Tosca, Evergreen Mills is in Loudoun County, VA, south of Leesburg. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tosca" <tkwhsimms@hovac.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Francis | Patti, | A time frame and the location of Evergreen Mills would help determine if | your family came from VA. | Tosca | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: <PattiB9460@aol.com> | To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:34 PM | Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Francis | | | > My g-grandfather's second wife was Minnie Francis Johnston, of Evergreen | > Mills. She was the daughter of James Johnston and Mariah (I believe) | > Francis. | > I do not know much about this family. Did they come from Virginia? | > Patti | > | > | > ************** | > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. | > | > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll | > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us | > something about your Brick Wall person. | > To contact Listowner: | > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | > Search this list's archived messages! | > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | > ------------------------------- | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | > quotes in the subject and the body of the message | > | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. | To contact Listowner: | Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Search this list's archived messages! | http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

June or Pat, or anyone else, Do you have any references to a Stohr family in Loudoun around 1750s-1770s? LDS site shows that Benjamin Johnson married Anna Maria Stohr and had Hannah, who married Joseph Puller. I appreciate any info that comes to light. Tosca

To all fellow researchers, I thought I'd share what I've learned about how to interpret and plot ancestor's land from the descriptions in land grants, and if I am incorrect in my methods, please correct me. After getting a scanned copy of my ancestor Valentine Holyfield's original land grant from March 1729 of the Virginia's Northern Necks, I became interested if it was possible to plot the boundaries of his 342 acres to scale and perhaps find where the original land boundaries are today, since discovering it's location 5.5 miles south of Leesburg,VA. After studying a copy of a book on early 18th century surveying & plotting, I came up with my best guesstimate of how to interpret the compass angle if you will of a given line or boundary of a property discription and it's length. So what I found if I am correct, and I tested my findings on a record of a land survey of a John Mercer who has drawn to scale his property in Southern Virginia from 1741, and my drawing matched perfectly with his recoreded drawing. So, first I discovered that when a given line or boundary of a property discription says basically from point (A) start at a scrubby oak and thence North 37 degrees,West; 112 poles to (B)......; you interpret first the compass heading or angle of the line from point (A) to point (B) by calculating North (as 360 degrees since you are then to plot an angle or heading towards the west direction on the compass), then 37 degrees-West means you take 360 degrees and subtract 37 degrees since you are heading towards West which is a heading less than the numerical number for North,360 degrees,and when you subtract 37degrees from 360 degrees, you come up with 323 degrees as the actual compass heading or angle for the property boundary that runs from point (A) to point (B). Now you need to know how far point (B) is from point (A) in order to plot it accurately. The term "poles" in the 18th century was 16.5 feet in length. You can research how a pole distance was determined and set as a standard youself. So to calculate the distance of the property line from point (A) to point (B), you simply multiply the number of poles by 16.5 feet; so in the above example you have stated a distance of 112 poles. 112 poles mul- tiplied by 16.5 feet equalls 1,848 feet. So you draw the first property boundary line from point (A) to point (B) at an angle of 323 degrees and a distance to scale of 1,848 feet and simply repeat these calculations for the remaining sides of the property discription till you get back to the beginning which is point (A) and you will have a drawing to scale of your ancestor's land from the 18th century. What is ironic for me is when I first plotted John Mercer's land based on his discription and it matched his drawing to scale in his notes, I then plotted my ancestor's property from 1729 and it did not work out. Seems that when my ancestor's 1729 property was recorded, it was recorded wrong. The last side of my ancestor's property heads south instead of north and is way too short to arrive back at the beginning of point (A). So any comments would be welcomed and.......by the way, the last time I requested infor- mation, someone was nice enough to send it to me, but I had trouble with my computer and didn't get to thank who ever it was......too long ago now. So I appreciate who ever sent me info when I requested it! Blessings, James A. Holifield

This is part of what I sent directly to Patti concerning Evergreen Mills. Note that the James W. Johnston mentioned below is one of the persons she is seeking information about. Minnie Francis Johnston was b. 8 July 1872 and d. 12 Feb 1941. The following is from Volume 2 of the series "Loudoun Discovered" by Eugene Scheel: .... for on December 2, 1855, when Henry and Elizabeth Ball sold the 102-acre "Ball's Mill" property, its cost to Thomas L. Ellzey was $8,000. Thomas Ellzey persevered as miller until after the war, selling out to James and Martha Mageath, who on January 18, 1875, sold the 14-acre Ball's Mill property to James W. Johnston for $6,000. Determined to get things going again, Mr. Johnston persuaded President Ulysses S. Grant to approve a post office at the mill and to appoint Mr. Johnston as first postmaster. Not content with the name of Ball's Mill, but not so brash as to use his own name, he took the suggestion of neighbor Billy Mitchell, who thought the varied green foliage in the spring so pretty: Why not "Evergreen"? On July 12, 1875, the Evergreen Mills Post Of­fice opened, housed in a combination frame store and dwelling that Mr. Johnston had built across the road from the mill. As the Old Caro­lina Road had seen its through-traffic taken over by the Aldie Pike (Route 15) to the west, few felt the need for a bridge at the mill. However, upon Mr. Johnston's prodding, on July 25, 1892, the board of supervi­sors "Resolved that the sum of $6,500 be appropriated to build a Bridge over Goose Creek at Evergreen Mill." The iron-truss bridge was taken down in 1973. .... James Johnston stayed on as miller until 1895 and as postmaster and storekeeper until his death in 1897. After three successors in two years, John Orr Daniel took over the three jobs in 1899, buying the 14-acre mill property on November 15. For the first time in a deed, the property was called "Evergreen Mill." Old names die hard in Virginia. The road was known as Ball's Mill Road through the first decade of the 20th century. