The only mention of a Thornton Swartz on the Loudoun Co. Personal Property Tax Lists is: 1818A Second District Swart, Thornton He is not listed on the 1820 or 1830 Loudoun Co. Census. No mention in the will books up to 1880 nor the deed books up to 1846. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nmwil@aol.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] SWART(Z) and VENANDER > I am looking for the parents of Thornton Swartz and Margaret Venander. > They > were married 9 MAY 1822 in > Loudon County.Thornton was born in Loudon County in 1793. Thornton Swartz > was in the War of 1812 36 REG'T (RENNO'S) Virginia Regiment. Thorton and > Margaret later moved to Ohio and spelled their last name Swart. They had > at least > one child in Loundon County-Nancy. > Thank you, Nancy Wilson >

I have recently found that the minister who married my James FULTON and Mary NEWMAN in 1833 was affiliated with the Baptist Church. This is a little unusual since most FULTONs of this time period were Presbyterian. Therefore, if I can find a Baptist Church in the Loudoun Co./Prince William Co. area which has FULTONs on the membership lists, it may provide a lead in tracking down my James FULTON's parents and siblings. Would those of you who have such membership lists please check to see if there are any FULTONs. Thank you very much, Brenda _bbooker955@aol.com_ (mailto:bbooker955@aol.com) **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

With activity on the list picking up slightly, and as someone who answers numerous queries, I would like to make some suggestions for writing a effective query. Be specific. Remember that you are asking someone to spend their time looking at their resources for information you are seeking, so the more specific you can be the better. Don't ask for all information on a particular surname. Give details. Be specific as to the person you are looking for. List any possible spouse, possible children, pertinent dates or time periods for vital events. If you think or know they entered or left the county at some time, indicate so. The more information you give to narrow down the references that should be searched the better chance you have of receiving good information. Keep track of references you have already checked. When someone posts that they have a reference, be sure that you have not already checked that reference before asking for a lookup. The Loudoun County USGENWEB page (http://www.rootsweb.com/~valoudou/loudoun.html) has a list of references and volunteers that are always available, as well as other useful links. See the volunteer webpage at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~valoudou/lookups.htm If you have hit a brick wall, ask a query about a known sibling or other relative. Someone may have information about the relative that could be beneficial. Thank the responding person. This lets the person answering your query know that you appreciate their efforts and whether the information was of value or not. So post a query and make it an effective one! Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com

I did not find a marriage for a James Fulton to a Mary Newman in the marriage books covering that period. Did the marriage occur in Loudoun and who was the minister? No Fultons on the records of North Fork Baptist, Goose Creek Baptist (Fauquier), or Mt. Hope Baptist. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <BBooker955@aol.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Baptist Church members > I have recently found that the minister who married my James FULTON and > Mary > NEWMAN in 1833 was affiliated with the Baptist Church. This is a little > unusual since most FULTONs of this time period were Presbyterian. > Therefore, if > I can find a Baptist Church in the Loudoun Co./Prince William Co. area > which > has FULTONs on the membership lists, it may provide a lead in tracking > down > my James FULTON's parents and siblings. > > Would those of you who have such membership lists please check to see if > there are any FULTONs. > > Thank you very much, > Brenda > _bbooker955@aol.com_ (mailto:bbooker955@aol.com) > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dottie, sorry for the delay in replying. I checked but found no Porters in the membership lists I have of North Fork church. Sorry. Robert _____________________________________________________________ Click here for project management tools. Easy to implement, adopt and use. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3m5nqvdQPvYCbYDOw3xMdRYHOt77xCBikVDKtZYcXgyeuuea/

Attn Robert Webb Regarding your email and the book you have on Church records in Looudoun Co. VA, are there any Porters? I am continuing my search for the parents of Philip Porter b. 1750 in VA, not sure exactly where but he was in Stafford, Loudoun and Frederick Co. VA, however, I realize he may not have move but the county names changed. Thanks in advance Dottie Porter Himes -------------- Original message from Robert L Webb <bwebb9@juno.com>: -------------- > Hi, > I have a book regarding church records in Loudoun county, but just > wondered if anyone on this forum knows of records or detailed history of > the North Fork Baptist church near Purcellville. Any help would be > appreciated. > Robert > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. > Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something > about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

