Thanks for the reply, my dates could be wrong my aunt said she thought those were the dates after your post i talked to her again about it and she said your dates sounded more like it. She also told me that my great aunt Pleasant was working in Leesburg when all this went on. I feel so bad for all the victims of this tragady. My Aunt also said that they did not have time to do this horibably think to geat Aunt Pleasant because she ran away before it could happen. Im sorry for rambling i just wanted to say thanks for the reply. Marilyn

The Richmond Times Dispatch has recently had some articles on possible reparations to families of some of the girls that were sterilized. I was not aware of any individual "stealing" the girls or whatever, but I would suspect if you go to The Washington Post website, or the Richmond Times Dispatch website and do a search for articles on sterile or sterilization you might be able to read some of what has recently come to light. I grew up believing that this only happened to those who were incarcerated at the Staunton facility for mentally impaired persons - both males and females, but perhaps I misunderstood all of the ramifications involved. I have never seen anything about it in my family research, nor known anyone personally involved.

Marilyn, I think your aunt's story has some validity but I rely on other readers of the list in the Loudoun area to remember more details. A recent--past month or so--article in the Washington Post wrote about these sad cases, and much more recently than you cite, of sterilizations of girls, perhaps in the Staunton area? Help me, members... I had not heard of the ripple effect of children hearing about a man coming and running away as a result. That could explain family members' suddenly disappearing. On the contrary, I had heard of DC girls who had gotten pregnant in the 1940s and 50s who were sent to Leesburg--one man in his 70s I recently spoke to mentioned at least one home he remembered that took in such girls--for the term of their pregnancies.The infants were often quietly given up for adoption to new local families (arranged by Dr. Wynkoop, the local gynecologist who only died in the last 10 years or so), and the girls returned to their families in DC. Bronwen from Waterford -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Marlow [mailto:marilyn498@webtv.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:38 PM To: VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Wayward Children Hello everyone , I am about to ask a question that may sound strange but here goes. I was talking to my aunt who is 72 and she told me a strange story about my great Aunt Pleasant when she was a chid in Loudoun County, Virginia that a man came and took some of the girls from Loudoun County to Statton Virginia between 1912-1915 where they did some pretty bad things to these girls, experiments on them and made them streile. My great Aunt Pleasant was so scared that she ran away from there to Baltimore Md. and lived out her life there. Has anyone come across anything like this in their research if so let me know please. Marilyn ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. http://www.rootsweb.com

Hi everyone, I am now looking for my Adams connection, this is what I have : Peter Adams b. abt 1800-1810 married Lydia they had a daughter Jane A. Adams b. 1849 . Jane married Jesse Tribby 30 Jan 1879. I am looking for information on Jane's parents Peter and Lydia Adams. Jane was born and raised in Loudoun County Va. Any help I get will be greatly appreciated Thanks, Marilyn

Hello everyone , I am about to ask a question that may sound strange but here goes. I was talking to my aunt who is 72 and she told me a strange story about my great Aunt Pleasant when she was a chid in Loudoun County, Virginia that a man came and took some of the girls from Loudoun County to Statton Virginia between 1912-1915 where they did some pretty bad things to these girls, experiments on them and made them streile. My great Aunt Pleasant was so scared that she ran away from there to Baltimore Md. and lived out her life there. Has anyone come across anything like this in their research if so let me know please. Marilyn

Looking for information on an Alexandria Poland. Died 1863, killed by Mosby's Rangers. Married A Titlow from Maryland.---- Original Message ----- From: <Ginnypin@aol.com> To: <VALOUDOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Templer and Janney connections > I sent an e-mail to Chartemp@aol.com. It will not go through. Can you tell > me > why. Ginnypin@aol.com > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > Have you posted your Loudoun Co. surnames lately? > New members are joining our mailing list every day. > Be sure to periodically remind us of your Loudoun research interests. > > >

Virginia...watching replies to your query...I don't have the Union Cemetery book only the New Jerusalem which is the OLD cemetery behind the church but I checked in that and found nothing on either Younkin or Firestone. I did find the following in the St. James United Church of Christ Church Register of Loudoun County, VA translated from German to English by Jerry and Tedi Jeen Mower: Pg. 12: George born 10 October 1793; bap. 26 Dec 1793; parents: Johann Juncken; godparents: Jacob Adams and wife. Pg. 23: Rudolph Junckin and w/Elisabeth parents of Samuel b. 2 Sep 1798; bap. 31 Mar 1799; Wit: John Junkin and w/Chatharina. Don't know if any of this help...good luck! Looks like you got a lot of response! Shelvy

