Her son, Jacob T. Jacobs, was born in 1821. The 1850 census shows her as 48. There was a Emily Simpson, age 18, living with her in addition to others. Thomas was killed by lightning in 1823. "Genius of Liberty, Leesburg, VA" and "The Alexandria Herald", May 26, 1823, pg. 3. I have a copy of the article which is fairly long and tells the story in detail. He was in the house of James Mansfield on King Street. Jacobs was the proprietor. The lightning struck and demolished part of the chimney and descended to the lower floor. It badly injured 2 of Mansfield's children. Jacobs was standing inside by the door when the lightning struck him in the head. In Jacobs own house which was a few yards from Mansfield's, a big cat lying on the hearth was also killed by the lightning! Donna -----Original Message----- From: brfrain@comcast.net To: valoudou@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 3:11 pm Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Hipkins/Hammerly I need to make some corrections to the information I sent. I, too was told Elizabeth died in Mar 1860. However, I just pulled up the Mortality Schedule for 1870 and her date of death would be Mar 1870,, reported by family 147. I find that as being in Leesburg, Emily Loyd, age 33 and her four children, and a domestic Mary Lozenburg, age 17. So I will do a better search for 1860. What is the date when Jacobs was killed? Betty -------------- Original message -------------- From: dcmowery@aol.com > Thank you so much, Betty! Seems that Elizabeth ? had 3 husbands that didn't live > long after she married them. I know for sure Jacobs and Hammerly died not long > after but haven't found anything on Hipkins; assume he did, too. All the > documents from Loudoun have her married names on them and no middle initial or > anything else to identify her. Some make reference to her father, but don't say > who her father was! I can't find a marriage record for the one to Jacobs. They > must have married outside of Loudoun Co. Since Wm. Hammerly was buried with his > first wife, I think maybe Elizabeth is married with Jacobs or Hipkins but don't > know where they are buried either although I have the newspaper article about > Jacobs being struck by lightning and killed. She is definitely one of my biggest > brick walls! > > At least now I know for sure she died in Loudoun and when so I can quit looking > elsewhere for her. :) > > Thanks, again... > Donna > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brfrain@comcast.net > To: valoudou@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 2:10 pm > Subject: [VALOUDOU] Hipkins/Hammerly > > > > If my messages ever begin coming through, you will have multiple copies of this. > Sorry, but I can't depend on my present provider. > > Betty > > Elizabeth Hipkins Hammerly died in March of 1860, in Loudoun County. She is > listed on the 1870 Mortality Schedule: > > >From Ancestry: > Source Citation: Census Place (City, County, State): Northern Division, > Loudoun, Virginia; Roll: T1132_10; Page: ; Enumeration District: ; Line > Number: 12. > > > > William Hammerly, and John Hammerly (my 3rd great grandfather) were the sons > of Garrett Hammerly and Comfort Simkins. William is buried in the Old Stone > Church Cemetery in Leesburg with his first wife, Sarah Woody. > > John is buried in Union Cemetery, Leesburg. However, I suspect he and his > wife, Jane Drish, were originally buried in the Old Stone Church Cemetery. > John's son John was very active in the establishment of Union Cemetery and > though I don't have proof, because John Sr died before the opening of Union, > I believe he was moved by his son John, also a cabinet maker and undertaker. > The Old Stone Church Cemetery was allowed to deteriorate badly during this > period. In fact my mother remembered the stones being set to the sides so > the High School could use the area to play tennis. > > Hope this helps. > > Betty Frain > brfrain@comcast.net > > Researching Elgin, Dulin, Thrasher, Johnson, Hammerly, Thrift (Loudoun > County, VA) > Frain (Washington, DC/PA), Robinson, McLean, Taylor, Pettit, Hanrahan, > (VA/NC) > > Elgin Genealogy: www.elgins.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dottie Himes" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call > > > | Sorry, I cannot help with any of your Jacobs, but I just notived something > | that might?? be of some help. If you continue you search for William > | Hemmerly > | try looking under HAMMERSLY. i have a William Hammersly in my database, > but > | they are from MD, but could be some connection. This may or may not help > | but thought I would let you know. > | > | Descendants of Francis Hammersley, II, #2H > | > | > | > | 1 [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H b: Abt. 1705 d: 1745 > | > | .. +Elizabeth BOARMAN, #1W, 159-10-8, cousins b: Abt. 1686 MD m: 1726 d: > | Abt. 1741 Father: William (Boerman) Boarman, Major, 159-10 (2H) Mother: > Mary > | Jarboe, (168-4-2), #3W of Wm. > | > | 2 William HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-6 b: Abt. 1727 MD > | > | 2 Basil HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-7 b: Abt. 1729 MD > | > | 2 Francis HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-8 b: Abt. 1731 MD > | > | *2nd Wife of [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H: > | > | .. +Mary, #2W m: Aft. 1741 > | > | Dottie > | > | Dottie (Porter) Himes > | Lewisport, KY 42351 > | djhimes@bellsouth.net > | > | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: > | To: > | Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:15 PM > | Subject: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call > | > | > | > Still searching for the maiden name and family of Elizabeth ?. I haven't > | > found a record for her marriage to Thomas Jacobs or a death record for > | > her. Also don't know where T. Jacobs is buried or what happened to > Richard > | > Hipkins and don't know the relationship of the Christopher Lambert > buried > | > in the cemetery?lot she purchased. > | > > | > > | > > | > ELIZABETH?? ???? ?was born Abt. 1802 in Leesburg, Loudoun Co, VA.? She > | > married (1) THOMAS L. JACOBS Abt. 1820.? He died 1823.? She married (2) > | > RICHARD HIPKINS March 13, 1837 in Loudoun Co., VA.??? She married (3) > | > WILLIAM HAMMERLY October 08, 1854 in Loudoun Co., VA.? He was born in > | > Loudoun Co., VA, and died 1855. > | > > | > > | > Child of ELIZABETH ?? and THOMAS JACOBS is: > | > > | > ?????????????????? i.??? JACOB T.2 JACOBS, b. 1821; d. January 03, 1851, > | > Loudoun Co., VA. > | > > | > ?????? > | > > | > Child of ELIZABETH JACOBS and RICHARD HIPKINS is: > | > > | > 2.?????????????? ii.??? ISABELLA2 HIPKINS, b. 1839, Leesburg, Loudoun > Co, > | > VA; d. August 30, 1864, Washington, DC. > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth > | > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 > and > | > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. > | > > | > > | > Thanks for any help, > | > Donna > | > > | > > | > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth > | > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 > and > | > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. > | > > | > > | > Thanks for any help, > | > Donna > | > > | > > | > Child of ELIZABETH ?? and THOMAS JACOBS is: > | > > | > ?????????????????? i.??? JACOB T.2 JACOBS, b. 1821; d. January 03, 1851, > | > Loudoun Co., VA. > | > > | > ?????? > | > > | > Child of ELIZABETH JACOBS and RICHARD HIPKINS is: > | > > | > 2.?????????????? ii.??? ISABELLA2 HIPKINS, b. 1839, Leesburg, Loudoun > Co, > | > VA; d. August 30, 1864, Washington, DC. > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth > | > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 > and > | > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. > | > > | > > | > Thanks for any help, > | > Donna > | > > | > > | > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth > | > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 > and > | > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. > | > > | > > | > Thanks for any help, > | > Donna > | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > | > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > | > Call. 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Only John and Sandford Edmonds who took in apprentices. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Edmonds" <edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor children, bastards Loudoun Co. > Was wondering if there are any Edmonds in the book? > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:37:46 -0700 > > > From: "Pat Duncan" <GenNutLdn@msn.com> > > > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor Children & Bastards, Loudoun > > > County, VA Lookup Request > > > > > > Yes, that was Mrs. Louisa Skinner Hutchison who wrote the book, > > > published in > > > 2000 by Willow Bend Books. Mrs. Hutchison formerly worked at the > > > Courthouse > > > in Leesburg. She still lives in Loudoun County but does not use a > > > computer > > > so she is not on the Internet. > > > > > >... > > > > > > Pat Duncan > > > GenNutLdn@msn.com

Thank you so much, Betty! Seems that Elizabeth ? had 3 husbands that didn't live long after she married them. I know for sure Jacobs and Hammerly died not long after but haven't found anything on Hipkins; assume he did, too. All the documents from Loudoun have her married names on them and no middle initial or anything else to identify her. Some make reference to her father, but don't say who her father was! I can't find a marriage record for the one to Jacobs. They must have married outside of Loudoun Co. Since Wm. Hammerly was buried with his first wife, I think maybe Elizabeth is married with Jacobs or Hipkins but don't know where they are buried either although I have the newspaper article about Jacobs being struck by lightning and killed. She is definitely one of my biggest brick walls! At least now I know for sure she died in Loudoun and when so I can quit looking elsewhere for her. :) Thanks, again... Donna -----Original Message----- From: brfrain@comcast.net To: valoudou@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 2:10 pm Subject: [VALOUDOU] Hipkins/Hammerly If my messages ever begin coming through, you will have multiple copies of this. Sorry, but I can't depend on my present provider. Betty Elizabeth Hipkins Hammerly died in March of 1860, in Loudoun County. She is listed on the 1870 Mortality Schedule: >From Ancestry: Source Citation: Census Place (City, County, State): Northern Division, Loudoun, Virginia; Roll: T1132_10; Page: ; Enumeration District: ; Line Number: 12. William Hammerly, and John Hammerly (my 3rd great grandfather) were the sons of Garrett Hammerly and Comfort Simkins. William is buried in the Old Stone Church Cemetery in Leesburg with his first wife, Sarah Woody. John is buried in Union Cemetery, Leesburg. However, I suspect he and his wife, Jane Drish, were originally buried in the Old Stone Church Cemetery. John's son John was very active in the establishment of Union Cemetery and though I don't have proof, because John Sr died before the opening of Union, I believe he was moved by his son John, also a cabinet maker and undertaker. The Old Stone Church Cemetery was allowed to deteriorate badly during this period. In fact my mother remembered the stones being set to the sides so the High School could use the area to play tennis. Hope this helps. Betty Frain brfrain@comcast.net Researching Elgin, Dulin, Thrasher, Johnson, Hammerly, Thrift (Loudoun County, VA) Frain (Washington, DC/PA), Robinson, McLean, Taylor, Pettit, Hanrahan, (VA/NC) Elgin Genealogy: www.elgins.