Hi Robert, Thanks for the information. I will try to check the links that you sent. What I am trying to do is connect my friend's Kansas Vails to Bishop Thomas Vail. I did find a site online that had a writing about his church etc. I have the Jeremiah line, part way, that I am trying to construct, and I have my friend's Vails a few generations back. I also have some information about some NY Vails, which I believe includes the Jeremiah line. I have been constructing it from info that I found on a Genealogy of Long Island cd, mostly (Jeremiah Line) and from some other cds that I have. I have learned that apparently Thomas connects to the Jeremiah Vail line. I have compiled from various means an ftw which has a son, Israel Everett Vail (son of Thomas Hubbard Vail), who was b. in 1832, died after 1902. It goes back to about 1500. (I am still working to verify this information of course.) My friend's Vails begin about 1870 (I do not have the parents for those b. in the 1870's. They were in Labette Co. Kansas,Topeka, and Montgomery Co. Kansas. What I need to figure out, just because it is a challenge (and I said that I would see what I could find out for my friend who has not been around her Vails in years. She has been in California for many years.); is the lines down from Thomas, which may probably lead to Milbur Milton Vail, Alonzo Delmar Vail, and Elfreida Vail plus a few more siblings. I have a down line from that. Thanks for your interest. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Vail" <rvail1@cfl.rr.com> To: <jarmscoop@twinwolf.net> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: Bishop Thomas Vail BlankIs this some of the info you are looking for? Vail, Bishop Thomas b. October 21, 1812 d. October 6, 1889 First Episcopal Bishop of State of Kansas. He and his wife Ellen were instrumental in founding the first hospital in Topeka, Christ Hospitla, in 1882. (bio by: Michaels@NKI.RFMH.org) Topeka Cemetery, Topeka, Shawnee County, Kansas, USA Plot: Section 18 GPS coordinates: 39.03049, -95.65377 (hddd.dddd) Robert S. Vail III Titusville, FL