Hei Ruth, Fekjar is in the D volume of Sør-Aurdal, page 402. However, Ole Sjurdsen is elusive. Page 453 of the Fekjar farm shows Sjurd Sjurdsen Fekjar's children, but your Ole isn't mentioned. This is the closest I can come to Ole. The 1801 census (we have the microfiche) shows the farm spelled Nordere Fekier and Feker Søndre. Ole and Marit appear on page 276 of this volume, not 256. Marit was born 8 June, 1777. This is on microfilm of the church records, 125515, page 270. Given the naming system Norwegians more or less followed, Ole and Marit's first child was Sjurd, named for Ole's father. Second child ws Timann, named for Marit's father. First daughter was Ingrid - most like named for Ole's mother. Then they had another Sjurd, b. 1819, as a replacement for the Sjurd born 18009, died 1814. So this is just a clue. A suggestion is to write to the archive at Hamar. They are obliged to answer one question for free. Write airmail in English and the answer will be the same in about a month. Statsarkivet i Hamar Strandgaten 71 N-2300 Hamar, Norway I'm the genealogist for the Valdres Samband Lag. Please see our website below, to learn more of what we are about. Med beste hilsen, Betty Ruth Christ wrote: > > Has anyone heard of a farm or cotter's place called FEKJAR? My > ggggrandfather was Ola Sjurdsen Fekjar, married to Marit Timmansdatter > Åmsrud (f. 1777, d. 1862, g. 1809). They lived on Svarvermoen after their > marriage. Svarvermoen is part of the Nerby farm in Sør Aurdal. I found > this information in Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal, Bd. D, p. 256, but I have > not had any luck finding Fekjar in the bygdebøker vols. for Sør Aurdal or > in the online census or Rygh. > > Thanks, > Ruth C. > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > or JADOLVA@aol.com -- Betty Rockswold 1522 N. Greenwood Ct. Eagan, MN 55122 email: bettylou@spacestar.net web: www.valdressamband.org listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com

Hallo Pia, I have some of the persons you are interested as my ancestors. (Gullik O. Egge/Kari H. Berge). Helle is a farm in Høre in Vang and I have the bygdebok from this area. I can try to look up some of your questions if you like. Contact me on nrogn@c2i.net Nils ----- Original Message ----- From: Pia Fjelltun <sirenek@online.no> To: <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 8:43 PM Subject: RE: [VALDRES-L] Valdres info. > Hi, > My name is Pia,and i signed in on this list a couple of day's ago.I am dutch > but live in Lier. I have startet recently with genealogy and was so happy to > could start with Valdres, already startet by somebody else, who does > unfortunetly not live anymore. I have now more and more questions and hope > somebody on this list might have same ancestors or the possibility to look > up some things in bygdebooks. I have østre slidre books. > > The person I am searching for are the grandparents from Ole Knudsen Beito > (Kveto) 1843-1930. > Father side. Knut Gullichsen Beito/Bekkenlund 1815-1846 drowned, married > with Berit Knutsdatter Helle, born 1803. > > The parents from Knut Gullichsen Beito are listet as Gullich Olsen Egge > (1750-1826), and Kari Olsdatter. In the 1801 it said that Gullich Olsen Egge > is married with Kari Halvordatter Berji, both 51 and first marriage. There > lives a Kari Olsdatter inderst on that farm with a daughter. Is that maybe > "my" Kari? I would expect Gullich Olsen is coming from Egge which I find on > a old slidre map, in vestre slidre, but somebody who looked it up said he > was not mentioned there. Gullich must have been 65 when Knut was born, but I > guess that is possible. > > Gullichs parents are mentioned: Ola Gullichson Beito, married Ragnhild > Jonsdatter Stee. Somebody who looked it up said there was no Ragnhild at > Stee. But they are listet married in 1749, and she was burried 1776 (born > 1715) > > On the mothers side, Berit Knutsdatter Helle (where is Helle?)parents Knud > Trondsen Berge married Berit Olsdatter. I found this family in 1801 at Berge > farm Wang prestegjeld. > It say Knud Tronsen "Deres barn". I thought this means that his parent are > listet too, but I can not find them. His wife and youngest daughter er > listet. > > Does anybody have the Berge farm in a bygdebok? On the same 1801 list stand > Ole Madsen tjenestfolk 25. Is this Ole Madsen Berge who married with Barbro > Andersdatter in 1803, on Kvåle (Qval) farm. Does it mention his parents, or > where he come from? > > I hope somebody wil recognise this line and can make it a bit clearer.Thanks > a lot in advance. > regards, > Pia > Sorry for the long letter, as there are so many persons with the same name I > thought I had to write down what I have. > > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org > Future Stevne's > June 22-24, 2000 - Kelly Inn - St. Cloud, MN > June 14-16, 2001 - Decorah, IA > June 20-22, 2002 - Oaks Hotel - Sioux Falls, SD > >