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <PattiB9460@aol.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Francis > My g-grandfather's second wife was Minnie Francis Johnston, of Evergreen > Mills. She was the daughter of James Johnston and Mariah (I believe) > Francis. > I do not know much about this family. Did they come from Virginia? > Patti Additional information Patti provided privately: Dr. James Tasker Jones, b. 15 July 1862 and d. 6 June 1946 was her husband. Minnie Francis Johnston was b. 8 July 1872 and d. 12 Feb 1941. Her middle name is Francis, but often misspelled "Frances." Her mother was a Francis, and Minnie's middle name was for this family. That's about all I know about the Francis family, except that there were a couple of brothers, a sister Ethel, and another one named Mary; and we heard that her father was once the miller at Evergreen Mills. They were active in some of the Methodist Camp Meetings of their day and I have a wonderful OLD photo of them with a lot of people in one of these meetings. That's about all I know of her ancestry. >

There is a Tunis STOLL/STULL on the Tithables in 1767 and 1769. That is the closest name to STOHR that appears on those lists. >From "Index to Loudoun Co Deed Books 2V-3D" by Pat Duncan: Bk:Pg: 2W:163 Date: 20 Dec 1817 Returned to court: 13 Apr 1818 William NOLAND & John SINCLAIR (Commrs apptd 1 Jun 1817 in chancery PULLER vs PULLER) to Leven LUCKETT of Ldn. B/S of 1/15th of 100+a late the property of James JOHNSTON dec'd and being also ½ share of land allotted to Joseph PULLER, James PULLER, Susannah BOZEL w/o Walter BOZZEL, Samuel PULLER & Elizabeth PULLER heirs of Hannah PULLER dec'd. Wit: T. D. PEYTON, Samuel NOLAND, Lloyd NOLAND, John THOMAS, Albert O. POWELL, J. L. DREAN. Delivered pr order filed 14 Feb 1825. >From the Loudoun Co. Minute Books: Minute Book 2, 9 December 1817 PULLER &c vs PULLER &c - in chy - conditional decree of 13 May 1817 set aside except for apptmt. of Casper JOHNSON as Guardian Ad litem of Saml. PULLER & Elizabeth PULLER orphans of Joseph PULLER & wife Hannah dec'd. Ct. decrees ½ share of land which was allotted to Plaintiffs and Defendants Joseph PULLER, James PULLER, Susannah BOZZLE w/o Haltor BOZZLE, Samuel PULLER and Elizabeth PULLER heirs of Hannah PULLER dec'd containing 1/15th of 118½a late the prop. of James JOHNSON dec'd to be sold by Commrs. Commrs. to divide land allotted to Jane JOHNSTON of land of James JOHNSTON dec'd into 6 shares and allot to Plaintiff Jane JOHNSTON 1 share, to Elizabeth McMULLEN 1 share, to Phebe ROBERTS w/o Henry ROBERTS 1 share, to Sarah WILSON wife of John WILSON 1 share, to Defendant Casper JOHNSTON 1 share and to Plaintiff Elizabeth JOHNSTON, Jane JOHNSTON the younger, James JOHNSTON and Rachel RANDLE w/o William RANDLE 1 share. Appt. Burr POWELL, William NOLAND, Wm. COOKE, Wm. H. HANDY, Ezekiel MOUNT, James HIXON, Daniel VERNON & Jno. SINCLAIR as Commrs. There might be more information in the chancery suit papers. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tosca" <tkwhsimms@hovac.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Family name of STOHR > June or Pat, or anyone else, > > Do you have any references to a Stohr family in Loudoun around > 1750s-1770s? > > LDS site shows that Benjamin Johnson married Anna Maria Stohr and had > Hannah, who married Joseph Puller. > > I appreciate any info that comes to light. > > Tosca > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Patti, A time frame and the location of Evergreen Mills would help determine if your family came from VA. Tosca ----- Original Message ----- From: <PattiB9460@aol.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Francis > My g-grandfather's second wife was Minnie Francis Johnston, of Evergreen > Mills. She was the daughter of James Johnston and Mariah (I believe) > Francis. > I do not know much about this family. Did they come from Virginia? > Patti > > > ************** > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

First, here is the abstract from "Index to Loudoun Co. Wills 1757-1850" by Hutchison: BEAVERS, Thomas Sr. Book:Page A:269 Date of will: 28 Aug 1770 Received in Court: 8 Oct 1770 Carlile, David, executor Beavers, William, Son Beavers, Thomas, Son Beavers, Robert, Son Beavers, Martha, Wife Beavers, Joseph, Son Beavers, Samuel, Youngest Son Beavers, John, Son Beavers, James, Son Beavers, William Sr., executor Clack, Spencer, witness Beaty, William, witness Beaty, Andrew, witness Farmer. £500 bond, security Anthony RUSSELL & Abraham WARFORD. >From "Loudoun Co Will Book A" by the Sparacios: [note misspellings per will] In the name of God amen the Twenty Eight August one thousand seven hundred and seventy I Thomas Beavers Senior of the County of Loudoun in the Colleny of Virginia Ffarmer Being sick & weak in Body but of perfect mind & memory Thanks be given unto God for the same & calling to mind the mortality of my Body & knowing that it is appointed for all men to Die, Do make and ordain this my last Will & Testament That is to say principally and first of all, I give & Recommend my Sould unto the hands of God who gave it & for my Body I recommend it to the Earth, to be buried in a Christian like & decent manner, at the Discretion of my Executors ... and as Touching such worldly Estate wherewith it hath please God to Bless me in this Life, I give Devise & Dispose of the same in manner and form following, that is to say, in the first place I give & Bequeath to Martha my Dearly Beloved Wife the use of all my lands goods & chattles Except a certain young bay mare, & half Dozen sheep, & the above lands & Tenements goods & chattles & the profits from them arising, to my Beloved wife as above, in order to enable her to suport & Educate our children & discharge my Lawful Debts But, if she should hereafter marry then she must ( ) up the Lands to the Benefit of my children unless my Executors should think it for the Benefit of my children to continue her Longer on them, for Rents to the full value & when my youngest Son Samuel is of full age I do hereby order my Executors to Devide and dispose of my lands in the way & manner hereafter directed & to my Beloved Son William I give one half Doz Sheep as above Excepted, & to my Son Thomas I give the above excepted young bay mare. And to my Son Robert I Bequeath a certain gun & I bequeath to my Sons Joseph & James one hundred & fifty acres of land, to be taken of from the South side of my Lott & the remaining hundred & fifty acres on the North side of my Lott I bequeath to my Sons John and Samuel & if either of the four last mentioned of my Sons should Die before they have a right to possess their part of my lands if they leave no heirs then their part shall be equally divided among such of my sons as do Survive of the four above mentioned & if my wife should marry hereafter all my moveble Estate then in her charge shall be aprais'd & the value of them Reserved for my two youngest Sons till they are of age unless their Circumstances should require all or part of it for their Necessary Suport of which I leave my Executors to Judge and I do hereby ordain constitute and apoint William Beavers Senior & David Carlile my only & sole Executors of this my last Will & testament .. in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal the day & year above writen. In presence of us Spencer Clack, Willm. Beaty, Andrew Beaty The Testator before Signing the within will ordered that if his Wife nevery marry his moveable Estate should be hers intirely Except what is within Excepted and if She doo marry eh allows her to have his Sorrel mare over and above what is within mentioned. At a Court held for Loudoun County October the 8th 1770 .... [will proved and ordered recorded] Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary W Watson" <watsgw1155@yahoo.com> To: <valoudou-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Thomas Beavers d 1770 in Loudoun County, VA > Does anyone have a complete transcript of his Thomas Beavers will dated > 1770 that they would be willing to share? >

