I can't resist throwing this oddity into the Russell/Baughzel discussion. The 1854 birth records for Russell County, VA lists: Fraley, Baughzel, 07 Jul, WMA, James A. & Margaret Fraley, James A. Fraley-Father Based on naming patterns, possibly Margaret's maiden name was Baughzel. And the name Bawsel appears in Prince William Co. VA around 1800. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: sstarks To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Thomas Bazzle - b. 1687 Doubtful this connects; but................ In our Shenandoah Co, VA Russell family history, we have a wife, Isabel Russell. Many have thought her maiden surname was Baughzel.. pronounced Bazzel or Bazzle. I have long wondered two thoughts about this: 1) Was Baughzel a German surname? 2) Was the name actually Bazzle or Bazzel (Various spellings)? For some time, I looked around the neighborhood for Bazzle families who might have had an Isabell or Isabella. Isabel Nee? Russel would have been born about 1730.. give or take. She and John Russell began having a family, said to have been born in the 1750.. one, Robert Russell gave his birth place as "Frederick Co, VA", 1754. (Pension Aplication / Rev. War) My direct, David Russell, named one of his daughters Mary Baughzel Russell. (Bible Entry made later than her birthdate with spelling by unknown person.) These Russells were surely from Ireland. (Though no record to prove) That is not much. Long ago, vaguely, I think there was a Bazzle in old Frederick Co, VA; but not sure at all now. Shirley Starks > In the recently discovered Templer Family Bible (published 1803, belonged > to > James Templer b. 1751, d. 1847), there is a listing for a person named > Thomas > Bazzle. We are puzzled by this entry and wonder what connection the > Bazzle > family had to the Templer family or perhaps to the Trammell family of > Esther > Templer Trammell who appears to have made this entry. We do note that a > John Bazzle/Bazzil was listed in the estate settlement of John J. Templer > in > 1830-1831. > > You may see a picture of this page (and others) by going to: > > _http://www.geocities.com/templerfamily/family-bible.html_ > (http://www.geocities.com/templerfamily/family-bible.html) > > Can anyone shed any light on this person? > > Thanks, > Charlie Templer > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen [email protected] > Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co.;FISHER in Fauquier Co.; HATCHER in > Henrico Co. > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person.