Lois, I helped a Eulah Wright restore her home after an oil burner went crazy and covered the house with soot. The last I remember of her was that she was still living in Broad Run Farms in Sterling VA. lee.lichvar@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Lois Masters [mailto:ljmasters@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 9:10 AM To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] RE: Who was Susan Byrne of Waterford? Wright/Beall Connection Bronwen - Please forgive my delay in replying. Thanks so much for the information which you sent. I am in almost continual contact with Susan McIntyre and have shared information with Sue Beach...working on the descendants of Anthony Wright. Although I am a descendant through Anthony Wright of near Waterford (whose origins were in Bucks Co., Pa), my lineage is through other than the line involving Susan Byrne. We are attempting to document the Wrights in the Loudoun Co., Virginia area. Just out of curiosity, would you suppose that those black Wrights in the area of Waterford were descendants of Anthony Wright or his sons through slaves? Just from my memory, I do recall that Anthony had at least one slave. And in other branches of the Wright family, there was at least one instance of a male Wright owning numerous slaves (per Loudoun Co Deed Book). Thanks for sharing your information Lois --- John and Bronwen Souders <souders_j@mediasoft.net> wrote: > Marty, Lois and others, > > Whew! This is starting to get complicated! I > acknowledge MY typo, not my > husband's, and you caught me in discovering, after I > sent the message, about > the entry of one Susana Burns with Mary Ann > Graves.--It appears that there > may be at least two Susana's or that the age is > wrong, but that is another > matter.There are also Jeremiah and Thomas Byrns > listed in Louisa's book. > > But obviously the "Waterford" in the question caught > my eye and much of the > information I provided was what we knew of the > Waterford Susanah. The age > of the Waterford one in 1850 of "86" makes it > _roughly_ right for the > apprenticed one--I have found census ages to be off > by as much as 10 years. > > We don't know this particularly Thomas Matthews > though we have scanty > records of several, who may have been Quakers.... > > But I am not pushing one way or another. The > question was re the Waterford > one and I was presenting info I had available; I may > not have qualified it > enough. I welcome further input. > > Bronwen > > ---Original Message----- > From: Marty Hiatt [mailto:martyhiatt@starpower.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 1:04 PM > To: John and Bronwen Souders; > VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Who was Susan Byrne of Waterford? > Wright/Beall Connection > > > Ok, just because you asked for it. From Louisa's ABC > book (Apprentices, > Bastards, and poor Children) page 44: > Susanna Burns was 15 years old in 1787, and bound or > apprenticed in 1788 (a > typo correction, not 1778). There's no mention of > her being "colored," or > mulatto, so first I would want to know why you think > she is the same as > Susan Burns of Waterford in 1850? Was Thomas > Matthews an African American? > > >From page 52: Susanna Byrne (Byrns) 3 years old in > 1790, was bound or > apprenticed (there is a difference, and the book > doesn't say which) to Mary > Ann Graves in 1791. Reference Order Book N:154. > > There was a Byrne family connected to the Lintons. > She might be part of that > group. Then there's Samuel and Uriah Byrne who lived > near the Fauquier Co. > line > > Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS > "Document what you find, listen to what you are > told, and especially, love > and respect your work." John Morris > > CGRS is a service mark of the Board for > Certification of Genealogists, > used under license after periodic evaluations by the > Board. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John and Bronwen Souders > <souders_j@mediasoft.net> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 6:35 PM > Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] RE: Who was Susan Byrne of > Waterford? Wright/Beall > Connection > > > > Lois, > > > > Well. I/we (my husband and I who collect, and he > computerizes, Waterford > > data) have some info on one Susanna Burns/Byrnes > who may or may not be the > > same as the one you ask about. I had hoped to > send you a lot more, but > > today being Friday of TG holiday, I found both > Balch and the courthouse > > closed. So, more on Monday or Tuesday. Meanwhile, > this is what we have. > > All info (except day and month of her birth) is > sourced and I can send > that > > to you if you need--meanwhile, I will just write > the info, but give up > front > > credit to Louisa Hutchison's wonderful > "Apprentices, Poor Children & > > Bastards, Loudoun Co., VA, 1757-1850" from which > the earliest info came. > > > > She was born 30 September 1772 in Virginia; and > was apprenticed to one > > Thomas Matthews on 14 January 1778. In > Waterford's 1830 census, she > heads > > a household containing 1M30-40, 1F40-50(self), 1 > F<10; and in 1840, heads > a > > household containing 1M 50-60; 1F 10-15, 1F 60-70 > (self) respectively. In > > the 1850 Waterford census she is described as: > "black, illiterate, 86 > [years > > of age], living alone, real estate valued at > $150"; On the 1853-54 map of > > the village which appears as a corner element of > Yardley Taylors county > map > > of the same date, her name appears on a lot on > Second Street that I happen > > to know is lot 61 of Mahlon Janney's "Auction", > the 64 lots that were sold > > at his death in 1812. If you check the Waterford > Foundation's website at > > www.Waterfordva.org and check the walking tour on > Second Street, the > present > > house is number 15619, "The Shawen House." > > > > I have a set of the records of all the "Free > Negroes 1851-1859 Over the > Age > > of 12" listed for tax purposes in the three tax > districts of Loudoun > County > > and Susan Burns...or spelling variants does not > appear there, so perhaps > she > > died early 1851? As I recall, LoCo death records > don't begin until 1856. > > > > I was hoping to complete the chain of title today > but could not. Froom > the > > late John Divine's records, I know that Mahlon > Janney's executors sold the > > lot to Mary Fox (LoCo Deed Book 2S148, no date > given) then John's records > > show a gap until August 9 1853 in 5K337, one > WILLIAM G. WRIGHT sells to > > William Nettle. > > > > I would guess that William Wright is white, as > William Nettle certainly > is, > > BUT there is a black Alfred Wright who is a > minister in Leesburg a few > > years later. > > > > Can Marty Hiatt help here?? The white Wright > family is, of course, a huge > > family and is the object of much discussion with > Sue Beach, Susan McIntyre > > and myself on a side chat at the moment.... > > > > Anyway, That is what we have on Susan/Susannah at > the moment. More as I > > find it. > > > > Bronwen Souders in Waterford > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lois Masters [mailto:ljmasters@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 11:03 PM > > To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Who was Susan Byrne of > Waterford? Wright/Beall > > Connection > > > > > > Hello - > > > > Can any one out there tell me about Susan Byrne? > > > > Here is the backgound information: > > > > Robert E. Beal(l) married Susanna Wright 6 Mar > 1832 in > > Loudoun Co.. Susanna Wright was the sister of > Alfred > > Wright. Both Susanna and Albert were children of > John > === message truncated === ===== My personal website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~virginiawesttooregon The complete database of our family history: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familylibrary/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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