Teresia, It probably stands for appraisement, meaning the inventory and appraisement of the assets of the estate. These typically do not have any genealogical information in them, but sometimes allow tracking of slaves from parent to child. Bob Grant Teresia & Jamil Scott wrote: > I have a question regarding wills. A contact of mine found a listing > for a will on a microfilm index that read: Lewis > Smith............app. 471, Oct 1876 > > Does anyone know what "app" means? > > Teresia F. Scott > Hamilton, VA > > Genealogy, it's a family thing. > Surnames and places: Sanders/Saunders, Smith, Cathcart, Jones, Combs, > Barker, Hawn, Dunlevy, Clegg, Huckleberry, Yeary, Wallace, Russell, > McCarty, Lowe, Legg, American Indian > Places: Indiana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, Ireland > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > To contact Listowner: > Rena Worthen [email protected] >

Someone mentioned land disputes: The Benjamin Rust land was in dispute for years and years. But this land was near Upperville & Paris. (Closer to Upperville) I don't think that would be in the Cameron Parish area. However, parts of it extended into Loudoun Co, VA. He died 21 June 1834. I have this information, thanks to one of the List members. Oddly, these records were found in Frederick Co, VA archives. She so kindly sent the pages to me. Those involved with this controversy, which was not settled until after many of the "principals involved" (Benj's children) were dead: James & Sarah (Nee?) Rust Nancy & Uriah Glasscock Elizabeth & Jonathan Carter Katherine & Lemuel Hutchison Benjamin & Francis (Davis) Rust Sarah & Robert Latham (Sarah dsp) Emma & Stephen Hicks John Singleton Rust was a son; but he died unwed. He died 27 Jan, 1834; shortly before his father's death. Shirley Starks [email protected]

Thanks to one of the "Listers", I have a copy of a Rust family Land suit. This record was found in FREDERICK Co. VA archives. Yet the land was in both Loudoun and Fauquier Counties. (Overlapping) Shirley Starks >I thought that it was interesting that there was this dispute between the >counties and that it took so long to resolve. This may explain a >discrepancy on birth. If you find info that indicates Loudoun, it may >actually be Fairfax. Don't you think? > > Teresia F. Scott > Hamilton, VA >

