Hi, All! I've been transcribing some old deed records and noticed that sometimes there is a notation in the margin next to the statement indicating it was recorded that says "examined" or sometimes "examd". Sometimes it's the word alone. Sometimes there is a name and date. Sometimes is says "examined and delivered to" (in various abbreviations) followed by a name and a date. What does this mean? Who is doing the examining? Does it indicate some kind of change of ownership? I'd appreciate any enlightenment here.... Thanks, Kathe (Ruse) Richards

Best wishes for speedy healing of your sore areas. And you type very well left handed! I'll keep you in my prayers. Tosca "People will never look forward to posterity who never look back to their ancestors" by Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rena" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 4:18 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] not genealogy from Rena > About my accident. I fell Sunday in a cemetery where i was taking pictures > of a dedication of CSA markers in the Lithia Methodist Church Cemetery. I > was backing up to get a better view and down i went..I did get 46 pictures > before I Fell. I'll share on the website when I feel better. > > Thank you all for your kindnss and best wishes. > > Barbara Stanley took me for my medicine today. My right wrist is broken, my > hip is bruised, but not broken. I also hurt my ankle and my neck. I'm > fortunate to just have a broken wrist, as my head almost hit a marker. I > took a pretty hard tumble. > > This is a left hand letter. As you all may know, I am not a left hand > typist. > > I have to go tomorrow (WED) for my cast. Right now I have a splint and a lot > of pain and swelling. the medicine helps a lot. I will try to read all the > mail, but i'm not able to do lookups... to type takes a great deal of effort > for me. I'll probably be off from work a week or more. > > Freddie, Barbara Stanley is watching my mail list. > > I am also including Montgomery in this note, as I have several relatives on > that list. > > Rena Worthen [email protected] > WHO, WHEN, and WHERE are the three essential ingredients for successful > genealogical research! > Genealogy without documentation is MYTHOLOGY > Founder and President > Craig - Botetourt Genealogy Club > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. >

About my accident. I fell Sunday in a cemetery where i was taking pictures of a dedication of CSA markers in the Lithia Methodist Church Cemetery. I was backing up to get a better view and down i went..I did get 46 pictures before I Fell. I'll share on the website when I feel better. Thank you all for your kindnss and best wishes. Barbara Stanley took me for my medicine today. My right wrist is broken, my hip is bruised, but not broken. I also hurt my ankle and my neck. I'm fortunate to just have a broken wrist, as my head almost hit a marker. I took a pretty hard tumble. This is a left hand letter. As you all may know, I am not a left hand typist. I have to go tomorrow (WED) for my cast. Right now I have a splint and a lot of pain and swelling. the medicine helps a lot. I will try to read all the mail, but i'm not able to do lookups... to type takes a great deal of effort for me. I'll probably be off from work a week or more. Freddie, Barbara Stanley is watching my mail list. I am also including Montgomery in this note, as I have several relatives on that list. Rena Worthen [email protected] WHO, WHEN, and WHERE are the three essential ingredients for successful genealogical research! Genealogy without documentation is MYTHOLOGY Founder and President Craig - Botetourt Genealogy Club

Please send your queries to [email protected] Otherwise only I will see them. THANK YOU Rena List ADM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Fierke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: Roach >I am researching, and descended from William Roach, born 1731 in Leesburg, >Loudoun Co., VA., and his wife, Amelia Morris, and would appreciate hearing >from anyone related to these families. One of my sources thinks that this >William served with George Washington, in his "Elite Guard during the >Revolutionary War. He also owned property in the historical part of >Alexandria, Fairfax Co., VA, which, I assume at this time, was earlier, >part of Loudoun Co. Phyllis >

