Pat, As usual, thanks for your prompt reply. I think that old note must have been wrong to begin with and later on we found that John J. Templer estate settlement with your help and I have copies of it. He is one of the few Templer children to remain in Virginia along with Esther Templer Trammell. My guess is something got scrambled in that old note with the William Thatcher you listed just above the John Templer estate. Probably just did not recognize the change in references when it was written down. The Thomas Templer and son, Stacy you listed are my 3rd and 2nd great grandfathers. In 1835, while on their way through Ohio, Stacy married in Knox County and then both couples are in Coles County, IL, in 1840. So they obviously left shortly after the 1834 list was rendered. Thanks, Charlie Templer