Does John C Griggs show up on 1830 census? John Carter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting...Holy Cow! What a Ride!

Thanks Pat, I believe he was married in Clarke but he was buried in the Goose Creek cemetery in 1875. I think his wife Lucy Boston/Bosteyan, not Emily, my mistake. Probably died soon after daughter Julia Ann was born. He is in the 1840 census with a female child and no wife. Later Julia Ann is living with her grandmother Juliet Boston/Bosteyan and is mentioned in her will. Julia Ann married my great grandfather James L. Carter and James was an executor to Juliet's will. James L. Carter married his first wife Mary Elizabeth Conard in Loudoun County in 1857, so I am seeing some travel back and forth from Clarke County by my James. John -----Original Message----- From: valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Duncan Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 1:53 PM To: valoudou@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] John C Griggs No marriage listed in the Loudoun marriage books. I believe, although I could be wrong, that the Bosteyans were in Clarke Co., but there is no marriage listed there either. Marriages that early rarely listed the parents. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Carter" <j.m.carter@comcast.net> To: <valoudou-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:46 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] John C Griggs > John Married Emily S Boston/Bosteyan in 1845. Is thee a listing of his > parents? > > John Carter > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well > preserved body, but rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, > shouting...Holy Cow! What a Ride! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Pat! -----Original Message----- From: valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Duncan Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 1:56 PM To: valoudou@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Carter-Conard Unfortunately, the marriage register did not list the parents of either party. Chas. Johnson proved the age. License of 9 Mar 1857, but no marriage date given. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Carter" <j.m.carter@comcast.net> To: <valoudou-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Carter-Conard > James L Carter married Mary E Conard in 1857. Is there a mention of > his parents or family? > > John Carter > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well > preserved body, but rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, > shouting...Holy Cow! What a Ride! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mrs. Hutchison's book covers the 1757-1850 time period. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Dempsey " <jgnl-dempsey@att.net> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor children, bastards Loudoun Co. > Pat, > > what time period does the Apprentices book cover ? > Thanks > Jim > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:37:46 -0700 > > From: "Pat Duncan" <GenNutLdn@msn.com> > > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor Children & Bastards, Loudoun > > County, VA Lookup Request > > > > Yes, that was Mrs. Louisa Skinner Hutchison who wrote the book, > > published in > > 2000 by Willow Bend Books. Mrs. Hutchison formerly worked at the > > Courthouse > > in Leesburg. She still lives in Loudoun County but does not use a > > computer > > so she is not on the Internet. > > > >... > > > > Pat Duncan > > GenNutLdn@msn.com > >

Unfortunately, the marriage register did not list the parents of either party. Chas. Johnson proved the age. License of 9 Mar 1857, but no marriage date given. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Carter" <j.m.carter@comcast.net> To: <valoudou-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Carter-Conard > James L Carter married Mary E Conard in 1857. Is there a mention of his > parents or family? > > John Carter > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved > body, but rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting...Holy > Cow! What a Ride!

No marriage listed in the Loudoun marriage books. I believe, although I could be wrong, that the Bosteyans were in Clarke Co., but there is no marriage listed there either. Marriages that early rarely listed the parents. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Carter" <j.m.carter@comcast.net> To: <valoudou-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:46 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] John C Griggs > John Married Emily S Boston/Bosteyan in 1845. Is thee a listing of his > parents? > > John Carter > Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved > body, but rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting...Holy > Cow! What a Ride! >

James L Carter married Mary E Conard in 1857. Is there a mention of his parents or family? John Carter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting...Holy Cow! What a Ride!

John Married Emily S Boston/Bosteyan in 1845. Is thee a listing of his parents? John Carter Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting...Holy Cow! What a Ride!