Yes its correct ,thank you also, just trying to get back into the loop slowly but surley. D.L.M.F RETIRED P. I. , FAMILY GENEALOGIST http://www.geocities.com/pifox1/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Tosca Simms To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Florida Couple Records Burials at 19 Clarke County Cemeteries Thank you Deborah (I hope that is the right spelling for your name) for an interesting article. It's been a long while since we emailed. Hope you are doing just fine! From: "pifox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Florida Couple Records Burials at 19 Clarke County Cemeteries > > We Washed a Lot of Tombstones' > Florida Couple Records Burials at 19 Clarke County Cemeteries in Second Book > > By Val Van Meter > The Winchester Star > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > BERRYVILLE - It's not every woman who is willing to spend her wedding anniversary in a cemetery. > > But this was the case recently for Mary Royston, along with her husband, Don, who were conducting research. > > The couple completed a second book, cataloging burials at 19 cemeteries in Clarke County and incorporating information for 63 others. > > "I would not have had the patience to do this," said Mary Morris, archivist for the Clarke County Historical Association. > > But Morris was the spur that led the Roystons to the project. > > It was Donald Royston's interest in his family tree that first brought the Ocala, Fla., residents to Clarke County's Green Hill Cemetery four years ago. > > Royston is a Clarke County native, while his wife hails from Winchester. > > Many of Don Royston's ancestors were moved to Green Hill after the widening of U.S. 50 destroyed the family graveyard above Berry's Ferry. > > But finding a grave in that cemetery was difficult. > > So the Roystons dedicated two years to recording the almost 7,000 names they could decipher on the cemetery's tombstones that date back to 1873. > > When they offered a copy of the book they created to Morris, she mentioned the need for similar research at the many other cemeteries in the county. > > Last summer, the Roystons dug into the new project. > > "We had to," Don Royston explained, "because that's when we were here." > > Cooler weather is a better time for cemetery research, the couple agreed: less vegetation and less chance of encountering a snake as Mary Royston did at Green Hill. But, they didn't have that luxury in their schedule. > > The Roystons said Morris provided part of the book's information, from an index of old cemeteries which was printed in the proceedings over 60 years ago. > > She also helped to update the references to the locations of the old cemeteries. Many were listed as being on a certain farm, but the ownership has changed since then. > > The Roystons said they also got invaluable help from people who continue to care for the cemeteries. > > "Dorothy Davis was very helpful with the Milton Valley Cemetery," Don Royston said. They worked closely with her, trying to align their findings in the cemetery with her work on records of burials. > > "We washed a lot of tombstones," Don noted. > > Their work cataloging the names of those buried in Clarke has given them many insights into the county's history. > > "I was amazed that so many of them had served in the armed forces," Mary said. > > Although their efforts have yielded thousands of names, and some information on those buried in the county, there are still plenty of gaps, Don said. > > For instance, many of the cemeteries have sunken places indicating a grave, but no tombstone, according to Don. > > And, he said, there are probably many old family cemeteries that no one now can locate. "That's sad." > > The cemetery lists, he added, are not "a complete work. There's a lot of information that isn't in there." > > That search for information is the spark that got Don started on these projects. > > "I love history, any kind," he said. > > He's written a history of his family in Clarke. The first Royston, Peter, may have come from the Tidewater area. Four of his sons signed the petition to split Clarke from Frederick County in 1836. > > Although he knows where Peter lived on the Blue Ridge, Don said he has yet to discover exactly where Peter sprang from. > > But he hasn't given up. Every so often, he stumbles over a new piece of information that raises hope there may be a trail back to Royston's beginnings. > > For instance, he said, he recently read a young woman's Civil War journal that mentioned an artillery shelling on the Blue Ridge. One person was injured, she wrote, at the Matthew Royston home. > > "That was Matthew Whiting Royston," a brother to my great grandfather," he said. > > At a meeting of the Genealogical Exchange, Don was shown a piece of metal that may have been the actual shell. It was dug out of the ground when that old Royston homestead was cleared. > > He's found many stories of his ancestors, things "I never knew, until I started this." > > The Roystons' two books have made quite a contribution to the research of others, Morris said. > > Now, she said, genealogists "won't have to walk through the whole cemetery," trying to find a name. > > And, maybe someday, someone will offer the Roystons Peter's name, from the place where he was born. > > Copies of the Roystons' latest book, "Cemeteries of Clarke County Virginia," can be purchased at the Clarke County Historical Association museum in Berryville for $19.95. The book is also available from New Papyrus Publishing. The museum also has copies of the Roystons' catalogue of burials in Green Hill for $29.95 > > http://www.winchesterstar.com/TheWinchesterStar/050813/Life_tombstones.asp > > D.L.M.F > RETIRED P. I. , FAMILY GENEALOGIST > http://www.geocities.com/pifox1/index.html > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen [email protected] > Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co.;FISHER in Fauquier Co.; HATCHER in Henrico Co. > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person.