When you have completed the book please let me know. My gggggrandfather Philip Porter b. 1750 m. Nancy Ann Brent was in Loudoun Co, VA and I would be interested in purchasing the book when available if there are any PORTES LISTED. Thanking you both in advance. Dottie Porter Himes djhimes@bellsouth.net -------------- Original message from "Pat Duncan" <GenNutLdn@msn.com>: -------------- > Marty Hiatt and I are in the process of compiling a second church records > book for Loudoun, covering from 1800 to approximately 1850. No details yet > when that book will be completed and available. > > Pat Duncan > GenNutLdn@msn.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert L Webb" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Question > > > > Estelle, I only have about 48 names, which I think must be from the > > earliest years of the church, pre-1800 (back to about 1784). There were > > no Gordons in what I have. > > > > Pat, I'm interested in the North Fork Primitive. Could we purchase a copy > > of the records and list of members? For use in the Primitive Baptist > > library, which we conduct here in Carthage, Illinois? > > > > Robert > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. > Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something > about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I know this isn't your Philip - but I've been renting films on Minister's Returns for Shenandoah county 1772-1877 - yes, almost 100 years scattered amongst 3 films, lol. I haven't ordered the third one yet though. I HAVE scanned the early marriages, whether I had people on them or not, just because I know how hard to find they are. This is the only Porter I found on either of the films. Let me know if you are interested in the scan. Its easy enough to email it to you 1798 - John County? to Nelly Porter (2167845_837) the only other reference I have is "Records of Indentured Servants and of Certificates for Land Northumberland County , VA 1650-1795" by Preston Haynie p263 1601. 17 Nov. 1726 - Robert ROSS, servant of one Frances PORTER of Talbert County in Maryland, having run away from his said Master & taken up by Cary KEBLE of the Dividing Creek & lyeing in this County['s] goal seventy six days. Ordered that he be sold at outcry by the sheriff to pay the charges due by Law of this Country for his being taken up & Lyeing in goal for eight years & fifteen days. Order'd that he serve above the Indented time of eight years & fifty days, one year seven months and six days the prison fees & other charges amounting to Twelve hundred & eighty pounds of Tobacco. OB 1719-29, 234 - Julie djhimes@bellsouth.net wrote: Attn Robert Webb Regarding your email and the book you have on Church records in Looudoun Co. VA, are there any Porters? I am continuing my search for the parents of Philip Porter b. 1750 in VA, not sure exactly where but he was in Stafford, Loudoun and Frederick Co. VA, however, I realize he may not have move but the county names changed. Thanks in advance Dottie Porter Himes --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

In Loudoun, I have only found it as BRADEN or BREDEN, Other places I've found it in a variety of forms: BRADING, BREEDEN, BREEDING, BRAIDIN, etc. Sue On Mon, Feb 4, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Marge <msealock@mchsi.com> wrote: > Do you think the name evolved into Breeden...it would be worth a shot to > check. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Marty, We have a large collection of the minutes of the Ketocton Association. It began in 1766. The little book of minutes from 1784-1930 by the DAR - is that the minutes of the association, or of North Fork Church? If it is the church, I would be interested in trying to contact them for a copy or xerox copy. The 150th anniversary pamphlet you mentioned, 1835-1985, must be the "Regular" Baptist church (as shown on Pat's message earlier today), not the Primitive Baptist. I have some old photos of the very old brick building, containing slave galleries, of North Fork church, which show a very old cemetery adjacent. I live in Carthage, Illinois, and have been collecting association minutes for almost 40 years, and church records since about 1988 or a few years before. Robert _____________________________________________________________ Become a legal Assistant and make up to $150/hour. Click now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3oh5hz4lrD8ZeGQ7p4VyFqZYvEhOEAFDKUFcUpGNLrelxkQO/

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North Fork was part of the Ketoctin Association. You will find the most historical information in association minutes. A little book of minutes 1784-1930 was published by the DAR in 1977. A 150th Anniversary history of the church (1835-1985) was published in 1985. Someone at Balch Library in Leesburg might know if you could purchase a copy. Secondly, contact the BHS - Baptist Historical Society in Richmond, Virginia. Ms. Marty Hiatt, CG Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency and evaluation and used under license to the Board's associates.