I suspect that this is it. It was the only one that came up with the 1801 census for gard: "Fek..." http://www.hist.uib.no/cgi-win/websys.exe?n&04&0415&4&46&61 Janni -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Christ <ruth-christ@uiowa.edu> To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 16, 2000 10:08 PM Subject: [VALDRES-L] Fekjar >Has anyone heard of a farm or cotter's place called FEKJAR? My >ggggrandfather was Ola Sjurdsen Fekjar, married to Marit Timmansdatter >Åmsrud (f. 1777, d. 1862, g. 1809). They lived on Svarvermoen after their >marriage. Svarvermoen is part of the Nerby farm in Sør Aurdal. I found >this information in Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal, Bd. D, p. 256, but I have >not had any luck finding Fekjar in the bygdebøker vols. for Sør Aurdal or >in the online census or Rygh. > >Thanks, >Ruth C. > > >==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== >========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== >Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call >June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions >or JADOLVA@aol.com >

Has anyone heard of a farm or cotter's place called FEKJAR? My ggggrandfather was Ola Sjurdsen Fekjar, married to Marit Timmansdatter Åmsrud (f. 1777, d. 1862, g. 1809). They lived on Svarvermoen after their marriage. Svarvermoen is part of the Nerby farm in Sør Aurdal. I found this information in Gard og bygd i Sør-Aurdal, Bd. D, p. 256, but I have not had any luck finding Fekjar in the bygdebøker vols. for Sør Aurdal or in the online census or Rygh. Thanks, Ruth C.

It's possible I know I have a Nils back there somewhere, but none of those names ring a bell, at least not with what I have so far. If I find anything I'll forward it to you. Thanks Jeff Marshall jeff@marshall-networks.com -----Original Message----- From: Solmaple@aol.com [mailto:Solmaple@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 1:59 PM To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VALDRES-L] Re: VALDRES-D Digest V00 #35 Vickie in Minnesota and Jeff Marshall: Vickie, do you know if your Gunder Nilson Odegaard Lien (Gunnar Nilson) was the son of Nils Gunnarson (1760-1798) and Darta Olsdotter Kvie (1762-1796)? My ggg grandfather, Ole Nilson Odegaard (1789-1849) had a brother named Gunnar Nilson (b. 1793). Jeff, I think it is entirely possible the Odegaard Farm you mention was where the above-mentioned Ole Nilson Odegaard grew up. Ole's son, Nils (my gg grandfather), and his family emigrated in 1858 so I had no known relatives living on Odegaarden in 1886 or 1900. Kathy Solseth solmaple@aol.com ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions or JADOLVA@aol.com

Jeff, I have the book with both Egji (Egge) and Bergji in. I have found Gølik Olsen married to Kari Halvorsdatter with 6 children. Please contact me off list for more info. dkoop@emily.net SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > or JADOLVA@aol.com > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > or JADOLVA@aol.com >

Hi, My name is Pia,and i signed in on this list a couple of day's ago.I am dutch but live in Lier. I have startet recently with genealogy and was so happy to could start with Valdres, already startet by somebody else, who does unfortunetly not live anymore. I have now more and more questions and hope somebody on this list might have same ancestors or the possibility to look up some things in bygdebooks. I have østre slidre books. The person I am searching for are the grandparents from Ole Knudsen Beito (Kveto) 1843-1930. Father side. Knut Gullichsen Beito/Bekkenlund 1815-1846 drowned, married with Berit Knutsdatter Helle, born 1803. The parents from Knut Gullichsen Beito are listet as Gullich Olsen Egge (1750-1826), and Kari Olsdatter. In the 1801 it said that Gullich Olsen Egge is married with Kari Halvordatter Berji, both 51 and first marriage. There lives a Kari Olsdatter inderst on that farm with a daughter. Is that maybe "my" Kari? I would expect Gullich Olsen is coming from Egge which I find on a old slidre map, in vestre slidre, but somebody who looked it up said he was not mentioned there. Gullich must have been 65 when Knut was born, but I guess that is possible. Gullichs parents are mentioned: Ola Gullichson Beito, married Ragnhild Jonsdatter Stee. Somebody who looked it up said there was no Ragnhild at Stee. But they are listet married in 1749, and she was burried 1776 (born 1715) On the mothers side, Berit Knutsdatter Helle (where is Helle?)parents Knud Trondsen Berge married Berit Olsdatter. I found this family in 1801 at Berge farm Wang prestegjeld. It say Knud Tronsen "Deres barn". I thought this means that his parent are listet too, but I can not find them. His wife and youngest daughter er listet. Does anybody have the Berge farm in a bygdebok? On the same 1801 list stand Ole Madsen tjenestfolk 25. Is this Ole Madsen Berge who married with Barbro Andersdatter in 1803, on Kvåle (Qval) farm. Does it mention his parents, or where he come from? I hope somebody wil recognise this line and can make it a bit clearer.Thanks a lot in advance. regards, Pia Sorry for the long letter, as there are so many persons with the same name I thought I had to write down what I have.