Thank you Deborah (I hope that is the right spelling for your name) for an interesting article. It's been a long while since we emailed. Hope you are doing just fine! From: "pifox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Florida Couple Records Burials at 19 Clarke County Cemeteries > > We Washed a Lot of Tombstones' > Florida Couple Records Burials at 19 Clarke County Cemeteries in Second Book > > By Val Van Meter > The Winchester Star > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > BERRYVILLE - It's not every woman who is willing to spend her wedding anniversary in a cemetery. > > But this was the case recently for Mary Royston, along with her husband, Don, who were conducting research. > > The couple completed a second book, cataloging burials at 19 cemeteries in Clarke County and incorporating information for 63 others. > > "I would not have had the patience to do this," said Mary Morris, archivist for the Clarke County Historical Association. > > But Morris was the spur that led the Roystons to the project. > > It was Donald Royston's interest in his family tree that first brought the Ocala, Fla., residents to Clarke County's Green Hill Cemetery four years ago. > > Royston is a Clarke County native, while his wife hails from Winchester. > > Many of Don Royston's ancestors were moved to Green Hill after the widening of U.S. 50 destroyed the family graveyard above Berry's Ferry. > > But finding a grave in that cemetery was difficult. > > So the Roystons dedicated two years to recording the almost 7,000 names they could decipher on the cemetery's tombstones that date back to 1873. > > When they offered a copy of the book they created to Morris, she mentioned the need for similar research at the many other cemeteries in the county. > > Last summer, the Roystons dug into the new project. > > "We had to," Don Royston explained, "because that's when we were here." > > Cooler weather is a better time for cemetery research, the couple agreed: less vegetation and less chance of encountering a snake as Mary Royston did at Green Hill. But, they didn't have that luxury in their schedule. > > The Roystons said Morris provided part of the book's information, from an index of old cemeteries which was printed in the proceedings over 60 years ago. > > She also helped to update the references to the locations of the old cemeteries. Many were listed as being on a certain farm, but the ownership has changed since then. > > The Roystons said they also got invaluable help from people who continue to care for the cemeteries. > > "Dorothy Davis was very helpful with the Milton Valley Cemetery," Don Royston said. They worked closely with her, trying to align their findings in the cemetery with her work on records of burials. > > "We washed a lot of tombstones," Don noted. > > Their work cataloging the names of those buried in Clarke has given them many insights into the county's history. > > "I was amazed that so many of them had served in the armed forces," Mary said. > > Although their efforts have yielded thousands of names, and some information on those buried in the county, there are still plenty of gaps, Don said. > > For instance, many of the cemeteries have sunken places indicating a grave, but no tombstone, according to Don. > > And, he said, there are probably many old family cemeteries that no one now can locate. "That's sad." > > The cemetery lists, he added, are not "a complete work. There's a lot of information that isn't in there." > > That search for information is the spark that got Don started on these projects. > > "I love history, any kind," he said. > > He's written a history of his family in Clarke. The first Royston, Peter, may have come from the Tidewater area. Four of his sons signed the petition to split Clarke from Frederick County in 1836. > > Although he knows where Peter lived on the Blue Ridge, Don said he has yet to discover exactly where Peter sprang from. > > But he hasn't given up. Every so often, he stumbles over a new piece of information that raises hope there may be a trail back to Royston's beginnings. > > For instance, he said, he recently read a young woman's Civil War journal that mentioned an artillery shelling on the Blue Ridge. One person was injured, she wrote, at the Matthew Royston home. > > "That was Matthew Whiting Royston," a brother to my great grandfather," he said. > > At a meeting of the Genealogical Exchange, Don was shown a piece of metal that may have been the actual shell. It was dug out of the ground when that old Royston homestead was cleared. > > He's found many stories of his ancestors, things "I never knew, until I started this." > > The Roystons' two books have made quite a contribution to the research of others, Morris said. > > Now, she said, genealogists "won't have to walk through the whole cemetery," trying to find a name. > > And, maybe someday, someone will offer the Roystons Peter's name, from the place where he was born. > > Copies of the Roystons' latest book, "Cemeteries of Clarke County Virginia," can be purchased at the Clarke County Historical Association museum in Berryville for $19.95. The book is also available from New Papyrus Publishing. The museum also has copies of the Roystons' catalogue of burials in Green Hill for $29.95 > > http://www.winchesterstar.com/TheWinchesterStar/050813/Life_tombstones.asp > > D.L.M.F > RETIRED P. I. , FAMILY GENEALOGIST > http://www.geocities.com/pifox1/index.html > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen [email protected] > Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co.;FISHER in Fauquier Co.; HATCHER in Henrico Co. >

We Washed a Lot of Tombstones' Florida Couple Records Burials at 19 Clarke County Cemeteries in Second Book By Val Van Meter The Winchester Star -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BERRYVILLE - It's not every woman who is willing to spend her wedding anniversary in a cemetery. But this was the case recently for Mary Royston, along with her husband, Don, who were conducting research. The couple completed a second book, cataloging burials at 19 cemeteries in Clarke County and incorporating information for 63 others. "I would not have had the patience to do this," said Mary Morris, archivist for the Clarke County Historical Association. But Morris was the spur that led the Roystons to the project. It was Donald Royston's interest in his family tree that first brought the Ocala, Fla., residents to Clarke County's Green Hill Cemetery four years ago. Royston is a Clarke County native, while his wife hails from Winchester. Many of Don Royston's ancestors were moved to Green Hill after the widening of U.S. 50 destroyed the family graveyard above Berry's Ferry. But finding a grave in that cemetery was difficult. So the Roystons dedicated two years to recording the almost 7,000 names they could decipher on the cemetery's tombstones that date back to 1873. When they offered a copy of the book they created to Morris, she mentioned the need for similar research at the many other cemeteries in the county. Last summer, the Roystons dug into the new project. "We had to," Don Royston explained, "because that's when we were here." Cooler weather is a better time for cemetery research, the couple agreed: less vegetation and less chance of encountering a snake as Mary Royston did at Green Hill. But, they didn't have that luxury in their schedule. The Roystons said Morris provided part of the book's information, from an index of old cemeteries which was printed in the proceedings over 60 years ago. She also helped to update the references to the locations of the old cemeteries. Many were listed as being on a certain farm, but the ownership has changed since then. The Roystons said they also got invaluable help from people who continue to care for the cemeteries. "Dorothy Davis was very helpful with the Milton Valley Cemetery," Don Royston said. They worked closely with her, trying to align their findings in the cemetery with her work on records of burials. "We washed a lot of tombstones," Don noted. Their work cataloging the names of those buried in Clarke has given them many insights into the county's history. "I was amazed that so many of them had served in the armed forces," Mary said. Although their efforts have yielded thousands of names, and some information on those buried in the county, there are still plenty of gaps, Don said. For instance, many of the cemeteries have sunken places indicating a grave, but no tombstone, according to Don. And, he said, there are probably many old family cemeteries that no one now can locate. "That's sad." The cemetery lists, he added, are not "a complete work. There's a lot of information that isn't in there." That search for information is the spark that got Don started on these projects. "I love history, any kind," he said. He's written a history of his family in Clarke. The first Royston, Peter, may have come from the Tidewater area. Four of his sons signed the petition to split Clarke from Frederick County in 1836. Although he knows where Peter lived on the Blue Ridge, Don said he has yet to discover exactly where Peter sprang from. But he hasn't given up. Every so often, he stumbles over a new piece of information that raises hope there may be a trail back to Royston's beginnings. For instance, he said, he recently read a young woman's Civil War journal that mentioned an artillery shelling on the Blue Ridge. One person was injured, she wrote, at the Matthew Royston home. "That was Matthew Whiting Royston," a brother to my great grandfather," he said. At a meeting of the Genealogical Exchange, Don was shown a piece of metal that may have been the actual shell. It was dug out of the ground when that old Royston homestead was cleared. He's found many stories of his ancestors, things "I never knew, until I started this." The Roystons' two books have made quite a contribution to the research of others, Morris said. Now, she said, genealogists "won't have to walk through the whole cemetery," trying to find a name. And, maybe someday, someone will offer the Roystons Peter's name, from the place where he was born. Copies of the Roystons' latest book, "Cemeteries of Clarke County Virginia," can be purchased at the Clarke County Historical Association museum in Berryville for $19.95. The book is also available from New Papyrus Publishing. The museum also has copies of the Roystons' catalogue of burials in Green Hill for $29.95 http://www.winchesterstar.com/TheWinchesterStar/050813/Life_tombstones.asp D.L.M.F RETIRED P. I. , FAMILY GENEALOGIST http://www.geocities.com/pifox1/index.html

