Lois Masters, If you still need to Locate those places in Loudoun County, Virginia . Send me the names again and I will scan them from my Loudoun Co map and send them to you . I misplaced your email address . Paula ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Hiatt" <martyhiatt@starpower.net> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Parent counties > Please let me correct some mis-information. Jefferson was never part of > Loudoun. It was created in 1801 from Berkeley County. > > Neither was Hampshire County part of Loudoun. The mother county of Berkeley > (and therefore, Jefferson) and Hampshire, and several other western counties > was Frederick County, established about 1738. > > Loudoun was created from Fairfax; Fairfax from Prince William; PW from > Stafford. > Loudoun is not, nor ever was part of the Shenandoah Valley, although we had > settlers from the Valley who decided they were too close to the Indians so > came back over the mountain and across the river into Loudoun county. > > > Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS > "Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, love > and respect your work." John Morris > > CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, > used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MLarson101@aol.com> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 9:52 PM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Shannondale (location?) > > > > In a message dated 12/13/2001 11:03:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, > > jaharris@adelphia.net writes: > > > > > > > Jefferson County West Virginia, once was Loudoun County > > > > Was what is now Hampshire Co., WV ever part of Loudoun Co., VA? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > Melinda Larson > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > >

Paula - Thanks so much for sharing this information with me. There have been so many helpful responses to these questions. Happy Holidays to you and yours Lois --- James Harris <jaharris@adelphia.net> wrote: > Lois, > > Shannondale is now Jefferson County West Virginia, > once was Loudoun County . > > I'll look on my map and see if I can scan you the > Mountain and Turnpike > Roads .. > > Paula > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois Masters" <ljmasters@yahoo.com> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Shannondale (location?) > > > > Paula - > > > > Using the search engine, I entered: > > > > Mountain Road > > Shannondale > > Turnpike Road > > > > for Loudoun Co., Virginia > > > > The search engine turned up negative in all three > > cases; except it did locate a Mountain Road in > Halifax > > County. > > > > Thanks anyway - > > > > Lois > > > > --- James Harris <jaharris@adelphia.net> wrote: > > > Lois Masters, > > > You may want to try out this site to help you > locate > > > the places you are > > > looking for . I saw a couple other post from > you, > > > and you should be able to > > > find Turnpike Road, Mountain Road, and > Shannondale > > > on this site . They are > > > all still on the maps of today . If you can't > find > > > them, email me and I'll > > > try to explain where they're located...Paula > > > paharris@adelphia.net > > > > > > > > > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=37.56889&lon=-80.26222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Lois Masters" <ljmasters@yahoo.com> > > > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:30 PM > > > Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Shannondale (location?) > > > > > > > > > > In the 19th Century, Shannondale was on > > > Kittocton > > > > Creek. It may only have been the name of a > piece > > > of > > > > property and not a town. Does anyone know the > > > > location of Shannondale? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Lois > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > My personal website: > > > > > > > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~virginiawesttooregon > > > > The complete database of our family history: > > > > > > > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familylibrary/ > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions > for > > > all of > > > > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > > To contact Listowner: > > > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > To contact Listowner: > > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > > > > > > > > ===== > > My personal website: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~virginiawesttooregon > > The complete database of our family history: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familylibrary/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for > all of > > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ===== My personal website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~virginiawesttooregon The complete database of our family history: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familylibrary/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com

That could be possible. John is a common name in my family. So, do you know what his last name is, or do you think it could be either ALEXANDER or STEPHENS? The children are not listed again in a census, so I don't know what happened to them. Unless they died, but then there should be some kind of death record. Thanks, and who knows!!! Anything is possible. Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <EuroCastles@aol.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] alexanders > Funny you should be looking for an Alexander. I have a Brick wall with my > John Alexander Stephens/Stevens or Alexander John Stevens/Stephens born > Loudoun County to unknown parent s about 1810-1811. Bren > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > Join the Loudoun Co., VA Genealogical Society! > For information contact: > Loudoun Genealogy Club > P.O. Box 254 > Leesburg, VA 20178 > Annual Dues are only $10 > >

Susan, Will you look up Thomas, James or Frederick Burnes and Timothey Holtzclaw for me? Thank you very, very much! Barb Price

