In a message dated 2/17/01 8:26:01 PM Central Standard Time, mjhicks1@juno.com writes: << Referring to the "Lien" farm in Vang, I would like to know if there is a translation or meaning of the word/name "Lien." Someone told me a long time ago that Li means "wooded hillside," and the "a" in "Lia" means "the" wooded hillside or something like that. I would really appreciate it if anyone can tell me whether there is a known translation or meaning of the farm name. And, how did the name originate? (I know the Lien farm was called Septon prior to about 1830.) Some of my relatives have the "Lien" surname and I was hoping to be able to tell them what their surname means, if that is possible. >> Hi Martha, I think you have it correct. Haugen says lein is a slope. There is a song one line of which says "Da Hørte Jeg fra Lien" we learned in Norwegian class and the teacher said lien was branches on a hillside. The farms 79 and 80, North and South Lie were the ones called Septon from 1630 to 1830. The farms #55 and 56, North and South Leine are different farms, but both were known by spelling variances. It seems reversing the e & i don't matter as it appears to mean the same both ways, but I am not sure of that. Maybe someone will correct me on that. I can scan you some pages from the Vang B book containing information and pictures from this farm if you will tell me the individuals' names so I can select the right pages. DennyG