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    1. Re: [VALEE] How to buy reprints?
    2. Ed Cress
    3. Cost of the reprinted Early Settlers books, and date of publication will be posted on this site at a later date. Ed --- Edgar A. Cress Corresponding Secretary Lee County Historical & Gen. Society On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:40:58 G1074UK wrote: >I must've missed it, when will the books be reprinted and how may I obtain >the set?? I know there are errors in the books as well, however, they have >helped me tremendously and those of us who are dedicated to geneology have a >tendency to double check things anyway, don't we? > >Thanks, > >Robbin Brown > > >==== VALEE Mailing List ==== >To post messages to the Lee County, VA discussion list, send them to VALEE-L@rootsweb.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > _______________________________________________________ WIN a first class trip to Hawaii. Live like the King of Rock and Roll on the big Island. Enter Now! http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail/http://www.elvis.lycos.com/sweepstakes

    06/13/2002 04:22:49
    1. Re: [VALEE] VALEE reprinting volumns
    2. I think it would be great if one of you web techies out there were to create a web site where all could post their corrections to both the Early Settlers and the Bicentennial books. However, any corrections would be no good unless sources were listed which would prove why the correction needed to be made in the first place. I have found errors on my Martin line in the Bicentennial book that I hate to see duplicated. Most of us who are experienced know to follow up on material like this with other sources but there are those that don't do that and, unfortunately, their data turns up on the web somewhere to continue misleading others like themselves. I've never created a web page as that is not of a lot of interest to me but I know there has to be someone out there who loves that sort of thing. I think it would be a great starting place.....may even become a trend in genealogy as there are so many history books out there with errors [probably all of them to a degree]. Lisa Wallen Logsdon

    06/13/2002 02:59:33
    1. [VALEE] How to buy reprints?
    2. I must've missed it, when will the books be reprinted and how may I obtain the set?? I know there are errors in the books as well, however, they have helped me tremendously and those of us who are dedicated to geneology have a tendency to double check things anyway, don't we? Thanks, Robbin Brown

    06/12/2002 05:40:58
    1. Re: [VALEE] VALEE reprinting volumns
    2. Sunn Jammers
    3. I just started looking into the history of Lee County and my family. After I received the copies of the information from both volumes and learning from this list that some of it was incorrect, I set out on a quest to learn what the truth was. The great - aunts and great - uncles and my family that were left on Wallens Creek and Love Lady Gap in Lee County are the ones who told the stories and gave the information to the authors of the Early Settlers books. So, I for one want a copy of these books. That is my heritage and linkage. Those are the stories and information, whether correct or not, that were passed on by my ancestors. After everyone on this list receives their copy of the volumes, let those that know what corrections can be proven and need to be made post to another site or list. Let us print the corrections from that web site or list so we can add them to the volumes that we have waited so long to get reprinted. Then maybe someone in our generation or the next will take an interest and get the third volume printed with all the proven corrections. Sheryl Young Barnes sunnjammers@alltel.net (you may have to retype sunnjammers@alltel.net in the "TO" box) ----- Original Message ----- From: <lawson@crosslink.net> To: <VALEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [VALEE] VALEE reprinting volumns > Gary Williams wrote: > > > On the subject of reprinting the volumes: >>>... submit what corrections > > they have through the list.<<< > > >>>Just as we have roll calls why not have a subject line that indicates > > corrections and that way we can choose to read it or pass by the > > message.<<< > > Dear List, > The above is a really good idea. We can print out the info that interests us and perhaps someday, someone will compile our > corrections and print a book. In the meanwhile, we will all have a book for our main Lee Co. references. (As a side note, 1977, > the year of Early Settlers' publication, was my divorce year and I could not afford such frivolous items.) > I think you (editorial YOU) will have a looooong wait if you think the books will be rewritten before they are reprinted. Both > authors are dead and the Historical Society has tried for many years to obtain rights from others to reprint the books. Thanks to > someone who has worked hard and who has been successful in getting permission for a reprint. > IF the books were to be rewritten, who do you think would do the correct research? How long would it take to compile the > books? If families send in their own stories, then you will have the same stories that are collected in the Bicentennial History > 1792-1992, proof or no proof, but interesting family stories. I love my BicHistory 1792-1992. > Yes, there are errors in Early Settlers, and there are sections of the books with no errors. The core information is good and > it gives you a starting point for research. I want a set of the books, warts and all. > Cheers to my Lee Co. cousins, > SueBee > > > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/12/2002 03:29:43
    1. Re: [VALEE] VALEE reprinting volumns
    2. Gary Williams wrote: > On the subject of reprinting the volumes: >>>... submit what corrections > they have through the list.<<< > >>>Just as we have roll calls why not have a subject line that indicates > corrections and that way we can choose to read it or pass by the > message.<<< Dear List, The above is a really good idea. We can print out the info that interests us and perhaps someday, someone will compile our corrections and print a book. In the meanwhile, we will all have a book for our main Lee Co. references. (As a side note, 1977, the year of Early Settlers' publication, was my divorce year and I could not afford such frivolous items.) I think you (editorial YOU) will have a looooong wait if you think the books will be rewritten before they are reprinted. Both authors are dead and the Historical Society has tried for many years to obtain rights from others to reprint the books. Thanks to someone who has worked hard and who has been successful in getting permission for a reprint. IF the books were to be rewritten, who do you think would do the correct research? How long would it take to compile the books? If families send in their own stories, then you will have the same stories that are collected in the Bicentennial History 1792-1992, proof or no proof, but interesting family stories. I love my BicHistory 1792-1992. Yes, there are errors in Early Settlers, and there are sections of the books with no errors. The core information is good and it gives you a starting point for research. I want a set of the books, warts and all. Cheers to my Lee Co. cousins, SueBee