Please let me correct some mis-information. Jefferson was never part of Loudoun. It was created in 1801 from Berkeley County. Neither was Hampshire County part of Loudoun. The mother county of Berkeley (and therefore, Jefferson) and Hampshire, and several other western counties was Frederick County, established about 1738. Loudoun was created from Fairfax; Fairfax from Prince William; PW from Stafford. Loudoun is not, nor ever was part of the Shenandoah Valley, although we had settlers from the Valley who decided they were too close to the Indians so came back over the mountain and across the river into Loudoun county. Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS "Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, love and respect your work." John Morris CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MLarson101@aol.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Shannondale (location?) > In a message dated 12/13/2001 11:03:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, > jaharris@adelphia.net writes: > > > > Jefferson County West Virginia, once was Loudoun County > > Was what is now Hampshire Co., WV ever part of Loudoun Co., VA? > > Thanks for your help. > Melinda Larson > > ______________________________

Julie, There was only one Allbritton ... John who entered from Goochland. Did you want me to look for Daniel and Humphrey Allbritton or the surnames of Daniel and Humphrey? There are 16 Humphreys and and 14 Daniels . SO I will need further clarification. I do not type very quickly so if you could narrow it down I could be more efficient Susan

Funny you should be looking for an Alexander. I have a Brick wall with my John Alexander Stephens/Stevens or Alexander John Stevens/Stephens born Loudoun County to unknown parent s about 1810-1811. Bren

Hi list! I am currently focusing on trying to find two unknown children who were born before 1810 with the last name of ALEXANDER. My third great grandfather had 9 children, but two are unknown. One was a boy, and the other was a girl. My third great grandfathers name was Hathaway ALEXANDER. He was living next door to a Charles ALEXANDER at the time. Which they could be father and son, or brothers. My question is, who are these two unknown children, and what is the relationship between Charles and Hathaway? I hope that someone else has the ALEXANDER surname, because I am completely lost. Thanks to all in advance! Suzanne

Dear Susan: Would you look up ALLBRITAIN (or any variations such as ALBRITTON, ALBRIGHTON), DANIEL, and HUMPHREY? Thanks so much. Julie

Thank you so much for this pointer, it was very helpful. Have a nice holiday. Mena Mead -----Original Message----- From: Helen West [mailto:jhwest@ptialaska.net] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 9:36 PM To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Revolutionary Warrents http://www.sos.state.ky.us/intranet/Revwscr.htm Please go to the above searchable site> enter surname> choose one of the blue name> after page loads, scroll down, and there will be a copy of the actual warrant the veteran received. I have a few Revolutionary War books if any of you all need a look up. Helen ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co.

Susan, could you tell me where the "Mc" names are? Are they in the next book? Thanks, Bob McArtor ----- Original Message ----- From: <SUZYBC@aol.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Revolutionary War Pensions > Susan > There is a series of books by Wardell that have synopsis on any Pensioner > that for any period of time lived in VA. I have 3 of these books A thru > Myers. There are two more with the rest of the alphabet. If he was a > pensioner then the synopsis should be there. The entire file can be ordered > through the National Archives. If his wife survived him she would have > received a pension in a lot of cf cases until her death. > > I will look up the name for you if we are lucky enough to start wiht A - M. > > Susan > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > http://www.rootsweb.com > >

In a message dated 12/13/2001 11:03:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, jaharris@adelphia.net writes: > Jefferson County West Virginia, once was Loudoun County Was what is now Hampshire Co., WV ever part of Loudoun Co., VA? Thanks for your help. Melinda Larson

Susan There is a series of books by Wardell that have synopsis on any Pensioner that for any period of time lived in VA. I have 3 of these books A thru Myers. There are two more with the rest of the alphabet. If he was a pensioner then the synopsis should be there. The entire file can be ordered through the National Archives. If his wife survived him she would have received a pension in a lot of cf cases until her death. I will look up the name for you if we are lucky enough to start wiht A - M. Susan

http://www.sos.state.ky.us/intranet/Revwscr.htm Please go to the above searchable site> enter surname> choose one of the blue name> after page loads, scroll down, and there will be a copy of the actual warrant the veteran received. I have a few Revolutionary War books if any of you all need a look up. Helen

