Betty, I will join the Valdres Samband Lag. So you think maybe Torsten Haughovd is Torsten Nilson? I wonder why I have that other name. Or is Haughovd the name of the farm he was from? I have only been doing genealogy for a year. And I do not know Norwegian, just English and some German and French. It is wonderful to have someone experienced help me with this. I will mail my membership fee to Diane Lerohl before Friday. Are cashier's checks alright? Is there a form to fill out that I should send her? Thank you, Lauren Nelson >From: Betty Rockswold <bettylou@spacestar.net> >Reply-To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com >To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [VALDRES-L] New member >Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 08:38:36 -0500 > >Hei again, Lauren, > >From the microfilm of the church records for East (Østre) Slidre, I find >Torsten Nilson born 5-13-1854 (not 1855), son of Nils Olson Rudi and Gro >Guttormsdtr. This couple also has Kari on 1-25-1850. > >The names you mention of Torsten's children are all American, except for >Nils and Anton. > >Only 4% of land in Norway is tillable. East Slidre is a hilly area and >the farms are very small by American standards. They could be not more >than a few acres, but I don't know about Rudi. Most farms are high up on >the hills, so are subject to frost. Farmers are subsidized by the >government, as they want to keep small farms operating. > >There may be more back in time on Nils and Guro's lines. If you were a >member of the Valdres Samband Lag, my help would be free (I'm the >genealogist for the Lag); only charge would be for a chart I make out >(just what I pay for them), photocopying for our files for future >reference, and postage. > >Please visit our website at www.valdressamband.org to find out more of >what we are about. > >Dues are $10 a year or $27 for three years, payable by check made out to >the Valdres Samband Lag and sent to our secretary, Diane Lerohl at 13500 >Pepperwood Circle, Minnetonka, MN 55305. We also put out our >publication twice a year called "Budstikken", which in the Valdres >dialect, means "message stick" - all about Valdres. > >We'd like to hear from you again! > >Med beste hilsen, > >Betty > >"L NSonata@" wrote: > > > > Hello Betty, > > Yes, I am the other query about Torsten. > > You are so kind to reply. > > I have but only a small amount of information: > > Torsten Haughovd born May 13, 1855 in Valdres, Norway. > > Naturalized in the U. S. as Thomas Nelson Sept. 20, 1910. > > His first son was born in the U. S. in 1876, so records probably exist >from > > 1855 to 1875 or so. I don't know if his wife was born in Norway, her >name > > was Mary Anderson, I do not have a birth date for her. > > I will list the children's names, maybe it will help find Torstens >fathers > > name: > > Otto, Nettie, Anton, Nels, Emma, Johnny, William, Albert, Mabel, Alma, & > > Rhoda. > > The farm in East Slidre could it be the same family? Could you tell me >what > > they grow in Valdres? > > > > Thank you again, > > Lauren Nelson > > > > >From: Betty Rockswold <bettylou@spacestar.net> > > >Reply-To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [VALDRES-L] New member > > >Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 08:22:33 -0500 > > > > > >Hei L. Nelson! > > > > > >I perhaps just answered this, as a footnote to another query. Please > > >tell me more about Torsten - do you know his father's first name? I'm > > >assuming it was Nels. Do you know the month and day Torsten was born >in > > >1855? There is a Haughovd farm in East Slidre, a part of Valdres. > > >Valdres is an area in Oppland "County". > > >Valdres is split into six parts: Vang, East and West Slidre, North and > > >South Aurdal and Etnedal. It's main town is Fagernes. Valdres is >north > > >of Oslo about 70 English miles, and east of Bergen, on the map. > > > > > >I'd love to hear from you. I'm the genealogist for the Valdres Samband > > >Lag. > > > > > >Med beste hilsen, > > > > > >Betty > > > > > >"L NSonata@" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am new to Norwegian genealogy. My great-great grandfather was born > > >Torsten > > > > Haughovd, in Valdres Norway in 1855. He later came to America and >was > > > > naturalized as Thomas Nelson in Ladysmith, WI. > > > > > > > > Is Valdres considered a state, county, or a town? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > L. Nelson > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > > > > VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org > > > > Future Stevne's > > > > June 22-24, 2000 - Kelly Inn - St. Cloud, MN > > > > June 14-16, 2001 - Decorah, IA > > > > June 20-22, 2002 - Oaks Hotel - Sioux Falls, SD > > > > > >-- > > >Betty Rockswold > > >1522 N. Greenwood Ct. > > >Eagan, MN 55122 > > >email: bettylou@spacestar.net > > >web: www.valdressamband.org > > >listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > >==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > > >========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > > >Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > > >June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > > >or JADOLVA@aol.com > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > > ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > > Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > > June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > > or JADOLVA@aol.com > >-- >Betty Rockswold >1522 N. Greenwood Ct. >Eagan, MN 55122 >email: bettylou@spacestar.net >web: www.valdressamband.org >listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com > > >==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== >========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== >Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call >June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions >or JADOLVA@aol.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hei Lauren, Welcome to the Valdres Samband Lag! We hope it will be a long and interesting experience, and that you will learn much about Valdres and your Valdres ancestors. A cashier's check will be fine. I should ask your snail mail address, so I can mail the results of the search to you. Hope you live in the US, as the fee for joining is $15 a year if the address is Canada. There is a form on our website you can print out www.valdressamband.org or I can send you a printed membership form. Or just the check and indication that you want to join, but the secretary will need your snail mail address to send you the current issue of the "Budstikken", our publication. Yes Haughovd is the farm name, essential in finding ancestors in Norway. Everyone had three names, at least. The first was their own; the second was their father's first name with "son" or "datter" added; the third was their farm name - their "address". If they moved to another farm, their "address" changed. The Norwegians had a naming pattern: the first son was named for the father's father; the second son for the mother's father; the first daughter for the father's mother; the second daughter for the mother's mother. After that, they might start "working on" the great grandparents. If a child died, the next child born of the same sex might get the same name as the dead child. If the wife died and the man remarried, the first female child would be named for the dead wife. The same if the husband died. This wasn't always followed closely, but it's a good indication in discoverin the right family. Med beste hilsen (with best wishes), Betty P.S. My complete address is at the bottom of this message (someplace - it's getting long!) "L NSonata@" wrote: > > Betty, > I will join the Valdres Samband Lag. So you think maybe Torsten Haughovd is > Torsten Nilson? I wonder why I have that other name. Or is Haughovd the name > of the farm he was from? I have only been doing genealogy for a year. And I > do not know Norwegian, just English and some German and French. It is > wonderful to have someone experienced help me with this. > I will mail my membership fee to Diane Lerohl before Friday. Are cashier's > checks alright? Is there a form to fill out that I should send her? > > Thank you, > Lauren Nelson > > >From: Betty Rockswold <bettylou@spacestar.net> > >Reply-To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > >To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [VALDRES-L] New member > >Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 08:38:36 -0500 > > > >Hei again, Lauren, > > > >From the microfilm of the church records for East (Østre) Slidre, I find > >Torsten Nilson born 5-13-1854 (not 1855), son of Nils Olson Rudi and Gro > >Guttormsdtr. This couple also has Kari on 1-25-1850. > > > >The names you mention of Torsten's children are all American, except for > >Nils and Anton. > > > >Only 4% of land in Norway is tillable. East Slidre is a hilly area and > >the farms are very small by American standards. They could be not more > >than a few acres, but I don't know about Rudi. Most farms are high up on > >the hills, so are subject to frost. Farmers are subsidized by the > >government, as they want to keep small farms operating. > > > >There may be more back in time on Nils and Guro's lines. If you were a > >member of the Valdres Samband Lag, my help would be free (I'm the > >genealogist for the Lag); only charge would be for a chart I make out > >(just what I pay for them), photocopying for our files for future > >reference, and postage. > > > >Please visit our website at www.valdressamband.org to find out more of > >what we are about. > > > >Dues are $10 a year or $27 for three years, payable by check made out to > >the Valdres Samband Lag and sent to our secretary, Diane Lerohl at 13500 > >Pepperwood Circle, Minnetonka, MN 55305. We also put out our > >publication twice a year called "Budstikken", which in the Valdres > >dialect, means "message stick" - all about Valdres. > > > >We'd like to hear from you again! > > > >Med beste hilsen, > > > >Betty > > > >"L NSonata@" wrote: > > > > > > Hello Betty, > > > Yes, I am the other query about Torsten. > > > You are so kind to reply. > > > I have but only a small amount of information: > > > Torsten Haughovd born May 13, 1855 in Valdres, Norway. > > > Naturalized in the U. S. as Thomas Nelson Sept. 20, 1910. > > > His first son was born in the U. S. in 1876, so records probably exist > >from > > > 1855 to 1875 or so. I don't know if his wife was born in Norway, her > >name > > > was Mary Anderson, I do not have a birth date for her. > > > I will list the children's names, maybe it will help find Torstens > >fathers > > > name: > > > Otto, Nettie, Anton, Nels, Emma, Johnny, William, Albert, Mabel, Alma, & > > > Rhoda. > > > The farm in East Slidre could it be the same family? Could you tell me > >what > > > they grow in Valdres? > > > > > > Thank you again, > > > Lauren Nelson > > > > > > >From: Betty Rockswold <bettylou@spacestar.net> > > > >Reply-To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: [VALDRES-L] New member > > > >Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 08:22:33 -0500 > > > > > > > >Hei L. Nelson! > > > > > > > >I perhaps just answered this, as a footnote to another query. Please > > > >tell me more about Torsten - do you know his father's first name? I'm > > > >assuming it was Nels. Do you know the month and day Torsten was born > >in > > > >1855? There is a Haughovd farm in East Slidre, a part of Valdres. > > > >Valdres is an area in Oppland "County". > > > >Valdres is split into six parts: Vang, East and West Slidre, North and > > > >South Aurdal and Etnedal. It's main town is Fagernes. Valdres is > >north > > > >of Oslo about 70 English miles, and east of Bergen, on the map. > > > > > > > >I'd love to hear from you. I'm the genealogist for the Valdres Samband > > > >Lag. > > > > > > > >Med beste hilsen, > > > > > > > >Betty > > > > > > > >"L NSonata@" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > I am new to Norwegian genealogy. My great-great grandfather was born > > > >Torsten > > > > > Haughovd, in Valdres Norway in 1855. He later came to America and > >was > > > > > naturalized as Thomas Nelson in Ladysmith, WI. > > > > > > > > > > Is Valdres considered a state, county, or a town? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > L. Nelson > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > > > > > VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org > > > > > Future Stevne's > > > > > June 22-24, 2000 - Kelly Inn - St. Cloud, MN > > > > > June 14-16, 2001 - Decorah, IA > > > > > June 20-22, 2002 - Oaks Hotel - Sioux Falls, SD > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Betty Rockswold > > > >1522 N. Greenwood Ct. > > > >Eagan, MN 55122 > > > >email: bettylou@spacestar.net > > > >web: www.valdressamband.org > > > >listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > >==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > > > >========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > > > >Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > > > >June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > > > >or JADOLVA@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > > > ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > > > Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > > > June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > > > or JADOLVA@aol.com > > > >-- > >Betty Rockswold > >1522 N. Greenwood Ct. > >Eagan, MN 55122 > >email: bettylou@spacestar.net > >web: www.valdressamband.org > >listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > >==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > >========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > >Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > >June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > >or JADOLVA@aol.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > or JADOLVA@aol.com -- Betty Rockswold 1522 N. Greenwood Ct. Eagan, MN 55122 email: bettylou@spacestar.net web: www.valdressamband.org listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com