My g-grandfather's second wife was Minnie Francis Johnston, of Evergreen Mills. She was the daughter of James Johnston and Mariah (I believe) Francis. I do not know much about this family. Did they come from Virginia? Patti ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Thank you so much! ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat Duncan <GenNutLdn@msn.com> To: valoudou@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 5:07:39 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Thomas Beavers d 1770 in Loudoun County, VA First, here is the abstract from "Index to Loudoun Co. Wills 1757-1850" by Hutchison: BEAVERS, Thomas Sr. Book:Page A:269 Date of will: 28 Aug 1770 Received in Court: 8 Oct 1770 Carlile, David, executor Beavers, William, Son Beavers, Thomas, Son Beavers, Robert, Son Beavers, Martha, Wife Beavers, Joseph, Son Beavers, Samuel, Youngest Son Beavers, John, Son Beavers, James, Son Beavers, William Sr., executor Clack, Spencer, witness Beaty, William, witness Beaty, Andrew, witness Farmer. £500 bond, security Anthony RUSSELL & Abraham WARFORD. >From "Loudoun Co Will Book A" by the Sparacios: [note misspellings per will] In the name of God amen the Twenty Eight August one thousand seven hundred and seventy I Thomas Beavers Senior of the County of Loudoun in the Colleny of Virginia Ffarmer Being sick & weak in Body but of perfect mind & memory Thanks be given unto God for the same & calling to mind the mortality of my Body & knowing that it is appointed for all men to Die, Do make and ordain this my last Will & Testament That is to say principally and first of all, I give & Recommend my Sould unto the hands of God who gave it & for my Body I recommend it to the Earth, to be buried in a Christian like & decent manner, at the Discretion of my Executors ... and as Touching such worldly Estate wherewith it hath please God to Bless me in this Life, I give Devise & Dispose of the same in manner and form following, that is to say, in the first place I give & Bequeath to Martha my Dearly Beloved Wife the use of all my lands goods & chattles Except a certain young bay mare, & half Dozen sheep, & the above lands & Tenements goods & chattles & the profits from them arising, to my Beloved wife as above, in order to enable her to suport & Educate our children & discharge my Lawful Debts But, if she should hereafter marry then she must ( ) up the Lands to the Benefit of my children unless my Executors should think it for the Benefit of my children to continue her Longer on them, for Rents to the full value & when my youngest Son Samuel is of full age I do hereby order my Executors to Devide and dispose of my lands in the way & manner hereafter directed & to my Beloved Son William I give one half Doz Sheep as above Excepted, & to my Son Thomas I give the above excepted young bay mare. And to my Son Robert I Bequeath a certain gun & I bequeath to my Sons Joseph & James one hundred & fifty acres of land, to be taken of from the South side of my Lott & the remaining hundred & fifty acres on the North side of my Lott I bequeath to my Sons John and Samuel & if either of the four last mentioned of my Sons should Die before they have a right to possess their part of my lands if they leave no heirs then their part shall be equally divided among such of my sons as do Survive of the four above mentioned & if my wife should marry hereafter all my moveble Estate then in her charge shall be aprais'd & the value of them Reserved for my two youngest Sons till they are of age unless their Circumstances should require all or part of it for their Necessary Suport of which I leave my Executors to Judge and I do hereby ordain constitute and apoint William Beavers Senior & David Carlile my only & sole Executors of this my last Will & testament .. in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal the day & year above writen. In presence of us Spencer Clack, Willm. Beaty, Andrew Beaty The Testator before Signing the within will ordered that if his Wife nevery marry his moveable Estate should be hers intirely Except what is within Excepted and if She doo marry eh allows her to have his Sorrel mare over and above what is within mentioned. At a Court held for Loudoun County October the 8th 1770 .... [will proved and ordered recorded] Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary W Watson" <watsgw1155@yahoo.com> To: <valoudou-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Thomas Beavers d 1770 in Loudoun County, VA > Does anyone have a complete transcript of his Thomas Beavers will dated > 1770 that they would be willing to share? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. 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For those of you who were interested in the surname Francis. There is an obit in today's Washington Post online. The gentleman's name is Robert Francis and he was from Rockville.

Good morning Tosca, Yes, I am still in SC until May 1, and almost all my books and research are in Maryland. Oh well. I want to include two things. First is the following memo from my notes: In notes from Aunt Nell, she states that Enoch Francis lived at Goose Creek Bridge, and built the covered bridge where the Dulins used to live. His son John kept the toll gate house. This memo is from my grandmother's sister. They all grew up in Loudoun and knew members of the Francis family. The second is a message I received from Marty this AM and my reply. I hope she doesn't mind my putting it up.: Dear Betty, It was late last night when you and Tosca were writing, but I think a gremlin crept in. Do you really think Wm E. Francis, born before 1778, had a "brother" Thomas born in 1806? Perhaps a half-brother, with a much younger mother, but even that is stretching it a bit. Maybe the first son Thomas, b. 1803, died and the second man with the same name, born 1806, was another son. If this second Thomas really was born in Wales, he is more likely a cousin of some variety, don't you think? Food for thought, Ms. Marty Hiatt, CG Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency and evaluation and used under license to the Board’s associates. Actually, both dates are 'say' dates, based on 20 years before their marriages. If the birth date for Thomas is correct, he was only 39 at the time of his death. Their is lots of room there for Thomas to