Happy Holidays to Hawaii from Michigan... Thank you Jan Sing for your suggestion. I have been in contact with the DAR recently in an attempt to discover if an ancestor is in their files - they are a very helpful and generous group. Since I have yet to receive the copies of the documents in their files I did not realize that they might have the pension data also. One thing that I did discover in my first search for DAR information is that they will conduct a search through e-mail (a reasonable amount of information must be supplied by the person making the request). For any other list members who may have determined that their ancestor has a strong possibility of having participated in the Revolutionary War go to http://www.dar.org/cgi-bin/natsociety/content.cfm?id=92&hd=n&pf=n and follow their directions for their lookup service. I really appreciate you taking the time to help! Susan McIntyre === Jan Sing wrote: > Aloha...if he was ever claimed by a Daughter of the American Revolution as > her patriot, there would be alot of information on him at the DAR Hqtrs in > washington. > > One way you can do this, if you can't get to Hqtrs. is to try going to > dar.org and then go to "Dar Forms"...go to the bottom of the page..click > on RGR 1000.....make a copy and send it in w/your check for $5.00! Takes 6 > weeks. > Sincerely, Janet Sing, Founding Regent, Hawai'i Loa Chapter, NSDAR > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Susan McIntyre [mailto:sbmc2@chartermi.net] > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:49 AM > > To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Revolutionary War Pensions > > > > > > I am hoping that someone on the list will be able to help me with a > > question about documents. I can verify that a Loudoun Co. VA resident > > was a "Revolutionary War Pensioner" in the year 1840 when he died at age > > 80. The application that he filled out offers no information about his > > family but I was wondering if it was possible that the wife that > > survived him would continue to receive payments and if so where such > > documents might be found. I did check the LVA online pension > > information and did not find him listed although I did find him in the > > "1840 Census of Pensioners" at > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/colonial/census/1840/index.html (in > > case anyone else is looking for such information). > > Any help or direction that you have to offer would be gratefully > > accepted, > > Susan McIntyre > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co.

I am hoping that someone on the list will be able to help me with a question about documents. I can verify that a Loudoun Co. VA resident was a "Revolutionary War Pensioner" in the year 1840 when he died at age 80. The application that he filled out offers no information about his family but I was wondering if it was possible that the wife that survived him would continue to receive payments and if so where such documents might be found. I did check the LVA online pension information and did not find him listed although I did find him in the "1840 Census of Pensioners" at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/colonial/census/1840/index.html (in case anyone else is looking for such information). Any help or direction that you have to offer would be gratefully accepted, Susan McIntyre

Now that the Patriot Index service is avail. online, it will help speed up the service...however each chapter normally maintains a 4 volume set of the Index books and sometimes names are there that don't seem to come up on the online search (too case sensitive or??)...so if you need any more kokua, don't hestiate to let us know...hope you'll become a Daugher soon! Best wishes and good luck...Jan Sing   > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan McIntyre [mailto:sbmc2@chartermi.net] > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:10 PM > To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Revolutionary War Pensions > > > Happy Holidays to Hawaii from Michigan... > > Thank you Jan Sing for your suggestion. I have been in contact > with the DAR > recently in an attempt to discover if an ancestor is in their > files - they are a > very helpful and generous group. Since I have yet to receive the > copies of the > documents in their files I did not realize that they might have > the pension data > also. One thing that I did discover in my first search for DAR > information is > that they will conduct a search through e-mail (a reasonable amount of > information must be supplied by the person making the request). > For any other > list members who may have determined that their ancestor has a strong > possibility of having participated in the Revolutionary War go to > http://www.dar.org/cgi-bin/natsociety/content.cfm?id=92&hd=n&pf=n > and follow > their directions for their lookup service. > I really appreciate you taking the time to help! > Susan McIntyre > === > Jan Sing wrote: > > > Aloha...if he was ever claimed by a Daughter of the American > Revolution as > > her patriot, there would be alot of information on him at the > DAR Hqtrs in > > washington. > > > > One way you can do this, if you can't get to Hqtrs. is to try going to > > dar.org and then go to "Dar Forms"...go to the bottom of the > page..click > > on RGR 1000.....make a copy and send it in w/your check for > $5.00! Takes 6 > > weeks. > > Sincerely, Janet Sing, Founding Regent, Hawai'i Loa Chapter, NSDAR > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Susan McIntyre [mailto:sbmc2@chartermi.net] > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:49 AM > > > To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Revolutionary War Pensions > > > > > > > > > I am hoping that someone on the list will be able to help me with a > > > question about documents. I can verify that a Loudoun Co. VA resident > > > was a "Revolutionary War Pensioner" in the year 1840 when he > died at age > > > 80. The application that he filled out offers no information > about his > > > family but I was wondering if it was possible that the wife that > > > survived him would continue to receive payments and if so where such > > > documents might be found. I did check the LVA online pension > > > information and did not find him listed although I did find him in the > > > "1840 Census of Pensioners" at > > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/colonial/census/1840/index.html (in > > > case anyone else is looking for such information). > > > Any help or direction that you have to offer would be gratefully > > > accepted, > > > Susan McIntyre > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co. > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > http://www.rootsweb.com > > >

