There are several Sather/S�ter farms in the Valdres Kommune. So more information is needed about your Ole Olsen Sather from North Dakota. Do you know when he was born? Any siblings you are aware of? I believe you wrote his parents were Ole and Auggie. Auggie may be the nickname for "Augusta", a name that appears in several areas of Valdres in the 1865 census. If you provide more detailed information about your Sathers, I think you'll find members of this List can more helpful! Vickie

At 09:28 PM 1/26/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Dear List: > >This information may be very vague, but it's all I have regarding my Valdres background. > >My gg grandfather was Ole Sather. On his 1893 North Dakota marriage certificate, it shows his parents as Ole and Augie Sather. It states the place of residence at the time was Valdres. Augie must be americanized for some Norwegian name. I realize that since Ole's fathers name was Ole, he would be Ole Olson . I also realize that Sather was americanized for the farm Saetre/Saethre. Are there any farms in the Valdres area? > >That's all I know of Ole and Augie (?). Where would I go from here on research? Death records maybe? This is probably just coincidence but... My GGGrandfather was Thore Halvorsen Kongshavn Sætre; he had a brother Ole. He was born in Kongshaven near Bokn, Rogaland, Norway at grandparents place called Klubben. Thore ended up living near Centerville, SD. Sandra Sandra Ninas-Scheffel

There was an Otto Sather in Hills, Minnesota. I don't know his origin, but he could have been from Valdres. He passed away about 30 or 40 years ago. All my great grand parents except my maternal were from Valdres, except when I was growing up I/we never thought of such things. Otto's son has also passed away and he had one daughter who still lives in the area on a farm. I think her married name is Nelson. Perry Lien

Hei, There are a couple of farms by this name - very small parts of a larger farm. Do you have any kind of a date for Ole - his birthday or birth year? Betty Derek and Candace Paton wrote: > > Dear List: > > This information may be very vague, but it's all I have regarding my Valdres background. > > My gg grandfather was Ole Sather. On his 1893 North Dakota marriage certificate, it shows his parents as Ole and Augie Sather. It states the place of residence at the time was Valdres. Augie must be americanized for some Norwegian name. I realize that since Ole's fathers name was Ole, he would be Ole Olson . I also realize that Sather was americanized for the farm Saetre/Saethre. Are there any farms in the Valdres area? > > That's all I know of Ole and Augie (?). Where would I go from here on research? Death records maybe? > > Help! > Candace > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > ============================= VALDRES SAMBAND ========================= > VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org -- Betty Rockswold 1522 N. Greenwood Ct. Eagan, MN 55122 email: bettylou@spacestar.net web: www.valdressamband.org listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com

Dear List: This information may be very vague, but it's all I have regarding my Valdres background. My gg grandfather was Ole Sather. On his 1893 North Dakota marriage certificate, it shows his parents as Ole and Augie Sather. It states the place of residence at the time was Valdres. Augie must be americanized for some Norwegian name. I realize that since Ole's fathers name was Ole, he would be Ole Olson . I also realize that Sather was americanized for the farm Saetre/Saethre. Are there any farms in the Valdres area? That's all I know of Ole and Augie (?). Where would I go from here on research? Death records maybe? Help! Candace

Thanks again for the help. Finding a Olena (Oline) in the census was big. The birth date of 1872 could be it. My Olena's death record says 1874, but I had 1872 before that. Her brother, Ole, isn't there; instead there is Mons Monssen. A sister Berthe is there. Could be her. Thanks, Jerry

