Thank you, Sondra! I think this is the family of the same Michael Ashford!! Barb

In response to Sondra's question about the Loudoun will book abstracts - this book is one of MANY Loudoun references offered by Willow Bend Books in Westminster, MD. See their web site at: http://www.willowbend.net/default.asp Here is a brief description of some Loudoun County will book references: INDEX TO LOUDOUN COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILLS 1757-1850 - Louisa Skinner Hutchison 1997. 276 pp. index [WB1513] $22.00 This book covers the recorded wills, listed in the order they appear in the books. It includes the year the will was written and recorded, as well as all names mentioned in the will. LOUDOUN COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILL BOOK ABSTRACTS, BOOKS A-Z, DEC.1757-JUN.1841 - Patricia B. Duncan 2000, 8 1/2 x 11, index, 318 pages [WB0065] $36.00 This book covers all the will book entries, including appraisals, settlements, sales, etc. There is an alphabetically arranged chart of the wills which gives supplemental information (full date the will was written and recorded, as well as additional information such as slave division, bond, etc.) to the above Hutchison index. LOUDOUN COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILL BOOK ABSTRACTS, BOOKS 2A-3C, JUN 1841 - DEC 1879 AND SUPERIOR COURT BOOKS A AND B, 1810-1888 - Patricia B. Duncan 2001, 8 1/2 x 11, index, 432 pp [WB0262] $54.00 This books contains the same type of information as the above book. It covers not only the circuit court books but Books A and B from Superior Court. LOUDOUN COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILL BOOK INDEX, 1757-1946 - Patricia B. Duncan 2001, 81/2 x 11, 258 pp [WB0443] $36.00 This is an alphabetical index, in chart form, citing the book and page for wills, appraisals, settlements, sales, and lists of heirs. Also noted are the month/year a will was recorded in court, the local (when given) at the writing of the will, and the death date when given in the list of heirs. It covers will books A-4B and Superior Court Books A-C. If you have any questions about these books, or other Loudoun Co references, please contact me directly. Pat Duncan p.duncan@worldnet.att.net