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dottie Himes" <djhimes@bellsouth.net> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call | Sorry, I cannot help with any of your Jacobs, but I just notived something | that might?? be of some help. If you continue you search for William | Hemmerly | try looking under HAMMERSLY. i have a William Hammersly in my database, but | they are from MD, but could be some connection. This may or may not help | but thought I would let you know. | | Descendants of Francis Hammersley, II, #2H | | | | 1 [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H b: Abt. 1705 d: 1745 | | .. +Elizabeth BOARMAN, #1W, 159-10-8, cousins b: Abt. 1686 MD m: 1726 d: | Abt. 1741 Father: William (Boerman) Boarman, Major, 159-10 (2H) Mother: Mary | Jarboe, (168-4-2), #3W of Wm. | | 2 William HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-6 b: Abt. 1727 MD | | 2 Basil HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-7 b: Abt. 1729 MD | | 2 Francis HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-8 b: Abt. 1731 MD | | *2nd Wife of [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H: | | .. +Mary, #2W m: Aft. 1741 | | Dottie | | Dottie (Porter) Himes | Lewisport, KY 42351 | djhimes@bellsouth.net | | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: <dcmowery@aol.com> | To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:15 PM | Subject: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call | | | > Still searching for the maiden name and family of Elizabeth ?. I haven't | > found a record for her marriage to Thomas Jacobs or a death record for | > her. Also don't know where T. Jacobs is buried or what happened to Richard | > Hipkins and don't know the relationship of the Christopher Lambert buried | > in the cemetery?lot she purchased. | > | > | > | > ELIZABETH?? ???? ?was born Abt. 1802 in Leesburg, Loudoun Co, VA.? She | > married (1) THOMAS L. JACOBS Abt. 1820.? He died 1823.? She married (2) | > RICHARD HIPKINS March 13, 1837 in Loudoun Co., VA.??? She married (3) | > WILLIAM HAMMERLY October 08, 1854 in Loudoun Co., VA.? He was born in | > Loudoun Co., VA, and died 1855. | > | > | > Child of ELIZABETH ?? and THOMAS JACOBS is: | > | > ?????????????????? i.??? JACOB T.2 JACOBS, b. 1821; d. January 03, 1851, | > Loudoun Co., VA. | > | > ?????? | > | > Child of ELIZABETH JACOBS and RICHARD HIPKINS is: | > | > 2.?????????????? ii.??? ISABELLA2 HIPKINS, b. 1839, Leesburg, Loudoun Co, | > VA; d. August 30, 1864, Washington, DC. | > | > | > | > | > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth | > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 and | > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. | > | > | > Thanks for any help, | > Donna | > | > | > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth | > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 and | > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. | > | > | > Thanks for any help, | > Donna | > | > | > Child of ELIZABETH ?? and THOMAS JACOBS is: | > | > ?????????????????? i.??? JACOB T.2 JACOBS, b. 1821; d. January 03, 1851, | > Loudoun Co., VA. | > | > ?????? | > | > Child of ELIZABETH JACOBS and RICHARD HIPKINS is: | > | > 2.?????????????? ii.??? ISABELLA2 HIPKINS, b. 1839, Leesburg, Loudoun Co, | > VA; d. August 30, 1864, Washington, DC. | > | > | > | > | > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth | > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 and | > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. | > | > | > Thanks for any help, | > Donna | > | > | > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth | > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 and | > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. | > | > | > Thanks for any help, | > Donna | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll | > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us | > something about your Brick Wall person. | > To contact Listowner: | > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | > Search this list's archived messages! | > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | > ------------------------------- | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the | > quotes in the subject and the body of the message | > | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. | To contact Listowner: | Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Search this list's archived messages! | http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. 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Dottie, I married a HOMESLEY and have HOMESLEY ancestors. Jeff Homersley in England says there is a good possibility that our two families are related. But he has no desire to go the DNA route to determine if such is so. Our HOMSLYs turn up in 1759 Cumberland Co., VA. She is Jane HOMSLY who was widowed in the same year. There are three children Benjamin HOMESLY is bound out to Robert BECK. Ann aka Nancy HOMESLY becomes the guardian of Stephen MOSBYon February 25, 1760. Lastly Joseph HOMSLY by court records dated February 23, 1761 is bound to James AIKEN. The dates come from Cumberland County Virginia Court Order book 1758-1762. We have Joseph's 1799 Lincoln County, NC will. Jane herself dies in 1761 with Rev. Mr. Robeert McLaurine her caregiver having to prove in court on February 23, 1761 her verbal will. Ship passenger list are of no help in determining when and where this family entered this country. I have not had a chance to look at ships from England to Virginia because they are in theVirginia Historical Library in Richmond. The South Carolina State Archives assure me this family did not enter at Charleston. To add to matters we do not know Jane's husbnds given name other than to surmise it was Benjamin also. Any suggestions etc. other than hire a professional genealogist. There is no Hammersley rootsweb list to turn to either. Thank you for reading this far. Ray Smith in Gaston County, North Carolina