be much older than a dob of 1806 would indicate. I don't have any idea where William Enoch Francis was born. He could also have been born in Wales. I do not have this well documented. Some is from my Aunt Nell's (grandmother's sister) notes, and some is from a Francis descendent. I did goof. Woke up thinking about it this morning. I think I indicated that Ann and Rebecca, wife of John Dulin did not go west. That should have read Ann Dulin married to Enoch Francis, and John Dulin married to Rebecca Elgin. Thanks for the thought provoking message. I think I will put this on the Loudoun list with both messages included. Betty I think it is quite possible for Leanna to be Thomas' second wife. I do not know anything that would make that impossible. I also do not know anything to prove that. ;-) I think I missed two sons of Enoch when I was writing last night, Edward married Ann Wildman, and Lewis married Elmira Norton. I do not have dob for them. BTW, Ann Dulin is my 3rd great grandaunt. I am trying to remember who sent me a lot of the Francis info. When it comes back to me I will let you know. He is not on line so he won't pipe up here. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tosca" <tkwhsimms@hovac.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Attn: Betty Frain | Hi Betty, | I need to go to bed as it is 11 pm already, but, do you happen to know the | date of this: | Loudoun Co Will Index: Francis, Enoch Inv- 2C 30; Acct 2A- 386 & 138, | and Accts 2D 280 Accts 2C 317. | I am sorry that I dont even know where I got that info! Possibly from my | closest "fellow researcher" who made a list of all sorts of records at the | Loudoun Courthouse for us. | | There have been many postings about Thomas Francis of Chester, PA b 1759 who | married Mary Huey 1786, who happened to die in 1823. It is claimed by some | of the researchers that he is the one who died abt Aug 31 1845. They had | two daughters Mary Ann (Edward Wilson and at least 4 children-Edward | Francis, Mary Ellen, Andrew J. and Sarah Virginia) and Elizabeth (John G. | Myers, dau Elizabeth Frances b Upperville, Loudoun Co, VA 1823.) | | Al Fechlia's book "Francis History of Fauquier, Co, VA" speaks of Andrew | Francis, of Maryland? and then Fauquier with sons Alexander (Millicent Ann | Lovelace) went to MD, Margaret (the only female proven as she is buried next | to or in plot of Broad Run Baptist Cemetery, New Baltimore, Fauquier Co, Va, | belonging to Andrew Francis, Jr.), Thomas b abt 1765 (Mary ??, of Fauquier | with a son William Enoch b abt 1782), Joseph (Sibella/Sabitha Holmes, of | Fauquier), William, Patrick Henry (Sarah Cockrell and lots of children to | WV), Henry (Rebecca) of Fauquier, and Andrew, Jr (Elizabeth Hume, many | children, of Fauquier.) | | I have many references to E. and Enoch Francis in Fauquier Minute Books. | One reference says E. Francis (Loudoun) | I have only one Enoch Francis census record: | 1820 VA LOUDOUN NO TWP LISTED Series: M33 Roll: 137 P 143 | Francis, Enoch 1M -10 2M 10-16 1M 16-18 2M 16-26 1M 45+ 2F -10 1F | 26-45 0 For'n 6 Agri | | Needless to say, I am thoroughly confused. | | Is it possible that Thomas Francis who was married to Mary Huey remarried | Leannah Gulick 9 Feb 1826 in Loudoun Co, 3 years after Mary's death? How do | you know 1806 for his dates (1806-1845)? If he immigrated from Wales, that | might lead us to William Enoch also being from Wales? | | I've got to go to bed - it is now 11:33. I would love to stay up most | evenings working on these puzzles, but need my sleep too! | | Any insight you can give me will help. You are most gracious to have | replied so quickly. Are you still in SC, where Pat Duncan said you were? | If so, have a good time while you are there. | | Tosca | | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Betty" <brfrain@comcast.net> | To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:21 PM | Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Attn: Betty Frain | | | > Tosca, | > | > I just realized, WEF also had a brother Thomas Francis (b.1806-1845) He | > married Leannah Gulick 9 Feb 1826 in Loudoun Co. His will is in Loudoun. I | > have that he immigrated from Wales, but I do not have a date. | > | > Betty | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Tosca" <tkwhsimms@hovac.com> | > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> | > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:37 PM | > Subject: [VALOUDOU] Attn: Betty Frain | > | > | > | Hi Betty, | > | | > | Could you please give me a short lesson? | > | | > | You have a (first cousin 4 times removed) William Enoch Francis married | > to | > Ann Dulin. | > | Could you please let me know his dob and place, his parents names if you | > know them, Ann's dob and her parents names? | > | | > | I think I have one b 1782 to Thomas and Mary, md to Ann Dulin | > | and one b 1766 w/no parents md to Ann Dulin. | > | | > | Thank you so very much. | > | Tosca | > | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | > | The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll | > Call. 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Hi Betty, I need to go to bed as it is 11 pm already, but, do you happen to know the date of this: Loudoun Co Will Index: Francis, Enoch Inv- 2C 30; Acct 2A- 386 & 138, and Accts 2D 280 Accts 2C 317. I am sorry that I dont even know where I got that info! Possibly from my closest "fellow researcher" who made a list of all sorts of records at the Loudoun Courthouse for us. There have been many postings about Thomas Francis of Chester, PA b 1759 who married Mary Huey 1786, who happened to die in 1823. It is claimed by some of the researchers that he is the one who died abt Aug 31 1845. They had two daughters Mary Ann (Edward Wilson and at least 4 children-Edward Francis, Mary Ellen, Andrew J. and Sarah Virginia) and Elizabeth (John G. Myers, dau Elizabeth Frances b Upperville, Loudoun Co, VA 1823.) Al Fechlia's book "Francis History of Fauquier, Co, VA" speaks of Andrew Francis, of Maryland? and then Fauquier with sons Alexander (Millicent Ann Lovelace) went to MD, Margaret (the only female proven as she is buried next to or in plot of Broad Run Baptist Cemetery, New Baltimore, Fauquier Co, Va, belonging to Andrew Francis, Jr.), Thomas b abt 1765 (Mary ??, of Fauquier with a son William Enoch b abt 1782), Joseph (Sibella/Sabitha Holmes, of Fauquier), William, Patrick Henry (Sarah Cockrell and lots of children to WV), Henry (Rebecca) of Fauquier, and Andrew, Jr (Elizabeth Hume, many children, of Fauquier.) I have many references to E. and Enoch Francis in Fauquier Minute Books. One reference says E. Francis (Loudoun) I have only one Enoch Francis census record: 1820 VA LOUDOUN NO TWP LISTED Series: M33 Roll: 137 P 143 Francis, Enoch 1M -10 2M 10-16 1M 16-18 2M 16-26 1M 45+ 2F -10 1F 26-45 0 For'n 6 Agri Needless to say, I am thoroughly confused. Is it possible that Thomas Francis who was married to Mary Huey remarried Leannah Gulick 9 Feb 1826 in Loudoun Co, 3 years after Mary's death? How do you know 1806 for his dates (1806-1845)? If he immigrated from Wales, that might lead us to William Enoch also being from Wales? I've got to go to bed - it is now 11:33. I would