I didn't know it was a fad? -----Original Message----- From: Colin K. McCann [mailto:oregduck@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:39 PM To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related Families I was not arguing religion.The point was why Latterday Saints do genealogy!We have been doing this work for years.Long before it became a fad!!!! If our church was not doing this for as long as they have ,you would have very little info to search from. On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:15:04 -0800 "Norma Thompson" <nthmpsn@concentric.net> writes: > And I think one of the Usenet news groups is the proper forum to > argue religion. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Valerie Johnson" <wing@1st.net> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:08 AM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related > Families > > > > Colin, I think you may be coming down on me a bit hard. I never > condemned > > the belief of yours. I am not judging you at all. I simply asked > a > > question and now feel like I got my head bit off. Anyone who > knows me, > > knows I am extremely open to learning of other faiths and > accepting of their > > beliefs. I will not ever condemn them, it is for God to judge not > me. I > > hope this helps you understand where I was coming from. Valerie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin K. McCann" <oregduck@juno.com> > > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:37 AM > > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related > Families > > > > > > > The Bible says why baptise ye fore the dead if the dead rise > not.God does > > > nothing least he prepares a way for it to happen!If we are wrong > you have > > > nothing to worry about,if we are right > > > then....................!!!!!Enough said !!!!!!! > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:35:46 -0500 "Valerie Johnson" > <wing@1st.net> > > > writes: > > > > That is a good point. Not that I necessarily object but just > don't > > > > understand it. Obviously Lois and I are related to one another > yet I > > > > know my > > > > belief system is very different for I do not believe one can > baptize > > > > one who > > > > is already dead. I know that the Wright family and Paxson > family > > > > were > > > > strong Quakers and I honor them as of the faith they were when > > > > alive. This > > > > does not mean I condemn her beliefs for I am a very open > person in > > > > religious > > > > matters. I appreciate her explaining her belief system to me. > It > > > > helped to > > > > understand the dates in the materials. > > > > I realized afterwards that I did it to the list not her > privately > > > > but > > > > turned out to be a good discussion starter. We all have so > very > > > > much to > > > > learn. Thank you Lois for answering to the list too. > > > > Oh, Lois by the way.... I'm trying to figure out how we > are > > > > related but > > > > still haven't placed you in the tree. Can you help me??? I > guess > > > > we are > > > > probably cousins. > > > > Valerie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <RepAlciere@aol.com> > > > > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:42 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and > Related > > > > Families > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is important for researchers who are new to all this, to > > > > understand > > > > that > > > > > their family members sometimes may have serious concerns > about > > > > submission > > > > of > > > > > family genealogy information to the Church of Jesus Christ > of > > > > Latter-day > > > > > Saints for the performance of temple ordinances. ("I think > they'd > > > > rather > > > > stay > > > > > Catholic.") > > > > > > > > > > Not to take sides on it, just to point it out to researchers > for > > > > their own > > > > > consideration. > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 13-Feb-02 00:15:58 Greenwich Standard > Time, > > > > > ljmasters@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Subj: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and > Related > > > > Families > > > > > > Date: 13-Feb-02 00:15:58 Greenwich Standard Time > > > > > > From: ljmasters@yahoo.com (Lois Masters) > > > > > > Reply-to: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Valerie - > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, your question is a valid one. I am a member of > > > > > > The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints > > > > > > (commonly called Mormon). We believe that the family > > > > > > unit is an eternal unit; that is, we are families in > > > > > > this life and we will be a family in the next life if > > > > > > we live worthily of that blessing. We believe we can > > > > > > be reunited with other family members who live worthy > > > > > > lives and continue as a family unit. We believe there > > > > > > is still a parent -child relationship that continues > > > > > > eternally....that family members are linked in an > > > > > > eternal chain. However, we believe that some > > > > > > ordinances are only performed on earth - like baptism, > > > > > > endowment and the sealing which creates the eternal > > > > > > link. These ordinances are done in temples and are > > > > > > sacred to us. We do not believe that because we > > > > > > perform these ordinances, that individuals are > > > > > > compelled to accept them. Our right to choose is a > > > > > > God-given right and we can choose to accept or reject > > > > > > these ordinances as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > If a person does not believe in these temple > > > > > > ordinances, then they would be meaningless. If a > > > > > > person believes they are groundless, then these dates > > > > > > attached to them are meaningless dates. > > > > > > > > > > > > For further information on our beliefs you might want > > > > > > to link to familysearch.org - and then there are some > > > > > > links from there about our beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this answers your question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lois > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > > > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > Join Juno today! 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Cathy You are wonderful Thank You so much. Sondra Now is there anyone researching the Colley and Della Mcatee family ?? Please write me, we can share. Sondra On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:29:29 -0600 Cathy Lauer <clauer@oregonvos.net> writes: > sondrafoley@juno.com wrote: > > > > YES > > Please tell me more, this is wonderful book is by who ?? > > > > Sondra > > > > > > > Can anyone help with a marriage for a Della Ashford around > > > > 1805 > > > > > > > > In "Loudoun Co. Will Book Abstracts" in the estate of Michael > > > Ashford, there is mention of Colly McAtee & wife Delilah, late > > > Delilah Ashford... > > > > > > LOUDOUN COUNTY VIRGINIA, Will Book Abstracts, Books A-Z, Dec 1757 - > Jun 1841, author is Patricia B. Duncan, Willow Bend Books, 2000 > > Mentions Wm. Ashfords children (Jane, Anna, & Michael) > Jno. Moxley & wife Sarah, late Sarah Ashford > Jno. Rightmyre & wife Anna, late Anna Ashford > Jno. Ashford > William Ashford > Thomas Gist & wife Elizabeth, late Elizabeth Ashford > Representatives of Rebecca McAtee, late Rebecca Ashford > Colly McAtee Admr. of Jane Leese, late Jane Ashford > Colly McAtee & wife Delilah, late Delilah Ashford > > There is a record of marriage in Loudoun Co. Marriages, by Vogt & > Kethley for > McAtee, Harrison & Rebecca Ashford, 24 Feb 1807 > > Hope this helps, > Cathy > clauer@oregonvos.net > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > >

YES Please tell me more, this is wonderful book is by who ?? Sondra On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:10:39 -0600 Cathy Lauer <clauer@oregonvos.net> writes: > sondrafoley@juno.com wrote: > > > > Hi List, > > > > Can anyone help with a marriage for a Della Ashford around > > 1805 > > > > Sondra > > > In "Loudoun Co. Will Book Abstracts" in the estate of Michael > Ashford, there is mention of Colly McAtee & wife Delilah, late > Delilah Ashford... > > Could this be the same person? > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > Have you posted your Loudoun Co. surnames lately? > New members are joining our mailing list every day. > Be sure to periodically remind us of your Loudoun research > interests. > >