 Aloha...if he was ever claimed by a Daughter of the American Revolution as her patriot, there would be alot of information on him at the DAR Hqtrs in washington. One way you can do this, if you can't get to Hqtrs. is to try going to dar.org and then go to "Dar Forms"...go to the bottom of the page..click on RGR 1000.....make a copy and send it in w/your check for $5.00! Takes 6 weeks. Sincerely, Janet Sing, Founding Regent, Hawai'i Loa Chapter, NSDAR > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan McIntyre [mailto:sbmc2@chartermi.net] > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:49 AM > To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Revolutionary War Pensions > > > I am hoping that someone on the list will be able to help me with a > question about documents. I can verify that a Loudoun Co. VA resident > was a "Revolutionary War Pensioner" in the year 1840 when he died at age > 80. The application that he filled out offers no information about his > family but I was wondering if it was possible that the wife that > survived him would continue to receive payments and if so where such > documents might be found. I did check the LVA online pension > information and did not find him listed although I did find him in the > "1840 Census of Pensioners" at > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/colonial/census/1840/index.html (in > case anyone else is looking for such information). > Any help or direction that you have to offer would be gratefully > accepted, > Susan McIntyre > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > http://www.rootsweb.com > > >

HELLO-one place you cited wa "wapping' I AM WONDERING IF THAT COULD BE "WANCOPIN" WHICH IS A CREEK IN LOUDOUN WHICH IS ON THE OLD COTON PROPERTY OWNED BY THE LEE FAMILY AND IS NOW PART OF XEROX? FOOD FOR THOUGHT! HAPPY HUNTING! MARY FISHBACK -----Original Message----- From: Lois Masters [mailto:ljmasters@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:33 PM To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Wapping in Cameron Parish In early 19th Century, Wapping was a location in Cameron Parish on Mountain Road. Any ideas where that would be on a map today? Thanks Lois ===== My personal website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~virginiawesttooregon The complete database of our family history: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familylibrary/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== Join the Loudoun Co., VA Genealogical Society! For information contact: Loudoun Genealogy Club P.O. Box 254 Leesburg, VA 20178 Annual Dues are only $10

HELLO: RE: HOLMES MILL-THIS PLACE WAS A POST OFFICE NEAR HAMILTON FROM 1819-1835. (FROM THE GUIDE TO LOUDOUN COUNTY. BY EUGENE SCHEEL.) YOU HAVE TOO MANY QUESTIONS TO ANSWER BY E-MAIL. IF YOU WILL SEND THEM SNAIL MAIL AND 1 AT A TIME, OUR VOLUNTEERS MAYBE ABLE TO HELP YOU. YES THERE ARE 2 BEAVER DAM AREAS. YOU NEED TO USE OTHER BENCHMARKS TO BE SURE WHICH AREA OF LOUDOUN YOU ARE IN. THANKS, WE CHARGE 10 CENTS A PAGE FOR COPYING OR YOU MAY MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO BALCH LIBRARY! HAPPY HUNTING! MARY FISHBACK, BALCH STAFF. -----Original Message----- From: Lois Masters [mailto:ljmasters@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:39 PM To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] North Fork Meeting House and others.... Hello - Here are some Loudoun County locations I would really appreciate having identified. Tankersville Piedmont (1803) on the survey of Cap Robert Braden to Tankersville North Fork Meeting House (1831) Are the South Fork of Kittocton Creek and Little Kittocton Creek the same thing? (Please forgive if I butchered the spelling. Every deed has a different and unique spelling for Kittocton Creek) Where was Holmes Mill in 1835? On my 1757 map of Loudoun Co., there are two Beaver Dam entries. One is east of Ebenezer Church and west of Goose Creek. The second Beaverdam is North of Broad Run Church running South from Broad Run Bridge East of Goose Creek and West of Broad Run. How would I know which Beaver Dam /Beaverdam the deed referenced? Thanks Lois ===== My personal website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~virginiawesttooregon The complete database of our family history: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familylibrary/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com