love to stay up most evenings working on these puzzles, but need my sleep too! Any insight you can give me will help. You are most gracious to have replied so quickly. Are you still in SC, where Pat Duncan said you were? If so, have a good time while you are there. Tosca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <brfrain@comcast.net> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Attn: Betty Frain > Tosca, > > I just realized, WEF also had a brother Thomas Francis (b.1806-1845) He > married Leannah Gulick 9 Feb 1826 in Loudoun Co. His will is in Loudoun. I > have that he immigrated from Wales, but I do not have a date. > > Betty > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tosca" <tkwhsimms@hovac.com> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:37 PM > Subject: [VALOUDOU] Attn: Betty Frain > > > | Hi Betty, > | > | Could you please give me a short lesson? > | > | You have a (first cousin 4 times removed) William Enoch Francis married > to > Ann Dulin. > | Could you please let me know his dob and place, his parents names if you > know them, Ann's dob and her parents names? > | > | I think I have one b 1782 to Thomas and Mary, md to Ann Dulin > | and one b 1766 w/no parents md to Ann Dulin. > | > | Thank you so very much. > | Tosca > | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > | The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > | To contact Listowner: > | Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > | Search this list's archived messages! > | http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > | ------------------------------- > | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tosca, I just realized, WEF also had a brother Thomas Francis (b.1806-1845) He married Leannah Gulick 9 Feb 1826 in Loudoun Co. His will is in Loudoun. I have that he immigrated from Wales, but I do not have a date. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tosca" <tkwhsimms@hovac.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Attn: Betty Frain | Hi Betty, | | Could you please give me a short lesson? | | You have a (first cousin 4 times removed) William Enoch Francis married to Ann Dulin. | Could you please let me know his dob and place, his parents names if you know them, Ann's dob and her parents names? | | I think I have one b 1782 to Thomas and Mary, md to Ann Dulin | and one b 1766 w/no parents md to Ann Dulin. | | Thank you so very much. | Tosca | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. | To contact Listowner: | Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Search this list's archived messages! | http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tosca, I have a dob for William Enoch Francis of before 1778. He married Ann Dulin 17 Sep 1798. They had sons John(1 Sep 1800), Thomas(12 Feb 1803) and William(c.1814), and daughter Elizabeth A.(12 Dec 1816) who married Stephen W. McCarty. I have more information on all the children if you want. I do not have parents for William Enoch Francis. Ann Dulin(c.1782 Loudoun Co) was the daughter of Thaddeus(c.1749 Fairfax Co.) and Elizabeth Powell(1750-a. 1828 b.Fairfax Co.) Thaddeus and Ann were married 1769 in Fairfax Co. Lots of brothers and sisters. Elizabeth Powell was the daughter of Joseph Powell and Sarah Overhall. I do not have more on either line. Thaddeus Dulin was the son of John Dulin (c.1718-a.1791) and Winifred Atwell (c.1734-b. 1791) John was the son of William Dulin(g) (c1690-c1757) and Elizabeth (-1760). That is the end of the Dulin line. I do not have any more on Winifred Atwell. William Enoch Francis and Ann Dulin's son Thomas and his wife Sarah Mount had a son William Enoch Francis(1832-1855). Does this help? As you can see, all I have as a dob is 'before 1778' I have not found another WEF during that time frame, so either, or actually both if they are the same person, could be this William Enoch Francis. The sons could easily be named after (1) John for Ann's grandfather, (2) Thomas for Enoch's father. I find that he is normally found as Enoch Francis. About 1800, Thaddeus Dulin and his entire family left Loudoun and went west EXCEPT, Ann who was married to Enoch Francis, and Rebecca who was married to John Dulin. Let me know if you want an entire print-out with footnotes. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tosca" <tkwhsimms@hovac.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:37 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Attn: Betty Frain | Hi Betty, | | Could you please give me a short lesson? | | You have a (first cousin 4 times removed) William Enoch Francis married to Ann Dulin. | Could you please let me know his dob and place, his parents names if you know them, Ann's dob and her parents names? | | I think I have one b 1782 to Thomas and Mary, md to Ann Dulin | and one b 1766 w/no parents md to Ann Dulin. | | Thank you so very much. | Tosca | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. | To contact Listowner: | Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Search this list's archived messages! | http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Betty, Could you please give me a short lesson? You have a (first cousin 4 times removed) William Enoch Francis married to Ann Dulin. Could you please let me know his dob and place, his parents names if you know them, Ann's dob and her parents names? I think I have one b 1782 to Thomas and Mary, md to Ann Dulin and one b 1766 w/no parents md to Ann Dulin. Thank you so very much. Tosca

I am referring to Warren County, Virginia -- particularly the area around Front Royal. Thanks again, Estelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda J Scott" <bjs724@msn.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Downs Where is Warren County? What State? > From: redtop03@comcast.net> To: valoudou@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jan > 2008 11:37:26 -0500> Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Downs> > Hi Brenda:> > What > more do you have on James Francis 3rd Trenary ?> > My aunt Gladys Gordon > married Arthur Trenary in Warren County.> > I am researching GORDON's, do > you have any connected through James Francis > 3rd Trenary?> > Also, who > were the parents of Linnie Marion Dove 1852 - 1930? I have > GORDON's > married Dove's from Clarke County.> > Thanks, Estelle> > ----- Original > Message ----- > From: "Brenda J Scott" <bjs724@msn.com>> To: > <valoudou@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:03 AM> Subject: > [VALOUDOU] Downs> > > >> > I also have pictures of tombstones on some of > these folks> >> >> >> >> >> > Descendants of James Downs> >> >> > 1 James > Downs - 1835> > .. +Elizabeth McFarlin 1780 -> > . 2 Capt. Noah Downs - > 1880> > ..... +Mary Jane Haines 1825 -> > ..... 3 Maurice Downs> > ..... 3 > [28] daughter Downs 1856 -> > ..... 3 [29] Luda Downs 1857 -> > . 2 [30] > James W. Downs 1825 -> > ..... +[31] Mary A. E. Thomas 1828 -> > ..... 3 > [32] William H. Downs 1859 -> > . 2 [1] Stephen D. Downs 1815 -> > ..... > +[2] Mary Ann Ault 1816 -> > ..... 3 [3] Mason Downs 1846 -> > ..... 3 [4] > Charles Fenton Downs 1846 - 1911> > ......... +[5] Anna Rebbecca Pierce > 1841 - 1908> > ........ 