Tosca, I have a dob for William Enoch Francis of before 1778. He married Ann Dulin 17 Sep 1798. They had sons John(1 Sep 1800), Thomas(12 Feb 1803) and William(c.1814), and daughter Elizabeth A.(12 Dec 1816) who married Stephen W. McCarty. I have more information on all the children if you want. I do not have parents for William Enoch Francis. Ann Dulin(c.1782 Loudoun Co) was the daughter of Thaddeus(c.1749 Fairfax Co.) and Elizabeth Powell(1750-a. 1828 b.Fairfax Co.) Thaddeus and Ann were married 1769 in Fairfax Co. Lots of brothers and sisters. Elizabeth Powell was the daughter of Joseph Powell and Sarah Overhall. I do not have more on either line. Thaddeus Dulin was the son of John Dulin (c.1718-a.1791) and Winifred Atwell (c.1734-b. 1791) John was the son of William Dulin(g) (c1690-c1757) and Elizabeth (-1760). That is the end of the Dulin line. I do not have any more on Winifred Atwell. William Enoch Francis and Ann Dulin's son Thomas and his wife Sarah Mount had a son William Enoch Francis(1832-1855). Does this help? As you can see, all I have as a dob is 'before 1778' I have not found another WEF during that time frame, so either, or actually both if they are the same person, could be this William Enoch Francis. The sons could easily be named after (1) John for Ann's grandfather, (2) Thomas for Enoch's father. I find that he is normally found as Enoch Francis. About 1800, Thaddeus Dulin and his entire family left Loudoun and went west EXCEPT, Ann who was married to Enoch Francis, and Rebecca who was married to John Dulin. Let me know if you want an entire print-out with footnotes. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tosca" <tkwhsimms@hovac.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Attn: Betty Frain | Hi Betty, | | Could you please give me a short lesson? | | You have a (first cousin 4 times removed) William Enoch Francis married to Ann Dulin. | Could you please let me know his dob and place, his parents names if you know them, Ann's dob and her parents names? | | I think I have one b 1782 to Thomas and Mary, md to Ann Dulin | and one b 1766 w/no parents md to Ann Dulin. | | Thank you so very much. | Tosca | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. | To contact Listowner: | Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Search this list's archived messages! | http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message