I descend from the Fouche's as well. Brenda J Scott Dispatcher-Smart Parks -----Original Message----- From: Pamela [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Re: Fouch Dear James, May I ask the name of this book. These are also my Fouch Family. I have a marriage certificate for John Fouch and Margaret Danner in Maryland. My cousin who did Fouch genealogy gave me a little information on Fouch's. I believe I descend from the Amos Fouch line. Many Blessings, Pam D. Anthem, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. A. Holifield" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:20 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Re: Fouch > Blessings Catherine Watts Ellis, > You are in luck; that is if the name you seek was also spelled > "Fouche". > There was a Thomas Fouch(e) that purchased a lovely 18th century home > called "Holyfield" in 1821 I think it was. And low and behold, I am > descended > from the original owner of that property,Valentine Holyfield who obtained > a > Land Grant on March 5, 1729. And originally it was 342 acres, and it now > is > approximately 170 acres which lies about 5.5 miles south of Leesburg,VA on > Gulick Mill Rd. And not only that; the 18th century house that perhaps > dates > back to my ancestor, Valentine Holyfield who lived there from 1729-1746, a > nd where Thomas Fouch(e) lived from about 1821 - 1828 when he died > (going from memory) is still standing and still being lived in! > The current property today of 170 acres has a fair market value of at > least > $8,000,000.00. It is now owned by a 3-man partnership; one of which lived > there > along with is wife from 1977 - 2002. His former wife still lives on this > property, > but is in the process of moving. The former property of our ancestor's to > the west > belongs to a different land developement company and they are in the > process > of building new high end homes on it between "Evergreen Mills Rd." to the > West and > up to the "Hollyfield Farm" property on "Gulick Mills Rd."to the east. > There is a > Donkey Farm located on this propety,which is being relocated due to nearby > delvelopement. > And the website for it which includes pictures is: > http://www.hollyfieldfarm.com/hollyfield_farm_farm_history.htm and a > simple website that > I have for my family history, which has some pictures as well is: > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&ext=1&groupid=189892&c k= > > To the South/Southwest of the 18th century home of our ancestor's is where > Thomas > Fouche's son Amos Fouche lived. There is still a partially burned barn > that has fallen into > disrepair and just to the right of it was a small log cabin that had > gotten overgrown with > trees/shrubery and it was taken down a few weeks ago by the developers,but > the old barn > is still there from the 1820's. It's a beautiful place, except for new > housing going up on each > side after 300 years. Also, your distant relatives gave me the > information to locate this property > with it's 18th century house & it's additions. > Also in a book I have is listed the following: > > In 1758, a John Fouch and Jacob Fouch were extradited to Maryland on Theft > charges (possibly > of a black,Mulatto, or Indian Slave), in which case one would have been > executed by hanging. > > November 13th & 14th, 1759 is listed a record of Prison Guards being paid > for a list of > prisoners; one of which is Jacob Fouch. > > June 12, 1760 - Issac Fouch & his wife Mary Fouch are 1 of 3 couples bring > a complaint of Chancery against another couple who are executors of the > Will of Mary Jennings, deceased. LoudounCounty,VA,-Book A,page-371. > > March 14, 1764 - Alexander Bowling and John Fouch are charged with > "Stealing an Ax the property of Hugh Fouch........and 3 other men", in > which both of the defendants are aquitted and discharged. Loudoun > County - Book B, page-281. > > June 13, 1766 - Isaac Fouch and Mary Fouch are among > a number of people who are suing the Estate of Mary Jennings. > Loudoun County,VA-Book C,page-130. > > September 10, 1766 - Alice Fouch is identified as the wife of Jacob Fouch. > Loudoun County,VA Book C, page 195. > > So I hope this gives you a link and adds to your Family Tree. I could not > find the "Fouche website" that had the reference to Thompson or Thomas > Fouche's family & his children,Thompson,Amos,Mary & Temple Fouche who > lived on Holyfield Farm in the 1820's and later to about 1852. > > Blessings, > James A. Holifield > Pensacola,FL > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rena" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:32 AM > Subject: Fouch > > >>I am looking for information on Nancy Fouch who married my ancestor Monnze >>(Mount Zion) WATTS on 6 Sep 1815 in Loudoun County, VA They were married >>by Minister-John Littlejohn, Methodist. They had two children: Thomas, >>born: 06 Jun 1817 and Mary Anne, born: 19 Apr 1819. Nancy died sometime >>between the birth of Mary Anne and 1830. Mount Zion Watts remarried after >>her death. >> >> Thank you for any information you can glean for me. >> >> Catherine Watts Ellis >> Currently living in >> Christchurch, New Zealand >> [email protected] >> >> Please reply directly to Catherine, as she is not a list member. >> ______________________________ > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== To contact Listowner: Rena Worthen [email protected] Researching JEWEL in Loudoun Co.

