carey
    3. I may have just located the graces of my grandfather and Uncle,who were buried on property where the family lived until 1900. I now own the property. but there is now a new development right next to it. What should I do to protect these graves, in the event the property is sold after my death. It is in Fluvanna county,va Lois Carey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodger Reedy" <rreedy3@woh.rr.com> To: "Pat Baber" <pbaber@gemlink.com>; <valouisa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUISA] R. G. & Ella Thomasson > Don't you love progress. This happened to a family cemetery down the road > from me last year. Our Township Historical Society (Beavercreek, Ohio) and > the parks board worked out a deal with the developer to have all the stones > , fence and what ever was underground moved into another pioneer cemetery > that wasn't too far. The Historical Society and I searched around using the > web to find relatives for about a year while all the paper work was being > processed. I had been on the cemetery board. The developer insisted it had > to be moved because the remains were on the best lot overlooking the valley. > On the other hand ,when we lived in Fairfax , Virginia ,Lord and Lady > Fairfax were still buried in someone's back yard in our development off > Braddock Road and the developer had laid out the plans to not disturb the > remains. Better plan. I'll help you search for someone but it probably won't > help if the county gives them the go ahead. > > Marie > > Researching in Louisa county: > Shelton, Barnett, Glen/Glenn, Winston, Jones > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Baber" <pbaber@gemlink.com> > To: <valouisa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:55 PM > Subject: [VALOUISA] R. G. & Ella Thomasson > > > > Is anybody on the list researching the R. G. & Ella Thomasson family? > > I have no information on them, but I am concerned that developers are > > moving > > a cemetery that is on property once owned by them. R. G. Thomasson bought > > the land November 23, 1877. The cemetery is reserved in a deed dated 30 > > Sept. 1916, but the land has been sold to a developer for a subdivision > > and > > there is a legal ad in the Central Virginian that any interested parties > > need to respond before June 16th. > > Witnesses to the deed were Ivy L. Thomasson, Ruby V. Parrish, Ethel T. > > Hardenburgh, M. R. Hardenburgh, and Hallie G. Thomasson. > > I hope to find the cemetery before that date and, at least, document and > > photograph > > it before they "relocate" all the tombstones (if there are any). > > I had the same thing to happen to one of my family cemeteries in > > Williamsburg and their idea of "relocating it to a more suitable > > repository" > > was dumping everything, "substantial evidence of an ancient cemetery" in a > > hole at the edge of the property. It took me years for find out where > > they > > had relocated my cemetery to. I hate to see this happen to somebody else. > > If you need more information, please contact me. > > Pat Baber > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/787 - Release Date: 5/3/07 2:11 > > PM > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VALOUISA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUISA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/06/2007 04:19:22
    1. Re: [VALOUISA] "Old Home Places ..."
    2. Donna in Texas
    3. > Donna, or anyone else who has a copy of "Old Home Places of Louisa > County," I am sorry. I don't have a copy of the book, which is out of print. I just was given a copy of the one page on the McLane House. You might inquire at the Louisa genealogy association and/or a Louisa library. One additional thought: Perhaps your local library could get it for you through interlibrary loan. Donna

    05/06/2007 04:13:06