I can answer one part of your question, anyway. I have an ancestor also from Helle - look Aadalen in Buskerude. (I think it's Hellen in the Digitalarkivet.) Star O

Vickie in Minnesota and Jeff Marshall: Vickie, do you know if your Gunder Nilson Odegaard Lien (Gunnar Nilson) was the son of Nils Gunnarson (1760-1798) and Darta Olsdotter Kvie (1762-1796)? My ggg grandfather, Ole Nilson Odegaard (1789-1849) had a brother named Gunnar Nilson (b. 1793). Jeff, I think it is entirely possible the Odegaard Farm you mention was where the above-mentioned Ole Nilson Odegaard grew up. Ole's son, Nils (my gg grandfather), and his family emigrated in 1858 so I had no known relatives living on Odegaarden in 1886 or 1900. Kathy Solseth solmaple@aol.com

Please email me at my personal address Vbongs@emily.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Marshall" <Jeff@marshall-networks.com> To: <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com>

HI Jeff, Give me a name from 1730 to 1900 and I will see what I can do--- If I find them I will let you know more about the book.

Thank you I'd appreciated that. Which book do you have? And would you know how I could get one? Does it talk about what's going on, on these farms during the time period. I have dates and names but no flavor as to what was happening. How much info would you like just the name date and farm or would you like what info I have ( if I go back to 1500's in that area its about a ten page report.) Thanks again, Jeff Marshall jeff@marshall-networks.com -----Original Message----- From: Vonda Bongs [mailto:vbongs@emily.net] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 4:11 AM To: VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VALDRES-L] Vang Farm info I have these farms in my Bygdebok. I can look up names-- Vonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Marshall" <Jeff@marshall-networks.com> To: <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 11:57 PM Subject: [VALDRES-L] Vang Farm info > Hi all New to the group and was wondering if any one had done any research > on the following farms: > > Ødegaard Farm listed in the 1900 census for 0545 Vangs Valdres > Municipality Vang Valders, Krets 4, Farm 26,27, subfarm 1,2 > > Bøs-Ødegaarden Listed in 1886 Gardmatrikkelen > Fylke Oppland, Kommune Vang in Oppland, Sogn Vang, Farm Number 27, Gammelt > matrikkelnr 6, > Bruksnr 1, Løpenr 13, Bruksnavn Ødegaarden > > Bøe nedre Farm, Listed in 1865 census for 0545 Vang > Distriknr 1, Side 13 Skoledistrikt Norde, Sogn Hoved, Prestegjeld Vang, > Gardsnavn Bøe Nedre, Merknad 13, > > The other farm which I found was Stejle 1801 Wang Christians County > > Stejle I have almost no info on. The others I have a little looking for any > additional info and would be happy to offer what I know. > Thanks in advance > > Jeff Marshall > jeff@marshall-networks.com <mailto:jeff@marshall-networks.com> > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org > Future Stevne's > June 22-24, 2000 - Kelly Inn - St. Cloud, MN > June 14-16, 2001 - Decorah, IA > June 20-22, 2002 - Oaks Hotel - Sioux Falls, SD > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions or JADOLVA@aol.com