Thanks for your help, Dottie. I'll keep on searchin. Someone from the Hammerly line told me she thought Elizabeth died in 1860 from pneumonia, but they didn't have the documentation, etc.? Donna -----Original Message----- From: Dottie Himes <djhimes@bellsouth.net> To: valoudou@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 6:48 pm Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call Sorry, I cannot help with any of your Jacobs, but I just notived something that might?? be of some help. If you continue you search for William Hemmerly try looking under HAMMERSLY. i have a William Hammersly in my database, but they are from MD, but could be some connection. This may or may not help but thought I would let you know. Descendants of Francis Hammersley, II, #2H 1 [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H b: Abt. 1705 d: 1745 .. +Elizabeth BOARMAN, #1W, 159-10-8, cousins b: Abt. 1686 MD m: 1726 d: Abt. 1741 Father: William (Boerman) Boarman, Major, 159-10 (2H) Mother: Mary Jarboe, (168-4-2), #3W of Wm. 2 William HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-6 b: Abt. 1727 MD 2 Basil HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-7 b: Abt. 1729 MD 2 Francis HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-8 b: Abt. 1731 MD *2nd Wife of [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H: .. +Mary, #2W m: Aft. 1741 Dottie Dottie (Porter) Himes Lewisport, KY 42351 djhimes@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <dcmowery@aol.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call > Still searching for the maiden name and family of Elizabeth ?. I haven't > found a record for her marriage to Thomas Jacobs or a death record for > her. Also don't know where T. Jacobs is buried or what happened to Richard > Hipkins and don't know the relationship of the Christopher Lambert buried > in the cemetery?lot she purchased. > > > > ELIZABETH?? ???? ?was born Abt. 1802 in Leesburg, Loudoun Co, VA.? She > married (1) THOMAS L. JACOBS Abt. 1820.? He died 1823.? She married (2) > RICHARD HIPKINS March 13, 1837 in Loudoun Co., VA.??? She married (3) > WILLIAM HAMMERLY October 08, 1854 in Loudoun Co., VA.? He was born in > Loudoun Co., VA, and died 1855. > > > Child of ELIZABETH ?? and THOMAS JACOBS is: > > ?????????????????? i.??? JACOB T.2 JACOBS, b. 1821; d. January 03, 1851, > Loudoun Co., VA. > > ?????? > > Child of ELIZABETH JACOBS and RICHARD HIPKINS is: > > 2.?????????????? ii.??? ISABELLA2 HIPKINS, b. 1839, Leesburg, Loudoun Co, > VA; d. August 30, 1864, Washington, DC. > > > > > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 and > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. > > > Thanks for any help, > Donna > > > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 and > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. > > > Thanks for any help, > Donna > > > Child of ELIZABETH ?? and THOMAS JACOBS is: > > ?????????????????? i.??? JACOB T.2 JACOBS, b. 1821; d. January 03, 1851, > Loudoun Co., VA. > > ?????? > > Child of ELIZABETH JACOBS and RICHARD HIPKINS is: > > 2.?????????????? ii.??? ISABELLA2 HIPKINS, b. 1839, Leesburg, Loudoun Co, > VA; d. August 30, 1864, Washington, DC. > > > > > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 and > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. > > > Thanks for any help, > Donna > > > Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth > Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 and > Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. > > > Thanks for any help, > Donna > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Search this list's archived messages! http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for any information on this family, land records, deeds, marriage information on the children. Also looking for records on David & Anna (Lodge) Howell who were said to be Quakers. I have written letters to the Quaker Church in VA and have not received any responses as of yet.

Hi Donna Glad to try to help you, as many people have tried to help me. Wish I had more. I am adding the Hammersly data that I have, in hopes of some help to you. Descendants of Francis Hammersley I 1 Francis HAMMERSLEY I b: Abt. 1680 .. +Margaret BRANDT b: Abt. 1680 2 [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H b: Abt. 1705 d: 1745 ... +Elizabeth BOARMAN, #1W, 159-10-8, cousins b: Abt. 1686 MD m: 1726 d: Abt. 1741 Father: William (Boerman) Boarman, Major, 159-10 (2H) Mother: Mary Jarboe, (168-4-2), #3W of Wm. 3 William HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-6 b: Abt. 1727 MD 3 Basil HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-7 b: Abt. 1729 MD 3 Francis HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-8 b: Abt. 1731 MD *2nd Wife of [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H: ... +Mary, #2W m: Aft. 1741 Good Luck. Dottie (Porter) Himes Lewisport, KY 42351 djhimes@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <dcmowery@aol.