Virginia, Barbara, Cathy and all; Are these Younkins part of the same family that is found in the Turkeyfoot Township area of Somerset County, PA? If so, I am interested in their migration patters. Did they move from Loudoun to Somerset? This is one of the families associated with my May family in Somerset, and I know there were Mays at the New Jerusalem church early on but do not have the details. I am not sure if these Mays are the same as my family, but the Ansel(l) family at New Jerusalem was another family associated with my Mays later on in Somerset. Regards, Susan Lewis On Mon, 20 May 2002 05:58:31 -0400 Harold and Barbara Martin <hjmartinsprint0@earthlink.net> writes: > > >Virga1234@aol.com wrote: > >> >> I have also been trying to find marriage info for the following >couples ; >> first 4 children of John M. Younkin and Catherina may have been born >in >> Lovettsville Va but later children George and Charles Younkin were >born in >> Lottsville, Va in 1794 and 1796 >> >> John Michael Younkin who was born 28 Oct 1756 Bedminster Twp., Pa >and >> married a Catherina? (prob. Loudoun Co.,Va), John M. Younkin d. Oct >1826 in >> Pa. >> >> John Michael's son Jacob Younkin b. abt 1781 (prob Loudoun Co.,Va) >married >> Eleanor? , prob Loudoun Co.,VA, Jacob d. Somerset Co.,Pa 1848. >> >> William Younkin s/o Jacob and Eleanor Younkin married Catherine >Firestone, >> dau of John Firestone of Va. (Loudoun Co.??) >> > >Virginia - >In the book “St. James United Church of Christ Church Register >(Reformed Church) >Loudoun County, Virginia ca Sep 17, 1789-August 23, 1823 translated >from German >by Jerry & Tedi Jeen Mower > >I found the following: > >Maria Madgalena born 12 Dec 1789, Father – Johannes Junken, Mother – >Catharina; >Godparents: Jacob Dorsheimer and his wife Clara > >George born 10 Oct 1793; bap. 26 Dec 1793; parents: Johann Juncken; >godparents: >Jacob Berg & wife > >Rudolph Junckin and w/Elisabeth parents of Samuel b. 2 ep 1798; bap 31 >Mar 1799; >Wit: John Junkin and w/Chatharina > >Jacob Junken and w/Eleanor parents of Wilhelm b. 22 Apr 1805; Wit: >Christoph >Bornhaus & Rosina > >Barbara >Melbourne, FL > > > >==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== >To contact Listowner: >Rena Worthen doreatr@rbnet.com > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Virga1234@aol.com wrote: > > I have also been trying to find marriage info for the following couples ; > first 4 children of John M. Younkin and Catherina may have been born in > Lovettsville Va but later children George and Charles Younkin were born in > Lottsville, Va in 1794 and 1796 > > John Michael Younkin who was born 28 Oct 1756 Bedminster Twp., Pa and > married a Catherina? (prob. Loudoun Co.,Va), John M. Younkin d. Oct 1826 in > Pa. > > John Michael's son Jacob Younkin b. abt 1781 (prob Loudoun Co.,Va) married > Eleanor? , prob Loudoun Co.,VA, Jacob d. Somerset Co.,Pa 1848. > > William Younkin s/o Jacob and Eleanor Younkin married Catherine Firestone, > dau of John Firestone of Va. (Loudoun Co.??) > Virginia - In the book “St. James United Church of Christ Church Register (Reformed Church) Loudoun County, Virginia ca Sep 17, 1789-August 23, 1823 translated from German by Jerry & Tedi Jeen Mower I found the following: Maria Madgalena born 12 Dec 1789, Father – Johannes Junken, Mother – Catharina; Godparents: Jacob Dorsheimer and his wife Clara George born 10 Oct 1793; bap. 26 Dec 1793; parents: Johann Juncken; godparents: Jacob Berg & wife Rudolph Junckin and w/Elisabeth parents of Samuel b. 2 ep 1798; bap 31 Mar 1799; Wit: John Junkin and w/Chatharina Jacob Junken and w/Eleanor parents of Wilhelm b. 22 Apr 1805; Wit: Christoph Bornhaus & Rosina Barbara Melbourne, FL

> > John Michael's son Jacob Younkin b. abt 1781 (prob Loudoun Co.,Va) married > Eleanor? , prob Loudoun Co.,VA, Jacob d. Somerset Co.,Pa 1848. > Virginia - I have information that shows that Jacob Younkin married Eleanor Chambers (b. abt. 1780) d/o William and Anne (nee Booth) Chambers. Sorry no specific dates as where or when. Barbara Melbourne, FL