--0-1278553663-1123162160=:1539 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. --0-1278553663-1123162160=:1539 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from [70.249.34.48] by web81910.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Aug 2005 10:02:41 PDT Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 10:02:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathe Richards <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Fw: Fouch/Mountzion Watts To: Rena <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1287 Hi, Rena! There is a detailed description of this subject in Patricia Law Hatcher's book "Locating Your Roots: Discover Your Ancestors Using Land Records". Public land states (where most of the land was transferred from the federal government to individuals) were surveyed using the "township-range" system. This system defines six mile square townships comprised of 36 one-mile-square sections. "Townships" is defined as a "Six-mile-wide strips counted north and south from a baseline." There is also a "named Township which often approximately coincides with a township, but named townships are political boundaries." Virginia, one of the original colonies, used the metes and bounds system of land description. Hope this helps! Kathe --- Rena <[email protected]> wrote: > Another Question fron Ron & Cathy > [email protected] . This realy don't pertain > to VALoudou, or Virginia for that matter, But I > don't Know about the "TOWNSHIP" question, and it may > help all of us. I know Pennsylvania has Townships > and Va doesn't. At any rate maybe we can all learn.. > > Rena > List Adm. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron & Cathy Ellis > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:06 AM > Subject: Fouch/Mountzion Watts > > > Rena, > > Thanks for this info. It coincides somewhat with > info I have. Mountzion received two farms in > Muskingum Co, OH as a result of serving in the War > of 1812...one in Zanesville and one in Monroe > Township. I know he moved out to Muskingum Co. but > I wasn't sure just where. I will look into this > Adams Township. I do have another question. What > does "township" actually indicate? I was looking > for Monroe, OH in a current road atlas, thinking > Township meant "the beginning of a town or city. I > found a Monroe in Butler Co, OH a county other than > Muskingum. Do you think it was likely that > Mountzion was granted two farms in two different > counties which weren't even adjacent to one another? > Or did "township" imply something else? > > Thanks for any further help you can find for me. > > Catherine > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list > possible. > http://www.rootsweb.com > > --0-1278553663-1123162160=:1539--

A township is 36 sections, each a mile square. Land descriptions of a section divided: NW Quarter, NE Quarter, SW Quarter and SE Quarter, and may be further sub-divided as: the SW 1/4 of the SE 1/4 of Section 2 amounting to 40 acres. Some areas need descriptions for irregular plots of land surrounding water in a lake or on a stream. Meandered water is a lake or stream which is located on acreage for which the landowner pays taxes on the land only - - - commonly called government lots. The original government survey of the county is located in the courthouse and includes the location acreage and lot number of each tract of land. Back to grant land, wasn't most of that given for military service? And then, I believe the amount given varied with the soldier's rank? Regards, Clara in NE

I believe that after the Rev. War some states began surveying blocks of land and called them "townships". Several settlers could claim land within the township. If I remember correctly, the townships were square and each contained a specific number of acres or square miles of land. Nothing like a town was involved, but it was probably assumed that a small village or town would develop in that settlement. In the mountains of western NC the census was taken and listed as living within townships. One of these was Harrell Township on Big Rock Creek in Mitchell co. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

Catherine - about finding Monroe Township in Muskingum County, Ohio - try this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohmuski2/ Your question about "what does "township" actually indicate?" ---- Undoubtedly in this reference township is a civil land division within Muskingum County. It is believable that "Mountzion was granted two farms in two different counties". It happens, still, for a number of quite logical reasons. For instance, land in either township already parceled out; geographical features like rivers, lakes, swamps may limit available arable land; land grantee sometimes requested additional or other land. Hope this helps Good luck in your search Clara in NE