Hei, I don't remember if I replied to this query or not. I'm the genealogist for the Valdres Samband Lag. We only have records for Valdres, so perhaps we have records for Ole Rudlang, if there is more information on him. What was his father's name? What year was he born? Would be happy to help, if I can. Betty Joyhart@aol.com wrote: > > The only Olena (may be spelled Olina, Oline) Monsdatter I saw in the 1875 > census was with the following family in Fana (where ever that is - > Hordaland?) > Census year: 1875 > Municipality: Fana > Municipality number: 1249 > Name of domicile: Ytre Midthun (M. Johannessens Gaard) > ----- > Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Birth > place > Mons Johannessen Husfader G Smed og Gaardbruger Leilænding 1818 > Fana > Berthe Monsdatter Hans Kone G 1830 Fana > Berthe Monsdatter Datter U Hjælper Forældrene 1851 Fana > Mons Monssen Søn U Hjælper Forældrene 1859 Fana > Malene Monsdatter Datter 1861 Fana > Thrine Monsdatter Datter 1864 Fana > Lars Johan Monssen Søn 1867 Fana > Anne Monsdatter Datter 1870 Fana > Oline Pernille Monsdatter Datter 1872 Fana > Martha Bertine Monsdatter Datter 1875 Fana > > Vickie in Minnesota > > In a message dated 1/23/00 1:12:21 PM, JJAAA5@aol.com writes: > > I am reseaching Olena Monsdatter Melby (born 1872 married Ole Rudlang in the > US). She reportedly came to the US in 1894 from Hedemarken, but I have not > found anything as yet. She had a brother named Ole Melby who died in St. > Paul, MN in 1937. I found the record of an Ole Melby coming to Eau Claire, > WI in 1888 at 26 (my Ole Melby should've been 30) and was checking it for a > possible lead. I have not found many Melbys even though it is supposed to be > common in Norway. > > Thanks, > Jerry > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > > </XMP> > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: <VALDRES-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-yc05.mx.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.37]) > by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:12:20 > -0500 > Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by > rly-yc05.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:12:08 -0500 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28405; > Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:09:23 -0800 (PST) > Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:09:23 -0800 (PST) > From: JJAAA5@aol.com > Message-ID: <2d.4edd6d.25bcabb0@aol.com> > Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:08:32 EST > Old-To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 47 > Subject: [VALDRES-L] Melby in Verdi > Resent-Message-ID: <FYyUsD.A.k7G.jH1i4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> > To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/213 > X-Loop: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: VALDRES-L-request@rootsweb.com > > >> > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > ============================= VALDRES SAMBAND ========================= > VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org -- Betty Rockswold 1522 N. Greenwood Ct. Eagan, MN 55122 email: bettylou@spacestar.net web: www.valdressamband.org listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com

Jerry, Hedemarken would not be in Valdres. In Hedmark that I know of there is a farm in Åsnes named Melby and one in Grue. My ancestors came from the one in Grue but came to America in the 1860's. Rob Halvorson Del Rio, TX 78840 mailto:rkhal@delrio.com -----Original Message----- From: JJAAA5@aol.com [mailto:JJAAA5@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 1:09 PM To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VALDRES-L] Melby in Verdi Thank you for your interest in helping. I am reseaching Olena Monsdatter Melby (born 1872 married Ole Rudlang in the US). She reportedly came to the US in 1894 from Hedemarken, but I have not found anything as yet. She had a brother named Ole Melby who died in St. Paul, MN in 1937. I found the record of an Ole Melby coming to Eau Claire, WI in 1888 at 26 (my Ole Melby should've been 30) and was checking it for a possible lead. I have not found many Melbys even though it is supposed to be common in Norway. Thanks, Jerry ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions

The only Olena (may be spelled Olina, Oline) Monsdatter I saw in the 1875 census was with the following family in Fana (where ever that is - Hordaland?) Census year: 1875 Municipality: Fana Municipality number: 1249 Name of domicile: Ytre Midthun (M. Johannessens Gaard) ----- Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Birth place Mons�Johannessen Husfader G Smed og Gaardbruger Leil�nding 1818 Fana Berthe�Monsdatter Hans Kone G � 1830 Fana Berthe�Monsdatter Datter U Hj�lper For�ldrene 1851 Fana Mons�Monssen S�n U Hj�lper For�ldrene 1859 Fana Malene�Monsdatter Datter � 1861 Fana Thrine�Monsdatter Datter � 1864 Fana Lars Johan�Monssen S�n � 1867 Fana Anne�Monsdatter Datter � 1870 Fana Oline Pernille�Monsdatter Datter � 1872 Fana Martha Bertine�Monsdatter Datter � 1875 Fana Vickie in Minnesota In a message dated 1/23/00 1:12:21 PM, JJAAA5@aol.com writes: I am reseaching Olena Monsdatter Melby (born 1872 married Ole Rudlang in the US). She reportedly came to the US in 1894 from Hedemarken, but I have not found anything as yet. She had a brother named Ole Melby who died in St. Paul, MN in 1937. I found the record of an Ole Melby coming to Eau Claire, WI in 1888 at 26 (my Ole Melby should've been 30) and was checking it for a possible lead. I have not found many Melbys even though it is supposed to be common in Norway. Thanks, Jerry ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions </XMP> ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <VALDRES-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yc05.mx.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.37]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:12:20 -0500 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-yc05.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:12:08 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28405; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:09:23 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:09:23 -0800 (PST) From: JJAAA5@aol.com Message-ID: <2d.4edd6d.25bcabb0@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 14:08:32 EST Old-To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 47 Subject: [VALDRES-L] Melby in Verdi Resent-Message-ID: <FYyUsD.A.k7G.jH1i4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/213 X-Loop: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: VALDRES-L-request@rootsweb.com >>