I thought that it was interesting that there was this dispute between the counties and that it took so long to resolve. This may explain a discrepancy on birth. If you find info that indicates Loudoun, it may actually be Fairfax. Don't you think? Teresia F. Scott Hamilton, VA Genealogy, it's a family thing. Surnames and places: Sanders/Saunders, Smith, Cathcart, Jones, Combs, Barker, Hawn, Dunlevy, Clegg, Huckleberry, Yeary, Wallace, Russell, McCarty, Lowe, Legg, American Indian Places: Indiana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, Ireland On Sep 17, 2005, at 5:02 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > VALOUDOU-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 236 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Land dispute [Teresia & Jamil Scott > <[email protected]] > #2 Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Land dispute ["Janean Ray" > <[email protected]>] > #3 Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Land dispute [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from VALOUDOU-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > > From: Teresia & Jamil Scott <[email protected]> > Date: September 16, 2005 4:13:39 PM EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Land dispute > > > One of the staff members of the Thomas Balch Library located in > Leesburg, VA told me yesterday that there was a tract of land between > Loudoun Co. and Fairfax Co., VA that was in dispute for years. She > said that it was about 8 miles wide and is in the Difficult Run area. > I guess this would have been in the Cameron Perish area. Although I > have lived in Loudoun for almost 18 years, I am new to researching > Loudoun so maybe someone on here knows more about this. > > Teresia F. Scott > Hamilton, VA > > Genealogy, it's a family thing. > Surnames and places: Sanders/Saunders, Smith, Cathcart, Jones, Combs, > Barker, Hawn, Dunlevy, Clegg, Huckleberry, Yeary, Wallace, Russell, > McCarty, Lowe, Legg, American Indian > Places: Indiana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, Ireland > > ______________________________ > > > From: "Janean Ray" <[email protected]> > Date: September 16, 2005 4:51:43 PM EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Land dispute > > > Not sure but hmmm, could it be between Loudoun and Fauquier? That > would > have been the Chinn and Powell land dispute. I believe off Bellhaven > Rd is > where the Carter House is located and was once name Mt. Defiance? Or > was it > Mt. Recovery? Can't recall from memory right this second which one it > was. > I think Mt. Recovery burned. Anyway this was a very well document > court > battle. I am of the Chinn line and have information on it not ready > at hand > this minute. Janean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Teresia & Jamil Scott" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:13 PM > Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Land dispute > > >> One of the staff members of the Thomas Balch Library located in >> Leesburg, VA told me yesterday that there was a tract of land between >> Loudoun Co. and Fairfax Co., VA that was in dispute for years. She >> said that it was about 8 miles wide and is in the Difficult Run area. >> I guess this would have been in the Cameron Perish area. Although I >> have lived in Loudoun for almost 18 years, I am new to researching >> Loudoun so maybe someone on here knows more about this. >> >> Teresia F. Scott >> Hamilton, VA >> >> Genealogy, it's a family thing. >> Surnames and places: Sanders/Saunders, Smith, Cathcart, Jones, Combs, >> Barker, Hawn, Dunlevy, Clegg, Huckleberry, Yeary, Wallace, Russell, >> McCarty, Lowe, Legg, American Indian >> Places: Indiana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, >> Ireland >> >> >> ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== >> Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. >> Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. >> http://www.rootsweb.com >> >> > > ______________________________ > > > From: [email protected] > Date: September 16, 2005 9:04:50 PM EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Land dispute > > > I do not have the actual boundaries of this tract but it includes the > area > that is Pleasant Valley today and includes Cub Run. In colonial times > it was in > Cameron Parish. I believe that it originally was set off in Loudoun > and then > when Washington D C was set as the capitol this expanse of land was > given back > to Fairfax. I am not sure how many times portions of it have gone back > and > forth between the counties but I know that in the 1930's that section > was in > Fairfax and then in the early 50's at least a portion of it was given > back to > Loudoun. The area in dispute was never in Fauquier and I have never > heard of a > land dispute between those 2 counties > My mother grew up and graduated from Herndon High School in 1949 and > yet most > of my entire life it has been considered Loudoun County > Susan > >

I think "dispute" might have been a poor choice of words. When Loudoun was established, (cut off from Fairfax Co) in 1757, the eastern boundary was Difficult Run. This put families who had always lived in Fairfax, and were used to doing business under Fairfax County jurisdiction, under the auspices of Loudoun. After 40 years (who knows what went on) it was decided to move the eastern boundary to Sugarland Run, thereby "returning" a strip of land to Fairfax Co. See Charles Poland, From Frontier to Suburbia, p. 15. There must have been action in both courts for this to happen. If you really want to know, read the court records. Ms. Marty Hiatt, CGRS "Document what you find, listen to what you are told, and especially, love and respect your work." John Morris CGRS is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board.

I do not have the actual boundaries of this tract but it includes the area that is Pleasant Valley today and includes Cub Run. In colonial times it was in Cameron Parish. I believe that it originally was set off in Loudoun and then when Washington D C was set as the capitol this expanse of land was given back to Fairfax. I am not sure how many times portions of it have gone back and forth between the counties but I know that in the 1930's that section was in Fairfax and then in the early 50's at least a portion of it was given back to Loudoun. The area in dispute was never in Fauquier and I have never heard of a land dispute between those 2 counties My mother grew up and graduated from Herndon High School in 1949 and yet most of my entire life it has been considered Loudoun County Susan