Barb, Maybe, it is a guess and searching. Here is what I have. INDEX TO LOUDOUN CO. VA. WILLS 1757- 1850 by Hutchison. Ashford, Michael G:177 1804 Daughter's Sary Moxley, Anna Rightmire, Jane, DILLA, Recbeckah, Elizabeth. Son's John, William Grandchildren all children of son William : Jane,Anna,Michael Witness : George Shivelley, Esaias Horseman,Elisha Fox, William Wooleard, MCATEE, COLMAN Exor :Captain Charles Lewis, Henry Settle, John Moxley Later I find a Colley and Dilla McAtee married in census 1850 in OH. Also found a bit in a book that said that Colley Mcatee had came from Loudoun Co. Va. So Maybe. Will take any help I can get, please Sondra On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:53:25 EST RockCatt@aol.com writes: > Sondra, > Do you know anything else about Della Ashford? I'm a descendant of > Michael > Ashford b.1658 d. 1734 in Prince William Co., VA. He had several > descendants > and I'll bet your Della is one of them. > Barb Price > Researching: > HOLTZCLAW/HARDIN/BURNES/HARDY/ASHFORD/DOWDEN/OTTERBACK/FISCHBACK/STAFFORD /NEVI > > LLE/GRAHAM/HUME/HOGE/STEWART and Many More! > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > >

Sondra, Do you know anything else about Della Ashford? I'm a descendant of Michael Ashford b.1658 d. 1734 in Prince William Co., VA. He had several descendants and I'll bet your Della is one of them. Barb Price Researching: HOLTZCLAW/HARDIN/BURNES/HARDY/ASHFORD/DOWDEN/OTTERBACK/FISCHBACK/STAFFORD/NEVI LLE/GRAHAM/HUME/HOGE/STEWART and Many More!

sondrafoley@juno.com wrote: > > YES > Please tell me more, this is wonderful book is by who ?? > > Sondra > > > > Can anyone help with a marriage for a Della Ashford around > > > 1805 > > > > > In "Loudoun Co. Will Book Abstracts" in the estate of Michael > > Ashford, there is mention of Colly McAtee & wife Delilah, late > > Delilah Ashford... > > LOUDOUN COUNTY VIRGINIA, Will Book Abstracts, Books A-Z, Dec 1757 - Jun 1841, author is Patricia B. Duncan, Willow Bend Books, 2000 Mentions Wm. Ashfords children (Jane, Anna, & Michael) Jno. Moxley & wife Sarah, late Sarah Ashford Jno. Rightmyre & wife Anna, late Anna Ashford Jno. Ashford William Ashford Thomas Gist & wife Elizabeth, late Elizabeth Ashford Representatives of Rebecca McAtee, late Rebecca Ashford Colly McAtee Admr. of Jane Leese, late Jane Ashford Colly McAtee & wife Delilah, late Delilah Ashford There is a record of marriage in Loudoun Co. Marriages, by Vogt & Kethley for McAtee, Harrison & Rebecca Ashford, 24 Feb 1807 Hope this helps, Cathy clauer@oregonvos.net

ANY FUTHER COMMENTS from any of you re: RELIGION will only get you removed from this list. I ask at (9:44am 2/13/2002) for this to end, and no more to be said to the group. I DEMAND THAT it STOP NOW! I hate to be like this. BUT RELIGION, POLITICS, FLAME'ING will not be tolerated. DO U GET MY DRIFT. If any of you want to argue religion, DO IT PRIVATELY. I DO NOT WANT TO READ IT. PLEASE, Give me the PLEASURE of not removing you from the list and STOP NOW. RENA YOUR LIST ADM.