4 [6] Charles Edward Downs 1874 - 1934> > > ............. +[7] Sarah Virginia Baker> > ........ 4 [8] Florence V. > Downs 1878 -> > ........ 4 [9] William H. Downs 1882 - 1883> > ..... 3 > [10] William Hamilton Henry Downs 1850 - 1916> > ......... +[11] Linnie > Marion Dove 1852 - 1930> > ........ 4 [12] Leonard Downs 1878 - 1954> > > ............. +[13] Leah Estelle Havenner 1880 - 1946> > ........ 4 [14] > William Marion Downs 1880 - 1965> > ............. +[15] Ruth Jenkins> > > ........ 4 [16] Noah Downs 1882 - 1896> > ........ 4 [17] Montgomery Downs > 1877 - 1949> > ........ 4 [18] Minnie Downs 1884 -> > ............. +[19] > James Francis 3rd Trenary> > ........ 4 [20] John Noland Downs 1886 -> > > ........ 4 [21] Henry Downs 1888 -> > ........ 4 [22] James Downs 1890 -> > > ........ 4 [23] Norris Franklin Downs 1892 -> > ........ 4 [24] Walter > Downs 1894 - 1997> > ..... 3 [25] James Downs 1852 -> > ..... 3 [26] John > H. Downs 1855 -> > ..... 3 [27] Stephens T. Downs 1857 -> > . 2 [33] > Mariah Downs 1825 -> > . 2 [34] Mary Ellen Downs 1827 -> > *2nd Wife of > James Downs:> > .. +Elizabeth McFarlin/McFarland 1780 - 1858> > . 2 [1] > Stephen D. Downs 1815 -> > ..... +[2] Mary Ann Ault 1816 -> > ..... 3 [3] > Mason Downs 1846 -> > ..... 3 [4] Charles Fenton Downs 1846 - 1911> > > ......... +[5] Anna Rebbecca Pierce 1841 - 1908> > ........ 4 [6] Charles > Edward Downs 1874 - 1934> > ............. +[7] Sarah Virginia Baker> > > ........ 4 [8] Florence V. Downs 1878 -> > ........ 4 [9] William H. Downs > 1882 - 1883> > ..... 3 [10] William Hamilton Henry Downs 1850 - 1916> > > ......... +[11] Linnie Marion Dove 1852 - 1930> > ........ 4 [12] Leonard > Downs 1878 - 1954> > ............. +[13] Leah Estelle Havenner 1880 - > 1946> > ........ 4 [14] William Marion Downs 1880 - 1965> > ............. > +[15] Ruth Jenkins> > ........ 4 [16] Noah Downs 1882 - 1896> > ........ 4 > [17] Montgomery Downs 1877 - 1949> > ........ 4 [18] Minnie Downs 1884 -> > > ............. +[19] James Francis 3rd Trenary> > ........ 4 [20] John > Noland Downs 1886 -> > ........ 4 [21] Henry Downs 1888 -> > ........ 4 > [22] James Downs 1890 -> > ........ 4 [23] Norris Franklin Downs 1892 -> > > ........ 4 [24] Walter Downs 1894 - 1997> > ..... 3 [25] James Downs > 1852 -> > ..... 3 [26] John H. Downs 1855 -> > ..... 3 [27] Stephens T. > Downs 1857 -> > . 2 Noah Downes 1819 - 1880> > ..... +Mary Jane Haines> > > ..... 3 Charles E. Downs 1849 -> > ..... 3 Maurice W. Downs 1852 - 1922> > > ......... +Mary Elizabeth Berry 1856 - 1949> > ........ 4 Marion Thomas > Downs> > ............. +Irene> > ........ 4 Rubin Downs> > ........ 4 > Bettie Leoma Downs> > ........ 4 Clinton> > ........ 4 William Herbert > Berry Downs 1878 - 1954> > ............. +Rose Mae Case 1884 - 1937> > > ........ 4 Austin Downs 1894 -> > ........ 4 Blanche B. Downs 1894 - 1922> > > ............. +Mr. Blackmar> > ........ 4 Lula Downs 1896 - 1963> > > ............. +Walter Collier> > ........ *2nd Husband of Lula Downs:> > > ............. +Francis Campbell Kleindienst 1881 - 1950> > ........ 4 > Hughston Elmore Downs 1897 - 1979> > ........ 4 Gladys Olga Downs 1901 - > 1993> > ............. +Wilson Francis Pumphrey 1891 - 1965> > ........ 4 > Arthur 1907 -> > ........ 4 Oliver Downs 1909 -> > ........ 4 Edward Downs > 1877 -> > ........ 4 Fannie Downs 1878 -> > ..... 3 [28] daughter Downs > 1856 -> > ..... 3 [29] Luda Downs 1857 -> > . 2 [30] James W. Downs > 1825 -> > ..... +[31] Mary A. E. Thomas 1828 -> > ..... 3 [32] William H. > Downs 1859 -> > . 2 [33] Mariah Downs 1825 -> > . 2 [34] Mary Ellen Downs > 1827 -> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> To: valoudou@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 > 01:22:56 -0500> > >> Subject: [VALOUDOU] Downs> > 1910 census> > Name: > William Downs > This is > >> all I could find with a quick look.> > > Janean> > Birthplace: Virginia > > >> State: VA > Age: 60 > Color: W > > Enumeration District: 0059 > Visit: 0228 > >> > County: Loudoun Broad Run> > Relation: Head of Household > Other > >> Residents: Relation Name Age > Birth Place > Wife Linnie 58 Virginia > Son > >> Montgomery 32 Virginia > > Son Henry 21 Virginia > Son Walter 15 Virginia > > >> > > -----Original > Message-----> From: valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> > [mailto:valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com]> On Behalf Of Bea and Stan > >> > Rutherford> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:33 PM> To: > >> > VALOUDOU@rootsweb.com> Subject: [VALOUDOU] In need of a little help !> > > > >> Good Day to all,> Anyone out there - can you help me? 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Where is Warren County? What State? > From: redtop03@comcast.net> To: valoudou@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:37:26 -0500> Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Downs> > Hi Brenda:> > What more do you have on James Francis 3rd Trenary ?> > My aunt Gladys Gordon married Arthur Trenary in Warren County.> > I am researching GORDON's, do you have any connected through James Francis > 3rd Trenary?> > Also, who were the parents of Linnie Marion Dove 1852 - 1930? I have > GORDON's married Dove's from Clarke County.> > Thanks, Estelle> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda J Scott" <bjs724@msn.com>> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:03 AM> Subject: [VALOUDOU] Downs> > > >> > I also have pictures of tombstones on some of these folks> >> >> >> >> >> > Descendants of James Downs> >> >> > 1 James Downs - 1835> > .. +Elizabeth McFarlin 1780 -> > . 2 Capt. Noah Downs - 1880> > ..... +Mary Jane Haines 1825 -> > ..... 3 Maurice Downs> > ..... 3 [28] daughter Downs 1856 -> > ..... 3 [29] Luda Downs 1857 -> > . 2 [30] James W. Downs 1825 -> > ..... +[31] Mary A. E. Thomas 1828 -> > ..... 3 [32] William H. Downs 1859 -> > . 2 [1] Stephen D. Downs 1815 -> > ..... +[2] Mary Ann Ault 1816 -> > ..... 3 [3] Mason Downs 1846 -> > ..... 3 [4] Charles Fenton Downs 1846 - 1911> > ......... +[5] Anna Rebbecca Pierce 1841 - 1908> > ........ 4 [6] Charles Edward Downs 1874 - 1934> > ............. +[7] Sarah Virginia Baker> > ........ 4 [8] Florence V. Downs 1878 -> > ........ 4 [9] William H. Downs 1882 - 1883> > ..... 3 [10] William Hamilton Henry Downs 1850 - 1916> > ......... +[11] Linnie Marion Dove 1852 - 1930> > ........ 4 [12] Leonard Downs 1878 - 1954> > ............. +[13] Leah Estelle Havenner 1880 - 1946> > ........ 4 [14] William Marion Downs 1880 - 1965> > ............. +[15] Ruth Jenkins> > ........ 4 [16] Noah Downs 1882 - 1896> > ........ 4 [17] Montgomery Downs 1877 - 1949> > ........ 4 [18] Minnie Downs 1884 -> > ............. +[19] James Francis 3rd Trenary> > ........ 4 [20] John Noland Downs 1886 -> > ........ 4 [21] Henry Downs 1888 -> > ........ 4 [22] James Downs 1890 -> > ........ 4 [23] Norris Franklin Downs 1892 -> > ........ 4 [24] Walter Downs 1894 - 1997> > ..... 3 [25] James Downs 1852 -> > ..... 3 [26] John H. Downs 1855 -> > ..... 3 [27] Stephens T. Downs 1857 -> > . 2 [33] Mariah Downs 1825 -> > . 2 [34] Mary Ellen Downs 1827 -> > *2nd Wife of James Downs:> > .. +Elizabeth McFarlin/McFarland 1780 - 1858> > . 