Not sure but hmmm, could it be between Loudoun and Fauquier? That would have been the Chinn and Powell land dispute. I believe off Bellhaven Rd is where the Carter House is located and was once name Mt. Defiance? Or was it Mt. Recovery? Can't recall from memory right this second which one it was. I think Mt. Recovery burned. Anyway this was a very well document court battle. I am of the Chinn line and have information on it not ready at hand this minute. Janean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresia & Jamil Scott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Land dispute > One of the staff members of the Thomas Balch Library located in > Leesburg, VA told me yesterday that there was a tract of land between > Loudoun Co. and Fairfax Co., VA that was in dispute for years. She > said that it was about 8 miles wide and is in the Difficult Run area. > I guess this would have been in the Cameron Perish area. Although I > have lived in Loudoun for almost 18 years, I am new to researching > Loudoun so maybe someone on here knows more about this. > > Teresia F. Scott > Hamilton, VA > > Genealogy, it's a family thing. > Surnames and places: Sanders/Saunders, Smith, Cathcart, Jones, Combs, > Barker, Hawn, Dunlevy, Clegg, Huckleberry, Yeary, Wallace, Russell, > McCarty, Lowe, Legg, American Indian > Places: Indiana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, Ireland > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > Join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative. > Rootsweb members & sponsors are who make this list possible. > http://www.rootsweb.com > >

One of the staff members of the Thomas Balch Library located in Leesburg, VA told me yesterday that there was a tract of land between Loudoun Co. and Fairfax Co., VA that was in dispute for years. She said that it was about 8 miles wide and is in the Difficult Run area. I guess this would have been in the Cameron Perish area. Although I have lived in Loudoun for almost 18 years, I am new to researching Loudoun so maybe someone on here knows more about this. Teresia F. Scott Hamilton, VA Genealogy, it's a family thing. Surnames and places: Sanders/Saunders, Smith, Cathcart, Jones, Combs, Barker, Hawn, Dunlevy, Clegg, Huckleberry, Yeary, Wallace, Russell, McCarty, Lowe, Legg, American Indian Places: Indiana, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, Ireland

Hey, I actually found the recent exchange quite entertaining! But I suppose the list Mom is right. Enough comic relief--lets get back to genealogy. Linda in Michigan On Sep 15, 2005, at 1:54 AM, Rena wrote: > 1.For your information, I have no control over what goes in to the > archives. ONLY you control this by being careful what you say to > others. ONCE said, it can't be taken back or deleted by me. > > 2. If the few members on this list, who are trying to ruin a good list > for the rest of us, continues to "bicker", I will put this list on > moderated/restricted posting, meaning, I will read each post, and post > as I see fit, as I have time. DO we realy want this? > > 3. I have been your hostess for many years now, and Hope to continue > to serve as List ADM for a long time to come. AS most of you know, I > do work a full time Job, this is a volunteer thing I do because of my > love of GENEALOGY. IF any of you have a problem with the postings > please contact me, rather than add to the "FLAME WAR". > > 4. Now lets get back on "TARGET" and move forward. > > Rena Worthen [email protected] > LIST ADM > > WHO, WHEN, and WHERE are the three essential ingredients for successful > genealogical research! > Genealogy without documentation is MYTHOLOGY > Founder and President > Craig - Botetourt Genealogy Club > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll > Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell > us something about your Brick Wall person. > > > > Kind Regards, Linda Linda Stokebury Brennan, Partner Tria Design & Marketing, LLC 517-886-9708 • fax 517-886-9719 [email protected] www.triadesignfirm.com

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Hi Gail, Don't be too shocked at pifox, she has been rude to others including me. Her info is questionable also. Sandra

Thank you for getting things refocused. These "spats" are like car crashes, I know they don't concern me but I can't help but look. I am still looking for proof that my gg-grandfather, Thomas Newman GIBBS, and his father, John Harris GIBBS, were born in Loudoun Co., VA.. Here is what I am hoping to find a source for it. Thomas N. GIBBS, b. 4 May, 1802, Loudoun, VA s/o John Harris GIBBS, b. 15 Mar 1775, Loudoun, VA J. H. GIBBS married Nancy E. SORRELL on 2 Feb 1799 Any help appreciated. Jane