I have these farms in my Bygdebok. I can look up names-- Vonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Marshall" <Jeff@marshall-networks.com> To: <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 11:57 PM Subject: [VALDRES-L] Vang Farm info > Hi all New to the group and was wondering if any one had done any research > on the following farms: > > Ødegaard Farm listed in the 1900 census for 0545 Vangs Valdres > Municipality Vang Valders, Krets 4, Farm 26,27, subfarm 1,2 > > Bøs-Ødegaarden Listed in 1886 Gardmatrikkelen > Fylke Oppland, Kommune Vang in Oppland, Sogn Vang, Farm Number 27, Gammelt > matrikkelnr 6, > Bruksnr 1, Løpenr 13, Bruksnavn Ødegaarden > > Bøe nedre Farm, Listed in 1865 census for 0545 Vang > Distriknr 1, Side 13 Skoledistrikt Norde, Sogn Hoved, Prestegjeld Vang, > Gardsnavn Bøe Nedre, Merknad 13, > > The other farm which I found was Stejle 1801 Wang Christians County > > Stejle I have almost no info on. The others I have a little looking for any > additional info and would be happy to offer what I know. > Thanks in advance > > Jeff Marshall > jeff@marshall-networks.com <mailto:jeff@marshall-networks.com> > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org > Future Stevne's > June 22-24, 2000 - Kelly Inn - St. Cloud, MN > June 14-16, 2001 - Decorah, IA > June 20-22, 2002 - Oaks Hotel - Sioux Falls, SD >

Hi all New to the group and was wondering if any one had done any research on the following farms: Ødegaard Farm listed in the 1900 census for 0545 Vangs Valdres Municipality Vang Valders, Krets 4, Farm 26,27, subfarm 1,2 Bøs-Ødegaarden Listed in 1886 Gardmatrikkelen Fylke Oppland, Kommune Vang in Oppland, Sogn Vang, Farm Number 27, Gammelt matrikkelnr 6, Bruksnr 1, Løpenr 13, Bruksnavn Ødegaarden Bøe nedre Farm, Listed in 1865 census for 0545 Vang Distriknr 1, Side 13 Skoledistrikt Norde, Sogn Hoved, Prestegjeld Vang, Gardsnavn Bøe Nedre, Merknad 13, The other farm which I found was Stejle 1801 Wang Christians County Stejle I have almost no info on. The others I have a little looking for any additional info and would be happy to offer what I know. Thanks in advance Jeff Marshall jeff@marshall-networks.com <mailto:jeff@marshall-networks.com>

Hei Martha, I don't know if I'm answering your query to your satisfaction, but here goes. The Tore Ey book, "Vang og Slire", page 272 lists the farm as #69, entitled Lien el Septon (means Lien or Septon). "Vang", Vol. B, page 392 by Anders Frøholm gives the following. I hope I'm translating it right. The name Lie (li:'e)/Lien (li:n) is the same as Lia- (li:'a). It was written Lien but the original name from 1630-1830 was Septon or Septun. Think I had better write it in Norwegian, as presented in the book, in case I've missed something: "Namnet er Lie (li:n), samansett Lia- (lii:'a). I dag skriv dei Lien some gards- of slektsnamn, man i dei fieste skriftlege sjeldene frå 1630-åra til 1830-åra er namnet <Septon> eller unntaksvis <Septun>, eit namn som er gått heilt av bruk før manns minne. O. R. Meiner, etter Sophus Bugge, at det kan vere eit opphavleg <Seppatun>, der førsteleden kan vere eit elles ukjent namn <Seppi>, ei kjæleform av mannsnamnet Joseppr, Josef. Namnet er skrive <Lien> 1595 og etter 1830, <Liien> 1598, "Lij øde> 1604, <Lyenn> 1612, <Lidenn> 1615-37, men samstundes ein annan part <Septun> 1632-37, berre <Septon> 1645, <Sæpthoen> 1647-57, <Septoen> 1664, 1666-77, 1671 og 1689 <Septon> 1723, 1761 og 1801. Hilsen, Betty Martha J Hicks wrote: > > Hi! > > Does anyone know whether the Søndre Lien farm in Vang used to be called > the Septon farm? Is there a Septon farm anymore? Also, does anyone know > a history of names changes for the Lien (Lii, Lie) farm in Vang? Thank > you! > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > or JADOLVA@aol.com -- Betty Rockswold 1522 N. Greenwood Ct. Eagan, MN 55122 email: bettylou@spacestar.net web: www.valdressamband.org listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com

Hallo Martha! The two Lien-farms was called Septon or Septun earlier. In the Vang-book (B) of Anders Frøholm (1990) you can read so on page 392. Here it says: 1595: Lien, 1598: Liien, 1604: Lij øde, 1612: Lyenn, 1615-1637: Lidenn/Septun (1632-37) 1645: Septon, 1647-1657: Sæpthoen, 1664- 1689: Septoen, 1723-1801: Septon About 1830 the Septon-name is not used any more, only Lien (Liè). Nils Rogn (Røgn) nrogn@c2i.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Martha J Hicks <mjhicks1@juno.com> To: <VALDRES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 9:26 PM Subject: [VALDRES-L] Lien and Septon farms > Hi! > > Does anyone know whether the Søndre Lien farm in Vang used to be called > the Septon farm? Is there a Septon farm anymore? Also, does anyone know > a history of names changes for the Lien (Lii, Lie) farm in Vang? Thank > you! > > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > ========================VALDRES SAMBAND 1899-1999====================== > Interested in joining the Valdres Samband, call > June Adele Dolva (218)233-7134 if you have questions > or JADOLVA@aol.com > >