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call > Thanks for your help, Dottie. I'll keep on searchin. Someone from the > Hammerly line told me she thought Elizabeth died in 1860 from pneumonia, > but they didn't have the documentation, etc.? > > Donna > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dottie Himes <djhimes@bellsouth.net> > To: valoudou@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 6:48 pm > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call > > > > Sorry, I cannot help with any of your Jacobs, but I just notived something > that might?? be of some help. If you continue you search for William > Hemmerly > try looking under HAMMERSLY. i have a William Hammersly in my database, > but > they are from MD, but could be some connection. This may or may not help > but thought I would let you know. > > Descendants of Francis Hammersley, II, #2H > > > > 1 [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H b: Abt. 1705 d: 1745 > > .. +Elizabeth BOARMAN, #1W, 159-10-8, cousins b: Abt. 1686 MD m: 1726 d: > Abt. 1741 Father: William (Boerman) Boarman, Major, 159-10 (2H) Mother: > Mary > Jarboe, (168-4-2), #3W of Wm. > > 2 William HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-6 b: Abt. 1727 MD > > 2 Basil HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-7 b: Abt. 1729 MD > > 2 Francis HAMMERSLEY, 159-10-10-8 b: Abt. 1731 MD > > *2nd Wife of [1] Francis HAMMERSLEY, II, #2H: > > .. +Mary, #2W m: Aft. 1741 > > Dottie > > Dottie (Porter) Himes > Lewisport, KY 42351 > djhimes@bellsouth.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dcmowery@aol.com> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:15 PM > Subject: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call > > >> Still searching for the maiden name and family of Elizabeth ?. I haven't >> found a record for her marriage to Thomas Jacobs or a death record for >> her. Also don't know where T. Jacobs is buried or what happened to >> Richard >> Hipkins and don't know the relationship of the Christopher Lambert buried >> in the cemetery?lot she purchased. >> >> >> >> ELIZABETH?? ???? ?was born Abt. 1802 in Leesburg, Loudoun Co, VA.? She >> married (1) THOMAS L. JACOBS Abt. 1820.? He died 1823.? She married (2) >> RICHARD HIPKINS March 13, 1837 in Loudoun Co., VA.??? She married (3) >> WILLIAM HAMMERLY October 08, 1854 in Loudoun Co., VA.? He was born in >> Loudoun Co., VA, and died 1855. >> >> >> Child of ELIZABETH ?? and THOMAS JACOBS is: >> >> ?????????????????? i.??? JACOB T.2 JACOBS, b. 1821; d. January 03, 1851, >> Loudoun Co., VA. >> >> ?????? >> >> Child of ELIZABETH JACOBS and RICHARD HIPKINS is: >> >> 2.?????????????? ii.??? ISABELLA2 HIPKINS, b. 1839, Leesburg, Loudoun Co, >> VA; d. August 30, 1864, Washington, DC. >> >> >> >> >> Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth >> Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 >> and >> Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. >> >> >> Thanks for any help, >> Donna >> >> >> Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth >> Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 >> and >> Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. >> >> >> Thanks for any help, >> Donna >> >> >> Child of ELIZABETH ?? and THOMAS JACOBS is: >> >> ?????????????????? i.??? JACOB T.2 JACOBS, b. 1821; d. January 03, 1851, >> Loudoun Co., VA. >> >> ?????? >> >> Child of ELIZABETH JACOBS and RICHARD HIPKINS is: >> >> 2.?????????????? ii.??? ISABELLA2 HIPKINS, b. 1839, Leesburg, Loudoun Co, >> VA; d. August 30, 1864, Washington, DC. >> >> >> >> >> Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth >> Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 >> and >> Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. >> >> >> Thanks for any help, >> Donna >> >> >> Union Cemetery, Leesburg, Loudoun Co., VA-Lot #118 bought by Elizabeth >> Hipkins. Buried there are: Jacob T. Jacobs (son) b. 1821, d. 1/03/1851 >> and >> Christopher Lambert d. 10/1861. >> >> >> Thanks for any help, >> Donna >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll >> Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us >> something about your Brick Wall person. >> To contact Listowner: >> Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Search this list's archived messages! >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. > Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something > about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pat, Could you handle one more? I would like to know if there is any mention of HOLDER or DISBROW in your magic book? Thanks, Shirley Holder Antrim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Duncan" <GenNutLdn@msn.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor children, bastards Loudoun Co. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

No Holder or Disbrow. There was a John Holding who had three apprentices. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Antrim" <Shantrim@comcast.net> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor children, bastards Loudoun Co. > Pat, > Could you handle one more? I would like to know if there is any mention of > HOLDER or DISBROW in your magic book? > > Thanks, Shirley Holder Antrim >

Pat, Thank you very much for the look up. You are always so helpful. Teresia (Sanders) Scott Hamilton, VA ATTENTION! New e-mail address: jamilandteresia@comcast.net The Ambrose Jones Wiki: http://ambrosejones.wikispaces.com Genealogy, it's a family thing. Surnames: Sanders/Saunders, Smith, Cathcart, Jones, Combs, Barker, Hawn, Dunlevy, Clegg, Huckleberry, Yeary, Wallace, Russell, McCarty, Lowe, Legg, American Indian Places: Indiana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Ireland, Germany On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Pat Duncan wrote: > Order Book G, page 57 8 Sep 1777 John MCCARTY a servant of Thompson > MASON, > to serve additional time for being a runaway > > Order Book G, page 416 12 Aug 1782 Mary MCCARTY, 8 yrs old in Mar > 1783, to > James MARSHALL > > 20 Feb 1836 William Randolph SMALLWOOD, bastard, 8 yrs old 8 Aug 1835, > to > Robert MCCARTY, to be a tanner > > Mary MCCARTY - twins: 1 male, 1 female, b. 21 Oct 1809 at the house of > her > father, Timoth MCCARTY. William DAVIS, acknowledged father to pay $30 > per yr > each for 7 yrs for support of the children > > Pat Duncan > GenNutLdn@msn.