    06/12/2002 03:12:53
    1. [VALEE] VALEE reprinting volumns
    2. Gary Williams
    3. On the subject of reprinting the volumes: since the most expedient and inexpensive way to get them done is to leave them as is - why not have everyone who purchases them or already has them submit what corrections they have through the list. There seems to be a number of people interested on this list who want to help others and place their information on willingly, this could be a very helpful way to put the new found information and sources on the internet and in the archives for future researchers. And cheaper! This will allow you to put it in your data base or print it out and place in your own files. Just as we have roll calls why not have a subject line that indicates corrections and that way we can choose to read it or pass by the message. i.e.. VALEE Correction Volume I - Williams or VALEE Correction Volume II - Campbell. Maybe our coordinator, Colleen could help us with this! Joan Williams

    06/12/2002 09:59:43
    1. Re: [VALEE] To correct or not to correct the Early Settlers
    2. rehuff
    3. The HUFFS printed in the Early Settlers Book are proven to be incorrect. How could this correction be made? Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEN-PICS" <genpics@iopener.net> To: <VALEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:41 PM Subject: [VALEE] To correct or not to correct the Early Settlers > I agree with you about the data needing to be corrected. However, as a person who has published a book with Gateway Press I can tell you it is a monumental task. Unless some one person comes forward and will rewrite the book it won't ever be changed. And, you would have to pay them as this would not be an easy task. > > I have personally written to several well-known publishers about the incorrect and inaccurate books that they are reprinting in the 21st century. Those of us from the last century know which ones they are. Some were even used by lineage societies as references back then. The indirect relpy was money. They said the genealogy people would sift through and decipher the mistakes this century like they did last century. > > Well, I hate to disagree with them, but the advent of the computer has changed all of that. When those books are put online the same thing happens. People have told me I must be crazy because if those books were as wrong as I claimed, then they wouldn't put them online. > E > > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the Lee County, VA discussion list, send them to VALEE-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/12/2002 04:29:39
    1. Re: [VALEE] Rowland Denham
    2. Billy Denham
    3. Thanks Sandie, I appreciate you taking the time to look. Billy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sandiegibson@aol.com> To: <VALEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 2:02 AM Subject: [VALEE] Rowland Denham > I'm sorry to say that I didn't find the name Denham in any of my Rowland > Records, but that certainly doesn't mean that there weren't any. I'll keep a > look out for you. Good Luck! > Sandie > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the Lee County, VA discussion list, send them to VALEE-L@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    06/11/2002 04:54:47
    1. [VALEE] Re: VALEE-D Digest V02 #128
    2. Liz King-Jones
    3. Errors or not, I am glad they are being reprinted. I have copies of the originals and my pages are beginning to yellow from age and the bindings are loose. I have been considering having them rebound. I hope it is possible to have these new books indexed. There is so much information scattered in these two volumes that is hard to find. Names are mentioned at random and you almost have to read all of both volumes and have a photographic memory. Even though I already have the original, I would be interested in purchasing the new ones also. Liz King-Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: <VALEE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <VALEE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: VALEE-D Digest V02 #128