The Bedford Genealogical Society will hold its Genealogy and History Fair Saturday September 13, 9am to 3pm. The location is the Bedford Campus CVCC. More information is available at the web site: www.bgsociety.org Doug Cooper- Manager Bedford Museum 201 E. Main St. Bedford, VA 24523 540 586 4520 bccmdirector@verizon.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ All Roads Lead Through Botetourt The second Botetourt Genealogy Fair will be held on October 11, 2008; 9-3 ; at the Family Life Building (same place as last year) More details to come. Read about last years fair at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaboteto/botetot.html Rena Worthen, Chair. Botetourt Genealogy Club P O B 1148 Buchanan, Va. 24066 540-473-8339

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John Andrews apparently was not a very good clerk. There are several mentions in the Order Books about his neglect of duty and drunkenness. Order Book E, 13 August 1770 [p. 1] Last will of John ANDREWS Clerk deceased proved by witness Jeremiah HUTCHISON and ordered to be recorded. Certificate granted named Executor William Carr LANE, Gent. with Jeremiah HUTCHISON his security and £200 bond. for obtaining a probat. Liberty is granted Fleming PATTERSON, Gent. the other Executor to join in the probat thereof at any time hereafter if he shall think fit. Fielding TURNER, Samuel LOVE, Joseph BROWN and Thomas COCKRELL to appraise estate. His will stated that Fielding Turner be paid for his board at £15 a years which he comes due the first day of July if it should please God to take me sooner that he be paid in proportion and allowed £8 extraordinary for my burial. His books being the onliest value next to my sallery bequeathed to Mrs. Anne Turner the life of our blessed saviour done by Dr. Jeremiah Taylor; to godson Lewis Ellzey Turner my bible; wearing apparel (except my linnen which I desire Mrs. Turner to be given) to William Groves. To be buried on east side of Rocky Run Chapple that Mr. Wilson now clerk may read his buriel service. .. No direct mention in his will of Mrs. Anne Turner being his daughter. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Sulzer" <psulzer47@yahoo.com> To: <valoudou-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Rev. John Andrews question > Does anyone know if Rev. John Andrews, first clerk of Cameron Parish, was > married? If so, could you please share the details? > I am following a clue that claims Fielding Turner's (b. 1706) first wife, > known only as "Mrs. Ann Turner", was an Ann Andrews. Since Fielding was > very close to Rev. John Andrews I thought possibly this Ann Andrews could > be a dau. of the reverend. > > Pam

Thanks Pat. The reverend's will was my basis for Fielding's first wife being named "Anne". I had also heard about his less than stellar reputation. In a 2005 book entitled "Our Turner & Walker Families ..." the author states that Fielding's first wife was named Anne Andrews. I don't know where he got the last name for her but it piqued my interest in Rev. Andrews as a possible relative. Pam Pat Duncan <GenNutLdn@msn.com> wrote: John Andrews apparently was not a very good clerk. There are several mentions in the Order Books about his neglect of duty and drunkenness. Order Book E, 13 August 1770 [p. 1] Last will of John ANDREWS Clerk deceased proved by witness Jeremiah HUTCHISON and ordered to be recorded. Certificate granted named Executor William Carr LANE, Gent. with Jeremiah HUTCHISON his security and £200 bond. for obtaining a probat. Liberty is granted Fleming PATTERSON, Gent. the other Executor to join in the probat thereof at any time hereafter if he shall think fit. Fielding TURNER, Samuel LOVE, Joseph BROWN and Thomas COCKRELL to appraise estate. His will stated that Fielding Turner be paid for his board at £15 a years which he comes due the first day of July if it should please God to take me sooner that he be paid in proportion and allowed £8 extraordinary for my burial. His books being the onliest value next to my sallery bequeathed to Mrs. Anne Turner the life of our blessed saviour done by Dr. Jeremiah Taylor; to godson Lewis Ellzey Turner my bible; wearing apparel (except my linnen which I desire Mrs. Turner to be given) to William Groves. To be buried on east side of Rocky Run Chapple that Mr. Wilson now clerk may read his buriel service. .. No direct mention in his will of Mrs. Anne Turner being his daughter. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Sulzer" To: Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Rev. John Andrews question > Does anyone know if Rev. John Andrews, first clerk of Cameron Parish, was > married? If so, could you please share the details? > I am following a clue that claims Fielding Turner's (b. 1706) first wife, > known only as "Mrs. Ann Turner", was an Ann Andrews. Since Fielding was > very close to Rev. John Andrews I thought possibly this Ann Andrews could > be a dau. of the reverend. > > Pam ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost.

Does anyone know if Rev. John Andrews, first clerk of Cameron Parish, was married? If so, could you please share the details? I am following a clue that claims Fielding Turner's (b. 1706) first wife, known only as "Mrs. Ann Turner", was an Ann Andrews. Since Fielding was very close to Rev. John Andrews I thought possibly this Ann Andrews could be a dau. of the reverend. Pam --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Has anyone heard of James Carlisle of Loudoun County, VA who lived there pre- 1800?