Thank you for your interest in helping. I am reseaching Olena Monsdatter Melby (born 1872 married Ole Rudlang in the US). She reportedly came to the US in 1894 from Hedemarken, but I have not found anything as yet. She had a brother named Ole Melby who died in St. Paul, MN in 1937. I found the record of an Ole Melby coming to Eau Claire, WI in 1888 at 26 (my Ole Melby should've been 30) and was checking it for a possible lead. I have not found many Melbys even though it is supposed to be common in Norway. Thanks, Jerry

I have a branch of Melbys with a few Oles in it. (Seems to be a big farm in Norway-lots of families) My ancestors came to US in 1880's also. First stop was in or near Lyon Co. MN and then they moved on to Wells Co. ND. Where did your Ole Melby live in the US? Elaine Homan -----Original Message----- From: Janni <jbelgum@home.com> To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [VALDRES-L] Verdi >Melby is a farm name in Valdres. So-- maybe Valdres is what you are looking for! When was he born? > >Hilsen, Janni > -----Original Message----- > From: JJAAA5@aol.com <JJAAA5@aol.com> > To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 4:55 PM > Subject: [VALDRES-L] Verdi > > > I found a record that could be helpful to my genealogy search. It mentioned > that this person, Ole Melby, came from "Verdi" (Norway) in 1888. I can't > locate it. > > Any suggestions? > Jerry > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > ============================= VALDRES SAMBAND ========================= > VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org > > > >==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== >========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== >Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call >June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions >

Melby is a farm name in Valdres. So-- maybe Valdres is what you are looking for! When was he born? Hilsen, Janni -----Original Message----- From: JJAAA5@aol.com <JJAAA5@aol.com> To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 4:55 PM Subject: [VALDRES-L] Verdi I found a record that could be helpful to my genealogy search. It mentioned that this person, Ole Melby, came from "Verdi" (Norway) in 1888. I can't locate it. Any suggestions? Jerry ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== ============================= VALDRES SAMBAND ========================= VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org

There is a Melbye farm in Verdal, N�rd Trondelag. In a message dated 1/22/00 5:55:38 PM, JJAAA5@aol.com writes: << I found a record that could be helpful to my genealogy search. It mentioned that this person, Ole Melby, came from "Verdi" (Norway) in 1888. I can't locate it. Any suggestions? Jerry

I found a record that could be helpful to my genealogy search. It mentioned that this person, Ole Melby, came from "Verdi" (Norway) in 1888. I can't locate it. Any suggestions? Jerry

Try to just listen to her and not give advice when she is down if you do have advice for her try to phrase it in a way that helps her come up with the answer tell her that you love her even though you think she knows it that tip is not for the first few months but for a lifetime whatever she does what you hate, know that you can program yourself to love it at least once a month do something unexpected and sweet for her when she is down try to find an indirect way to cheer her up go to your largest bookstore for a book called learn norwegian 10 minutes a day I think that is the name so you must be the one marrying Sharilyn Whitaker or maybe she is your sister have you contacted (their email addresses may have expired) Erin Woollweever, Duluth, MN, US hugbees01@yahoo.com Felicia Woollweever Garrett, IN, US qtfelicia@yahoo.com have you contacted the woolweaver people at http://people.yahoo.com your last name spelled that way because when immigrants came to america they did not have typed up passports the immigrant official listened to their attempt at english or maybe they read a passenger list (which just delayed the misinterpretation) and gave them a name that sounded similiar not all immigrant officials aced their english class Good luck on your quest Sleepless In Minneapolis << As you have all figured out, Woollweever is not even close to being Norwegian so I am just wondering if anyone has any advice for me as I am marrying a full blooded Norwegian girl on Friday. >>