2 [1] Stephen D. Downs 1815 -> > ..... +[2] Mary Ann Ault 1816 -> > ..... 3 [3] Mason Downs 1846 -> > ..... 3 [4] Charles Fenton Downs 1846 - 1911> > ......... +[5] Anna Rebbecca Pierce 1841 - 1908> > ........ 4 [6] Charles Edward Downs 1874 - 1934> > ............. +[7] Sarah Virginia Baker> > ........ 4 [8] Florence V. Downs 1878 -> > ........ 4 [9] William H. Downs 1882 - 1883> > ..... 3 [10] William Hamilton Henry Downs 1850 - 1916> > ......... +[11] Linnie Marion Dove 1852 - 1930> > ........ 4 [12] Leonard Downs 1878 - 1954> > ............. +[13] Leah Estelle Havenner 1880 - 1946> > ........ 4 [14] William Marion Downs 1880 - 1965> > ............. +[15] Ruth Jenkins> > ........ 4 [16] Noah Downs 1882 - 1896> > ........ 4 [17] Montgomery Downs 1877 - 1949> > ........ 4 [18] Minnie Downs 1884 -> > ............. +[19] James Francis 3rd Trenary> > ........ 4 [20] John Noland Downs 1886 -> > ........ 4 [21] Henry Downs 1888 -> > ........ 4 [22] James Downs 1890 -> > ........ 4 [23] Norris Franklin Downs 1892 -> > ........ 4 [24] Walter Downs 1894 - 1997> > ..... 3 [25] James Downs 1852 -> > ..... 3 [26] John H. Downs 1855 -> > ..... 3 [27] Stephens T. Downs 1857 -> > . 2 Noah Downes 1819 - 1880> > ..... +Mary Jane Haines> > ..... 3 Charles E. Downs 1849 -> > ..... 3 Maurice W. Downs 1852 - 1922> > ......... +Mary Elizabeth Berry 1856 - 1949> > ........ 4 Marion Thomas Downs> > ............. +Irene> > ........ 4 Rubin Downs> > ........ 4 Bettie Leoma Downs> > ........ 4 Clinton> > ........ 4 William Herbert Berry Downs 1878 - 1954> > ............. +Rose Mae Case 1884 - 1937> > ........ 4 Austin Downs 1894 -> > ........ 4 Blanche B. Downs 1894 - 1922> > ............. +Mr. Blackmar> > ........ 4 Lula Downs 1896 - 1963> > ............. +Walter Collier> > ........ *2nd Husband of Lula Downs:> > ............. +Francis Campbell Kleindienst 1881 - 1950> > ........ 4 Hughston Elmore Downs 1897 - 1979> > ........ 4 Gladys Olga Downs 1901 - 1993> > ............. +Wilson Francis Pumphrey 1891 - 1965> > ........ 4 Arthur 1907 -> > ........ 4 Oliver Downs 1909 -> > ........ 4 Edward Downs 1877 -> > ........ 4 Fannie Downs 1878 -> > ..... 3 [28] daughter Downs 1856 -> > ..... 3 [29] Luda Downs 1857 -> > . 2 [30] James W. Downs 1825 -> > ..... +[31] Mary A. E. Thomas 1828 -> > ..... 3 [32] William H. Downs 1859 -> > . 2 [33] Mariah Downs 1825 -> > . 2 [34] Mary Ellen Downs 1827 -> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To: valoudou@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:22:56 -0500> > >> Subject: [VALOUDOU] Downs> > 1910 census> > Name: William Downs > This is > >> all I could find with a quick look.> > Janean> > Birthplace: Virginia > > >> State: VA > Age: 60 > Color: W > Enumeration District: 0059 > Visit: 0228 > >> > County: Loudoun Broad Run> Relation: Head of Household > Other > >> Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place > Wife Linnie 58 Virginia > Son > >> Montgomery 32 Virginia > Son Henry 21 Virginia > Son Walter 15 Virginia > > >> > > -----Original Message-----> From: valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com]> On Behalf Of Bea and Stan > >> Rutherford> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:33 PM> To: > >> VALOUDOU@rootsweb.com> Subject: [VALOUDOU] In need of a little help !> > > >> Good Day to all,> Anyone out there - can you help me? Will you help me?> > >> In search of information on William Downs that was born about 1850....in> > >> Virginia.........as were his parents.........Willia,'s spouse was listed > >> as> L!> > innie M. Downs....they married in 1876....it was stated he lived in Broad> > > Run District - Loudoun , Virginia.> Know any Downs family members ? > > Anything sound familier? > Anyone know rather there are Marriage records > > online or, death records from> this area online?> Anything would be of > > great help as well as greatly appreciated.> Kindly> Bea> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> The First Sunday in each month will set aside > > for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call.> Please always put the surname you seek in > > the subject and tell us something> about your Brick Wall person.> To > > contact Listowner:> Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Search this list's archived messages!> > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from > > the list, please send an email to> VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the > > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes> in the subject and the body of the > > message> > > -- > No virus found in t!> > his incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516> > / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008> 6:37 PM> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> The First Sunday in each month will set aside > > for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. 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Name: Arthur Trenary Home in 1930: Central, Rockingham, Virginia Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909 Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Name: Charles E Mother's Name: Martha R Occupation:Education:Military service:Rent/home value:Age at first marriage:Parents' birthplace: Name Age Charles E Trenary 50 Martha R Trenary 47 Arthur Trenary 21 Neweta Trenary 19> > Hi Brenda:> > What more do you have on James Francis 3rd Trenary ?> > My aunt Gladys Gordon married Arthur Trenary in Warren County.> > I am researching GORDON's, do you have any connected through James Francis > 3rd Trenary?> > Also, who were the parents of Linnie Marion Dove 1852 - 1930? I have > GORDON's married Dove's from Clarke County.> > Thanks, Estelle> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda J Scott" <bjs724@msn.com>> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:03 AM> Subject: [VALOUDOU] Downs> > > >> > I also have pictures of tombstones on some of these folks> >> >> >> >> >> > Descendants of James Downs> >> >> > 1 James Downs - 1835> > .. +Elizabeth McFarlin 1780 -> > . 2 Capt. Noah Downs - 1880> > ..... +Mary Jane Haines 1825 -> > ..... 3 Maurice Downs> > ..... 3 [28] daughter Downs 1856 -> > ..... 3 [29] Luda Downs 1857 -> > . 2 [30] James W. Downs 1825 -> > ..... +[31] Mary A. E. Thomas 1828 -> > ..... 3 [32] William H. Downs 1859 -> > . 2 [1] Stephen D. Downs 1815 -> > ..... +[2] Mary Ann Ault 1816 -> > ..... 3 [3] Mason Downs 1846 -> > ..... 3 [4] Charles Fenton Downs 1846 - 1911> > ......... +[5] Anna Rebbecca Pierce 1841 - 1908> > ........ 4 [6] Charles Edward Downs 1874 - 1934> > ............. +[7] Sarah Virginia Baker> > ........ 4 [8] Florence V. Downs 1878 -> > ........ 4 [9] William H. Downs 1882 - 1883> > ..... 3 [10] William Hamilton Henry Downs 1850 - 1916> > ......... +[11] Linnie Marion Dove 1852 - 1930> > ........ 4 [12] Leonard Downs 1878 - 1954> > ............. +[13] Leah Estelle Havenner 1880 - 1946> > ........ 4 [14] William Marion Downs 1880 - 1965> > ............. +[15] Ruth Jenkins> > ........ 4 [16] Noah Downs 1882 - 1896> > ........ 4 [17] Montgomery Downs 1877 - 1949> > ........ 4 [18] Minnie Downs 1884 -> > ............. +[19] James Francis 3rd Trenary> > ........ 4 [20] John Noland Downs 1886 -> > ........ 4 [21] Henry Downs 1888 -> > ........ 