    06/11/2002 04:39:50
    1. Re: [VALEE] RE:Early Settlers of Lee County Books
    2. Talking about the books, I think it should be left up to the person who is paying for them to be redone or not. A good book that has correct info is well worth the price you pay. But never take that Info as the real thing always double check you information or let the person statements in the book state that this has not been certified or verified info. I have several books that are well written but some have errors that may never be corrected in a book but always state that the material isn't certified. Shirley

    06/11/2002 03:58:21
    1. Re: [VALEE] Errors in Early Settlers books
    2. Gary Williams
    3. We all know there are mistakes in the various genealogy books, but does it mean we have to continue with these mistakes? Many researchers have put hours in finding and refining the information. Why should we keep passing along incorrect information? I think it would be a good idea, if possible, to have people send to the person preparing to reprint the book, corrected information and have an addendum at the back of the book showing what present day researchers have found. I guess the biggest draw back would be the time it would take to get all of this printed. Maybe a supplement could be printed at a later date with the new findings. Joan Williams > As Jack Barron says, there are errors in these books. Even with the errors, both are a great source for genealogists. I don't know of any genealogy book that does not include errors of one sort or another. > > However, everyone needs a starting point on tracing their family history. It is up to each of us to prove a statement, not take it for gospel as truth since it if printed. Look at all the errors in census records, for example. But, over several decades, a person can pretty well identify 'his or her family members' by using a little common sense. > > As an example of errors in Early Settlers, David A. Martin's family listed Thomas Martin as age 9 [ ref - 1860 census]. If that fact had been true, it eliminated this Thomas Martin as ancestor of my husband. However, the 1850 census showed Thomas M. Martin as age 2. The 1870 census showed the Martins & Yearys were neighbors. [Tom & Emily Yeary married & divorced. No marriage record was found, but the divorce papers are filed in Lee County Court. The authors of Early Settlers used the 1860 census as a record of persons in the area, and did the best they could with what they had. Even the Bicentennial History has errors, but I 'wouldn't give' for any of these books as a reference to the older generations. > > Now, can you imagine what a current printing of Lee County history would be like??? So many are working on their surnames, and have access to so many records, it would take over 10 volumes to cover the surnames listed in the earlier books!! > > Jeanette in Oklahoma > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email at <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    06/11/2002 03:17:03
    1. Re: [VALEE] copy of recent wills?
    2. Marian Dunlap
    3. Does the Probate office in Lee Co still have original wills dated in the late 1800's--for instance one in 1885? If not, where would copy of the original be available? I have a copy of the will as written in the Probate book. Marian

    06/11/2002 03:07:11
    1. [VALEE] RE:Early Settlers of Lee County Books
    2. Carline Agee
    3. Yes, some of the information on my Tritt family is incorrect, too. We are NOT descended from Hans Peter Tritt of Pennsylvania and my third great grandfather's name was NOT Peter. It is frustrating to know that incorrect information on our ancestors will continue to be passed along but I don't see how these two books could possibly be updated. There are enough errors on many families that they would almost have to be rewritten. There are also errors in the Bicentennial History book and the three volumes of Lee County Cemeteries as well. Unfortunately, many people do think that just because it is published in a book, it is accurate. Most of us know better and I guess we just have to keep reminding people that ALL information needs to be verified, regardless of where we find it. However, the Early Settlers books are still a valuable resource and I'm so glad to finally have the opportunity to purchase the set. Carline :) God Bless America cagee@ntown.net

    06/11/2002 02:59:35
    1. Re: [VALEE] Errors in Early Settlers books
    2. Marian Dunlap
    3. When the two ladies who compiled "The 'Connection' in East Tennessee" published their book a good many years ago they began to get information back about additional descendants and corrected information. They did a reprint with an addendum, leaving the original index, but then adding a separate index for the new part. That way it is all in the same book. Seems to me reprinting the original with no attempt to give newer information and then printing a separate volume with corrected information would mean that too many people would never see the second volume with the corrections. We all know that we have access to better research material today than was available a good many years ago. Here I am giving you advice, and I don't have any idea whether my Edmond PACE is included! Marian

    06/11/2002 02:56:26
    1. [VALEE] To correct or not to correct the Early Settlers
    2. GEN-PICS
    3. I agree with you about the data needing to be corrected. However, as a person who has published a book with Gateway Press I can tell you it is a monumental task. Unless some one person comes forward and will rewrite the book it won't ever be changed. And, you would have to pay them as this would not be an easy task. I have personally written to several well-known publishers about the incorrect and inaccurate books that they are reprinting in the 21st century. Those of us from the last century know which ones they are. Some were even used by lineage societies as references back then. The indirect relpy was money. They said the genealogy people would sift through and decipher the mistakes this century like they did last century. Well, I hate to disagree with them, but the advent of the computer has changed all of that. When those books are put online the same thing happens. People have told me I must be crazy because if those books were as wrong as I claimed, then they wouldn't put them online. E