Another Question fron Ron & Cathy [email protected] . This realy don't pertain to VALoudou, or Virginia for that matter, But I don't Know about the "TOWNSHIP" question, and it may help all of us. I know Pennsylvania has Townships and Va doesn't. At any rate maybe we can all learn.. Rena List Adm. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron & Cathy Ellis To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:06 AM Subject: Fouch/Mountzion Watts Rena, Thanks for this info. It coincides somewhat with info I have. Mountzion received two farms in Muskingum Co, OH as a result of serving in the War of 1812...one in Zanesville and one in Monroe Township. I know he moved out to Muskingum Co. but I wasn't sure just where. I will look into this Adams Township. I do have another question. What does "township" actually indicate? I was looking for Monroe, OH in a current road atlas, thinking Township meant "the beginning of a town or city. I found a Monroe in Butler Co, OH a county other than Muskingum. Do you think it was likely that Mountzion was granted two farms in two different counties which weren't even adjacent to one another? Or did "township" imply something else? Thanks for any further help you can find for me. Catherine

Please respond to the submitter! ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron & Cathy Ellis To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:06 AM Subject: Fouch/Mountzion Watts Rena, Thanks for this info. It coincides somewhat with info I have. Mountzion received two farms in Muskingum Co, OH as a result of serving in the War of 1812...one in Zanesville and one in Monroe Township. I know he moved out to Muskingum Co. but I wasn't sure just where. I will look into this Adams Township. I do have another question. What does "township" actually indicate? I was looking for Monroe, OH in a current road atlas, thinking Township meant "the beginning of a town or city. I found a Monroe in Butler Co, OH a county other than Muskingum. Do you think it was likely that Mountzion was granted two farms in two different counties which weren't even adjacent to one another? Or did "township" imply something else? Thanks for any further help you can find for me. Catherine

Dear James, May I ask the name of this book. These are also my Fouch Family. I have a marriage certificate for John Fouch and Margaret Danner in Maryland. My cousin who did Fouch genealogy gave me a little information on Fouch's. I believe I descend from the Amos Fouch line. Many Blessings, Pam D. Anthem, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. A. Holifield" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:20 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Re: Fouch > Blessings Catherine Watts Ellis, > You are in luck; that is if the name you seek was also spelled > "Fouche". > There was a Thomas Fouch(e) that purchased a lovely 18th century home > called "Holyfield" in 1821 I think it was. And low and behold, I am > descended > from the original owner of that property,Valentine Holyfield who obtained > a > Land Grant on March 5, 1729. And originally it was 342 acres, and it now > is > approximately 170 acres which lies about 5.5 miles south of Leesburg,VA on > Gulick Mill Rd. And not only that; the 18th century house that perhaps > dates > back to my ancestor, Valentine Holyfield who lived there from 1729-1746, a > nd where Thomas Fouch(e) lived from about 1821 - 1828 when he died > (going from memory) is still standing and still being lived in! > The current property today of 170 acres has a fair market value of at > least > $8,000,000.00. It is now owned by a 3-man partnership; one of which lived > there > along with is wife from 1977 - 2002. His former wife still lives on this > property, > but is in the process of moving. The former property of our ancestor's to > the west > belongs to a different land developement company and they are in the > process > of building new high end homes on it between "Evergreen Mills Rd." to the > West and > up to the "Hollyfield Farm" property on "Gulick Mills Rd."to the east. > There is a > Donkey Farm located on this propety,which is being relocated due to nearby > delvelopement. > And the website for it which includes pictures is: > http://www.hollyfieldfarm.com/hollyfield_farm_farm_history.htm and a > simple website that > I have for my family history, which has some pictures as well is: > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&ext=1&groupid=189892&ck= > > To the South/Southwest of the 18th century home of our ancestor's is where > Thomas > Fouche's son Amos Fouche lived. There is still a partially burned barn > that has fallen into > disrepair and just to the right of it was a small log cabin that had > gotten overgrown with > trees/shrubery and it was taken down a few weeks ago by the developers,but > the old barn > is still there from the 1820's. It's a beautiful place, except for new > housing going up on each > side after 300 years. Also, your distant relatives gave me the > information to locate this property > with it's 18th century house & it's additions. > Also in a book I have is listed the following: > > In 1758, a John Fouch and Jacob Fouch were extradited to Maryland on Theft > charges (possibly > of a black,Mulatto, or Indian Slave), in which case one would have been > executed by hanging. > > November 13th & 14th, 1759 is listed a record of Prison Guards being paid > for a list of > prisoners; one of which is Jacob Fouch. > > June 12, 1760 - Issac Fouch & his wife Mary Fouch are 1 of 3 couples bring > a complaint of Chancery against another couple who are executors of the > Will of Mary Jennings, deceased. LoudounCounty,VA,-Book A,page-371. > > March 14, 1764 - Alexander Bowling and John Fouch are charged with > "Stealing an Ax the property of Hugh Fouch........and 3 other men", in > which both of the defendants are aquitted and discharged. Loudoun > County - Book B, page-281. > > June 13, 1766 - Isaac Fouch and Mary Fouch are among > a number of people who are suing the Estate of Mary Jennings. > Loudoun County,VA-Book C,page-130. > > September 10, 1766 - Alice Fouch is identified as the wife of Jacob Fouch. > Loudoun County,VA Book C, page 195. > > So I hope this gives you a link and adds to your Family Tree. I could not > find the "Fouche website" that had the reference to Thompson or Thomas > Fouche's family & his children,Thompson,Amos,Mary & Temple Fouche who > lived on Holyfield Farm in the 1820's and later to about 1852. > > Blessings, > James A. Holifield > Pensacola,FL > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rena" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:32 AM > Subject: Fouch > > >>I am looking for information on Nancy Fouch who married my ancestor Monnze >>(Mount Zion) WATTS on 6 Sep 1815 in Loudoun County, VA They were married >>by Minister-John Littlejohn, Methodist. They had two children: Thomas, >>born: 06 Jun 1817 and Mary Anne, born: 19 Apr 1819. Nancy died sometime >>between the birth of Mary Anne and 1830. Mount Zion Watts remarried after >>her death. >> >> Thank you for any information you can glean for me. >> >> Catherine Watts Ellis >> Currently living in >> Christchurch, New Zealand >> [email protected] >> >> Please reply directly to Catherine, as she is not a list member. >> ______________________________ > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us > something about your Brick Wall person. >