I was not arguing religion.The point was why Latterday Saints do genealogy!We have been doing this work for years.Long before it became a fad!!!! If our church was not doing this for as long as they have ,you would have very little info to search from. On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:15:04 -0800 "Norma Thompson" <nthmpsn@concentric.net> writes: > And I think one of the Usenet news groups is the proper forum to > argue religion. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Valerie Johnson" <wing@1st.net> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:08 AM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related > Families > > > > Colin, I think you may be coming down on me a bit hard. I never > condemned > > the belief of yours. I am not judging you at all. I simply asked > a > > question and now feel like I got my head bit off. Anyone who > knows me, > > knows I am extremely open to learning of other faiths and > accepting of their > > beliefs. I will not ever condemn them, it is for God to judge not > me. I > > hope this helps you understand where I was coming from. Valerie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin K. McCann" <oregduck@juno.com> > > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:37 AM > > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related > Families > > > > > > > The Bible says why baptise ye fore the dead if the dead rise > not.God does > > > nothing least he prepares a way for it to happen!If we are wrong > you have > > > nothing to worry about,if we are right > > > then....................!!!!!Enough said !!!!!!! > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:35:46 -0500 "Valerie Johnson" > <wing@1st.net> > > > writes: > > > > That is a good point. Not that I necessarily object but just > don't > > > > understand it. Obviously Lois and I are related to one another > yet I > > > > know my > > > > belief system is very different for I do not believe one can > baptize > > > > one who > > > > is already dead. I know that the Wright family and Paxson > family > > > > were > > > > strong Quakers and I honor them as of the faith they were when > > > > alive. This > > > > does not mean I condemn her beliefs for I am a very open > person in > > > > religious > > > > matters. I appreciate her explaining her belief system to me. > It > > > > helped to > > > > understand the dates in the materials. > > > > I realized afterwards that I did it to the list not her > privately > > > > but > > > > turned out to be a good discussion starter. We all have so > very > > > > much to > > > > learn. Thank you Lois for answering to the list too. > > > > Oh, Lois by the way.... I'm trying to figure out how we > are > > > > related but > > > > still haven't placed you in the tree. Can you help me??? I > guess > > > > we are > > > > probably cousins. > > > > Valerie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <RepAlciere@aol.com> > > > > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:42 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and > Related > > > > Families > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is important for researchers who are new to all this, to > > > > understand > > > > that > > > > > their family members sometimes may have serious concerns > about > > > > submission > > > > of > > > > > family genealogy information to the Church of Jesus Christ > of > > > > Latter-day > > > > > Saints for the performance of temple ordinances. ("I think > they'd > > > > rather > > > > stay > > > > > Catholic.") > > > > > > > > > > Not to take sides on it, just to point it out to researchers > for > > > > their own > > > > > consideration. > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 13-Feb-02 00:15:58 Greenwich Standard > Time, > > > > > ljmasters@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Subj: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and > Related > > > > Families > > > > > > Date: 13-Feb-02 00:15:58 Greenwich Standard Time > > > > > > From: ljmasters@yahoo.com (Lois Masters) > > > > > > Reply-to: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Valerie - > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, your question is a valid one. I am a member of > > > > > > The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints > > > > > > (commonly called Mormon). We believe that the family > > > > > > unit is an eternal unit; that is, we are families in > > > > > > this life and we will be a family in the next life if > > > > > > we live worthily of that blessing. We believe we can > > > > > > be reunited with other family members who live worthy > > > > > > lives and continue as a family unit. We believe there > > > > > > is still a parent -child relationship that continues > > > > > > eternally....that family members are linked in an > > > > > > eternal chain. However, we believe that some > > > > > > ordinances are only performed on earth - like baptism, > > > > > > endowment and the sealing which creates the eternal > > > > > > link. These ordinances are done in temples and are > > > > > > sacred to us. We do not believe that because we > > > > > > perform these ordinances, that individuals are > > > > > > compelled to accept them. Our right to choose is a > > > > > > God-given right and we can choose to accept or reject > > > > > > these ordinances as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > If a person does not believe in these temple > > > > > > ordinances, then they would be meaningless. If a > > > > > > person believes they are groundless, then these dates > > > > > > attached to them are meaningless dates. > > > > > > > > > > > > For further information on our beliefs you might want > > > > > > to link to familysearch.org - and then there are some > > > > > > links from there about our beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this answers your question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lois > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > > > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > Join Juno today! 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Hi List, Can anyone help with a marriage for a Della Ashford around 1805 Sondra