Thomas Conner born about 1764 died 10 October 1856 married Elizabeth Holmes born about 1780 died sometime after 1870. Children George Conner Tracy Conner Alexander Conner Sally Conner Alcy Conner Eizabeth Conner Caroline V Conner Margaret Conner

Robert: How far back does this book of church records go? I would be interested in any GORDON's mentioned in the book. Thanks, Estelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L Webb" <bwebb9@juno.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:36 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Question > Hi, > I have a book regarding church records in Loudoun county, but just > wondered if anyone on this forum knows of records or detailed history of > the North Fork Baptist church near Purcellville. Any help would be > appreciated. > Robert > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Estelle, I only have about 48 names, which I think must be from the earliest years of the church, pre-1800 (back to about 1784). There were no Gordons in what I have. Pat, I'm interested in the North Fork Primitive. Could we purchase a copy of the records and list of members? For use in the Primitive Baptist library, which we conduct here in Carthage, Illinois? Robert On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:42:08 -0500 "E&B Gordon" <redtop03@comcast.net> writes: > Robert: > > How far back does this book of church records go? I would be > interested in > any GORDON's mentioned in the book. > > Thanks, Estelle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert L Webb" <bwebb9@juno.com> > To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:36 PM > Subject: [VALOUDOU] Question > > > > Hi, > > I have a book regarding church records in Loudoun county, but > just > > wondered if anyone on this forum knows of records or detailed > history of > > the North Fork Baptist church near Purcellville. Any help would > be > > appreciated. > > Robert > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" > Roll > > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and > tell us > > something about your Brick Wall person. > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Search this list's archived messages! > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" > Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and > tell us something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, I have a book regarding church records in Loudoun county, but just wondered if anyone on this forum knows of records or detailed history of the North Fork Baptist church near Purcellville. Any help would be appreciated. Robert

Marty Hiatt and I are in the process of compiling a second church records book for Loudoun, covering from 1800 to approximately 1850. No details yet when that book will be completed and available. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L Webb" <bwebb9@juno.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Question > Estelle, I only have about 48 names, which I think must be from the > earliest years of the church, pre-1800 (back to about 1784). There were > no Gordons in what I have. > > Pat, I'm interested in the North Fork Primitive. Could we purchase a copy > of the records and list of members? For use in the Primitive Baptist > library, which we conduct here in Carthage, Illinois? > > Robert

Do you think the name evolved into Breeden...it would be worth a shot to check.

I have some records of the North Fork Primitive Baptist 1831-1930 and a list of member. This is not a detailed history of the church. The following if information provided by Marty Hiatt: NAME: North Fork Primitive DENOMINATION: Baptist TOWN: North Fork DATES: 1784 ­ HISTORY: RECORDS: Originals 1784-1970 at BHS; transcription 1784-1930 at Balch; pre-1800 in print. NAME: North Fork Regular DENOMINATION: Baptist (N S) TOWN: North Fork DATES: 1835 HISTORY: North Fork Baptist Church 150th Anniversary, 1835-1985 RECORDS: Original minutes 1839-1979 at BHS. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L Webb" <bwebb9@juno.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Question > Hi, > I have a book regarding church records in Loudoun county, but just > wondered if anyone on this forum knows of records or detailed history of > the North Fork Baptist church near Purcellville. Any help would be > appreciated. > Robert

do you know who Elizabeth Conner's parents were? Some Conner's married into my Lehews so I have a couple of names of some Conner researchers I can ask. Julie in CA Marge <msealock@mchsi.com> wrote: Well one brick wall is Lavenia Riley born about 1890 (daughter of Elijah Riley ca 1838 and Elizabeth Conner ca 1840) who married Isaiah Young born 1850. Isaiah had several children by his first wife but I can't find any thing on them either. Lavenia and Isaiah Young had a daughter Drucilla who married twice the second husband was a Leonard. If any one has any info - even on the first family I would appreciate it. Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.