Blessings Catherine Watts Ellis, You are in luck; that is if the name you seek was also spelled "Fouche". There was a Thomas Fouch(e) that purchased a lovely 18th century home called "Holyfield" in 1821 I think it was. And low and behold, I am descended from the original owner of that property,Valentine Holyfield who obtained a Land Grant on March 5, 1729. And originally it was 342 acres, and it now is approximately 170 acres which lies about 5.5 miles south of Leesburg,VA on Gulick Mill Rd. And not only that; the 18th century house that perhaps dates back to my ancestor, Valentine Holyfield who lived there from 1729-1746, a nd where Thomas Fouch(e) lived from about 1821 - 1828 when he died (going from memory) is still standing and still being lived in! The current property today of 170 acres has a fair market value of at least $8,000,000.00. It is now owned by a 3-man partnership; one of which lived there along with is wife from 1977 - 2002. His former wife still lives on this property, but is in the process of moving. The former property of our ancestor's to the west belongs to a different land developement company and they are in the process of building new high end homes on it between "Evergreen Mills Rd." to the West and up to the "Hollyfield Farm" property on "Gulick Mills Rd."to the east. There is a Donkey Farm located on this propety,which is being relocated due to nearby delvelopement. And the website for it which includes pictures is: http://www.hollyfieldfarm.com/hollyfield_farm_farm_history.htm and a simple website that I have for my family history, which has some pictures as well is: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&ext=1&groupid=189892&ck= To the South/Southwest of the 18th century home of our ancestor's is where Thomas Fouche's son Amos Fouche lived. There is still a partially burned barn that has fallen into disrepair and just to the right of it was a small log cabin that had gotten overgrown with trees/shrubery and it was taken down a few weeks ago by the developers,but the old barn is still there from the 1820's. It's a beautiful place, except for new housing going up on each side after 300 years. Also, your distant relatives gave me the information to locate this property with it's 18th century house & it's additions. Also in a book I have is listed the following: In 1758, a John Fouch and Jacob Fouch were extradited to Maryland on Theft charges (possibly of a black,Mulatto, or Indian Slave), in which case one would have been executed by hanging. November 13th & 14th, 1759 is listed a record of Prison Guards being paid for a list of prisoners; one of which is Jacob Fouch. June 12, 1760 - Issac Fouch & his wife Mary Fouch are 1 of 3 couples bring a complaint of Chancery against another couple who are executors of the Will of Mary Jennings, deceased. LoudounCounty,VA,-Book A,page-371. March 14, 1764 - Alexander Bowling and John Fouch are charged with "Stealing an Ax the property of Hugh Fouch........and 3 other men", in which both of the defendants are aquitted and discharged. Loudoun County - Book B, page-281. June 13, 1766 - Isaac Fouch and Mary Fouch are among a number of people who are suing the Estate of Mary Jennings. Loudoun County,VA-Book C,page-130. September 10, 1766 - Alice Fouch is identified as the wife of Jacob Fouch. Loudoun County,VA Book C, page 195. So I hope this gives you a link and adds to your Family Tree. I could not find the "Fouche website" that had the reference to Thompson or Thomas Fouche's family & his children,Thompson,Amos,Mary & Temple Fouche who lived on Holyfield Farm in the 1820's and later to about 1852. Blessings, James A. Holifield Pensacola,FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rena" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:32 AM Subject: Fouch >I am looking for information on Nancy Fouch who married my ancestor Monnze >(Mount Zion) WATTS on 6 Sep 1815 in Loudoun County, VA They were married >by Minister-John Littlejohn, Methodist. They had two children: Thomas, >born: 06 Jun 1817 and Mary Anne, born: 19 Apr 1819. Nancy died sometime >between the birth of Mary Anne and 1830. Mount Zion Watts remarried after >her death. > > Thank you for any information you can glean for me. > > Catherine Watts Ellis > Currently living in > Christchurch, New Zealand > [email protected] > > Please reply directly to Catherine, as she is not a list member. > ______________________________