To the list, my appology ,all I have to say is that a lot of things get on these list that are not genealogy!!! On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 06:37:20 -0600 "K. B. Cook" <kbcook@mn.rr.com> writes: > Can we stop the religious treatise on this public forum? Most > Rootsweb.com > lists prohibit the discussion of religion & politics ... let's do > that! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin K. McCann" <oregduck@juno.com> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:27 PM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related > Families > > > > I second that,We believe that families are for ever and the Bible > says > > what is bound on earth is bound in heaven and what is loosed on > earth is > > loosed in heaven.The bible says be ye therefore perfect even as > your > > father in heaven is perfect .Even Christ was not perfect til he > died and > > rose from the grave in immortality.That is why we seek after our > kindred > > dead as we believe we cannot be saved without our family!!!! > > > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:13:58 -0800 (PST) Lois Masters > > <ljmasters@yahoo.com> writes: > > > Valerie - > > > > > > Yes, your question is a valid one. I am a member of > > > The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints > > > (commonly called Mormon). We believe that the family > > > unit is an eternal unit; that is, we are families in > > > this life and we will be a family in the next life if > > > we live worthily of that blessing. We believe we can > > > be reunited with other family members who live worthy > > > lives and continue as a family unit. We believe there > > > is still a parent -child relationship that continues > > > eternally....that family members are linked in an > > > eternal chain. However, we believe that some > > > ordinances are only performed on earth - like baptism, > > > endowment and the sealing which creates the eternal > > > link. These ordinances are done in temples and are > > > sacred to us. We do not believe that because we > > > perform these ordinances, that individuals are > > > compelled to accept them. Our right to choose is a > > > God-given right and we can choose to accept or reject > > > these ordinances as well. > > > > > > If a person does not believe in these temple > > > ordinances, then they would be meaningless. If a > > > person believes they are groundless, then these dates > > > attached to them are meaningless dates. > > > > > > For further information on our beliefs you might want > > > to link to familysearch.org - and then there are some > > > links from there about our beliefs. > > > > > > Hope this answers your question. > > > > > > Lois > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > My personal website: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~virginiawesttooregon > > > The complete database of our family history: > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~familylibrary/ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > > > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > To contact Listowner: > > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co. > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

sondrafoley@juno.com wrote: > > Hi List, > > Can anyone help with a marriage for a Della Ashford around > 1805 > > Sondra In "Loudoun Co. Will Book Abstracts" in the estate of Michael Ashford, there is mention of Colly McAtee & wife Delilah, late Delilah Ashford... Could this be the same person?

Hi Valarie, I am related thru the Stephens, TML, who married Carrie Myers. I have information further back if you wish. Best regards, Brenda

Marty: Thanks for bringing this to my attention. The source of the date is "Loudoun Co. VA Will Book Abstracts" Circuit Court Books 2A-3C June 1841 - Dec 1879 by Patricia Duncan. It reads: PIERCE, Hector: A/I of 25 Aug 1865: Admr Alcinda PIERCE; CtOD 15 Aug 1865; household items . . . Aprs: P. A. L. Smith, James Alder, Thomas Dowdell. RtCt4 Sep 1865 [2P:494] Then, immediately below it PEARCE, Hector: Debts to 1 Oct 1867; . . . RtCt 12 Apr 1869. [2U:322] S/A with Admr beginning 15 Aug 1868; . . . RtCt 12 Apr 1869. [2U:344] It didn't hit me that the settlement of his estate may have been delayed and that he may have actually died much earlier. Thanks for your input. Sandy