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jamilandteresia@comcast.net> > To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor children, bastards Loudoun > Co. > > >> Hey Pat, >> If you get the chance; would you please see if there are any McCarty >> listed? >> Thank you in advance. >> >> Teresia (Sanders) Scott >> Hamilton, VA > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell > us something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Patti, I am researching a Jeramiah McCarty of Loudoun. Some time ago someone sent me the URL, below, to a book "The McCarthys In Early American History". McCartys are listed also. I hope it helps; there are several Davids listed. Teresia (Sanders) Scott Hamilton, VA ATTENTION! New e-mail address: jamilandteresia@comcast.net The Ambrose Jones Wiki: http://ambrosejones.wikispaces.com Genealogy, it's a family thing. Surnames: Sanders/Saunders, Smith, Cathcart, Jones, Combs, Barker, Hawn, Dunlevy, Clegg, Huckleberry, Yeary, Wallace, Russell, McCarty, Lowe, Legg, American Indian Places: Indiana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Ireland, Germany On Apr 6, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen wrote: > I continue to search for David McCARTY/McArty/Macarty etc > > He was born abt 1740 VA > He died abt 1790-1793 VA (Caroline or Shenandoah perhaps) > His wife is Miss Unknown > > He had 9 children born 1770-1785 VA- some in Shenandoah, Va > > His heirs sold his Caroline County property in 1800- the legal record > is in > Shenandoah County. > > I need to find records for David McCarty (any spelling) as to his > residence > during the Revolution. Some early leads brought me to Loudoun County. > > I find lot of McCartys in VA but nothing on David. All help much > appreciated!!! > > Patti > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell > us something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hey Pat, If you get the chance; would you please see if there are any McCarty listed? Thank you in advance. Teresia (Sanders) Scott Hamilton, VA ATTENTION! New e-mail address: jamilandteresia@comcast.net The Ambrose Jones Wiki: http://ambrosejones.wikispaces.com Genealogy, it's a family thing. Surnames: Sanders/Saunders, Smith, Cathcart, Jones, Combs, Barker, Hawn, Dunlevy, Clegg, Huckleberry, Yeary, Wallace, Russell, McCarty, Lowe, Legg, American Indian Places: Indiana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Ireland, Germany On Apr 6, 2008, at 7:36 AM, Pat Duncan wrote: >> From "Apprentices, Bastards and Poor Children of Loudoun 1757-1850" by > Hutchison: > > Minute Book 1, page 108; 12 Feb 1816; Jacob TAWNER to Thomas BIRKBY, > to be a > wagon maker > > Pat Duncan > GenNutLdn@msn.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <PattiB9460@aol.com> > To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor children, bastards Loudoun > Co. > > >> Was wondering if there is any mention of Jacob Coutsman Towner >> (1804-1838) >> in >> this book? We were told he was apprenticed to the Rev. Thomas >> Birkby at >> one >> time. In fact, he named his first son after him. >> >> Thanks, >> Patti >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell > us something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You are all quite welcome. Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen" <pattitwirler@comcast.net> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Pat Duncan > I would echo the same- Thanks Pat! You are always so helpful and we > appreciate your expertise. > Patti in Portland >

I would echo the same- Thanks Pat! You are always so helpful and we appreciate your expertise. Patti in Portland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Duncan" <GenNutLdn@msn.com> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor children, bastards Loudoun Co. > Order Book G, page 57 8 Sep 1777 John MCCARTY a servant of Thompson MASON, > to serve additional time for being a runaway > > Order Book G, page 416 12 Aug 1782 Mary MCCARTY, 8 yrs old in Mar 1783, to > James MARSHALL > > 20 Feb 1836 William Randolph SMALLWOOD, bastard, 8 yrs old 8 Aug 1835, to > Robert MCCARTY, to be a tanner > > Mary MCCARTY - twins: 1 male, 1 female, b. 21 Oct 1809 at the house of her > father, Timoth MCCARTY. William DAVIS, acknowledged father to pay $30 per > yr each for 7 yrs for support of the children > > Pat Duncan > GenNutLdn@msn.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jamilandteresia@comcast.net> > To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:35 AM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor children, bastards Loudoun Co. > > >> Hey Pat, >> If you get the chance; would you please see if there are any McCarty >> listed? >> Thank you in advance. >> >> Teresia (Sanders) Scott >> Hamilton, VA > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Order Book G, page 57 8 Sep 1777 John MCCARTY a servant of Thompson MASON, to serve additional time for being a runaway Order Book G, page 416 12 Aug 1782 Mary MCCARTY, 8 yrs old in Mar 1783, to James MARSHALL 20 Feb 1836 William Randolph SMALLWOOD, bastard, 8 yrs old 8 Aug 1835, to Robert MCCARTY, to be a tanner Mary MCCARTY - twins: 1 male, 1 female, b. 21 Oct 1809 at the house of her father, Timoth MCCARTY. William DAVIS, acknowledged father to pay $30 per yr each for 7 yrs for support of the children Pat Duncan GenNutLdn@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <jamilandteresia@comcast.net> To: <valoudou@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Apprentices, Poor children, bastards Loudoun Co. > Hey Pat, > If you get the chance; would you please see if there are any McCarty > listed? > Thank you in advance. > > Teresia (Sanders) Scott > Hamilton, VA

