That is an interesting tidbit of information you have passed on about marriage licenses. I had never heard that before. I know that very often you find a license issued and it shows "no return". I never was sure whether the preacher just didn't get to the court house with his record, or what happened. There are several early marriages listed under licenses in Blount Co TN that all say "no return. In those cases I have the theory that these couples had been married by a minister some time previously, but then when the county was formed and started their records some of these people took out a license thinking that they then had it legally recorded. In some cases there were children who appeared to be older than the date the license was issued. Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [VALEE] REBECCA WILLIS > Listers, > > I don't know how many of you know this fact, but in the 1800's & > early 1900's the woman was not required to be present when a marriage liscense was > issued. The parents listed for her cannot be relied upon because the man may > not have known who they were or if she had a step-mother or two or three. In > other words any man could go in and order a marriage liscense if he thought > the lady would be willing to marry him. Sometimes you will see where a > liscense was issued but not completed. > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Listers, I don't know how many of you know this fact, but in the 1800's & early 1900's the woman was not required to be present when a marriage liscense was issued. The parents listed for her cannot be relied upon because the man may not have known who they were or if she had a step-mother or two or three. In other words any man could go in and order a marriage liscense if he thought the lady would be willing to marry him. Sometimes you will see where a liscense was issued but not completed.

If you don't mind me jumping in........the marriages that I have seen on my family that have "no return" on them was when they did not follow through with the marriage after posting bond, so after time had elapsed they had to re post bond....at least that what happened with them. phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Dunlap" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [VALEE] REBECCA WILLIS > That is an interesting tidbit of information you have passed on about > marriage licenses. I had never heard that before. I know that very often > you find a license issued and it shows "no return". I never was sure > whether the preacher just didn't get to the court house with his record, > or > what happened. There are several early marriages listed under licenses in > Blount Co TN that all say "no return. In those cases I have the theory > that > these couples had been married by a minister some time previously, but > then > when the county was formed and started their records some of these people > took out a license thinking that they then had it legally recorded. In > some > cases there were children who appeared to be older than the date the > license > was issued. > Marian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [VALEE] REBECCA WILLIS > > >> Listers, >> >> I don't know how many of you know this fact, but in the 1800's & >> early 1900's the woman was not required to be present when a marriage > liscense was >> issued. The parents listed for her cannot be relied upon because the man > may >> not have known who they were or if she had a step-mother or two or three. > In >> other words any man could go in and order a marriage liscense if he > thought >> the lady would be willing to marry him. Sometimes you will see where a >> liscense was issued but not completed. >> >> >> ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== >> Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This > infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Yvonne, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email at > <[email protected]>. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005 > >

Hi List, When I was ill a few months ago I promised someone a copy of an article from my Bicentennial Book. I Lost who asked. I had to reinstall aol and lost most of my saved letters. Who was it ???<G> Milly Piros*Garfield Heights I have been to the end of the Earth. I have been to the end of the Waters. I have been to the end of the Sky. I have been to the end of the Mountains. I have found NONE that are not my Friends. >>>>>Navajo Proverb<<<<<

Hi Norma, How about OWENS...take your time... Milly Piros*Garfield Heights I have been to the end of the Earth. I have been to the end of the Waters. I have been to the end of the Sky. I have been to the end of the Mountains. I have found NONE that are not my Friends. >>>>>Navajo Proverb<<<<<

Norma, Could you tell me if there are any Pennington's or Yeary's mentioned in this scrapbook? Virginia Yeary-Ferguson In a message dated 4/26/2005 9:02:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I am in possession of the scrapbook that was lovingly rescued by a wonderful lady named Patty. The scrapbook has a lot of articles plus many loose clippings that have to be scanned one at a time. I am in the process of scanning all the articles, putting the loose ones in a new scrapbook and indexing both. This will take some time...most likely months. I not only work full-time but I also have many other commitments. When all of the above is done, the scrapbook will donated to the Pennington Gap library. None of my family are in the scrapbook so I have no interest in keeping it but would like to have it available to help other people. In the meantime, I will gladly do look-ups for anyone and send a scan by email. Norma