Shelvy Do you have the sirnames Younkin (Junghen) or Firestone listed for Lovettsville Union Cemetary? Also wonder if you might have seen these names while working on Loudoun Co research....... I have also been trying to find marriage info for the following couples ; first 4 children of John M. Younkin and Catherina may have been born in Lovettsville Va but later children George and Charles Younkin were born in Lottsville, Va in 1794 and 1796 John Michael Younkin who was born 28 Oct 1756 Bedminster Twp., Pa and married a Catherina? (prob. Loudoun Co.,Va), John M. Younkin d. Oct 1826 in Pa. John Michael's son Jacob Younkin b. abt 1781 (prob Loudoun Co.,Va) married Eleanor? , prob Loudoun Co.,VA, Jacob d. Somerset Co.,Pa 1848. William Younkin s/o Jacob and Eleanor Younkin married Catherine Firestone, dau of John Firestone of Va. (Loudoun Co.??) Recently saw the name Tushtimer mentioned in an old query placed back in 1999 @ rootsweb asking about a Catharina Tushtimer who married a......... Younkin, she was mentioned as dau of Jacob Tushtimer, Loudoun Co.,Va. I have requested a Loudoun C. film @ FHL which may help when it arrives, but in the meantime...... Thanks so much for any help re Loudoun Co., Virginia Tempe, AZ

Virga1234@aol.com wrote: > > Recently saw the name Tushtimer mentioned in an old query placed back in 1999 > @ rootsweb asking about a Catharina Tushtimer who married a......... Younkin, > she was mentioned as dau of Jacob Tushtimer, Loudoun Co.,Va. Virginia, Regarding your interest in TUSHIMER....The name should actually be Dorscheimer, but I have seen it spelled various ways with a 'T'. I have never come across any information that Jacob and Clara Dorscheimer had a daughter named Catherine. In the St. James United Church of Christ there is a record of birth for Maria Magdalena, born 12 Dec 1789, daughter of Johannes Junken and mother Catharina. Godparents were Jacob Dorsheimer and his wife Clara. I would be interested to hear more from anyone who has information on Catharina. Cathy clauer@oregonvos.net

I sent an e-mail to Chartemp@aol.com. It will not go through. Can you tell me why. Ginnypin@aol.com

I am trying to find any information about my ggrandmother Frances (Fannie) BEACH. Born about 1849 in Virginia?, Maryland? or Washington, DC? I have seen information which names all three as her birthplace. Her mother's name may have been either Susan or Jane. Father's name unknown. She was married to Denis J. SULLIVAN although I have no proof that a marriage actually took place. They had a daughter, Grace, born about 1871 in Virginia? according to the 1880 census by which time they were living in Staten Island, NY. Any information as to her actual place of birth greatly appreciated. --- Charles Holtzback --- charles1928@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Greetings.   I am still working on this big Templer family and their connections in Loudoun County, VA.  Among those connections is the family of Francis Hague Janney and Emily Catherine Templer.  I am now informed that those two persons are buried in Goose Creek Burying Ground.  It is also possible that any or all of the following children are buried there.  Can someone check that cemetery list for me, please? Children of Francis and Emily (Templer) Janney and spouses: Henry Thornton Janney and Cosmelia Janney Hoge Millard Fillmore Janney and Annie McGavock Mary Mitchell Janney Cornelia Janney and William Thornton Martin Emily Catherine Janney Jane Janney Charles Chester Janney Asa Moore Janney and (1) Sarah P. Hughes and (2) Blandina Lutz Amanda Caroline Janney Lucy Janney and William Frederick Peabody Thanks for your help, Charlie Templer

Thanks Gary I found a obit for Annie Jane Fry maiden name Tribby. I also have some Virts family members in my mothers family. Her grandparents are Charles L. Fry and Annie Jane Tribby. Do you have any Fry's in your line. Marilyn

Hi everyone hope you all are having a wonderful day ! I am looking for Pleasant Fry Rickerd born 20 Feb 1902 to Charles and Annie Fry. She married Mr Rickerd ( first name unknown) about 1920. She was killed by a drunk driver in Baltimore MD. around 1950-55. She was born and raised in Loudoun County. Any information on this person would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for all the help everyone has given me these last several months. Marilyn

The Cemetery in Brunswick is Park Heights and it is Located on H Street. Gary Virts

The State of IL just put up a new searchable database - Death Index, 1916-1951 at http://www2.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html

Is anyone familiar with a Robert Stephens/Stevens who lived in Loudoun(?) cir 1878 and attested to a Stephens marriage at Ebenezer Methodist in Loudoun Heights? This Robert may just break down my brick wall. Thanks.