Thanks for the reply Sorting Williams is a trick sometimes. It is not unlikely that by 1830 William of John was deceased. Unfortunately I have not found a will or probate record in Fauquier indices that I have access to. This makes me believe they moved at some point after selling their farm. William (1763- )of John (1737-1798) is found in the 1810 Fauquier County census (listed conveniently as William of John), and a William that would fit him is found again in 1820 Fauquier census. Neighbors are fairly consistent so it is likely the same person. William's son William "Billy" was born in 1807 (Billy was my great great grandfather). I have seen the Ohio Co record and I don't think it is of either of these two Williams. I am hoping to find a probate record, will, deed or just run across someone that by some odd chance has these folks in their tree. Or someone like yourself who has run across a record that I might have overlooked. Thanks again. -----Original Message----- From: valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:valoudou-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tosca Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 9:14 PM To: valoudou@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call It is possible that William b 1763 at age 67 is deceased by 1830, isn't it? Where did you find him in 1810 and 1820 if you couldn't find him after 1819? And perhaps this is his son? Born circa 1780-1790? 1830 VA OHIO CO NO TWP LISTED M19 Roll 198 P 214 Edmonds, William 1M 5-10 1M 40-50 1F -5 1F 5-10 2F 10-15 1F 15-20 1F 20-30 1F 40-50 It is just a gamble, I know. But maybe he headed west after this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Edmonds" <edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call >I am searching for information on an Edmonds family from Fauquier County VA > that may have moved to a neighboring Virginia county around 1820. Maybe > Loudoun. > > > > William Edmonds (b 1763- ) was a son of John Edmonds (1737-1798) Will > Records in Fauquier County confirm this. Deed records in Fauquier show > William sold his farm that he inherited from his father John to Hezekiah > Shaklett in 1819 but William is not found in Fauquier records after that > date so far as I can determine. This William lived in the Upperville / > Paris area. Deed records indicate his wife was named Sally (more formally > Sarah perhaps), but I have found no marriage record. > > > > Based on information I have found but certainly not 100% sure, I believe > he > had a least one son William "Billy" and perhaps thee daughters; Elizabeth > (married Francis Rollow) and Jane (married Wesley Brown) and perhaps a > daughter Octavia that is found in the household of Elias Edmonds in the > 1850 > Fauquier County census. 1810 and 1820 census records for William Edmonds > of > John tend to support this household group. > > > > I have researched record collections held at the College of William and > Mary, Univ of VA and VA Historical Society that include letters from > associated family members from the period 1839 thru the 1850s. William > "Billy" and Octavia (referenced above) were definitely related to the > Fauquier Edmonds from references in these family letters, it is just > unclear > specifically how. I have found no records yet which proves up the exact > connection. > > > > I believe they are offspring of William the "son of John Edmonds" > primarily > because the other Edmonds lines are very well documented in one form or > another and these individuals are not to be found. William "Billy" moved > to > Missouri at approximately the same time that several others who would be > his > cousins made the similar move to Missouri (1830s). These cousins would > include Geo Steptoe Edmonds, John Fleetwood Edmonds, Gilbert H Edmonds, > James Henry Edmonds and Octavia Chilton. I suspect the connection was > lost > at that point. > > > > I am posting to neighboring counties in hopes there may be something or > some > connection to be found. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. 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It is possible that William b 1763 at age 67 is deceased by 1830, isn't it? Where did you find him in 1810 and 1820 if you couldn't find him after 1819? And perhaps this is his son? Born circa 1780-1790? 1830 VA OHIO CO NO TWP LISTED M19 Roll 198 P 214 Edmonds, William 1M 5-10 1M 40-50 1F -5 1F 5-10 2F 10-15 1F 15-20 1F 20-30 1F 40-50 It is just a gamble, I know. But maybe he headed west after this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Edmonds" <edmondscharles@sbcglobal.net> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Sunday Roll Call >I am searching for information on an Edmonds family from Fauquier County VA > that may have moved to a neighboring Virginia county around 1820. Maybe > Loudoun. > > > > William Edmonds (b 1763- ) was a son of John Edmonds (1737-1798) Will > Records in Fauquier County confirm this. Deed records in Fauquier show > William sold his farm that he inherited from his father John to Hezekiah > Shaklett in 1819 but William is not found in Fauquier records after that > date so far as I can determine. This William lived in the Upperville / > Paris area. Deed records indicate his wife was named Sally (more formally > Sarah perhaps), but I have found no marriage record. > > > > Based on information I have found but certainly not 100% sure, I believe > he > had a least one son William "Billy" and perhaps thee daughters; Elizabeth > (married Francis Rollow) and Jane (married Wesley Brown) and perhaps a > daughter Octavia that is found in the household of Elias Edmonds in the > 1850 > Fauquier County census. 