Betty, Martha, and anyone else interested! I've been thinking about this farm name since connecting with Martha (ancestors from the Lien farm in Vang), a few days ago. My skill at translating Norwegian is about as good as my talent for knitting Norwegian sweaters (zilch!) But I think this is the gist of Valdres Bygdebok B, page 407. Someone please correct me if I am wrong! It appears Søre Lien was one farm, until ca. 1800, when Endre Nilson Lien (whose own sons died young) split the land between his son-in-law, Jon Knutson Nefstad and his other son-in-law Ola Gudbrandson Nørsvin. But Jon Knutson did not use the farm afterall, since he was at his father's farm NEFSTAD in 1801. Endre Nilson Lien kept the other half until Ola Gudbrandson Nørsvin bought the second half, as well. Ola Gudbrandson was married to Sigrid Endresdotter Lien. It appears his children (?) went to Nørsvin, so he sold the Lien farm deed to his son-in-law, Knut Tomason Jøvne/Tørpe. The farm numbers I have related to the Lien farm in Vang are as follows: 79/1 - Nørre Lien 80/1 - Søre Lie or <<Uppi støgun>>. It appears Tomas Knutson Lien received the deed from his father, in 1832, 80/2 - Midtre Lie or <<Nie støgun>> It appears Ola Knutson Lien received the deed to this farm, probably the same year his half-brother took over Søre Lien. Tomas and Ola had the same father (Knut Tomason Jøvne el. Tørpe), but different mothers. Knut Tomason's 3rd son, Gullick went to America around 1850. This is your Gullick -right Martha? The book also states Søre Lien was formerly known as Septon. Now I'm wondering if all 3 Lien farms were under Septon at one time, or if only Søre Lien was once called Septon. I don't have the pages to the Nørre Lien or Midtre Lien farms from the bygdebok. Unfortunately, after all this typing, none of the above persons are my ancestors! My Gunder Nilson Ødegaard Lien (aka Gunnar Nilson, b.1793-d.1840) was a husmann at Søre Lien, living on the husmannsplassen: Øvre Haugen, Liahaugen, or ("eller") Haugenplassen. But I'm glad we brought this up, Martha, because now after concentrating on this, I think I've finally figured out this farm puzzle! Vickie in Minnesota In a message dated 3/15/00 5:24:35 PM, bettylou@spacestar.net writes: << don't know if I'm answering your query to your satisfaction, but here goes. The Tore Ey book, "Vang og Slire", page 272 lists the farm as #69, entitled Lien el Septon (means Lien or Septon). "Vang", Vol. B, page 392 by Anders Frøholm gives the following. I hope I'm translating it right. The name Lie (li:'e)/Lien (li:n) is the same as Lia- (li:'a). It was written Lien but the original name from 1630-1830 was Septon or Septun. >>

Hi! Does anyone know whether the Søndre Lien farm in Vang used to be called the Septon farm? Is there a Septon farm anymore? Also, does anyone know a history of names changes for the Lien (Lii, Lie) farm in Vang? Thank you!

Hei Jim, There's a Rogaland Lag you might contact. Excellent genealogist in Dave Dross at mgsdec@mtn.org Lykke til, Betty JChan18003@aol.com wrote: > > I have this information as an address for emigrant To MN. Don't know what it > means, but would like to find out if there is a list for coverage - Jim > Chandler > > ==== VALDRES Mailing List ==== > VALDRES SAMBAND web page at http://www.valdressamband.org > Future Stevne's > June 22-24, 2000 - Kelly Inn - St. Cloud, MN > June 14-16, 2001 - Decorah, IA > June 20-22, 2002 - Oaks Hotel - Sioux Falls, SD -- Betty Rockswold 1522 N. Greenwood Ct. Eagan, MN 55122 email: bettylou@spacestar.net web: www.valdressamband.org listserv: Valdres-L-request@rootsweb.com

I have this information as an address for emigrant To MN. Don't know what it means, but would like to find out if there is a list for coverage - Jim Chandler