Pat, could you tell me if the surname HOLDER is listed in the "Index to the 1782-1850 Loudon Co. Personal Property Tax Lists" by Pat Duncan? If so, would you list them for me? And what does the Capital letter, ie 1787A, after the year mean? Thank You, Shirley Holder Antrim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Duncan" <GenNutLdn@msn.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Carlisle > >From "Index to the 1782-1850 Loudoun Co. Personal Property Tax Lists" by > >Pat > Duncan. The term Battalion was used for both militia and tax purposed and > denotes a district. Only males 16 years or older would appear on the > lists. > > 1787A Second Battalion Carlyle, David and Carlyle, Jas. > 1788C Second Battalion Carlyle, David and Carlyle, Jas. > 1789C Second Battalion Carlyle, David and Carlyle, James and Carlyle, > John > 1790A [Second Battalion] Carlyle, David and Carlyle, Jas. and Carlyle, > Jno. > 1791A Second Battalion Carlyle, David and Carlyle, Jos. [Jas.?] and > Carlyle, Jno. > 1792C Third Battalion Carlysle, James > 1793A Third Battalion Carlysle, Jas. > 1794A First Battalion Carlile, James > 1795A First Battalion Carlile, James > > Pat Duncan > GenNutLdn@msn.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gketterl@aol.com> > To: <VALOUDOU@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:14 PM > Subject: [VALOUDOU] Carlisle > > >> Has anyone heard of James Carlisle of Loudoun County, VA who lived there >> pre- 1800? >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The names John and Luke Holder appear before 1800, but the surname is more often given as Holden the lists. The letter A, B, and C are for the placement on the microfilm which was used for the abstracts. The microfilm is of the lists sent to the state auditor in Richmond each year. The county does not have copies on file. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Antrim" <Shantrim@comcast.net> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Carlisle > Pat, could you tell me if the surname HOLDER is listed in the "Index to > the > 1782-1850 Loudon Co. Personal Property Tax Lists" by Pat Duncan? > If so, would you list them for me? And what does the Capital letter, ie > 1787A, after the year mean? > Thank You, > Shirley Holder Antrim >

>From "Index to the 1782-1850 Loudoun Co. Personal Property Tax Lists" by Pat Duncan. The term Battalion was used for both militia and tax purposed and denotes a district. Only males 16 years or older would appear on the lists. 1787A Second Battalion Carlyle, David and Carlyle, Jas. 1788C Second Battalion Carlyle, David and Carlyle, Jas. 1789C Second Battalion Carlyle, David and Carlyle, James and Carlyle, John 1790A [Second Battalion] Carlyle, David and Carlyle, Jas. and Carlyle, Jno. 1791A Second Battalion Carlyle, David and Carlyle, Jos. [Jas.?] and Carlyle, Jno. 1792C Third Battalion Carlysle, James 1793A Third Battalion Carlysle, Jas. 1794A First Battalion Carlile, James 1795A First Battalion Carlile, James Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <gketterl@aol.com> To: <VALOUDOU@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Carlisle > Has anyone heard of James Carlisle of Loudoun County, VA who lived there > pre- 1800? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For information about the following Fauquier County references, please email me directly. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com Available now: Fauquier County, Virginia Birth Register, 1853-1880. 5½x8½, paper, 390 pp. Fauquier County, Virginia Birth Register, 1881-1896. 5½x8½, paper, 382 pp. Available soon: Fauquier County, Virginia Marriage Register, 1854-1882. 5½x8½, paper, 310 pp. Fauquier County, Virginia Marriage Register, 1883-1906. 5½x8½, paper, 304 pp.

<wcm.genealogy@gmail.com>Whitney McKim ----- Original Message ----- From: Whitney McKim To: doreatr@rbnet.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Loudoun County Virginia lookup volunteer I have access to some court records, such as Deeds from 1893-1958 (and later), as well as some Wills. I would be willing to do lookups if needed. I need the full name of the individual as well as date ranges and I can probably find some things on them in the very least the Deed records. Just thought I'd offer my help! Whitney McKim

Am checking in again to see if there is any connection to my great grandfather Elijah Riley born 1838. Married Elizabeth German born about 1842.