Thank you for getting things refocused. These "spats" are like car crashes, I know they don't concern me but I can't help but look. I am still looking for proof that my gg-grandfather, Thomas Newman GIBBS, and his father, John Harris GIBBS, were born in Loudoun Co., VA.. Here is what I am hoping to find a source for it. Thomas N. GIBBS, b. 4 May, 1802, Loudoun, VA s/o John Harris GIBBS, b. 15 Mar 1775, Loudoun, VA J. H. GIBBS married Nancy E. SORRELL on 2 Feb 1799 Any help appreciated. Jane

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