In a message dated 4/26/2005 10:02:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Norma, your a wonderful and careing person.. Carol in Cumberland, Ky. HC. just over the Mt. from Pennington Gap.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [VALEE] RE:Pennington Gap High school yearbook? > I am in possession of the scrapbook that was lovingly rescued by a wonderful > lady named Patty. > The scrapbook has a lot of articles plus many loose clippings that have to > be scanned one at a time. I am in the process of scanning all the articles, > putting the loose ones in a new scrapbook and indexing both. This will take some > time...most likely months. I not only work full-time but I also have many > other commitments. > When all of the above is done, the scrapbook will donated to the Pennington > Gap library. None of my family are in the scrapbook so I have no interest in > keeping it but would like to have it available to help other people. In the > meantime, I will gladly do look-ups for anyone and send a scan by email. > > Norma > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Yvonne, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email at <[email protected]>. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 4/25/2005 > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx Norma, How old is the scrapbook? I'm looking for Info on the Woods and Noell families. I beleive my Woods line was mostly gone from there by the early 1900's. I'm not sure how long the Noells stayed there yet. Kim

Norma, your a wonderful and careing person.. Carol in Cumberland, Ky. HC. just over the Mt. from Pennington Gap.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [VALEE] RE:Pennington Gap High school yearbook? > I am in possession of the scrapbook that was lovingly rescued by a wonderful > lady named Patty. > The scrapbook has a lot of articles plus many loose clippings that have to > be scanned one at a time. I am in the process of scanning all the articles, > putting the loose ones in a new scrapbook and indexing both. This will take some > time...most likely months. I not only work full-time but I also have many > other commitments. > When all of the above is done, the scrapbook will donated to the Pennington > Gap library. None of my family are in the scrapbook so I have no interest in > keeping it but would like to have it available to help other people. In the > meantime, I will gladly do look-ups for anyone and send a scan by email. > > Norma > > > ==== VALEE Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Yvonne, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email at <[email protected]>. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 4/25/2005 > >

I am in possession of the scrapbook that was lovingly rescued by a wonderful lady named Patty. The scrapbook has a lot of articles plus many loose clippings that have to be scanned one at a time. I am in the process of scanning all the articles, putting the loose ones in a new scrapbook and indexing both. This will take some time...most likely months. I not only work full-time but I also have many other commitments. When all of the above is done, the scrapbook will donated to the Pennington Gap library. None of my family are in the scrapbook so I have no interest in keeping it but would like to have it available to help other people. In the meantime, I will gladly do look-ups for anyone and send a scan by email. Norma

It looks like my first email query didn`t get posted I was asking if anyone has heard anything more about the Pennington gap scrap book that had a lot of info. about WW!! Vets, Pow`s and MIA`s My uncle, Philip David engle is mentioned therein and I would love to have axopy of the articleIt was supposed to be donated to the Library. sorry for the email errors. sue Engle in Al.

I meant to say "scrap book from someone from Pennington Gap Sue

Recently there was a notice that a scrapbook had turned up in Connecticut (?) or some other state I`m not sure where, which contained a lot of newspaper clippings about WWII soldiers, POW`s MIA`s etc/ the book was given to someone in Pennington Gap withthe understanding that it would be "whared" and put in the Library. I wonder if anyone knows if the present owner has "shared" any of the info. yet. My uncle is mentioned and I would very much lke to have the stories. Thanks Sue Engle in Al.

Sharon, I'm not researching Maggard, but in my Davis/Harris line I spot some in marriages. My grandmother, Birdie Jane Davis-Harris has a sister, Aunt Bessie (Nancy Bessie Davis & her husband, Clarence Edward Hodges who's daughter, Gladys Geniva Hodges, mar, Paul David Maggard (b) abt. 1911 (they all lived in Lee Co earlier, but I believe they moved to Harlan Co., KY). You may look there for more Maggard, as they had a son also named David Maggard. Also another Davis kin of Lee Co., VA (1st cousin of my dad, Vivian Harris), Elsie Mae Davis & husband, William Clendenon (b) abt. 1911, who's dau. Shirley Ann Clendenon (mar) Earl Ray Maggard, & had a son Davis Earl Maggard. I don't research them, but that's what I had, in my files. Mary Harris Carey Houston (born in Roda, VA) ..................... In a message dated 4/24/05 8:02:06 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > X-Message: #1 > Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:52:56 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-Id: < > 04242005005[email protected]comcast.net> > Subject: MAGGARDS > > I am searching for any descendants of Frank and Roda MAGGARD. The Wise Co > 1920 Census shows they lived in the Gladeville District. Frank, was b. abt. > 1890 in KY. Roda was b. abt. 1894 in VA. In 1920 they had a son, John, b. > abt. 1911 and a daughter, Hetti, b. abt. 1918. My grandmother, Irene Maggard, > Frank's niece, was living with them in 1920. My grandmother's mother, Nancy > Ann Sturgill Maggard, passed away in 1920 and the children were sent to live > with relatives. I am trying to locate any of their descendants or any of my > gr grandfather, Isaac Patton Maggard. I have been trying to locate pictures > of the Maggards of VA including ones of my grandma, Irene, her father or any > of the aunts, uncles, cousins, ect. My grandma Irene also had five brothers, > Edward, Albert, Vilas M, Willard, and Ernest, who just passed away in Jan. > In 1930 they were all living together in the Yokum Station Disrict of Lee > Co. They were living next door to James and Rosie Sturgill. James! > was supposedly a relative. They had children listed as Arizona, Dexter, > Denver, and Henry. If anyone knows any of them or their descendants and can > pass along the message that I am looking for them, I would greatly appreciate > it. If necessary, I will give my address and phone number via personal email > to pass on. Thank you. > Sharon Flora > > > >