4 [22] James Downs 1890 -> > ........ 4 [23] Norris Franklin Downs 1892 -> > ........ 4 [24] Walter Downs 1894 - 1997> > ..... 3 [25] James Downs 1852 -> > ..... 3 [26] John H. Downs 1855 -> > ..... 3 [27] Stephens T. Downs 1857 -> > . 2 [33] Mariah Downs 1825 -> > . 2 [34] Mary Ellen Downs 1827 -> > *2nd Wife of James Downs:> > .. +Elizabeth McFarlin/McFarland 1780 - 1858> > . 2 [1] Stephen D. Downs 1815 -> > ..... +[2] Mary Ann Ault 1816 -> > ..... 3 [3] Mason Downs 1846 -> > ..... 3 [4] Charles Fenton Downs 1846 - 1911> > ......... +[5] Anna Rebbecca Pierce 1841 - 1908> > ........ 4 [6] Charles Edward Downs 1874 - 1934> > ............. +[7] Sarah Virginia Baker> > ........ 4 [8] Florence V. Downs 1878 -> > ........ 4 [9] William H. Downs 1882 - 1883> > ..... 3 [10] William Hamilton Henry Downs 1850 - 1916> > ......... +[11] Linnie Marion Dove 1852 - 1930> > ........ 4 [12] Leonard Downs 1878 - 1954> > ............. +[13] Leah Estelle Havenner 1880 - 1946> > ........ 4 [14] William Marion Downs 1880 - 1965> > ............. +[15] Ruth Jenkins> > ........ 4 [16] Noah Downs 1882 - 1896> > ........ 4 [17] Montgomery Downs 1877 - 1949> > ........ 4 [18] Minnie Downs 1884 -> > ............. +[19] James Francis 3rd Trenary> > ........ 4 [20] John Noland Downs 1886 -> > ........ 4 [21] Henry Downs 1888 -> > ........ 4 [22] James Downs 1890 -> > ........ 4 [23] Norris Franklin Downs 1892 -> > ........ 4 [24] Walter Downs 1894 - 1997> > ..... 3 [25] James Downs 1852 -> > ..... 3 [26] John H. Downs 1855 -> > ..... 3 [27] Stephens T. Downs 1857 -> > . 2 Noah Downes 1819 - 1880> > ..... +Mary Jane Haines> > ..... 3 Charles E. Downs 1849 -> > ..... 3 Maurice W. Downs 1852 - 1922> > ......... +Mary Elizabeth Berry 1856 - 1949> > ........ 4 Marion Thomas Downs> > ............. +Irene> > ........ 4 Rubin Downs> > ........ 4 Bettie Leoma Downs> > ........ 4 Clinton> > ........ 4 William Herbert Berry Downs 1878 - 1954> > ............. +Rose Mae Case 1884 - 1937> > ........ 4 Austin Downs 1894 -> > ........ 4 Blanche B. Downs 1894 - 1922> > ............. +Mr. Blackmar> > ........ 4 Lula Downs 1896 - 1963> > ............. +Walter Collier> > ........ *2nd Husband of Lula Downs:> > ............. +Francis Campbell Kleindienst 1881 - 1950> > ........ 4 Hughston Elmore Downs 1897 - 1979> > ........ 4 Gladys Olga Downs 1901 - 1993> > ............. +Wilson Francis Pumphrey 1891 - 1965> > ........ 4 Arthur 1907 -> > ........ 4 Oliver Downs 1909 -> > ........ 4 Edward Downs 1877 -> > ........ 4 Fannie Downs 1878 -> > ..... 3 [28] daughter Downs 1856 -> > ..... 3 [29] Luda Downs 1857 -> > . 2 [30] James W. Downs 1825 -> > ..... +[31] Mary A. E. Thomas 1828 -> > ..... 3 [32] William H. Downs 1859 -> > . 2 [33] Mariah Downs 1825 -> > . 2 [34] Mary Ellen Downs 1827 -> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To: valoudou@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:22:56 -0500> > >> Subject: [VALOUDOU] Downs> > 1910 census> > Name: William Downs > This is > >> all I could find with a quick look.> > Janean> > Birthplace: Virginia > > >> State: VA > Age: 60 > Color: W > Enumeration District: 0059 > Visit: 0228 > >> > County: Loudoun Broad Run> Relation: Head of Household > Other > >> Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place > Wife Linnie 58 Virginia > Son > >> Montgomery 32 Virginia > Son Henry 21 Virginia > Son Walter 15 Virginia > > >> > > -----Original Message-----> From: valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com > >> [mailto:valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com]> On Behalf Of Bea and Stan > >> Rutherford> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:33 PM> To: > >> VALOUDOU@rootsweb.com> Subject: [VALOUDOU] In need of a little help !> > > >> Good Day to all,> Anyone out there - can you help me? Will you help me?> > >> In search of information on William Downs that was born about 1850....in> > >> Virginia.........as were his parents.........Willia,'s spouse was listed > >> as> L!> > innie M. Downs....they married in 1876....it was stated he lived in Broad> > > Run District - Loudoun , Virginia.> Know any Downs family members ? > > Anything sound familier? > Anyone know rather there are Marriage records > > online or, death records from> this area online?> Anything would be of > > great help as well as greatly appreciated.> Kindly> Bea> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> The First Sunday in each month will set aside > > for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call.> Please always put the surname you seek in > > the subject and tell us something> about your Brick Wall person.> To > > contact Listowner:> Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Search this list's archived messages!> > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from > > the list, please send an email to> VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the > > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes> in the subject and the body of the > > message> > > -- > No virus found in t!> > his incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516> > / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008> 6:37 PM> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> The First Sunday in each month will set aside > > for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in > > the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person.> To > > contact Listowner:> Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Search this list's archived messages!> > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from > > the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the > > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message> > _________________________________________________________________> > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> > http://biggestloser.msn.com/> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > > something about your Brick Wall person.> > To contact Listowner:> > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Search this list's archived messages!> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. 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Thanks Pat. You always come through for me. In this case, Wm. & Betsy are not familiar in my Dove line of research. I'll keep this for future reference. Regards, Estelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Duncan" <GenNutLdn@msn.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Downs > >From the Loudoun Co. Marriage Register: > date of marriage: 13 Apr 1876 > groom: Wm. H. Downs, 26y, single, farmer, b. and resides Loudoun, parents: > Stephen & Mary > bride: Linnie M. Dove, 24y, single, b. and resides Loudoun, parents: Wm. & > Betsy > performed by J. S. Gardner > > Pat Duncan > GenNutLdn@msn.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "E&B Gordon" <redtop03@comcast.net> > To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:37 AM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Downs > > .... > > Also, who were the parents of Linnie Marion Dove 1852 - 1930? I have > GORDON's married Dove's from Clarke County. > > Thanks, Estelle > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message