1810 and 1820 census records for William Edmonds > of > John tend to support this household group. > > > > I have researched record collections held at the College of William and > Mary, Univ of VA and VA Historical Society that include letters from > associated family members from the period 1839 thru the 1850s. William > "Billy" and Octavia (referenced above) were definitely related to the > Fauquier Edmonds from references in these family letters, it is just > unclear > specifically how. I have found no records yet which proves up the exact > connection. > > > > I believe they are offspring of William the "son of John Edmonds" > primarily > because the other Edmonds lines are very well documented in one form or > another and these individuals are not to be found. William "Billy" moved > to > Missouri at approximately the same time that several others who would be > his > cousins made the similar move to Missouri (1830s). These cousins would > include Geo Steptoe Edmonds, John Fleetwood Edmonds, Gilbert H Edmonds, > James Henry Edmonds and Octavia Chilton. I suspect the connection was > lost > at that point. > > > > I am posting to neighboring counties in hopes there may be something or > some > connection to be found. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a listing for a margaret Shaffer in my Shaffer Shafer Genealogy married to a Wissinger or Missinger not any thing else on her though , she is daughter of Conrad Shaffer Sr. and Elizabeth maybe ( Dorscheimer) . Dick Shafer djs309@mchsi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Wissinger" <bwissinger@buckeye-express.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:30 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] Roll Call - WISSINGER Surname w/ SMITH, MARTIN, PARMER,SHAFER >I continue to research the WISSINGER surname and ancestors settled in near > Middletown, Frederick Co., Md. in the 1740's. At least two of the > children > migrated to Va and eventually to Ohio. I am looking for any information > on > this surname and their families in the Loudon Cnty areas. Surname may also > be found as: WISINGER, WEIS/SS/INGER or WIES/SS/INGER. > > Brick walls: > > * Julian WISSINGER and Ephraim SMITH who were married on April 25, 1843 at > Shelburne > > * Joseph WISSINGER - lived in Ransom > > * Edward WISSINGER, an Attorney in 1801 > > * Margaret "Peggy" WISSINGER who married UNK SHAFER in 1818 - declared > dead > in 1821. d/o Conrad Shafer/shaffer. > > * Alma Lee WISSINGER - lived in Charles Town - 1880's > > I would love to hear from any connection............... > > Thanks > Bob Wissinger > Perrysburg, Ohio > > -------------------------------------------- > My mailbox is spam-free with ChoiceMail, the leader in personal and > corporate anti-spam solutions. Download your free copy of ChoiceMail from > www.digiportal.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Janice i have touched base with you before, I now have a George (johan Georg) Shafer,Shaffer Birth abt. 1767 Father possiably Peter or Jacob Shafer, Shavor Abt. 1719, Children Sickfrits Shafer, Shaffer Abt. 1760, john Shafer 1760 David Shafer,Shaffer 1760, all 4 are listed in 1788 personal property tax Loudoun Co. Va. ,also listed is a Shadrick Shafer followed by sickfrits Shafer, he is listed as a brother to my Conrad Shaffer Sr.Dick Shafer djs309@mchsi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice's Bee Creek Mail" <weaver1@beecreek.net> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 6:14 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU] George Shaver (Shafer) > Looking for anyone research George Shaver (1750-1810. Wife unknown. > Children > Siekfreit Shaver > Margaret Shaver > Balsor Shaver > Christopher Shaver > David Shaver > Susanna Shaver > Eve Shaver > Jacob Shaver > John Shaver > Catherine Shaver > Please contact me at weaver1@beecreek.net if you think you may have > information on anyone in this famil > Thanks, > Janice Weaver > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VALOUDOU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello- The inscription on William Sample's 1844 tombstone (Union Hill Cemetery, St. Clair Co., Illinois) states he was born in Loudoun Co., Virginia on Nov. 19, 1789. He may have been the son of James and Sarah Sample, as they appear to have been the only Sample family residing in Loudoun Co. during the 1780's. Sarah was the child and step-child respectively of Catherine and John Thomas. Each had been married previously, John Thomas to Hanna Mead, with whom he had five children: Mary, Joseph, Thomas, Leonard Taylor and Martha. Catherine to Darrell (first name unknown to me) with whom she had three children: Sarah (Sample), John and Thomas. Catherine's eldest child, William Blinstone, had been born out of wedlock from a shipboard romance with Henry T. McCabe, en route from Ireland to the port of Alexandria, Va. The subsequent setting is Leesburg. where Henry's father was a publican, and the time frame probably the late 1760's as Catherine's children were grown at the time of her death in 1793, Her daughter, Sarah Sample, had died the previous year, leaving at least two small daughters, Catherine (b. ca. 1789) and Susannah. Son-in-law James Sample served as witness to Catherine Thomas' will. With death first of their mother, followed by the death of their grandmother, the two little girls were adopted out, with at least Catherine going to the Brown family, apparently friends, as a Brown served as executor of Catherine Thomas's will. Later, (August 12, 1812) Catherine married a son of the family, John Dogget Brown. As far as I know, William Sample does not appear in Virginia records, and I first come across his trail when he was 21, and serving in the illinois mounted militia. Later in that year, on June 12, 1812. William married Nancy Preston. They settled first in Randolph County, Ill., and then a few years later moved north to St. Clair Co. Their first son was named James, and their first daughter Sarah. Thanks for your patience in reading this long story. Any information helping connect William to James and Sarah Sample would be very much appreciated. Tom Davis