And I think one of the Usenet news groups is the proper forum to argue religion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Johnson" <wing@1st.net> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:08 AM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related Families > Colin, I think you may be coming down on me a bit hard. I never condemned > the belief of yours. I am not judging you at all. I simply asked a > question and now feel like I got my head bit off. Anyone who knows me, > knows I am extremely open to learning of other faiths and accepting of their > beliefs. I will not ever condemn them, it is for God to judge not me. I > hope this helps you understand where I was coming from. Valerie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin K. McCann" <oregduck@juno.com> > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:37 AM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related Families > > > > The Bible says why baptise ye fore the dead if the dead rise not.God does > > nothing least he prepares a way for it to happen!If we are wrong you have > > nothing to worry about,if we are right > > then....................!!!!!Enough said !!!!!!! > > > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:35:46 -0500 "Valerie Johnson" <wing@1st.net> > > writes: > > > That is a good point. Not that I necessarily object but just don't > > > understand it. Obviously Lois and I are related to one another yet I > > > know my > > > belief system is very different for I do not believe one can baptize > > > one who > > > is already dead. I know that the Wright family and Paxson family > > > were > > > strong Quakers and I honor them as of the faith they were when > > > alive. This > > > does not mean I condemn her beliefs for I am a very open person in > > > religious > > > matters. I appreciate her explaining her belief system to me. It > > > helped to > > > understand the dates in the materials. > > > I realized afterwards that I did it to the list not her privately > > > but > > > turned out to be a good discussion starter. We all have so very > > > much to > > > learn. Thank you Lois for answering to the list too. > > > Oh, Lois by the way.... I'm trying to figure out how we are > > > related but > > > still haven't placed you in the tree. Can you help me??? I guess > > > we are > > > probably cousins. > > > Valerie > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <RepAlciere@aol.com> > > > To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:42 PM > > > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related > > > Families > > > > > > > > > > It is important for researchers who are new to all this, to > > > understand > > > that > > > > their family members sometimes may have serious concerns about > > > submission > > > of > > > > family genealogy information to the Church of Jesus Christ of > > > Latter-day > > > > Saints for the performance of temple ordinances. ("I think they'd > > > rather > > > stay > > > > Catholic.") > > > > > > > > Not to take sides on it, just to point it out to researchers for > > > their own > > > > consideration. > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > In a message dated 13-Feb-02 00:15:58 Greenwich Standard Time, > > > > ljmasters@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > > > Subj: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Brill, Wright, Mead , Clyce and Related > > > Families > > > > > Date: 13-Feb-02 00:15:58 Greenwich Standard Time > > > > > From: ljmasters@yahoo.com (Lois Masters) > > > > > Reply-to: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > Valerie - > > > > > > > > > > Yes, your question is a valid one. I am a member of > > > > > The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints > > > > > (commonly called Mormon). We believe that the family > > > > > unit is an eternal unit; that is, we are families in > > > > > this life and we will be a family in the next life if > > > > > we live worthily of that blessing. We believe we can > > > > > be reunited with other family members who live worthy > > > > > lives and continue as a family unit. We believe there > > > > > is still a parent -child relationship that continues > > > > > eternally....that family members are linked in an > > > > > eternal chain. However, we believe that some > > > > > ordinances are only performed on earth - like baptism, > > > > > endowment and the sealing which creates the eternal > > > > > link. These ordinances are done in temples and are > > > > > sacred to us. We do not believe that because we > > > > > perform these ordinances, that individuals are > > > > > compelled to accept them. Our right to choose is a > > > > > God-given right and we can choose to accept or reject > > > > > these ordinances as well. > > > > > > > > > > If a person does not believe in these temple > > > > > ordinances, then they would be meaningless. If a > > > > > person believes they are groundless, then these dates > > > > > attached to them are meaningless dates. > > > > > > > > > > For further information on our beliefs you might want > > > > > to link to familysearch.org - and then there are some > > > > > links from there about our beliefs. > > > > > > > > > > Hope this answers your question. > > > > > > > > > > Lois > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > To contact Listowner: > > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > > Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co. > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > >

Hello all, Does anyone have access to obits or death certs in Loudoun Co for around 1940? I need info on an Elizabeth Jane Littleton Bayles who died around 1938-1940. She died in Loudoun Co (lived with her daughters family) but was buried in Clarke Co where she had lived with her husband. I'm trying to find her parents names. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Terry Littleton (sponsor of LITTLETON-L@rootsweb.com)

Try the marriage doccument, her parents will be on that as well. Rena List adm ----- Original Message ----- From: Littleton, Terry <TerryLi@lee.k12.fl.us> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:28 AM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Loudoun obit > Hello all, > > Does anyone have access to obits or death certs in Loudoun Co for around > 1940? > > I need info on an Elizabeth Jane Littleton Bayles who died around 1938-1940. > > She died in Loudoun Co (lived with her daughters family) but was buried in > Clarke Co where she had lived with her husband. I'm trying to find her > parents names. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Terry Littleton (sponsor of LITTLETON-L@rootsweb.com) > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co. > >

I agree with Edie. Unless a certain religious practice does hinge upon a specific family's history, IMHO it should not be on this list. An example: If a religion forbade installing a marked or inscribed tombstone, as I understand some-- not ALL--early Quakers did, that might explain why the final resting place of a relative could not be located. Or if an ancestor was a minister or church officer, practices of churches keeping records could be helpful. There are other uses of those records which are vital, but NOT indepth discussions of beliefs. Aye, Bob McArtor [looking for McArtors, good or bad, in 1800+/-Loudoun] ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hawbottom1@aol.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Re: VALOUDOU-D Digest V02 #32 > Should we not get off the discussion of religious preferences and back to > genealogy? > Edie > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > >

THIS STRING MUST STOP! Thank You Rena List ADM