I am searching for any descendants of Frank and Roda MAGGARD. The Wise Co 1920 Census shows they lived in the Gladeville District. Frank, was b. abt. 1890 in KY. Roda was b. abt. 1894 in VA. In 1920 they had a son, John, b. abt. 1911 and a daughter, Hetti, b. abt. 1918. My grandmother, Irene Maggard, Frank's niece, was living with them in 1920. My grandmother's mother, Nancy Ann Sturgill Maggard, passed away in 1920 and the children were sent to live with relatives. I am trying to locate any of their descendants or any of my gr grandfather, Isaac Patton Maggard. I have been trying to locate pictures of the Maggards of VA including ones of my grandma, Irene, her father or any of the aunts, uncles, cousins, ect. My grandma Irene also had five brothers, Edward, Albert, Vilas M, Willard, and Ernest, who just passed away in Jan. In 1930 they were all living together in the Yokum Station Disrict of Lee Co. They were living next door to James and Rosie Sturgill. James! was supposedly a relative. They had children listed as Arizona, Dexter, Denver, and Henry. If anyone knows any of them or their descendants and can pass along the message that I am looking for them, I would greatly appreciate it. If necessary, I will give my address and phone number via personal email to pass on. Thank you. Sharon Flora -- Researcher: Family Surnames of VA, TN, KY: Shuler, Estep, Hall, Lawson, Roberts, Rogers, Wallen, Willis, White, Maggard, Sturgill, Stidham, Boggs, Robinson

Cleland, I had sent a query to someone in Lee Co. They looked but didn't find. Am sending you the response. I looked and didn't find in Scott. Maybe we overlooked and you still might want to personally look. Katherine

Katherine, I couldn't find them in the Marriages. I lQQked in the census 1880 Lee Co. I know you said you have it but.... GIPSON Alfred 48 TN TN TN _______Nancy 37 TN VA TN _______Maggie A 20 TN TN TN _______Eliza J C 14 VA TN TN I would say they married in Tennessee. I could be wrong.. Milly Piros*Garfield Heights I have been to the end of the Earth. I have been to the end of the Waters. I have been to the end of the Sky. I have been to the end of the Mountains. I have found NONE that are not my Friends. >>>>>Navajo Proverb<<<<<

Seeking date of marriage of Alfred Gibson and Nancy ? They are on the 1880 census in Jonesville, Lee County,VA. Specifically looking to see if his parents are listed on the marriage records. I would appreciate any help anyone would be willing to give. Thanks. Katherine

Would anyone have information concerning LIZZIE POWELL, b. 1810? Sorry I have no other data with which to search. Loretta Myrter [email protected]

Searching for any information concerning WALTER POWELL, b. 1819, & HENRIETTA POWELL, b. 1812, parents of MARY, b. 1842. Many thanks for your help. Loretta Myrter [email protected]

Hoping to find information concerning the following family: RICHARD POWELL, b. 1813 MARIA, b. 1810, wife Parents of: WILLIAM H., b. 1833 JAMES M., b. 1834 JACKSON, b. 1837 MARY L., b. 1838 RICHARD A., b. 1840 JOSHUA L., b. 1842 BENJAMINE, b. 1844 MARERA I. or J., b. 1847 LEWIS C. b. 1848 Thank you. Loretta Myrter [email protected]