Rena..This was posted elsewhere in 1999 but may be of interest to you now in your FOUCH quest: "In 1824 a grandson wrote that HUGH FOUCH, Loudoun Co., VA, wrote in the family Bible. ..' Our ancestors were French Protestants, who fled from Britannia in France after the revocation of the edict of Nantes by Louis XIV. HUGH was born in America about the year 1696 and departed this life the 29th of Sept,. 1780. He mar. MARY PERKINS, her family resided in Bucks Co., PA. Their first son, ISAAC FOUCH was mar. to MARY McDOWELL, whose parents were from Armagh in Ireland. They were Protestants..'." Their son, THOMAS FOUCH, b. 22 July 1755 (of Loudoun Co., VA), d. 27 July 1828 (mar. SARAH COMBS...see below) had as last child of (7), a NANCY FOUCH, b. 20 July 1800...who might very well be the one you seek, although she would only have been 15 when married, but not unusual, of course,. I also have this note: 08 Jun 1779 Loudoun Co.,VA Marriage Bond. for THOMAS FOUCH & SARAH COMBS. JOHN, father of the girl, test. age. Sec. JOSEPH COOMBS. (Ref: Jewell's "Loudoun Co.,VA Marriage Bonds, 1762-1850", p.11). SARAH COMBS (d/o JOHN & ALICE JOLLY) b. 7 Feb. 1760 d. 8 Aug 1838 in Loudoun Co., VA, was m. to THOMAS FOUCH by Rev. Jos. Powell of the Tonoloways Baptist Church. With further information written by their son he stated that SARAH was the oldest daughter of JOHN & ALICE JOLLY COOMBS, and she was married in Bedford Co.,PA"...by Joseph Powel, Minister of the Gospel. This was of particular interest to me for have a KING/GNAGEY/FOUCH family connection in Somerset Co., PA ...one CATHERINE KING (b.1810) mar.SAMUEL FOUCH (b.1800...mar.date unknown), and Somerset Co.,PA had been part of Bedford Co.PA until 1795. Before state boundaries were set some times they weren't certain to whom they owed allegiance, and wandered freely back and forth between the various jurisdictions. So can't always be sure from what might be given on a later census exactly where some of the early settlers had been born...or were married. This was quite enlightening! Hope this is of some help. Rosalie Lucas Hartinger [email protected]

I am looking for information on Nancy Fouch who married my ancestor Monnze (Mount Zion) WATTS on 6 Sep 1815 in Loudoun County, VA They were married by Minister-John Littlejohn, Methodist. They had two children: Thomas, born: 06 Jun 1817 and Mary Anne, born: 19 Apr 1819. Nancy died sometime between the birth of Mary Anne and 1830. Mount Zion Watts remarried after her death. Thank you for any information you can glean for me. Catherine Watts Ellis Currently living in Christchurch, New Zealand [email protected] Please reply directly to Catherine, as she is not a list member.

I don't know.. I have no info on her lineage. She was born in Loudoun in 1774, had a son, Herod Thomas, by George Thomas who she never married. Id love to have more info if anyone has it. Thanks, Tom Keen > I'm curious if she is related to the Elizabeth Nichols and daughter > Cilla Nichols who were named in the will of Rawleigh Chinn dated 1742. > > Janean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:45 PM > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Charity Nichols - Thomas, Ross, Chamblin etc > > > > > > I was wondering if Charity Nichols is related to the Nichols family > > from Point of Rocks, Md? > > > > Pepper Scotto > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > In a message dated 6/8/2005 6:54:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > One of the list members and I have been corresponding about a > > family bible I have that belonged to Charity Nichols (b1774) > > married to GeorgeThomas, mother of Herod Thomas. > > > > Associated family names are Chamblin, Furr, Ross, Keen > > > > You can see a few photos of the bible and a bit of the contents. > > > > http://www.hillcroftcrescentfarm.com/charitys_bible.htm > > > > I thought maybe some of the other folks on the list might be > > interested. > > > > We are considering donating to the Balsh Library. Sounds like a > > very good place for it to be preserved and enjoyed. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Keen > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > > http://www.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" > Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and > tell us something about your Brick Wall person. >

Chris, There's no explanation on pgs. 16 or 17, but on the previous page #15, the list begins as "Roster of the Company Formerly Commanded by Capt. Samuel Gullick in the 56th Regiment, Loudoun Militia, 2nd Battalion, at present Commanded by Lt. William Russell. Sept. 15th 1794." This is too early for 1812 and too late for the Rev. War. It's a standard roster of county militia men. Man had to appear at muster, with their gear; and this is one of the few lists that names everyone, not just those who were fined. Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS "Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, love and respect your work." John Morris CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Pulver" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:25 AM Subject: Look Up (Militia Journals) > I was wondering if anyone has access to a book entitled "Loudoun County, Va Militia Journals 1793-1829" by Don Blincoe. > > I am looking at pages 16 &17 and am wondering if this is regarding the war of 1812, or does this have to do with the Revolution War? > > I believe the person I am looking at is Francis McKamie who was in the 56th regiment under Capt. James White, Class #9. Just need to confirm I am reading this correctly. > > Thanks for any info. > > Chris > > ______________________________