    06/11/2002 01:41:50
    1. Re: [VALEE] "Early Settlers of Lee County" p. 491
    2. Jim Snodgrass
    3. Jack, That material is an excellent piece of work and you certainly convinced me with your evidence. I doubt however if a rewrite of the book could be done as there would be a lot to do. Most of us however would like the book, with all its mistakes, as it does provide a basis of beginning to research a line. I have the same concern with my family name as it was correct until 1796 but then traced the famiy line incorrectly to a well researched line instead of the rightful ones. Once stated it is difficult to correct. However could some local group, after asking for what you have requested, agree to collect the new material to make corrections in the book. In my copy for example I would love to have the print out of your letter to add to the book. By doing this it would give everyone a chance for all to supply the corrective material which could be printed out and added as corrections. Thanks for the idea and I hope something can be done in an organized manner. Jim Snodgrass Knoxville, Tn.

    06/11/2002 09:47:22
    1. [VALEE] Errors in Early Settlers books
    2. Fred Martin Jr
    3. As Jack Barron says, there are errors in these books. Even with the errors, both are a great source for genealogists. I don't know of any genealogy book that does not include errors of one sort or another. However, everyone needs a starting point on tracing their family history. It is up to each of us to prove a statement, not take it for gospel as truth since it if printed. Look at all the errors in census records, for example. But, over several decades, a person can pretty well identify 'his or her family members' by using a little common sense. As an example of errors in Early Settlers, David A. Martin's family listed Thomas Martin as age 9 [ ref - 1860 census]. If that fact had been true, it eliminated this Thomas Martin as ancestor of my husband. However, the 1850 census showed Thomas M. Martin as age 2. The 1870 census showed the Martins & Yearys were neighbors. [Tom & Emily Yeary married & divorced. No marriage record was found, but the divorce papers are filed in Lee County Court. The authors of Early Settlers used the 1860 census as a record of persons in the area, and did the best they could with what they had. Even the Bicentennial History has errors, but I 'wouldn't give' for any of these books as a reference to the older generations. Now, can you imagine what a current printing of Lee County history would be like??? So many are working on their surnames, and have access to so many records, it would take over 10 volumes to cover the surnames listed in the earlier books!! Jeanette in Oklahoma