-----Original Message----- From: Janni [mailto:jbelgum@home.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:02 AM To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VALDRES-L] passed through Rognas, N. A. I'm passing on this from Norway List- but it touches Valdres-- some. So any reply should go to Norway List! NORWAY-L@rootsweb.com Hilsen, Janni ********************** It goes like this: My great great grandfather and his youngest son were among those buried near Detroit as a result of this Cholera outbreak. Back in the early 1970's, I made an unsuccessful attempt to obtain information from the Detroit Historical Society. It has bothered me ever since. The family story was that the whole family with the exception of my great grandmother died of cholera in the "pest house" in Detroit. She was given the $200 that her father had with him and a note was pinned to her coat and she was put on a train headed for Wisconsin. My research later turned up an obituary of a brother which said that only the father and youngest son died in Detroit and that the rest of the family made it to Stoughton, Wisconsin where the mother and youngest daughter also died of Cholera and were buried in unmarked graves. That left three children 2 brothers ages 18 and 6 and my great grandmother age 15. It is recorded in the Ringebu KB 1848-59 that the family consisting of the following left their home Sø Bø in Venebygde (Ringebu) on 27 Apr 1854. Einar Engebretsen Bø, b. 30 Sep. 1804, Grønåssen, Hemesdal, d. 1854 Detroit, MI(?) Berit Erlandsdtr Bø, b. 4 July 1808, Ringsager, Ulnæs, d. 1854 Stoughton WI(?) Engebret (Albert) Enersen Bø, b. 15 Apr 1836, Rognås, Nord Aurdal, d. 28 May 1924, Garden Valley, WI Marie Enersdtr Bø, b. 26 May 1839, Rognås, Nord Aurdal, d. 24 Sep 1910, Westby, WI Sigred Enersdtr Bø, b. 30 April 1842, Aspesletten, Vestre Gausdal d. 1854 Stoughton WI(?) Erland Enersen Bø, b. 28 July 1845, Sø Bø, Venebygde, d. Feb 1918, Cook Co. MN Christian Enerson Bø, b. 20 July 1852, Sø Bø, Venebygde, d. 1854, Detroit MI(?) If anyone on the list has any more information about this family or this Cholera event I would appreciate hearing about it. ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== ============================= VALDRES SAMBAND ========================= VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org

I'm passing on this from Norway List- but it touches Valdres-- some. So any reply should go to Norway List! NORWAY-L@rootsweb.com Hilsen, Janni ********************** It goes like this: My great great grandfather and his youngest son were among those buried near Detroit as a result of this Cholera outbreak. Back in the early 1970's, I made an unsuccessful attempt to obtain information from the Detroit Historical Society. It has bothered me ever since. The family story was that the whole family with the exception of my great grandmother died of cholera in the "pest house" in Detroit. She was given the $200 that her father had with him and a note was pinned to her coat and she was put on a train headed for Wisconsin. My research later turned up an obituary of a brother which said that only the father and youngest son died in Detroit and that the rest of the family made it to Stoughton, Wisconsin where the mother and youngest daughter also died of Cholera and were buried in unmarked graves. That left three children 2 brothers ages 18 and 6 and my great grandmother age 15. It is recorded in the Ringebu KB 1848-59 that the family consisting of the following left their home Sø Bø in Venebygde (Ringebu) on 27 Apr 1854. Einar Engebretsen Bø, b. 30 Sep. 1804, Grønåssen, Hemesdal, d. 1854 Detroit, MI(?) Berit Erlandsdtr Bø, b. 4 July 1808, Ringsager, Ulnæs, d. 1854 Stoughton WI(?) Engebret (Albert) Enersen Bø, b. 15 Apr 1836, Rognås, Nord Aurdal, d. 28 May 1924, Garden Valley, WI Marie Enersdtr Bø, b. 26 May 1839, Rognås, Nord Aurdal, d. 24 Sep 1910, Westby, WI Sigred Enersdtr Bø, b. 30 April 1842, Aspesletten, Vestre Gausdal d. 1854 Stoughton WI(?) Erland Enersen Bø, b. 28 July 1845, Sø Bø, Venebygde, d. Feb 1918, Cook Co. MN Christian Enerson Bø, b. 20 July 1852, Sø Bø, Venebygde, d. 1854, Detroit MI(?) If anyone on the list has any more information about this family or this Cholera event I would appreciate hearing about it.

Congratulations--and if your fiancé is from Valdres she must be good!!!! Patty Bickar pbickar@ptialaska.net

Hello All, If this is not appropriate subject matter for the list I apoligize. Since joining the lists in December, I have received a fantastic amount of help and hints from list members. Due to the help and kindness of all, I feel like a new family member!! As you have all figured out, Woollweever is not even close to being Norwegian so I am just wondering if anyone has any advice for me as I am marrying a full blooded Norwegian girl on Friday. PLEASE RESPOND TO ME OFF LIST so as not to clutter up the list with what I am sure will be a few very humorous and quite interesting bits of advice!!!!!! Tom

Hello, Looking for any information on the surname BRAATELIEN. I have found a connection to Akron Township, Wilkin County, Minnesota 1903 Plat Map. Any help would be greatfully appreciated. Please contact me off list if you have something for me. Regards, Tom