And I think one of the Usenet news groups is the proper forum to argue religion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Johnson" <wing@1st.net> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:08 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related Families > Colin, I think you may be coming down on me a bit hard. I never condemned > the belief of yours. I am not judging you at all. I simply asked a > question and now feel like I got my head bit off. Anyone who knows me, > knows I am extremely open to learning of other faiths and accepting of their > beliefs. I will not ever condemn them, it is for God to judge not me. I > hope this helps you understand where I was coming from. Valerie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin K. McCann" <oregduck@juno.com> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:37 AM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related Families > > > > The Bible says why baptise ye fore the dead if the dead rise not.God does > > nothing least he prepares a way for it to happen!If we are wrong you have > > nothing to worry about,if we are right > > then....................!!!!!Enough said !!!!!!! > > > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:35:46 -0500 "Valerie Johnson" <wing@1st.net> > > writes: > > > That is a good point. Not that I necessarily object but just don't > > > understand it. Obviously Lois and I are related to one another yet I > > > know my > > > belief system is very different for I do not believe one can baptize > > > one who > > > is already dead. I know that the Wright family and Paxson family > > > were > > > strong Quakers and I honor them as of the faith they were when > > > alive. This > > > does not mean I condemn her beliefs for I am a very open person in > > > religious > > > matters. I appreciate her explaining her belief system to me. It > > > helped to > > > understand the dates in the materials. > > > I realized afterwards that I did it to the list not her privately > > > but > > > turned out to be a good discussion starter. We all have so very > > > much to > > > learn. Thank you Lois for answering to the list too. > > > Oh, Lois by the way.... I'm trying to figure out how we are > > > related but > > > still haven't placed you in the tree. Can you help me??? I guess > > > we are > > > probably cousins. > > > Valerie > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <RepAlciere@aol.com> > > > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:42 PM > > > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related > > > Families > > > > > > > > > > It is important for researchers who are new to all this, to > > > understand > > > that > > > > their family members sometimes may have serious concerns about > > > submission > > > of > > > > family genealogy information to the Church of Jesus Christ of > > > Latter-day > > > > Saints for the performance of temple ordinances. ("I think they'd > > > rather > > > stay > > > > Catholic.") > > > > > > > > Not to take sides on it, just to point it out to researchers for > > > their own > > > > consideration. > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > In a message dated 13-Feb-02 00:15:58 Greenwich Standard Time, > > > > ljmasters@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > > > Subj: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related > > > Families > > > > > Date: 13-Feb-02 00:15:58 Greenwich Standard Time > > > > > From: ljmasters@yahoo.com (Lois Masters) > > > > > Reply-to: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > Valerie - > > > > > > > > > > Yes, your question is a valid one. I am a member of > > > > > The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints > > > > > (commonly called Mormon). We believe that the family > > > > > unit is an eternal unit; that is, we are families in > > > > > this life and we will be a family in the next life if > > > > > we live worthily of that blessing. We believe we can > > > > > be reunited with other family members who live worthy > > > > > lives and continue as a family unit. We believe there > > > > > is still a parent -child relationship that continues > > > > > eternally....that family members are linked in an > > > > > eternal chain. However, we believe that some > > > > > ordinances are only performed on earth - like baptism, > > > > > endowment and the sealing which creates the eternal > > > > > link. These ordinances are done in temples and are > > > > > sacred to us. We do not believe that because we > > > > > perform these ordinances, that individuals are > > > > > compelled to accept them. Our right to choose is a > > > > > God-given right and we can choose to accept or reject > > > > > these ordinances as well. > > > > > > > > > > If a person does not believe in these temple > > > > > ordinances, then they would be meaningless. If a > > > > > person believes they are groundless, then these dates > > > > > attached to them are meaningless dates. > > > > > > > > > > For further information on our beliefs you might want > > > > > to link to familysearch.org - and then there are some > > > > > links from there about our beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > Hope this answers your question. > > > > > > > > > > Lois > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co. > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > >

ANY FUTHER COMMENTS from any of you re: RELIGION will only get you removed from this list. I ask at (9:44am 2/13/2002) for this to end, and no more to be said to the group. I DEMAND THAT it STOP NOW! I hate to be like this. BUT RELIGION, POLITICS, FLAME'ING will not be tolerated. DO U GET MY DRIFT. If any of you want to argue religion, DO IT PRIVATELY. I DO NOT WANT TO READ IT. PLEASE, Give me the PLEASURE of not removing you from the list and STOP NOW. RENA YOUR LIST ADM.