    06/11/2002 09:00:41
    1. [VALEE] "Early Settlers of Lee County" p. 491
    2. Jack Barron
    3. In the publication listed below there have been many genealogists who have been misinformed, in my opinion, by information published in "Early Settlers." Unfortunately many genealogists follow the rule "if it is printed in a book it is true." There are no sources given in the Southern information that allow verification of claims to the parent of Jesse Southern. This information is about to be republished and I have been unable to contact the Author or Publisher to ask that they reexamine their information. Suggestions as how to accomplish this will be appreciated since I feel this information should be considered, and or the author should make the sources of her information available in the publication. This is certainly not an attempt to be critical of the publication as there is much good information in it but the source of information, in genealogy, is the glue that cements families together. William Southern, Sr. of Mecklenburg Co., Va. Additional information to Early Settlers of Lee County, Virginia by Hattie Byrd Muncy Bale page 491 Southern & William Southern. Hattie lists William Southern II of Stokes and Surrey Counties, North Carolina as the parent of Jesse Southern of Lee County, Virginia. Recently I found information that I think should be considered for this line. The information below in the Tax Lists and Dower rights of Deeds of Mecklenburg Indicate that Jesse is actually the son of William Southern, Sr and Furner Southern of Mecklenburg County, Virginia." Early Settlers" state that William Southern II came to Lee County where he died after 1827. In 1833 William Southern II is in Stokes County, North Carolina where he files for a Revolutionary Pension Application. In this Application he makes the statement he lives in the same neighbor hood where he has lived ever since the Revolution. This seems to deny that he ever lived in Wythe Counties (1810 Census) Virginia or Lee where he is listed in 1820 and 1830. In 1830 William Southern II is listed in Stokes County, NC at the same time William Southern, Sr., whom I believe to be the father of Jesse and husband of Furner Southern, is listed in Lee County Census. This same William Southern is listed on the Lee County Tax Lists thru 1833. William Southern, Sr. and wife Furner Southern of Mecklenburg County, Virginia are listed in the Personal (Poll) taxes as the parents of Jesse Southern; John Southern; Robert Southern; Buckner Southern; William Southern, Jr. These same named men appear later in Wythe, Lee and Claiborne Counties. All of these children are named in the Poll Tax List of Mecklenburg County as the son's of William Southern, Sr. by name. Example: in 1787 William Southern, Sr. pays two Polls, one for self and one "John, his son, abt. 16 under 21". In 1791 William pays two Polls, one for self and one for "Robert Southern his son age 16". In 1792 William pays two Polls, one for self one for "his son William age 16. In 1795 William pays three Polls, one for self and one for "his son William Southern and one for his son Buckner Southern." Robert Southern is listed separately. In 1797 William, Sr is listed with two Polls one for self and one for "Jesse Southern, his son age 16" William, Sr. and his sons continue to be listed in the Mecklenburg County Tax Lists until 1800. From that point they are never listed and I assume they moved to another County (Wythe 1810). William, Jr continues to be listed until 1814 and disappears from the list. John leaves the list in 1802. 1800 is when Robert Southern, Sr. marries Nancy Neal in Granger County, TN. In the 1810 Census of Wythe County, Virginia three Southern men are listed: Jesse Southern, 26 to 45 with four females under ten years of age and a female 26 to 45 years. William Southern, age over 45 years; two sons under ten, one 16 to 26 (Evidently James who was born 1786 and lived in Hancock County, TN ca 1851) Females, three 16 to 26, one 26 to 45 and evidently William's wife, Furner age over 45. John Southern, age over 45 with two males under 10, females, one 10 to 16; one 16 to 26; and one 26 to 45. In 1830 Lee County Jesse Southern is listed as 50 to 60 years, one male 5 to 10, and one 15 to 20. Females are one 10 to 15 and one 50 to 60. James Southern is listed as being 30 to 40 years one male, under 5, one 5 to 10, one 10 to 15. Females, one under 5, one 5 to 10, one 15 to 20, and one 20 to 30. This would not be the same James Southern as listed in the 1820 Census of Lee Co. Also in 1830 census of Lee, William Southern, age 70 to 80, born 1750 to 1760, undoubtedly William Southern, Senior. William was listed in the 1827 Court minutes as being excused from paying County Levy. In the above census he is listed with one male 10 to 15 and one female 80 to 90. The Lee County Personal (poll) taxes shed additional light on the family. >From 1795 to 1811 there are no Southern men listed in Lee County. In 1812 Jesse Southern is listed with one poll, same in 1813. The 1814 Tax List is for Land only and the 1815 thru 1826 are missing. In 1827 William, Jesse and James are all listed with one poll each. This holds true thro 1831 but another William being listed, evidently the younger William appearing on the 1830 Census. In 1832 a young Robert Southern appears on the Tax list along with Ahart Southern, son of Jesse. In 1833 there is a listing of William Southern, Sr. and William Junior. William Sr. was not charged a Tax. Could this be a repeat of the 1827 Court action where he was excused from paying taxes? William Sr. never appears on another Tax list after this year. William, Jr. is evidently the younger William on the 1830 census. When William Southern, Sr, of Mecklenburg County, Virginia sold his land in Mecklenburg County (Deed Book 7:372; 8:41; 8:42; 8:32) his wife releases her Dower Rights and in each case her name is clearly written "FURNER SOUTHERN, wife of William". Hers is a very unusual given name and it is very understandable that some researchers have picked up the name of the mother of Jesse Southern as a surname TURNER. In the Death Register of Lee Co., in all cases, only the given name of the mother is used, never her maiden name. As further evidence that the name of Jesse's mother is Furner is the publication by Mark Treadway, of 1997, "Lee County, Virginia Death Records 1793-1844" by Mark Treadway on page 57 of that publication he lists the entry for Jesse Southern as follows: "Jessee Southern, parents Wm & Furner Southern, date of death 2 Aug. 1860, died Lee County, born in Rockingham, Virginia died of old age 84 years 2 mos, informant Marcella Burton"(daughter of Jesse). At the same time that William Southern of Lee County, Virginia is appearing on the 1830 Census of the County, William Southern II is listed in the Stokes County Census. In 1833 when William Southern of Lee County, Virginia is listed on the County Tax Lists, a William Southern of Stokes/Surry counties is filing his Revolution War Pension Application. William Southern II (Jr.) settles the question as to the possibility that he ever lived in Lee/Wythe County by his statement on Page 3 of this Pension Application. He makes the following statements: 1st that he was born in Buckingham County in Virginia in the year 1758 or 59. 2nd that he has no record of is age only [traditionary?] information. 3rd, 4th, & 5th " that he lived in Surry County N.Carolina when he entered each Tour of Duty, the first as a volunteer & the two last as a drafted private each time; that he knew & served with all the officers named in the foregoing, that he now resides in the same neighborhood (which from the division of Surry is now Stokes County) where he resided ever since the Revolutionary War". By this statement he takes away any possibility that he ever lived in Lee County, Virginia and could therefore not be the William Southern who was the father of Jesse, of Lee or Robert Southern, of Claiborne County, Tennessee. JB