1.For your information, I have no control over what goes in to the archives. ONLY you control this by being careful what you say to others. ONCE said, it can't be taken back or deleted by me. 2. If the few members on this list, who are trying to ruin a good list for the rest of us, continues to "bicker", I will put this list on moderated/restricted posting, meaning, I will read each post, and post as I see fit, as I have time. DO we realy want this? 3. I have been your hostess for many years now, and Hope to continue to serve as List ADM for a long time to come. AS most of you know, I do work a full time Job, this is a volunteer thing I do because of my love of GENEALOGY. IF any of you have a problem with the postings please contact me, rather than add to the "FLAME WAR". 4. Now lets get back on "TARGET" and move forward. Rena Worthen [email protected] LIST ADM WHO, WHEN, and WHERE are the three essential ingredients for successful genealogical research! Genealogy without documentation is MYTHOLOGY Founder and President Craig - Botetourt Genealogy Club

Je-zuss!!! Would everyone kindly take about 40 mg of Valium and sleep it off??? Researching: SAWYER/HALSTEAD/GRIFFIN/HOWELL/WILKES and ABRAMS/POWELL/BLEDSOE/HOLMES/HILL Certified Virally CLEAN using "Norton's Internet Security 2005

I may have a broken arm, but I can READ. I will not tolerate this. Rena Worthen [email protected] LIST ADM. WHO, WHEN, and WHERE are the three essential ingredients for successful genealogical research! Genealogy without documentation is MYTHOLOGY Founder and President Craig - Botetourt Genealogy Club

Bent out of shape girl....you must be the only one who has pottied in her chili. Get a life, we will help by not bothering you. Regards, Erik P Conard (dummy PhD) of Denver

OK, Deborah Lynne Fox, we wont let anyone know you live in the Shenandoah Valley and have a bunch of real crappy webpages online....----- Original Message ----- From: "pifox" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [VALOUDOU-L] Re: VALOUDOU-D Digest V05 #233 > for all the smart alecks that cant read between tthe lines, it so happens i dont want my name and address given out because i have 2 abusive ex's that would just love to know where i am..... > also i have 4 family lines 2 my biological 2 my adoptve so what else is it that you dont understand my not wanting to go into such long explainations of how i connect to any families i listed and of why i am staying private???? > > im not digging into anyones personnal lives that are living ,you all shouldnt be either.. > > you are a ignorant bunch. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:50 PM > Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Re: VALOUDOU-D Digest V05 #233 > > > I find it interesting that a very private person would enjoy snooping around > in the history of others. Is this what one might call a dichotomy? > Edie Eader-Hawbottom Johnson Family Cemetery > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > Have you posted your Loudoun Co. surnames lately? > New members are joining our mailing list every day. > Be sure to periodically remind us of your Loudoun research interests. > > > ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== > The First Sunday in each month will set aside for a "Brick Wall" Roll Call. Please always put the surname you seek in the subject and tell us something about your Brick Wall person. > >

for all the smart alecks that cant read between tthe lines, it so happens i dont want my name and address given out because i have 2 abusive ex's that would just love to know where i am..... also i have 4 family lines 2 my biological 2 my adoptve so what else is it that you dont understand my not wanting to go into such long explainations of how i connect to any families i listed and of why i am staying private???? im not digging into anyones personnal lives that are living ,you all shouldnt be either.. you are a ignorant bunch. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:50 PM Subject: [VALOUDOU-L] Re: VALOUDOU-D Digest V05 #233 I find it interesting that a very private person would enjoy snooping around in the history of others. Is this what one might call a dichotomy? Edie Eader-Hawbottom Johnson Family Cemetery ==== VALOUDOU Mailing List ==== Have you posted your Loudoun Co. surnames lately? New members are joining our mailing list every day. Be sure to periodically remind us of your Loudoun research interests.

I find it interesting that a very private person would enjoy snooping around in the history of others. Is this what one might call a dichotomy? Edie Eader-Hawbottom Johnson Family Cemetery