    06/11/2002 07:57:27
    1. [VALEE] Rowland Denham
    2. I'm sorry to say that I didn't find the name Denham in any of my Rowland Records, but that certainly doesn't mean that there weren't any. I'll keep a look out for you. Good Luck! Sandie

    06/10/2002 08:02:49
    1. Re: [VALEE] ROWLAND
    2. Billy Denham
    3. Hi List, I have been reading with interest about the ROWLAND family. My g-g-grandfather Rowland Denham was born in 1813 in either Claiborne Co., TN or Lee Co., VA. Family records are divided on that fact. I have always wondered about his given name "Rowland". There is no one else in our family, before or since, with that name. I wondered if the name "Rowland" might be the maiden name of his mother or grandmother. Is there any Rowlands out there that have marriage connections to any DENHAMs. Thanks, Billy Denham ----- Original Message ----- From: Phyllis <panders@seidata.com> To: <VALEE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [VALEE] ROWLAND > Sandie > I have been tryin to find the same thing. > Here is some that i have been able to put together on him > According to the 1860 Census he was born in Henry Co. Va. he is 62 in 1860 > The 1850 Census has him age 53 > so he is born between 1797and 1798 in Henry Co. Va. > Lee County i believe was part of Henry at that time. > in 1810 Tax list Michael Rowland was in Lee Co. > in 1820 Michael Rowland and George Rowland were in Lee Co. Va. each of these men has a > son > between the age of 16/26 yrs old. > I have leaned to Michael because in the Census for 1850 the oldest son of Peter H. > Rowland was named Michael. But there is one thing that keeps throwing me off here . I > have not been able to find who the male child between the age of 5/10 in the 1830 Census > this would put him born between 1820/25 and Michael according to all the Census was not born > until 1835/36 > So This son could have been named George. > The Will listed in Lee County for Michael and Elizabeth only give there daughters name > The other thing that draws me to Michael and Elizabeth is the way they named there > children > first born son if Michael is the first is Michael first born daughter Elizabeth > Second born son Daniel second born daughter Abigail > this is what also draws me to Nancy Littrell as the daughter of Daniel and Abigail > Littrell > There is also some confusion on my behalf on who has the Hasten name . > Peter H. Rowland is the middle name Hasten as it follows down the family or Haskell as > my gr gr grandmoather Mary Rowland daughter of Peter named her son. Or is the Hasten name > the middle name of Nancy as i have seen on some family charts. > I believe when i checked the Marriage of Michael Rowland in Henry Co. Ellizabeth was a > Hairston not sure right now but the Peter name came in there somewhere either her father > or grandfather can't put my finger on it right now. Michael and Ellizabeth married in Henry > Co. Va. in 1778 > The only two other marriages in Henry before the birth of Peter H. Rowland were Baldwin > Rowland md Sarah Hairston 1782 and John Rowland md Enes Sturgeon in 1778 but if my > memory serves me right John had no children and his will mentions brothers and nephews in > it . listed as a brother was a Michael Rowland also Michael Rowland was listed as a > nephew . will have to look at that again . > Anyway lets hope we can make some sense of this someway . > phyllis > > > Sandiegibson@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello: > > Is there anyone else on this list that are researching the Peter H. ROWLAND > > family? No one seem to know any of his siblings names or who his parents > > were. I think that an aunt once told my brother that they were from England > > and that they first were in PA, then Lee County, VA , and then the family > > ended up in Claiborne County, TN. Would love to hear from another researcher > > that might be able to enlighten me. Thank you so much! > > Sandie > > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email at <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the list send your message to <VALEE-L-request@rootsweb.com> for individual list messages; <VALEE-D-request@rootsweb.com> for digest messages. Then put the word unsubscribe in the subject line and send your message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

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